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The Apple Watch Outsold Every Other Wearable Last Quarter (engadget.com)

According to Strategy Analytics, Apple has shipped 3.5 million wearables in the first quarter of 2017, which is 59 percent higher than the 2.2 million devices it did in the same period last year. Engadget reports: Cupertino captured 16 percent of the global marketshare and stole the wearables crown from Fitbit, which had a much less stellar quarter. Fitbit only shipped 2.9 million devices in Q1, 36 percent less than the 4.5 million units it moved in the first quarter of 2016. Even Xiaomi sold more devices, putting the beleaguered wearables-maker in third place. Those results are consistent with Apple's latest earnings report. The company said its Watch and TV sales jumped up 31 percent year-over-year, and head honcho Tim Cook said Watch sales have nearly doubled since last year. Neil Mawston, Strategy Analytics executive director, said Apple's Watch Series 2 has been selling well "due to enhanced styling, intensive marketing and a good retail presence." Were you one of the 3.5 million customers who purchased an Apple Watch in the first quarter of 2017? If so, how do you like Apple's approach to wearables?

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  1. Question by lucm · · Score: 5, Funny

    Were you one of the 3.5 million customers who purchased an Apple Watch in the first quarter of 2017? If so, how do you like Apple's approach to wearables?

    Do we get a $25 iTunes gift card if we answer your marketing survey?

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    1. Re:Question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Haha!

    2. Re:Question by Plumpaquatsch · · Score: 1

      Were you one of the 3.5 million customers who purchased an Apple Watch in the first quarter of 2017? If so, how do you like Apple's approach to wearables?

      Do we get a $25 iTunes gift card if we answer your marketing survey?

      Nope, you get two Samsung Gears. Gotta get rid of inventory somehow.

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  2. Booyeah! by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 3, Informative
    Friday night, Slashdotters are getting their drink on, and a story about Apple.

    Popcorn for all!

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    1. Re: Booyeah! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Good! I'm here for the android and ios stories anyways...

  3. I'll answer the question. by NotQuiteReal · · Score: 4, Insightful

    No.

    And with billions of people in the world, almost nobody did.

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    1. Re:I'll answer the question. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      And you have shown why so many people despise apple and apple worshippers.

    2. Re:I'll answer the question. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'll get an Apple watch when I can make 3D star wars style video calls on it.

    3. Re: I'll answer the question. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And you assume that AC was both an Apple worshipper and only referring to people who don't buy Apple products.

    4. Re: I'll answer the question. by jonnyj · · Score: 1

      Look at Garmin's range before you buy and read the very detailed reviews on dcrainmaker. A Garmin is almost certainly a better fitness tracker but may not be the best match for your non fitness needs.

      I have a Garmin Fenix 5 and I'm very happy with it. It serves me much better than an Apple Watch would.

    5. Re:I'll answer the question. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No.

      And with billions of people in the world, almost nobody did.

      Well now, see that's perpective.

    6. Re:I'll answer the question. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And with the biggest seller going from 4.5M in Q1 2016 to 3.5M in Q1 2017, it appears to be a dying fad. Apple customers seem to be a bit late to realise this, leaving them as the only company with growing sales in a market which has seen a huge slump.

    7. Re: I'll answer the question. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And you proved you didn't read the comment AC responded to because it was about people who didn't buy an Apple product. The only thing that could be proven would be something about people who don't buy Apple products.

    8. Re:I'll answer the question. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And you have been trolled.

    9. Re:I'll answer the question. by SvnLyrBrto · · Score: 2

      It's the standard slashbot line though. To people like the GP, if Apple were to invent a device that transmutes cancerous tumors into 24-carat gold, but it had no wireless and less space than a Nomad, it would be lame.

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  4. So, fitbit falling down? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Apparently they managed to turn themselves toxic by swallowing, then discontinuing, pebble.

    Something something nokia, who invented and even owned the smartphone market, then managing to kill themselves over it, by inviting themselves to be taken over by that other toxic maker of smartphones.

    1. Re:So, fitbit falling down? by GodfatherofSoul · · Score: 1

      Nah, the writing was on the wall well before that. You can only overhype crappy hardware and mail replacements for so long before people figure it out.

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    2. Re:So, fitbit falling down? by Gr8Apes · · Score: 2

      Nah, the writing was on the wall well before that.

      It certainly was. Their major issue was hiring new MBA types that didn't stick to the company's core values but instead started practicing their myopic next quarter numbers racket. Nokia quickly disintegrated after that as their best people started leaving and their product lines quit moving forward. Then apple came around and drove a stake through its heart. Nokia no longer had the talent nor will to answer to the iphone, and they quickly spiraled down the drain.

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  5. Who wants to charge their watch daily? by GodfatherofSoul · · Score: 2

    Get a Garmin, better features. Yeah, you lose out on the TV screen on your wrist but I'll take that sacrifice.

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    1. Re:Who wants to charge their watch daily? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And as a bonus you get to have one less apple product in your life

    2. Re:Who wants to charge their watch daily? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I recharge my watch every few years in 5 minutes by taking it to the jeweler at the supermarket. The watch it self is 24 years old and was a 21st birthday present from my Dad.

    3. Re: Who wants to charge their watch daily? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Who cares? When I go to sleep, I put my watch down on a charger instead of putting down directly in my night table. Big deal!

    4. Re:Who wants to charge their watch daily? by lucm · · Score: 1

      I recharge my watch every few years in 5 minutes by taking it to the jeweler at the supermarket. The watch it self is 24 years old and was a 21st birthday present from my Dad.

      Your story sounds like a high school math exam question.

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    5. Re: Who wants to charge their watch daily? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't bother to take off my watch at all, don't have to charge for years. Why would I want to give up that convenience, I am not a masochist.

    6. Re: Who wants to charge their watch daily? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's a plus. I still like their laptops but that's the only Apple product left in my house.

  6. So I own an Apple Watch by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 1

    I notice they don't break the sales down at all, so I have to wonder how many Series 2 watches actually have sold versus how many buyers were like me and weren't willing to spend until they were available for under $300.

    I do like my watch, but I want to see how long its useful lifetime is. If the thing isn't good for three years at a minimum, I probably won't be a repeat customer. The argument for why it's useful is fairly narrow.

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    1. Re:So I own an Apple Watch by JaredOfEuropa · · Score: 2

      Yeah, it is useful in a few cases. But in order for me to be motivated to keep it charged, it'll have to be a little bit better. And in order for me to strap it to my wrist every morning, it'll have to look a bit better. I don't mind spending around €1000 for a smart watch that looks good, i.e. has a well made metal case and a good metal or leather strap, but I don't want to spend that much on something that looks good but will be obsolete in a couple of years. If they can commit to a certain form factor for like a decade and offer an upgrade program where they'll swap out the guts for a reasonable fee, then they'll have a winner in my book.

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  7. Status symbol? by Gravis+Zero · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It seems like Apple products have been moving from useful products more toward just being status symbols. Seriously, the Apple Watches provide you with near zero useful functionality and have really shitty battery-life.

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    1. Re:Status symbol? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It seems like Apple products have been moving from useful products more toward just being status symbols. Seriously, the Apple Watches provide you with near zero useful functionality and have really shitty battery-life.

      I'm not sure about it being a status symbol. Maybe more of a symbol of a nerd or an Apple fanboy.

      I certainly wouldn't want such a dorky looking watch strapped to my wrist, regardless of the cost - which let's be honest, most people could afford if they wanted one. It isn't exactly a Rolex.

    2. Re: Status symbol? by CapS · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I've had the Apple Watch for quite awhile, and it has some convenient features. Using it for payments is faster than credit card chips, heart rate monitor is excellent, it can unlock my computer, reading quick texts/notifications is nice, I like looking quickly to see my next meeting location, outside temperature at a glance is a help, and GPS directions at a glance with taps is often better than looking at the phone (when I'm driving a car that doesn't have a phone mount). I used to take my phone out of my pocket probably 100-200 times a day. Now it's more like once or twice an hour.

      The battery has never run out on me. If I've forgotten to charge it overnight I put it on the charger for about 20 minutes while I'm getting ready in the morning and that's enough for the day.

      As far as a status symbol, I don't think that's the case. The people I know who have one wear it for the features, not the status. In fact I'd rather not have the that kind of attention.

    3. Re:Status symbol? by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      have been moving from

      Implying they weren't from the beginning?

    4. Re:Status symbol? by Distortions · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I bought an apple watch a few months after release in 2015.
      Despite the claims of bad battery life... i never have the battery run out on me, even if i have very long day.
      Yes, if you sit there and screw with apps, because you expect it to be a smartphone with a tiny screen... you will drain the battery.

      I've flown well over a hundred flights since i bought it, and smacked/scraped the watch too many times to count. It's been in the shower, sinks, snow / ice / rain / sun hundreds of times... Its been on top of mountains and at the sea-shore many times. it has really held up to the abuse.
      Other than a few tiny micro-scratches on the wristband ( didn't even make it through the anodizing )... it looks like the day i bought it.

      It works great for siri, and speakerphone ( hold mic near mouth, lets siri work in noisy environments like the car, or even in the shower with water running ).
      Silent notifications ( life saver, when we are rolling audio all day ), and the haptic feedback also does a great job of notifying you in noisy environments... No more missing what the GPS said, or missing that text tone and vibration walking around at a convention...

      I can make a small gesture with my wrist and see the time/date, weather, sunrise/sunset (useful for photography, and being in different timezones / latitudes all the time.), appointments, alarms, notifications... I get weather alerts of rain/snow or extreme weather that is happening soon... I use passbook to select flights and then shake wrist at gate... QR code pops up and scans. I can ping my phone if i leave it somewhere, i can ping tracking devices ( tile ) on my car keys, or even my suitcase, backpack... or the expensive software dongle I use for work.

      It might be expensive for what it does, but that doesn't invalidate its usefulness.

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    5. Re: Status symbol? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It wasnt status that forced my Rolex off my wrist. It was haptics, as a boomer who is loosing a little hearing I now actually get the txts people send, notice the alerts I set for myself, and the incomming phone calls. I keep a pedometer app running on the phone, check it one or twice a week; kicked an older Fitbit off my wrist. I find I check the weather more often on thw watch than the phone. I rounded our the warch face with eTrade, just to track the DJI.

      For me the buttons are very small; generally never use things not on the watch face. If anything every needed Siri its rhe watch; the phones in my pocket and I dont pull the thing out to talk to. I could see myself asking the watch a question and have it activate the phone. Particularly when driving, walking, biking.

      Battery life is issue, maybe a small strip of solar panel to supliment a over the weekend off wrist charge would help. I could see using sleep tracking as I do so much of it. I can see tracking heart rates or sweat restivity; but in truth I might not use them.

      I would prefer not to have so many apps running; maybe getting notified once or twice an hour is my limit before I feel bothered rather than helped. Having some AI on the watch thhat figures out how i respond and filters the haptic out or delays it a bit would be helpful

      Well I must go nap.

    6. Re:Status symbol? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They do accurately measure activity by manual wheelchair users. It's a small thing to most people, but a huge thing to them. Apple's R&D work is appreciated and has been rewarded with sales.

    7. Re:Status symbol? by SvnLyrBrto · · Score: 1

      To be a stats symbol, there has to be some rarity or exclusivity.

      The Apple Watch was a status symbol for maybe the first four months; when that Burberry castoff severely under-forecast the demand, you couldn't get them in stores, and they were going for 3x the price on eBay. Now? Every third barista you see has one, as do probably 90% of my coworkers. It's thoroughly mainstream and not a status symbol at all.

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    8. Re:Status symbol? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How did this dross get +5 insightful? is that some sort of insidie mod joke?

    9. Re:Status symbol? by Karlt1 · · Score: 1

      Slashdotters have been saying that Apple products are just a "fashion accesory" since the iPod. What normal person would wear a watch that wasn't a fashion accessory?

    10. Re: Status symbol? by robinsc · · Score: 1

      " I used to take my phone out of my pocket probably 100-200 times a day"

      probably not a typical usage pattern. Maybe you need to see a doctor ?

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    11. Re: Status symbol? by CapS · · Score: 1

      6 times an hour * 18 hours is 108 times. With text messages, checking meeting times, news/Twitter notifications, etc. I don't think those numbers are terribly far off. I'm fully willing to admit that I was looking at my phone a lot -- but I also believe many other people follow a similar (or perhaps worse) usage pattern.

  8. What is PT Barnum wearing though? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    A "brave" customer born every minute...

  9. Sheep! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You do know that Steve Jobs is long gone.. and won't be resurrected? You can't worship him anymore and you can't support him with your ca$h as he found out you can't take it with you. You're supporting Tim Cook and his board members who collectively don't give two shits about the consumer like Steve did (or Woz.. but I digress).

    Apple is falling behind and nobody knows what their focus is (self-driving cars anyone?). They are busy copying Samsung for the iPhone. They are letting the Mac desktop line languish for years.. and the Mac Laptop feels so 2012. The iPad is also lagging enough to have other Android makers overrun their walled garden.

    This is severe enough that Microsoft has developed yet another version of Windows 10. Windows 10S which comes on their latest surface laptop. It is new version of the OS that focuses on the Windows Store (sound familiar) where you by default can only load applications from the store... so another walled garden just down the street from Cupertino.

    https://blogs.windows.com/devices/2017/05/02/introducing-surface-laptop-powered-by-windows-10-s/#5QdtQ7BjrQGtk2ud.97

    Innovate Tim... innovate or die in mediocrity.

    Peace out.

    1. Re: Sheep! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Apple has so much money stockpiled they cant die. If all their current stuff somehow stops making gobs of profit, they can buy their way into any market. There was talk they might buy Disney...that's how much money they have, that they could arguably buy another huge profit machine.

      You're the one that needs the reality check...Apple isn't going anywhere.

    2. Re: Sheep! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      Thank you for your obvious knowledge of the massive piles of ca$h that Apple has. How much of that pile did you contribute to? You missed the point. They are constantly banking on the Apple Fanbois/Fangirls to purchase their products outright without shopping for a competitor. I'm not saying Apple is going anywhere as they are the current, virus invested maggot inducing 800 pound Gorilla in the room. What I'm indicating is they are falling way behind in innovation and sooner or later the white-robed disciples of Steve might be prone to wake up and figure out Apple is Carousel. After 30 years your gem turns white.

      You could make your same piles of cash argument about "can't die" for:

      Digital Equipment Corporation
      Compaq
      Xerox
      IBM
      Northrup
      Martin Marietta
      Enron (62Billion in assets when they folded)
      Nortel (Canada)

      Peace out.

    3. Re:Sheep! by jcr · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Apple is falling behind

      Apple is the most valuable private company in the world. You're delusional.

      -jcr

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    4. Re: Sheep! by that+this+is+not+und · · Score: 1

      Money can't buy me love.

    5. Re:Sheep! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You aren't objective please state so. Your comment scale (52032) and your email address (jcr@NospaM.mac.com) all but remove credibility from your comments.

      I have a Mac Pro laptop that I use on travel, I have an Ipad, I have more than one ipod. I also have a Zune or 2, and a Toshiba laptop that I'm typing on right now (using Ubuntu).

      Most valuable private company? ...maybe yesterday.

      http://nypost.com/2017/03/06/apple-will-no-longer-be-the-worlds-most-valuable-company/

      Step off your spearmint unicorn mount and smell the roses. The world changes... fast.

    6. Re: Sheep! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm not sure your point other than your weird hatred of Apple blinds you. Yes, any company can fail, but the richest one still making the most money per quarter is the least likely to fail.

      Why does this bother you so much? Do you work for the competition? Did someone from Apple rape you? Why are you so angry?

      I have no Apple products myself, but I do have some of their stock. I diversify, and tend to invest in stock that pays dividends and trends upwards.

    7. Re:Sheep! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A mac.com address. How cute. Is your aol.com full?

    8. Re:Sheep! by mjwx · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Apple is falling behind

      Apple is the most valuable private company in the world. You're delusional.

      -jcr

      And that makes them magically protected from screwing up or falling behind... How?

      At one point, IBM was the worlds most valuable company. Hell, we even said things like "You'll never be fired for buying IBM" and "What does IBM stand for, 'Immense Buckets of Money'". Ahh the 90's, good times. The warning goes without saying: Pride goeth before a fall.

      I think we've already passed peak Apple and they're going to start to descend into being just another device. Apple have managed to evade this being noticeable by expanding into other markets like China and India, but now they've got nowhere left to expand into and their decline in popularity is going to be noticeable. Apples problem here is that their competitors are just as good, if not better than they are. Sure Apple will be around for a while but their power is waning, just like IBM in the 2000's.

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    9. Re: Sheep! by YrWrstNtmr · · Score: 1

      There was talk they might buy Disney
      We already saw that movie. AOL and TimeWarner. Didn't work out well. The sequel (MSNBC) isn't doing so hot either.
      Don't think we need to extend this into a trilogy.

    10. Re: Sheep! by lucm · · Score: 0

      Yes, any company can fail, but the richest one still making the most money per quarter is the least likely to fail.

      Did you look at the list before getting your panties in a bunch? All of those companies seemed like they were making shittons of money per quarter.

      Apple owes more than 100 billions. Of their pile of cash, only 20 billions are available, the rest is stuck offshore and can't be used to acquire DIsney or anything else in the USA. I don't know what spreadsheet you use to make your investments planning but if it's telling you that Apple is a financially sound company, it's broken. If you want to do some speculation because you expect that other idiots will be willing to pay more for that stock down the road, fine; but don't pretend that it's a wise investment. Their market is saturated, the brand has lost its prestige, and the innovation is gone. You might as well invest in Big Tobbacco.

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    11. Re:Sheep! by lucm · · Score: 1

      Apple is the most valuable private company in the world.

      I think someone should call the SEC because lots of people have bought shares of that private company in the public market.

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    12. Re:Sheep! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's a public company.

    13. Re:Sheep! by Zontar+The+Mindless · · Score: 1

      "Comment scale"? His *user ID* (52032) indicates that he's been a registered user of the site since 1998 or so.

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    14. Re:Sheep! by Distortions · · Score: 1

      I completely agree. Apple is completely falling behind.
      They are over-obsessed with making thin/light devices.

      My macbook pro is light enough, and thin enough already.
      I need more CPU/GPU power and longer battery life.

      I have no plans to upgrade unless they fix the mess that is the new macbook.

      That has nothing to do with the apple watch.
      I've had one for nearly two years, and I even got an expensive special-edition black anodized one.
      It was still worth every penny.

      Most people don't get it... but if you have one for a while, you will love it.
      It's so much quicker to glance at your watch. It's so much nicer to get tapped on the wrist, and siri is faster and can actually hear you when you talk into the mic on your wrist.

      Its not a huge deal, and it's an expensive luxury... but it's really nice to have.

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    15. Re:Sheep! by Gr8Apes · · Score: 1

      I think we've already passed peak Apple and they're going to start to descend into being just another device. Apple have managed to evade this being noticeable by expanding into other markets like China and India, but now they've got nowhere left to expand into and their decline in popularity is going to be noticeable. Apples problem here is that their competitors are just as good, if not better than they are. Sure Apple will be around for a while but their power is waning, just like IBM in the 2000's.

      Apple can go a number of ways. If they truly invest in modernizing their desktop lines and keep on top of improving products, They will continue to do well. IBMs problem was that they didn't cannibalize their own business, so others did it for them. Apple has shown no such tendencies, and that is why they are where they are.

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    16. Re:Sheep! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Apple has 1/4 of a TRILLION dollars in cash on hand. They could blow 2 BILLION dollars a year and still be fine when your great grand children are retiring. Do you under stand that this is an INSANE amount of cash reserve to have? They have massive inertia at this point, competing with a company with that many resources will be quite difficult as even if you have a better Idea, they can out spend you, and out lawyer you or buy your suppliers right out from under you. I wouldn't exactly call that "falling behind". Apple is not "magically protected" but once you're that big there is a large amount of rent seeking you can do even if your rate of expansion slows. And you can vertically integrate like a madman.

    17. Re:Sheep! by jcr · · Score: 0

      Publicly traded, privately owned. The only bigger company I know of is Saudi Aramco, which is essentially a department of the Saudi government.

      -jcr

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    18. Re: Sheep! by that+this+is+not+und · · Score: 1

      It's much quicker not to glance at your wrist or your phone. It's much healthier to not be a twitch response organism in a wireless electronic rapid response network.

    19. Re:Sheep! by Bearhouse · · Score: 1

      Ah yes...the Big Blue...having (briefly) worked there in the 90s I give you:

      Icompatible Bits (of) Machinery
      Idiots Become Managers and

      I've Been Misled

    20. Re:Sheep! by Cmdln+Daco · · Score: 1

      We used to say that companies with huge cash reserves were major targets for takeover operators. When a company has a large cash reserve, you can spend oodles of money in your effort to take it over. You only need to succeed for all the money you spent to be paid back in spades.

    21. Re:Sheep! by Cmdln+Daco · · Score: 1

      Apple has 1/4 of a trillion dollars tied up in offshore assets they cannot bring into the US to invest and/or use in their defense.

      That sounds like a ripe opportunity for somebody with deep pockets to take them over.

    22. Re:Sheep! by maestroX · · Score: 1

      Apple is falling behind

      Apple is the most valuable private company in the world. You're delusional.

      Microsoft is also more valuable than ever, yet fallen behind.

  10. Who buys this crap? by Ritz_Just_Ritz · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Seriously....a watch that goes toes up if you don't charge it daily? I know you've got the contingent of folks that buy stuff because "it's cool," but a watch that can't go a couple of days without charging it?

    Pass.

    1. Re: Who buys this crap? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's why I returned my Microsoft band as well. Charging daily is useless

    2. Re:Who buys this crap? by Yaztromo · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I inherited a watch from my grandfather after her passed away. He wore it for decades. I'm pretty sure the band isn't original -- it seems much newer than the watch itself.

      But get this -- to use it you have to wind it up -- every day! Can you imagine such a thing? This man, and many others like him for decades started their day having to wind their watch, because you couldn't go a couple of days without winding it.

      And somehow, perhaps miraculously, his generation won WWII. He himself served in the Canadian Forces, attaining the rank of Sergeant. And yet every day he had to wind his watch.

      Yaz

    3. Re:Who buys this crap? by swillden · · Score: 2

      Seriously....a watch that goes toes up if you don't charge it daily? I know you've got the contingent of folks that buy stuff because "it's cool," but a watch that can't go a couple of days without charging it?

      Go through slashdot comments of a few years ago, and you'll find large numbers of people saying the same thing about phones.

      I don't mind putting my watch on its charger at night. I don't like wearing it while I sleep anyway. I'd rather not have to charge it every night but it's really not that much of a hardship -- and well worth it for the functionality of the watch.

      IMO, a normal timepiece isn't worth the effort of strapping onto my wrist every morning, but a smartwatch is. Especially since mine (LG Sport Watch) has LTE, so I occasionally don't even bother to carry my phone. I can receive and respond to text messages, check my calendar, get navigation directions, play music (via bluetooth), make NFC purchases, track my bike rides/runs, and much more, all without my phone. I can't make calls because I have a data-only SIM in the watch, plus it's weird and uncomfortable talking to your wrist (I tried it), but I don't make many phone calls anyway. The phone does most of those things better of course, but it's not always convenient to carry it, and even when I have it it's not always convenient to pull it out of my pocket.

      IMO, a smartwatch does enough more than a watch to justify charging it nightly, just like a smartphone does enough more than a phone to justify charging it nightly.

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    4. Re:Who buys this crap? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You know what else needs charging daily? Me. There's a period of about eight hours every night when I'm not going to use any gadgets. Putting them on charge too during this time is no big deal.

    5. Re:Who buys this crap? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But get this -- to use it you have to wind it up -- every day! Can you imagine such a thing?

      I'm not the same you wrote to, but that was pretty much situation till mid 70's for almost everyone who did not have automatic winding which was still pretty expensive feature, especially in women's smaller watches. I got my first automatic winding Omega (Genéve Dynamic like that but steel not gold coloured) when I entered secondary school 1970, before that I had some old cheap watch my brother had worn before and wich had to be wound every day. Automatic winding never became commonplace before cheap electric knock-off numerical only LED (seven-segment display only) watches became popular end of that decade because of being hip, cheap, didn't need to wound just change batteries once a year at that time. I never had those LED display clocks, didn't need one I was happy with the one I had which only downside was that because it was bit more expensive I had take some care not to break it accidentally. I've still got that Omega and use it occasionally, its nice watch, but I've got couple of newer watches I have bought later that I prefer every day use and which are lighter to wear. I don't consider myself a watch aficionado with having just few watches bought over the years, but none of yet which are smart watches.

    6. Re:Who buys this crap? by Cmdln+Daco · · Score: 1

      Unless, of course, these gadgets are advertised as useful for health monitoring, including the time when you are asleep.

  11. Round by markdavis · · Score: 1

    >"Were you one of the 3.5 million customers who purchased an Apple Watch in the first quarter of 2017?"

    Uh, nope. Moto 360, and now Moto 360.2. Round like a nice watch should be, and always-on display like a watch should be! Oh, and works with ALL phones. Plus it cost less, has a better band, and has been out longer.

    And for years I get stopped all the time with questions about how something some nice isn't Apple .

    1. Re:Round by dugancent · · Score: 1

      The 360.2, perhaps. A smartwatch without GPS is all but useless if you want to use it as a fitness device.

      I'm happy with my Garmin Vivoactive. I can get notifications, track my daily run and steps. It works fin with the iPhone and best of all, it didn't cost $300.

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  12. I like Seiko approach to wearables by future+assassin · · Score: 1

    this ones does a snazzy job for me https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B0072... and my phone in my pocket handles the calls.

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  13. Swimmers watch by Kozar_The_Malignant · · Score: 1

    I have a series 2 watch, and I love it. I bought it for one reason only, I'm a serious swimmer. It's waterproof at shallow depths, and I can load complex workouts on it. I live in rural area without a masters' swim program, so it works great for me. The only real alternative is a Garmin device that costs twice as much.

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    1. Re:Swimmers watch by aaarrrgggh · · Score: 1

      Bought one for my wife for swimming as well. Both of us (had mine a few months longer) are quite happy with them, especially the GPS independence from the phone, and being waterproof.

  14. Going strong at two years out by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

    I got an Apple Watch at launch. It shows no signs of issues, is still in great condition, and still runs well - the software updates have been really a boon as using third party apps (or even native ones) is much more useful with the side button as app switcher/launcher...

    I do find it very useful at this point, for lots of little things.

    I also plan to keep mine for three years and possibly get a series three when those come out. But I may wait even one more cycle...

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    "There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
    1. Re:Going strong at two years out by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I got an Apple Watch at launch. It shows no signs of issues, is still in great condition, and still runs well

      I thought you were going to tell us that it's because you keep it in your drawer all the time.

    2. Re: Going strong at two years out by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You iFaggets copy-paste the same bullshit about your iJunk over over again, it's not funny anymore.

  15. Replaced my Pebble Watch... by sillivalley · · Score: 2

    ...With an Apple Watch 2 -- I liked the pebble, but it's been abandoned (and mine is getting flakey).

  16. Re: Who needs to? Keep up Uncle Luddite. by dugancent · · Score: 1

    Can the Garmin summon an Uber with a press?
    The Garmin can track fitness data but only easily for Garmin stuff, whereas the Apple Watch has quite a lot of fitness apps that are well integrated with it...

    My garmin Vivoactive can call an Uber, if installed the Uber app on it.

    My fitness data syncs with Garmin, Strava, Fitbit (for work points), Apple Health and dropbox.

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  17. Re:Who needs to? Keep up Uncle Luddite. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    a) Garmin is an arbitrary computational device. Read up on ConnectIQ sometime.
    b) Yes, the Garmin can unlock your computer. See (a).
    c) Yes, the Garmin can attach to your light meter blah blah blah. See (a).
    d) Yes, the Garmin can summon an Uber with a press. See (a).
    e) The Garmin watch tracks *actual* fitness, not this fake fitness bullshit that Apple sells you. Oh, and it doesn't need to be paired with your phone to do so, since it has the GPS built in.
    f) Garmin watch will last 10+ days on a charge if you don't do any workouts. If you do workouts it lasts 6-7.
    g) Charging the device nightly means you're not getting sleep and resting heart rate analysis on a consistent basis. Resting heart rate is especially important for those of us doing actual fitness.

    Quite frankly you'd have to be some epic level of moron to purchase an Apple Watch of either generation considering just how far behind Garmin they are in just about every category that matters, including price.

  18. They sold one? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    OMFG!

  19. Unsurprising by OneHundredAndTen · · Score: 0

    Never underestimate the herding power of the iSheep.

    1. Re: Unsurprising by PoopJuggler · · Score: 1

      So you only but products that are unpopular? How's that working out for you?

    2. Re: Unsurprising by OneHundredAndTen · · Score: 0

      So you only but products that are unpopular? How's that working out for you?

      Non sequitur. Study some basic logic, without or without other iSheep.

    3. Re: Unsurprising by PoopJuggler · · Score: 1

      Considering your blind hatred of Apple and your nerdy appeal to formal logic, I think my question has been answered.

  20. You are partly right, but mostly wrong by SuperKendall · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Garmin is an arbitrary computational device. Read up on ConnectIQ sometime.

    Have to admit I did not know that existed, and I did read up on it.

    But how does that matter any more than the PebbleAPI? Which was also quite good and expansive.

    Charging the device nightly means you're not getting sleep and resting heart rate analysis on a consistent basis.

    If you read everything you'd see I also said you can charge while it's in the shower.

    Garmin watch will last 10+ days on a charge if you don't do any workouts. If you do workouts it lasts 6-7.

    So it's still off of your person sometime. That is not that huge a leap from the Series 2, and what happens next year when Apple is within a day of Garmin's figure?

    Quite frankly you'd have to be some epic level of moron to purchase an Apple Watch of either generation considering just how far behind Garmin they are in just about every category that matters, including price.

    See posts below about people purchasing the Apple Watch for Swimming, because it was 1/2 the price of the Garmin that could do the same thing...

    Furthermore while I'll admit the app support is more impressive than I thought, in what world do you really think Garmin is ahead of Apple on this? If *you* read the AppleWatch API you'd find it's quite a lot more capable than the Garmin API, and there are a ton more Apple Watch apps now than there are Garmin apps.

    So how are you not some kind of Epic Moron to claim Garmin is ahead in any way that matters - including price?

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    "There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
    1. Re: You are partly right, but mostly wrong by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Calm down, iFagget, nobody wants your stupid precious Crapple watch that needs charging every fucking day.

    2. Re: You are partly right, but mostly wrong by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You actually read the moment his brain explodes. i love the fact he went AC to drop that neuanced insult

  21. Easily explained by uvajed_ekil · · Score: 1

    "The Apple Watch Outsold Every Other Wearable Last Quarter"
    This is because of two factors, the first being that "wearables" are stupid, with the second being that Apple fanatics will but literally anything that Apple markets to them.

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    1. Re: Easily explained by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The other factor is that wearable sales have cratered. Remember 'trash compactors' as built-in kitchen appliances? I bet there are still homes that have one.

    2. Re:Easily explained by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When I was a kid I used to hang around with some very intelligent and big-ego'd individuals. They would be merciless with anyone who thought the losers were somehow the winners and the winners won because of reasons other then they were the best.

    3. Re:Easily explained by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They would be merciless with anyone who thought the losers were somehow the winners and the winners won because of reasons other then they were the best.

      Lance Armstrong fans per chance?

  22. Sheeple by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sheeple throwing away money hoping for a useful product.

    How many people buy a 2nd watch when it dies after a year?

    When a watch replaces my smartphone, and I believe that will happen, then I'll get one. It will need 24 hrs of real battery time - 3 days would be better, but I travel with a portable battery pack already, so this isn't an issue for those weekend trips.

    I have a use for a tablet much more than a 5 feature watch. My current watch is solar powered. Can last 6 months without seeing sunlight. Tells time in multiple timezones, has alarms, stopwatch, split, compass, barometer, and can go under water. It can't answer a phone or get a text or open a door, or control the volume on a TV.

  23. Bought a 2nd hand one by seoras · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I've been wearing an automatic Swiss watch for years now. It's needing a service though, when I take it off before bed it's dead in the morning.
    I write Apps and I thought I'd buy a 2nd hand Apple Watch to try it out and see if I could do anything with my own Apps on it.
    Wasn't convinced when it first came out but now that you can pick up a series 1 for 1/4 of it's price new it's not too risky to try, i could punt it on again.
    So I got a stainless steel 42mm S1 for under $200
    The battery on this used watch lasts a whole day easily, I take it off and put it on the charger when I go to bed. Better than the Swiss watch.
    The health monitoring is neat, I like that it reminds you stand up, take a breath and move my ass if I've been sitting coding too long.
    I feel like I can leave the phone and I don't carry it around as much. Phone calls aren't missed, I like that I can answer them on my wrist.
    It's the little things about it that I've come to appreciate that my very nice Swiss automatic doesn't do.
    Cooking dinner, I set a timer so I can leave the kitchen and that tap on the wrist when I need to return is really handy.
    Logging into PayPal, which I do a lot for work, I have 2 step verification and the Symantec VIP app on the watch is so much quicker than using the phone.
    The smart watch isn't a smart phone and never will be.
    It's probably not for everyone but anyone who hasn't tried it probably shouldn't critique it until they've tried it.
    It's one of those things that until you've tried it and had one for at least a month you probably won't get the point of it.
    I just can't see myself going back to the Swiss automatic.

    1. Re:Bought a 2nd hand one by dmini · · Score: 1

      Ah, here's the secret of Apple Watch success - people buy one for their 1st hand, and another one for the 2nd hand.

  24. Re:Who needs to? Keep up Uncle Luddite. by thegarbz · · Score: 1

    Can the Garmin attach to my light meter and let me know the color temperature of a scene?

    The fact that you list this as a number two feature on your list just affirms my belief that you are wearing a useless toy on your wrist.

  25. Re: Who needs to? Keep up Uncle Luddite. by PoopJuggler · · Score: 1

    Useless compared to what? I'm sure I could find a few things in your house that are less useful than a smartwatch.

  26. Not for teachers - Re:Status symbol? by Hasaf · · Score: 1

    I teach at a middle school and I notice that many of the teachers wear Smart Watches. First off, we need to know when the bell will ring. not know close to when it will ring; to know when it will ring.

    The school clock is synchronized to the radio time signal, as are most of the teachers watches. This includes the smart watches. Me, I wear a G-Shock with radio sync.

    Many of those same teachers receive messages through the day. This includes district messages that we are expected to be aware of immediately after they are sent (me, I just don't pay attention to them). In addition, teachers are forbidden from using cell phones in the class, just like the students.

    I am also aware that several of the teachers like the ease of setting alarms. Several things happen in the day that teachers like to be aware of: come teachers like to set an alarm for one minute before the end of each class and three minutes before the end of their prep period and lunch. Then there are the oddly timed meetings randomly scattered through the week. Me, I only use three alarms through the day; but some use quite a few.

    All of this adds up to the smart watches becoming very popular for teachers (no, teachers don't get a meaningful discount). As far as a status in that environment; not really. We are all aware of each others pay grade, it is public information. In some jobs the smart watch is viewed as a tool (it just happens to be one I have little interest in).

    1. Re:Not for teachers - Re:Status symbol? by fermion · · Score: 1
      After instruction you are supposed to have some wait time. I find the breath app helps with that. The activity monitor helps with balance of stationary 8nstruction and moving around. I can cancel calls without disrupting.

      As shown time and again, there is a significant Luddite element around here that is not creative enough to see possibilities. "No wireless, less space than a Nomad. Lame."

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      "She's a scientist and a lesbian. She's not going to let it slide." Orphan Black
  27. This is awesome news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So out of the 10 smart watches sold last quarter, Apple sold 4 of them, Samsung 3, and Cheap Chinese Wearables the other 3.

  28. Re: Who needs to? Keep up Uncle Luddite. by thegarbz · · Score: 1

    Useless compared to what? I'm sure I could find a few things in your house that are less useful than a smartwatch.

    Of course. Which is why I don't carry those items around everywhere I go.

  29. People I know who have them really like them by Bearhouse · · Score: 1

    OK; so I'm a serious watch nerd, and have a decent collection of all kinds of stuff...can't see myself getting one of these but people I know like 'em a lot.
    Female colleague has a bunch of nice timepieces, including a beautiful ladies classic Rolex Datejust in gold and steel. Also has a Cartier - fine piece.
    Yet since she got a cheap-looking iWatch in pink she wears it every day. Why? Utility.
    If you're an iPhone user, looks like they are genuinely useful.

  30. Meh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My Apple Watch has sat on my nightstand for the last six month, I should sell it on eBay.