Debian 8.8 Released (debian.org)

prisoninmate quotes Softpedia: The Debian Project announced today Debian GNU/Linux 8.8, the most advanced stable version of the Jessie series, which brings corrections for numerous packages and various security flaws discovered and patched since the release of the Debian GNU/Linux 8.7 maintenance update back in mid-January 2017... "This update mainly adds corrections for security problems to the stable release, along with a few adjustments for serious problems. Security advisories were already published separately and are referenced where available," reads today's announcement.

"Please note that this update does not constitute a new version of Debian 8 but only updates some of the packages included. There is no need to throw away old 'jessie' CDs or DVDs but only to update via an up-to-date Debian mirror after an installation, to cause any out of date packages to be updated."
Debian 8.8 contains more than 150 bug fixes and security updates.

Comments

Debian and systemd issues :)

[najajomo]

systemd issues .. 626 open ...

Re:Debian and systemd issues :)

[Gravis Zero]

Systemd's issues are only getting worse with time.

Re:Debian and systemd issues :)

[gweihir]

Well, that is no surprise at all to anybody competent. The tricky things about KISS is that hacking something complex together initially that sort-of works is a lot easier than coming up with a simple solution initially. Over time, the simple solution then becomes massively better in terms of overall cost, because it is only gets easier to maintain and it stability is massively better, while the complex solution slowly deteriorates into total trash.

Inexperienced developers (like the systemd team) have not experienced that effect themselves or did not understand it when it happened and stupid developers (like the systemd team) do not know that because they ignored everybody that warned of the effect and also failed to actually educated themselves from the literature. This is not the fist time this happens, after all, systemd is just an especially striking example of extreme developer incompetence.

Incidentally, the gross KISS violation of systemd is (besides the dishonorable and utterly despicable campaign for its adoption) the main criticism of systemd.

Re:Debian and systemd issues :)

[thegarbz]

After reading the first 4 pages of those I've yet to find something that is actually relevant to the primary use for Debian: desktops and servers.

Looks like many edge cases when you're running e.g. a RasbperryPi with a RTC that has a flat battery, or an architecture that isn't in common use, or mildly annoying crap like timers wrong, or minor parse errors.

What I do note is the number of them have fixes in the pipeline and have milestones attached to them. This is surprising because based on Slashdot wisdom the devs don't respond to bugs and everything is by design.

FreeBSD folks

[Billly Gates]

Large supported and mature code base used by large amounts of people. Closest to Debian in it's community and server oriented features. No SystemD, jails, ZFS, dtrace, ports, pkg-add, and the award winning FreeBSD handbook and better manpages.

Re:FreeBSD folks

[0100010001010011]

And isn't even that bad as a laptop machine.

AwesomeWM is 'OS' independent so my interface is the same.

NVidia has drivers.

Wifi and Sound work fine.

I had an easier time getting sound working in FreeBSD than I did with Debian and PulseAudio (who designed that ....)

Re:Don't care anymore, switched to Devuan.

[Billly Gates]

FreeBSD is alot more mature and well supported and is also server oriented. Sadly, Duvuan is what Debian should be. You can use SystemD if you want in Duvuan. You can also use OpenRC or Ubuntus event driven startup I think called startupd, or old school Unix init. Use whatever you want man. But it has no support except for a few angry exdebian users.

With FreeBSD you also get jails,dtrace, ports, pkg-add, award winning TCP/IP stack that invented the world wide web, stability which Juniper, pfense, and even Cisco once used, and better documentation with the FreeBSD handbook and better manpages and cool stuff in /usr/share/doc. Only downside is java support and it's virtualization servers are weaker than KMS (which FreeBSD does support an older version as a host). It really feels like a Unix that doesn't try to pretend to be anything else. Getting a gui going is a little more work but in the pkg-add and ports.

I use FreeBSD's pfsense for all my virtual routers on my virtual machine collection at home which is another cool thing if you do not want to fiddle awhile getting a cisco environment up. You can buy pfsense hardware racks too which are great for small to medium sized offices that do not need or want to pay the Cisco tax.

Fix your charing skills!

[szy]

Systemd's issues are only getting worse with time.

The scales on this chart for the secondary vertical axis makes it unreadable. Qty of open issues would have been much easier to read if only one axis was used. If the author insists to use a secondary axis, then at least make the major points in sync with the primary vertical axis.

Re: Don't care anymore, switched to Devuan.

[Type44Q]

Relax. He's not trying to encourage random people to switch to BSD; he's trying to encourage intelligent people to switch.

You're safe. :)