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Trump Signs Executive Order On Cybersecurity (techcrunch.com)
President Trump on Thursday signed a long-delayed executive order on cybersecurity that "makes clear that agency heads will be held accountable for protecting their networks, and calls on government and industry to reduce the threat from automated attacks on the internet," reports The Washington Post. From the report: Picking up on themes advanced by the Obama administration, Trump's order also requires agency heads to use Commerce Department guidelines to manage risk to their systems. It commissions reports to assess the country's ability to withstand an attack on the electric grid and to spell out the strategic options for deterring adversaries in cyberspace. [Thomas Bossert, Trump's homeland security adviser] said the order was not, however, prompted by Russia's targeting of electoral systems last year. In fact, the order is silent on addressing the security of electoral systems or cyber-enabled operations to influence elections, which became a significant area of concern during last year's presidential campaign. The Department of Homeland Security in January declared election systems "critical infrastructure." The executive order also does not address offensive cyber operations, which are generally classified. This is an area in which the Trump administration is expected to be more forward-leaning than its predecessor. Nor does it spell out what type of cyberattack would constitute an "act of war" or what response the attack would invite. "We're not going to draw a red line," Bossert said, adding that the White House does not "want to telegraph our punches." The order places the defense secretary and the head of the intelligence community in charge of protecting "national security" systems that operate classified and military networks. But the secretary of homeland security will continue to be at the center of the national plan for protecting critical infrastructure, such as the electric grid and financial sector.
We're going to have tremendous cyber, folks. You and me, we'll have the best cyber. We're going to have so much cyber, you're going to say "Please, Mr. President, I'm so tired of cybering!" It's going to be some very great cyber, believe me.
I feel safer already!
Handy timing, obvious to distract from Comey's sacking, the subpoena, etc.
But can I point out just one of the more obscure stuff recent you may have missed?
Kushner corp trying to raise $150 million from Chinese investors for a 15% stake in some project that magically costs $1 billion, 1 Journal Square:
http://money.cnn.com/2017/05/06/news/jared-kushner-nicole-family-event/index.html
Except it doesn't cost $1 billion, the land cost $27 million, and $1 billion would put it in the top 10 most expensive skyscrapers, for a basic 79 story tower.
Why do billionaires not have enough equity or cash to fund this $150 million? Why expensive investors from china?... Because their projects are all in negative equity and they need to keep finding more investors to keep the company going.
This is how Kusher and Trump corp both work: They do a project, perhaps it costs $300 million. They borrow from the banks, who take the documents as collatoral, and lend a portion of the money , e.g. $200m. Outside investors are told the project costs e.g. $600 million, and $150 million/25% is up for sale to them. In reality their $150 million is buying $25 million of equity, but they don't know the full picture because the details are kept secret.
Money is scraped off the deal, in licensing fees, management fees etc. This is the profit for Kushers and Trumps, it's what keep their company going, and lets them pay the interest on their portion of bank loans.
Their property empire requires a constant stream of new investors buying into a false valuation of a project. Threats of lawsuits keep dissent down, and the books are kept secret so nobody can see. This is why the press was barred from the Kushner China investor meeting, because you don't want anyone connecting the dots.
OF HTIS MIND!
Hillary's server and the DNC servers were not government servers. Remember that the DNS refused to let the FBI look at the hacked servers.
This EO has nothing to do with the "russian's hacking the election" mantra.
because they aren't interested in that and certainly aren't doing that. That is the same with Trump. As my great-grandfather said, anyone that is talking about something certainly isn't doing something because otherwise they would be too busy to talk about it.
Just because no one can offer proof that it happened doesn't mean that it didn't. Since so many news sources have reported that it happened, all thinking people know it did despite the lack of evidence.
The Trump administration would never admit to it happening, so of course they wouldn't have a statement about it happening.
Hillary's server and the DNC servers were not government servers. Remember that the DNS refused to let the FBI look at the hacked servers.
This EO has nothing to do with the "russian's hacking the election" mantra.
You mean this part?
In fact, the order is silent on addressing the security of electoral systems or cyber-enabled operations to influence elections, which became a significant area of concern during last year's presidential campaign.
Well, it doesn't say the election system was hacked. It says a cyber-enabled operation influenced the election. A cyber-enabled operation targeting one candidate in an election fits that definition.
As North Korea (and China) just demonstrated, one day that line will be easy to cross and the USA will have to keep its promise or look stupid.
omg the US is so fucked with this dipshit :(
Trump doesn't need them any more. Now he's in, he'll be able to rig the next election by himself.
That's if there is a next election...
Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
If the US creates powerful new tools to detect and protect against all things cyber will the US and other nations get some new protection from the Automated Implant Branch (AIB) and Network Devices Branch (NDB) efforts?
With the US government demanding better security products, the NSA and CIA contractors will have to work harder.
Only a few of the better anti virus brands found the equation group https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... and Fluxwire Trojan and Archangel efforts.
"Found in the wild: Vault7 hacking tools WikiLeaks says come from CIA" (4/10/2017)
https://arstechnica.com/securi...
Wont someone think of the role of the clandestine services in this rush to improve US domestic cyber security?
Domestic spying is now "Benign Information Gathering"
Not really. Gobblygook. It means nothing. Been about a year since DNC "hack." Nothing but repetition without proof.
Al gore tried to warn us
USB infustructure = showboat
Was nobody held accountable before when a network got hacked? Does it mean we're saying goodbye to Ajit Pai for the recent FCC DDoS? Can one get Betsy DeVos sacked by hacking the Board of Education website? I have so many questions.
So what y'all are saying is that this is Trumps very own Reichskristallnacht?
because it's overvalued. As an investor if I misjudge the value of a property that's on me. There's all sorts of laws & rules about stating the value of a property and on paper Trump & Co follow those rules. That's what they're good at, running legal ponzi schemes. Similar to the crap Bane & Mitt Romney used to do. That's really what high end biz schools are for. They teach the very rich how to rob us all blind and get away with it.
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"Picking up on themes advanced by the Obama administration"
Yeah no, but nice try. The Obama administration has the worst cyber security record of any administration, especially when you consider both public and private hacks where the government should have stepped in (i.e. hacks by other countries against US companies or government contractors). Remember the Chinese OPM hack? Yah, that was under Obamas watch. 21 million plus personal records exposed. Remember when the Chinese hacked and stole plans for stealth drones and other military aircraft? That was Obama too. Remember the DNC hacks? Yah, that was on Obamas watch as well (sorry, Trump wasn't even elected yet). There is a list as long as my arm proving that the Obama administration was absolute shit at cyber security and he basically just shrugged and did nothing besides blabber.
It remains to be seen if Trump can get the federal government IT and contractors to get their shit together on this issue, but dont piss down my back and say it is raining. If he starts firing department heads or charging federal employees with criminal negligence where appropriate, we might see the epidemic of hacking fall off somewhat as industry standard measures get adopted and enforced across the federal government.
If you disagree, please post your argument. (-1, Overrated) isn't your personal censorship tool for views you don't like
There's likely a reason most of the US/UK AV products missed those tools. And the same reason is likely why Kapersky is getting bad press right now. Really hard to drop an NSL on them. The others, no problem.
AC Just like what was attempted with the Magic Lantern software https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
Domestic spying is now "Benign Information Gathering"
"Kushner is not involved in the operation of Kushner Companies and divested his interests in the Journal Square project by selling them to a family trust that he, his wife and his children are not beneficiaries of, which was suggested by the Office of Government Ethics. "
Cited from your own link. You lied. Or you don't even read the articles you cite.
Of course there will be! Even the Soviet Union had elections until the very end, with glowing approval rates of the reigning powers!
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
Just think of what would have happened with Hillary being elected. You'd see more things like this happening. Maybe you should be very glad that Trump was elected, instead of the other candidate that broke laws at every turn, pressured and threatened leaders of other countries to donate to her foundation. Spied on allies, and suddenly...just suddenly when she lost...the clinton global initiative shutdown, said organization took international kickbacks and offered access to government officials through "donations."
It wasn't that Clinton was terrible, that the democrats were corrupt, that they rigged their own primary, that they sank their own ship. That even with rigging at least one debate via Donna Brazile leaking questions to Clinton, that she still couldn't win. That they decided in to say "screw it" with an internal review of where it all went wrong. Then voted in someone who is even worse then Clinton as the head of the DNC. Nope, it wasn't her fault at all. And just keep digging, because the bullshit you're spouting will guarantee Trump a second term. Just like the Liberal Party of Ontario's actions will ensure that by July of next year it won't be a party at all.
Om, nomnomnom...
Does that mean i haz job now?
I'm always a little amazed at the people who find the Clinton's use of their influence, to get money for a charity that does actual charity, more appalling than Trump's phony charity, which only benefits Trump. Is it really so awful to strong-arm rich people into giving money to do good work? Or are you simply blind to, or ignorant of, the illegal shenanigans of the Trump Foundation?
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The basic elements of the story are probably true, but this line is pure propaganda.
"Russia's targeting of electoral systems"
Notice how they've been gradually amping up the rhetoric? First it was blaming the evil Russians for hacking the DNC and Podesta e-mails. Then it was Russia "influencing" U.S. elections. Next, they started tossing in the phrase "Russia hacking U.S. elections"(total BS) and now it's "Russia targeting electoral systems"? The implication being that Russians actually hacked the voting machines?
WaPo also reported that evil Russians "Penetrated the U.S. Electricity Grid" when it was just some (apparently Russian-authored) malware found on one laptop at a VT utility. A laptop that was never tied into the electricity grid.
I'm no Trump fan, but this anti-Russian propaganda is as dangerous as it is nauseating. I haven't even seen proof that "Russians", let alone the Russian government, were responsible for the original DNC/Podesta hack.
If laptops get banned from planes - the problem will grow bigger!
Every POS IOT hardware device would need to be secure without backdoors , and updates for a reasonable time - else mandatory open sourced when not supported - so called end of life. Um that would upset Apple and Microsoft a tad. The FCC needs to do this yesterday.
Apply a heavy import duty on IOT things makers who ship duff products like IOT webcams.
In short that extra 10% would double IT budgets overnight - given that from Vault 7, the CIA stays mum on known severe exploits, while the CERT folk do a good job on a shoestring.
As stated sensitive stuff should not be on the internet
On time there was a mistake and the announcer read out next year's results.
Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
What about this line:
"...Russia's targeting of electoral systems..."
The word "systems" implies that the evil Russians were actually hacking the voting machines.
The WaPo is the worst "fake news" outlet in the country.
You know what always surprises me? That Clinton was an active member of the Obama administration while this was all going on and they bury their head in the sand over it while pointing their finger and going TRUMP.
Om, nomnomnom...
B-b-b-but her emails!
Make it retroactive. The ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ADMINISTRATION destroyed their own equipment over a non-existent virus attack.
By their own admission the Malware Infections on EDA’s Systems Were Overstated and the Disruption of IT Operations Was Unwarranted.
https://www.oig.doc.gov/OIGPublications/OIG-13-027-A.pdf
Just after firing Comey, Trump met with Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov. Now this was not bad just for the optics. No American press was allowed but Russian press was allowed. No that's not worst part. The Russian press was allowed to bring in their equipment to take photos in the Oval Office. That's the worst part: Trump allowed foreign officials to bring in electronic equipment into a sensitive area of the White House. Many security experts are dismayed that was allowed to happen. Former security officers have noted that it was standing policy that no one was allowed to bring in their phone/cameras into the Oval Office.
Well, there's spam egg sausage and spam, that's not got much spam in it.
What about this line:
"...Russia's targeting of electoral systems..."
The word "systems" implies that the evil Russians were actually hacking the voting machines.
They could have made that non-fake just by adding one word: "... Russia's alleged targeting of electoral systems ..."
But that would have brought down the whole propaganda operation by inserting doubt into the big claim, which is an absolute no-no if you're using the "Big Lie" methodology.
Bantam Dominique roosters crow a four-note song. Once you've heard it as "Happy BIRTHday" you can't NOT hear it that way
Trump would never rig the elections. He will modernize elections for the 21st century. A contractor will be selected based on the highest price, lowest quality work, to set up an HTTP only website that looks like it was designed in the 90's. Citizens will vote using this web site. In order for your vote to be accepted, you will have to check several boxes.
[x] I am a Citizen of the United States
[x] I have not previously submitted a vote in this election
[x] I am a white, rich, christian, heterosexual male
[x] I promise I am telling the truth and that the previous statements are equally truthful to this statement
I'll see your senator, and I'll raise you two judges.
Earlier this year the press brought in their cameras, I've seen the pictures. So half your statement is an outright lie.
Sean Spicer took a photo of the MLK bust in there with his phone, so the rest of your statement is an outright lie.
Perhaps Trump didn't want US press in there because when they get into the Oval Office the write stories about MLK bust being moved out of the office when it was still there. Maybe if the US press would stop outright lying, like you, they might get treated better. Until then, I think they should be barred from the Oval Office, they are not news, they are DNC propaganda.
People tend to get the government they deserve. George Carlin had it right.
Blaming the victims may make a good kick-off point for a comedy routine. But it's also a handy way to spike efforts to fix the problem, thus benefiting the victimizers.
After the media "sucked the air out of the room" when any of the other Republican primary reform candidates were talking (by focusing on Trump - whom they though would be the easiest candidate for Hillary to trounce), Trump/Pence was the only checkbox on the presidential ballot that looked like it might put a painful spike in Washington's increasingly corrupt business-as-usual, or stop a slide into totalitarianism or civil war.
Bantam Dominique roosters crow a four-note song. Once you've heard it as "Happy BIRTHday" you can't NOT hear it that way
Like every "executive order" issued by Trump, this one is racist and unconstitutional. If Clinton won and issued the same decree, that would've been most enlightened, of course.
In Soviet Washington the swamp drains you.
So... who is the head of the executive branch?
her foundation was a joke as well. ask the kids in haiti still waiting for their promised help
What's the problem, again?
/. is infested with Progressive posters and moderators. You'll never get any headway laying out anything that goes contrary to the Progressive hive mind about Clinton, Obama, and AGW.
Is that you Kim Jong Un?
President Trump wants people to be accountable. Isn't that exactly what we have been demanding for.. oh I don't know... longer than I have been alive? Comey had numerous problems, and up until he was fired both sides of the aisle voiced opinions of "incompetent", "abused his power", and "usurped Constitutional authority". Republicans were upset for numerous reasons, but primarily for making himself the Judge and Jury for the Hillary email crimes. Democrats because they feel he impacted the election of the same. All of those were from actions _BEFORE_ President Trump took office.
I'm pretty happy with some of President Trumps actions. The ban on lobbying for appointees is exceptional, and this one is just as good.
Which side is actually perpetuating the distraction here, the Dems who suddenly claim that the incompetent Comey is the greatest American since John Wayne, or the Republicans who let the incompetent claims stand and dismissed him since he had no support from the Deputy AG (whom Comey would report to)? The hypocrisy from the Dems is beyond palpable, and more and more people are simply dismissing them.
-The wise argue that there are few absolutes, the fool argues that there are no probabilities.
Since so many news sources have reported that it happened, all thinking people know it did despite the lack of evidence.
That word, thinking. To quote Inigo Montoya, I do not think it means what you think it means.
Thinking people do not just regurgitate things reported in the news.
The sky is fall.... blah blah blah
expect no federal services online.
Trump and his supporters, or in general, Republicans.
Do try to keep up.
... this is way bigger than just America. ...
This isn't purely about partisan US politics, this is about a web of influential hard to far right politicians acting with Putin's backing - Le Pen, Farage, Banks, Trump, Assange, are all interconnected on this and not by chance meetings, but by explicit, intentional communications with each other. Even outside of the Anglo-American-Franco circle it extends throughout Europe, Hungary's Jobbik, Greece's Golden Dawn, Geert Wilders, as so on - they're all very clearly linked with a little bit of research into this pro-Russian, anti-Western political web plaguing the West right now, and it should be horrifying to anyone in the West that values their wealth and freedom.
Sounds to me like you're in favor of a globalist new world order, think progress toward it is being nibbled to death by ducks, and are promulgating a new, McCarthy Era - style, Russian menace nightmare to counter it.
Now that people can get unfiltered news on the Internet (astroturf and all) and the mainstream media are exposed as shills for the 1%, they can see how badly they're being screwed (even if they can't always tell how the power screwdriver works). Result: A bunch of movements to dismantle the machine. And a general population that can recognize ideas like yours for what they are.
Unlike what they're opposing, they don't need coordination from some top puppetmaster. But (like the 13 colonies working with France) many of them are willing to find inspiration and accept support from wherever it might be found.
Bantam Dominique roosters crow a four-note song. Once you've heard it as "Happy BIRTHday" you can't NOT hear it that way
Oh, no. It'll be even better than that. They'll use the newfangled 'AI deep learning algorithm' to predict your vote and vote for you. After all automation is the New Shiny Thing, it'll make everyones' life better! No more wasting time with silly old manual 'voting', that's so Luddite and Last Thursday!
This is beyond laughable, even for Trump and his shitty fake-ass 'administration', since he has no goddamned clue what he's talking about. 'Cybersecurity' is largely an endless game of Whack-a-Mole; it's almost impossible to close all the holes, even if you air-gap everything someone will 'social engineer' their way into access anyway. This is just distraction from the fact that his campaign (and probably Trump personally) have been in bed with his buddies the Russians since Day One, and he's desperately scrambling to try to redirect everyones' attention away from uncovering it. Goddamned traitor. Worse than Nixon.
Probably has something to do with how before the Obama administration there wasn't a heavy investment in cyber anything? So naturally Obama has the worst record... They pretty much have the only record!
and then tweets about it from his Samsung Galaxy S3
IIUC, there was evidence that some hacking from someone using a Russian handle over an ISP located in Russia happened. Of course, this could all be spoofed, so that's not real evidence that the attack originated in Russia, or that the attacker commonly used a Russian handle, or that the Russian government had any connection. And it's not evidence that nobody else hacked anything. And the story I read didn't even quantify the degree of penetration.
As I said before in a different context, there are degrees and degrees. But there appears to be *some* proof.
I think we've pushed this "anyone can grow up to be president" thing too far.
Are you stating this because of the Obama Admin fiasco with the Obama Care website? That apparently pumped money into a Canadian Company using the most money in its irresponsible way.
so there will be appy apps?
NO!!!
SHINY apps. Shiny.
I'll see your senator, and I'll raise you two judges.
Partly, yes. I almost thought of mentioning that some way when I was writing that post, but didn't.
I'll see your senator, and I'll raise you two judges.
Apps
Nope. You won't need to do anything, your vote will be automatically made for you, no action on your part required. You won't even need to register to vote anymore; a Super Duper AI Deep Learning Algorithm Shiny Thingie will determine what political party you are automatically, register you, and make all your votes for you. No need for silly humans to bother themselves with learning how their government works, or any of those nasty annoying facts about candidates and issues, the Shiny machines will do it all fo ryou! Won't that be wonderful? All humans will have to do is eat, sleep, shit, and fuck.
The problem is that lying about "I promise I am telling the truth", would mean that you are also lying about the previous statement if " . . . and that the previous statements are equally truthful to this statement."
I'll see your senator, and I'll raise you two judges.
Remember to cash your Putin paycheck IMMEDIATELY
He has a tendency to switch banks without telling the contractors.
2.9 million more votes
yes, they did win
Of course the democrats were political pandering with both comments, same for the republicans. That doesn't reduce the optics of this. Their is a standard for political positions like this where you make a clean transition by asking for the person to step down, and they always resign in these type of positions.
You have obviously never worked in high level security of any type. One does not ask people with a certain level of access and clearance to resign or give them notice. You cut and cauterize immediately. If you don't understand the "why" you are not even trying.
Comey can still testify before Congress, and most likely will. Flynn was removed from post and is being asked to testify, so why would Comey be a special case? Repeating leftist platitudes instead of thinking for yourself is a bad tactic. History and logic trump your appeals to emotion.
Clearly it wasn't about what Comey did last year. That the administration can't keep the story straight about the firing, and Trump brought up the Russia investigation in the dismissal letter, as well as Trump bringing it up in his interview with Lester Holt that it was one of the issues while responding to a question about the Comey firing.
It wasn't? Last year had nothing to do with the decision? Who told you so, aliens signalling you? Your crystal ball said so? Imaginary friend? While it certainly was not the only reason, a history of issues with Comey sure as hell includes that one.
And who can't keep the story straight? The Trump Administration or the Leftist media who has been caught lying repeatedly? "Comey asked for money to investigate and was fired" which was a lie. "The Deputy AG said he would resign" was a lie, as is nearly everything else they claim in their FAKE news. The same leftist media who claimed Comey should resign for being incompetent and changed their mind when he was fired? You are a more articulate shill, but a shill nonetheless. Intentional or otherwise.
-The wise argue that there are few absolutes, the fool argues that there are no probabilities.
Just think of what would have happened with Hillary being elected.
Just think, we could have had a President who didn't claim to invent a decades-old idiom, a President who didn't appoint a racist to head the DOJ, a President who didn't fly on expensive trips for golf outings at personally owned resorts, a President who didn't boast of a wasteful attack with Cruise missiles over dinner, a President who didn't issue bogus executive orders then denounce judges for holding her accountable. A President who didn't have a spokesman try to sell cheap jewelry after resenting how companies dropped the product. A president who could maintain a coherent train of thought through an entire paragraph. A President who didn't concoct a stunt to hide all of their overseas foreign businesses.
Just keep digging, because all the bullshit you're spouting only makes you look bad. It was that Trump is terrible, and the GOP went along with it. And few of them were ready once they had the consequences of it thrust upon them. Notice the lack of actual work being done. Even Trumpcare, they admitted not reading, and not expecting it to become law, for it to be a stunt.
Nice Mashiki, nice.
Much as we love to see the veiw from Reverse World, I think it's a bit much to expect to be modded up. It's no longer Funny, and it's certainly never been Insightful. What puzzles me is, why you people are even on this site, (assuming right-wing Anonymous Coward is more than one person). In other words, why would a person whose worldview is anti-science, anti-evidence, and anti-progress be hanging out on a science news site? Just to troll? That would be pretty pathetic. You spew racial epithets like a child who's just learned a new word that offends grown-ups. What do you get out of that, I wonder. I do hope you're not an adult.
-- sudon't
Air-ride Equipped
You are the distraction.
Wow, we found another town's idiot. Your statement is just so ignorant. Question is, will your response be stupid. Ignorance can be fixed, stupidity is forever.
That only shows that the glorious Soviet news were ahead of its times!
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.