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Researchers Find Dozens of Genes Associated With Measures of Intelligence (arstechnica.com)

An anonymous reader quotes a report from Ars Technica: We don't know a lot about the biological basis of our mental abilities -- we can't even consistently agree on how best to test them -- but a few things seem clear. One is that performance on a number of standardized tests that purport to measure intelligence tends to correlate with outcomes we'd associate with intelligence, like educational achievement. A second is that this performance seems to have a large genetic component. But initial studies clearly indicated that the effect of any individual gene on intelligence is small. As a result, the first genetics studies found very little, since you needed to look at a large number of people in order to see these small effects. Now, a new study has combined much of the previous work and has turned up 40 new genetic regions associated with intelligence test scores. But again, the effect of any individual gene is pretty minor. The team behind the new work took advantage of open data to pull together information from 13 different studies, which cumulatively looked through the genomes of over 78,000 individuals. While those individuals had been given a variety of tests, the authors focused on measures of general intelligence or fluid intelligence (the two seem to measure similar things). The genomes of these individuals had been scanned for single base pair differences, allowing the authors to look for correlations between regions of the genome and test scores. Two separate analyses were done. The first simply looked at each base difference individually. That turned up 336 individual bases, which clustered into 22 different genes. Half of these had not been associated with intelligence previously. To provide a separate validation of these results, the authors did a similar analysis with educational achievement. They found that nearly all of the sites they identified also correlated with that. In a second analysis, the authors tracked base differences that cluster in a single gene. Since there are more markers for each gene, this tends to be a more sensitive way of looking for effects. And in fact, it produced 47 genes associated with the intelligence test scores. Seventeen of those had been identified in the earlier analysis, which brought the total genes identified to 52, only 12 of which had been previously associated with intelligence test scores.

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  1. didn't you get the memo by Swampash · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You're not allowed to talk about the possibility of there being a genetic basis for variations in intelligence. Because some genes are more common in certain ethnic groups than others, and then all hell will break loose and you'll get Bellcurved.

    1. Re: didn't you get the memo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Top scientists who want to keep their jobs at universities agree: evolution stops at the neck.

    2. Re:didn't you get the memo by avandesande · · Score: 2

      It's more about being domesticated. Why would humans be exempt from this phenomena?
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Domesticated_Red_Fox

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    3. Re:didn't you get the memo by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 5, Interesting

      statistical evidence that certain ethnic groups display on average higher intelligence than others (such as whites as compared to blacks).

      IQ is not the same as intelligence, although it is almost certainly highly correlated.
      Whites are not on top. Both Jews and East Asians score higher on average.
      In America, blacks have mean IQ scores about 0.7 SD, or about 10 points, lower than whites.
      Black children have, on average, twice the blood lead levels of white children.
      The first large scale IQ testing in America was of recruits during the First World War, in 1917.
      In those 1917 tests, the average score was 15 points below today's average.
      A century ago, there was a 15 point gap in IQ scores between Protestant and Catholics in Ireland.
      Today there is no gap.

      So is the "IQ gap" caused by genetics? Maybe, but similar gaps in the past were not.

    4. Re:didn't you get the memo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      There is also a long ugly history of even scientists ignoring scientific findings that are socially unacceptable.

      Different mean and standard deviation of intelligence found in groups of people defined through genetic locus controlling for education, culture, diet, and socioeconomic status is one of them.

      The person that can prove four decades of scientific evidence wrong will be quite famous. Until then, everyone tries very hard to ignore the evidence and pretend it doesn't exist, as this paper did.

    5. Re:didn't you get the memo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      While that is true, it does not mean that there is no genetic basis for differences in intelligence.

      Questioning motives in order to shut down discussion that is uncomfortable to some prevents society from accepting reality. Most of the technological progress we have today resulted from the efforts of those many would consider questionable under various ideologies and belief systems.

      Politeness is just a form of white lying, really, and it should not be considered when trying to determine truth. There are plenty of self righteous scientists who'd disagree, but they're just trying to virtue signal their insecurities away. The truth does not care about feelings. It is what it is.

    6. Re:didn't you get the memo by Michael+Woodhams · · Score: 4, Insightful

      One issue is comparing heritability within a group with differences between groups.

      The old argument goes something like this. Within middle class white Americans, IQ is highly heritable. Black Americans and new immigrants from Eastern Europe (this is around 1910 when there were many such immigrants) score much worse than middle class white Americans on IQ tests. Because IQ is heritable, the Blacks and Eastern Europeans must be genetically inferior.

      There are (at least) two major problems with this line of reasoning. One is that the tests had a cultural bias. This can be as simple as people with English as a second language not understanding the instructions, or just lack of familiarity with the types of questions being asked. Another is neglecting the contribution of environment: the testees may in fact be less intelligent, but because of impoverished childhood rather than inferior genes.

      A good example of this second point is height. Height is more heritable than IQ, but is also affected by childhood nutrition. As a people become affluent, average height increases, even though the genes are not changing.

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    7. Re:didn't you get the memo by piojo · · Score: 5, Interesting

      That doesn't seem like a good enough reason to put the kibosh on the study of intelligence. The racial angle is weak. Everyone that matters knows racial differences are small. But what we have to gain by learning about intelligence is huge. We can learn about learning disorders. We can try to ameliorate the damage of dementia. Granted that this also opens up a can of worms regarding what interventions are ethical, but that's not a racial issue.

      The fact that something could--if you bend over backwards by ignoring the actual numbers--be used to promote racism shouldn't be a reason not to discuss it candidly when the context is bettering everybody's lives.

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    8. Re:didn't you get the memo by Jzanu · · Score: 5, Insightful

      But Jewish populations are genetically distinct, even between small sub-groups. As a whole they are farther from European clusters than many African, and of course are more closely related to Arabs from genetic drift measurements. Races are artificial and are scientifically meaningless; genetics is reality.

    9. Re:didn't you get the memo by Gravis+Zero · · Score: 3, Informative

      You're not allowed to talk about the possibility of there being a genetic basis for variations in intelligence.

      The real problem here is that this is no absolute definition for intelligence because it's a quality. There is a lot of neuroscience that needs to be done before we should even broach the issue of genetic associations because "intelligence tests" are no more than crude attempts to quantify this quality that we cannot define.

      And remember, correlation does not imply causation.

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    10. Re:didn't you get the memo by Maxo-Texas · · Score: 2

      That's not really the issue.

      The issue is racists have used psuedo science too many times to justify unequal treatment under the law, unequal treatment in schooling and even eugenics (more than once too).

      Good solid science will be helpful. But racists using bad science to justify for horrific evil behavior means we have to use caution going forward.

      I *agree* that the far left often suppresses free speech but that is partially due to decades of bad behavior in the past around pseudo science by racists.

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    11. Re:didn't you get the memo by jellomizer · · Score: 4, Interesting

      However showing that there are dozen of genes. It would make sense racial factors would be a minor aspect. Also many of our racial distinctions have less to do about genetics and more about culture.
      Intelligence is complex, while we may measure it in terms of IQ but there are many variations of it and a lot of it is also based environment.
      You could have genes that would make you the strongest person in the world, but you never exercised so they are genetically inferior people who are stronger than you because they maximize their potential while you didn't. The same with intelagance you can have the won the genetic lottery in terms of intelligence. But you may not have worked it out, so if you take that IQ test your score wouldn't reflect your full potential.
       

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    12. Re: didn't you get the memo by Opportunist · · Score: 2

      I'm more uncomfortable with the stupidity of some groups. But usually they're not ethnic, they're more a matter of association.

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    13. Re:didn't you get the memo by agm · · Score: 4, Informative

      Charles Murray knows this all too well. He's been treated very poorly because of the controversial nature of his research. And from what I can tell he was meticulous in collecting and processing the data that lead him to the conclusion that intelligence has genetic factors. It would be a fluke for anything that has genetic factors to not express some divergence across populations. If your parents are tall there's a higher chance you will be tall. If your ethnicity is known for having dark hair the high chances are your hair will be dark. Similarly with IQ. Murray sought the data, came to this obvious conclusion and has been castigated for it for many years by SJWs who can't handle the truth.

    14. Re:didn't you get the memo by Kiuas · · Score: 3, Insightful

      There are (at least) two major problems with this line of reasoning. One is that the tests had a cultural bias. This can be as simple as people with English as a second language not understanding the instructions, or just lack of familiarity with the types of questions being asked. Another is neglecting the contribution of environment: the testees may in fact be less intelligent, but because of impoverished childhood rather than inferior genes.

      A good example of this second point is height. Height is more heritable than IQ, but is also affected by childhood nutrition. As a people become affluent, average height increases, even though the genes are not changing.

      Excellent points. The same topic came up towards the end of a recent podcast of Sam Harris (link, the discussion about IQ starts sometime after the 1 hour 30 minute mark) which had as a guest the cancer physician and researcher. Siddhartha Mukherjee. The point made by Mukherjee is that available evidence suggests that IQ is heritable but not inherited. So genetic factors certainly play into shaping an individuals IQ, but it doesn't mean the offspring of someone with high or really high IQ will inherit that trait.

      And even if it turns out that genes account for 100 % of IQ variation that still does not eliminate the role of the environment and upbringing on how those genes (and hence, IQ) are expressed:

      Unfortunately there is frequent confusion about the meaning of heritability. The most frequent misunderstanding is the purpose of twin studies. Heritability estimates are about understanding sources of similarities and differences in traits between members of a particular population. The results apply only to that population. The purpose is not to determine how much any particular individual’s traits are due to his or her genes or his or her environment. Behavioral geneticists are well aware that all of our traits develop through a combination of both nature and nurture. Heritability estimates are about explaining differences among people, not explaining individual development. The question on the table for them is this: In a particular population of individuals, what factors make those individuals the same as each other, and which factors make them different?

      Therefore, twin studies aren’t designed to investigate human development. In recent years developmental psychologists, including L. Todd Rose, Kurt Fischer, Peter Molenaar, and Cynthia Campbell, have been developing exciting new techniques to study intraindividual variation. 12 Intraindividual variation focuses on a single person and looks at how an integrated dynamic system of behavioral, emotional, cognitive, and other psychological processes change across time and situations. New intraindividual techniques allow researchers to focus on a single twin pair and see how nature and nurture interact in nonlinear ways to explain both their similarities and their differences. 13 Both levels of analysis— twin studies and developmental analysis— are informative, but the results from the one do not apply to the other. 14

      Many people also confuse heritability with immutability. They hear the word “heritable” and immediately think of “genes,” which then conjures up pictures of a fixed trait that can’t be altered by external forces. In contrast, many people hear the word “environment” and breathe a sigh of relief, thinking the trait is easily modifiable. This requires quite a strong faith in social engineering!

      Just because a trait is heritable (and virtually all of our psychological traits are heritable) doesn’t necessarily mean that the trait is fixed or can’t be developed. Virtually all of our traits are substantially genetically influenced and are influenced by environm

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    15. Re:didn't you get the memo by meta-monkey · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I would say the problem we encounter today is leftists suppressing science to justify horrific evil behavior, so we need an honest evaluation of the truth going forward.

      It goes something like this. Assume there are no genetic differences in intellectual ability between people of recent European and African descent. Notice there is a difference in group average outcomes (income, test scores, job placement, etc) in the United States between people of recent European and African descent. Since you've already established (without proof, and contrary to empirical evidence as well as basic understanding of evouationary biology) that there is no difference in these populations' average natural ability, the difference in outcomes must be because of racism on the part of the European-Americans against the African-Americans. This justifies hatred and resentment against the European-Americans, and the use of government force to extract resources from the European-Americans or enforcement of different behavioral standards to "correct" their oppressive misdeeds. Naturally this will also be profitable for the people pushing this narrative.

      If it turns out that no, in fact the reason for the difference in outcomes are largely genetic, then the entire justification for the redistribution and vilification falls apart. This is very bad for the left, so they have to forcibly shut down anyone who tells the truth about genetic differences between human haplogroups, insisting they are not just wrong, but also evil. This all ends very poorly.

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    16. Re:didn't you get the memo by Maxo-Texas · · Score: 2

      Yes, it must be racism because blacks from european cultures and later immigrants from african countries do much better than descendents of blacks descended from slaves and blacks in southern states.

      One of the largest problems with assistance based purely on race is that it means well connected wealthy blacks get extra money while poor blacks (and other minorities and whites) do not get extra money.

      Assistance should be based on economic status- not the color of a person's skin.

      And many awards have come to recognize that difference over time. The private school educated black daughter of a black doctor doesn't get the assistance as easily as they did with more primitive programs in the 1970s.

      Your entire post just reeks of racism and begs exactly the point I was making above. Racists (as you appear to be) argue for changes RIGHT NOW cutting benefits for minorities based on an insufficient and biased set of data and on culturally biased and primitive "intelligence" tests.

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    17. Re:didn't you get the memo by meta-monkey · · Score: 2, Informative

      Yes, it must be racism because blacks from european cultures and later immigrants from african countries do much better than descendents of blacks descended from slaves and blacks in southern states.

      Think there might be some self-selection going on there? That is, only the wealthier, and therefore likely more intelligent blacks from Africa and Europe are able to immigrate to the US these days?

      Your entire post just reeks of racism and begs exactly the point I was making above. Racists (as you appear to be) argue for changes RIGHT NOW cutting benefits for minorities based on an insufficient and biased set of data and on culturally biased and primitive "intelligence" tests.

      Except the data is not insufficient, and the tests are not biased. You are not the first person to suggest this, so researchers have gone to great lengths to make and administer unbiased tests.

      Science is a real thing. Genetics are real things. Evolutionary biology is a real thing.

      Intelligence correlates with income. In the US, blacks have the lowest average IQ and median income, then hispanics, then whites, then asians, then Jews. If whites are practicing evil white supremacy, they're fucking awful it, because they forgot to oppress the asians and the Jews. Either that, or are the Jews oppressing everyone, but in unequal ways? Really, how do you explain how the Jews and asians are doing better than the whites?

      What race pimps (as you appear to be) do is foment racial hatred for your own political power.

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    18. Re: didn't you get the memo by ooloorie · · Score: 2

      Are you kidding? Progressives and the American left have been the primary proponents of government treating people differently based on race. Segregation and anti miscegenation laws were progressive policies supposedly intended to help everybody. Today, affirmative action and racial quotas are again favorites of the left.

      With the left, it's always good intentions and lousy outcomes.

    19. Re:didn't you get the memo by Orgasmatron · · Score: 3, Informative

      If only we had some data on identical twins adopted into different families that would shed light on this mystery.

      Oh, wait...

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  2. p hacking by eis2718bob · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This is a textbook example of p-hacking. Note the plural in "measures of intelligence", along with "educational achievement" as dependent variables. Something was gonna show a correlation, to the vaunted oh point oh five. What a crock.

    882. We don't even need the links for these anymore, just the number.

    1. Re:p hacking by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Yes, because if you look at enough variables, given a truly random set, some portion of the variables are going to appear non-random. P-hacking isn't just twisting knobs to show something, it can also be looking at enough knobs. https://xkcd.com/882/

    2. Re:p hacking by phantomfive · · Score: 4, Interesting

      It's very possible. The effect found by each of these genes was very small, a fraction of an IQ point. At that small size, I would doubt that I had accounted for all confounding variables. Something as simple as hair color might be a confounding factor, and height certainly would be.

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    3. Re:p hacking by Michael+Woodhams · · Score: 2

      It passed peer review in a high quality journal. While this doesn't completely rule out p-hacking, at the very least it means you shouldn't make the accusation without closely reading the paper.

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    4. Re:p hacking by phantomfive · · Score: 2

      The paper is probably false, with a P value < .05. Sad but true.

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    5. Re:p hacking by pesho · · Score: 2

      I don't think so. For their SNP (DNA variant) discovery tests they used 12 cohorts tested, depending on the cohort by 8 different measures of intelligence. The cohorts had mean ages from 6 to 62 years. Then they took the genes associated with the DNA variants they discovered and check correlation with various traits - ranging from waist-to-hip ration, through neurological disorders to educational attainment. The strongest positive correlation is with educational attainment. Top negative correlations are with Alzheimer's, depression and ADHD. So they used did not pick individual measures, they actually used all of them and sourced a broad and diverse cohort of people of European discent. Then they validated their results using and orthogonal test, that did not depend on the variables used for the DNA variant discovery. This is exactly the opposite of p-hacking. Yeah and to comments up in the discussion, the study say nothing about race. They clearly state in their methods that they used individuals of European origin. So these genes are associated with intelligence in Europeans. The genes affecting intelligence in other races and populations may or may not be the same.

    6. Re:p hacking by parkinglot777 · · Score: 4, Informative

      It's very possible. The effect found by each of these genes was very small, a fraction of an IQ point. At that small size, I would doubt that I had accounted for all confounding variables. Something as simple as hair color might be a confounding factor, and height certainly would be.

      However, if you really look at the study, you should see that it has NOTHING to do with the GP accusation. I have no idea why the GP is so negative on the study??? Also, how could the post be insightful??? Abstract below...

      Intelligence is associated with important economic and health-related life outcomes. Despite intelligence having substantial heritability (0.54) and a confirmed polygenic nature, initial genetic studies were mostly underpowered. Here we report a meta-analysis for intelligence of 78,308 individuals. We identify 336 associated SNPs (METAL P < 5 × 10^-8) in 18 genomic loci, of which 15 are new. Around half of the SNPs are located inside a gene, implicating 22 genes, of which 11 are new findings. Gene-based analyses identified an additional 30 genes (MAGMA P < 2.73 × 10^-6), of which all but one had not been implicated previously. We show that the identified genes are predominantly expressed in brain tissue, and pathway analysis indicates the involvement of genes regulating cell development (MAGMA competitive P = 3.5 × 10^-6). Despite the well-known difference in twin-based heratiblity for intelligence in childhood (0.45) and adulthood (0.80), we show substantial genetic correlation (rg = 0.89, LD score regression P = 5.4 × 10^-29). These findings provide new insight into the genetic architecture of intelligence.

      And the title of the study is "Genome-wide association meta-analysis of 78,308 individuals identifies new loci and genes influencing human intelligence" which has nothing to do with the GP accusation (again)...

  3. No time to read the article.... by WolfgangVL · · Score: 2

    I'm off to the feelies. I'm so glad I'm an Alpha.

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  4. For the Mongos among us... by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    When I was born, I was the poster child for mongolism (the proper term in the 1970's) and promptly mentally declared retarded to because I had a speech impediment in kindergarten. You could say I was slow on the uptake. I also had an undiagnosed hearing loss in one ear that wasn't diagnosed until much later. Each year I had the annual evaluation. Each time I scored on the genius side of the scale. Each time the tester noted it was statistical fluke and reconfirmed that I was mentally retarded. That the school got extra funding for having a well behaved idiot in Special Ed classes wasn't a factor. I graduated the eighth grade with a college-level reading comprehension and fifth grade skills in everything else. School officials couldn't explain how that happened and they were also disturbed that my skinny parents had a fat kid. A half-dozen blood tests revealed nothing. No one knows how genes played a role in my intelligence.

  5. Height genes by phantomfive · · Score: 2
    This quote from the article is really interesting:

    “If you try to predict height using the genes we’ve identified in Europeans in Africans, you’d predict all Africans are five inches shorter than Europeans, which isn’t true,” Dr. Posthuma said.

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  6. A few technical comments by Michael+Woodhams · · Score: 5, Informative

    These results are from using SNP chips. To make a SNP chip, a sample of individuals from a population (in this case, humans of European descent) are sequenced, then the sequences are compared to find SNPs (single nucleotide polymorphism: i.e. a place where some individuals have one DNA base and others have a different one.) Then some hundreds of thousands of those SNPs are selected (we want something like an even spread of SNPs over the genome, and we want to chose SNPs which have a fairly high degree of polymorphism - we'd rather something which was 50:50 rather than 99:1.) A SNP chip is designed which when exposed to DNA from an individual will say yes/no for each SNP. (Scanning the paper, I see two of the SNP chips they used were UK BiLEVE Axiom array and the UK Biobank Axiom array which have over 820,000 SNPs each.)

    This has several consequences. One is that the SNP chip is of limited use for populations other than the one for which it was designed. Another is that seldom is the SNP on the chip directly related to the feature/quality (intelligence in this case) that we are trying to correlate with. Rather, the SNP which correlates positively with IQ is probably just nearby the genetic difference which matters. Because they are close, recombination (shuffling of the two genome copies you have, which happens in the production of gametes) is unlikely to separate them. Because they will occasionally get separated, the correlation of IQ with the SNP is going to be a little less strong than the correlation of IQ with the actual variant gene (allele). A SNP chip is less informative than a full genome sequence, but is much cheaper, and much easier to analyse.

    A final point is that genome wide association studies like this have in the past been plagued with false positives. When there are so many variables being tested (hundreds of thousands of SNPs on the SNP chip) some will strongly associate with your measured quality (IQ) by chance. This is even more so if you use sophisticated analyses which look for combinations of SNPs as predictors. I will provisionally accept that they've accounted for this correctly, as I lack the expertise to judge for myself.

    I work in a tangentially associated field (phylogenetics) so my knowledge has some professional basis, but is well short of that of an expert in the field.

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  7. Five Percent is the important number by gurps_npc · · Score: 5, Interesting

    ALL the genes put together had a total of 5% impact on Intelligence. That means an IQ of 105 vs 100. That is a minor effect.

    Worst of all, minor effects like this, are typical of false positives. That is, most scientific tests use a significance threshold of no more than 4%, which is one in 25. That means if you test 25 different random alcoholic drinks, one of them, by random chance, will be shown to cause a minor increase in intelligence. This would be a false positive.)

    And they did over 300 tests. So if they are using a 4% significance, that would be 4*3= 12 false positives.

    This article looks like the worst kind of fake science news. You know, the kind that a President would quote (Pick Trump/Obama, whichever your personal bias thinks would do that).

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    1. Re:Five Percent is the important number by phantomfive · · Score: 2

      Probably not since the average IQ 200 years ago was less than five points below the average today (see the Flynn affect).

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    2. Re:Five Percent is the important number by SLi · · Score: 2

      You cannot calculate with it IQ scores like that. A 50% impact does not mean the difference of 150 to 100, or a 100% impact does not mean 200 to 100. For one thing, while the mean IQ is 100, that in itself means nothing unless you also pick a standard deviation, which is an arbitrary choice. I think 15 is the most commonly used, but by no means only, choice for IQ nowadays. This would mean that a score of 115 is one standard deviation above average, or that 68% of people fall below it, and a score of 130 is two standard deviations above average, corresponding to 95%.

      The 5% impact in this kind of studies always means that the measured variable explains 5% of the total variance. 100% impact would mean that the IQ is directly determined by the measured variables (ie. the identified genetic variants), with randomness or environmental factors playing no role. As a side note, this would still not imply causation; both the intelligence and the genetic variations could be caused by another, unknown factor.

    3. Re:Five Percent is the important number by ooloorie · · Score: 3, Interesting

      ALL the genes put together had a total of 5% impact on Intelligence. That means an IQ of 105 vs 100. That is a minor effect.

      They aren't asking the question of whether IQ has a strong genetic component, that's already known. They are asking which genes might be responsible for the genetic component that we already know exists.

      And they did over 300 tests. So if they are using a 4% significance, that would be 4*3= 12 false positives.

      Why don't you read RTFA? Their p-values are 10^-6 to 10^-8. In addition, they seem to be using software and techniques specifically intended for these kinds of analyses. Now, there could still be plenty of things wrong with their analysis, but your criticism is not valid.

      Furthermore, they are not asking "are there any genes that influence IQ", they are asking "given that we know that IQ has a strong genetic component, which genes might be responsible".

      The fact that they didn't find any strong correlations but a lot of weak correlations is a useful result in itself; you simply seem to misinterpret what the result actually means.

  8. Match against questions! by SharpFang · · Score: 3, Interesting

    IQ test is an aggregate, a lot of questions testing different aspects of logical thinking and pattern spotting. Trying to find a single gene for IQ is a bit like trying to find which single screw makes a car engine work.

    Instead, try correlating the genes against results from distinct questions from the IQ test. That way you can get genes responsible for specific aspects of IQ. Otherwise... found any singular gene that makes people perform well at chess-boxing?

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    1. Re:Match against questions! by SLi · · Score: 4, Insightful

      This "theory of multiple intelligences" is a quite popular narrative, but it's not empirically supported by studies. Rather, it seems that there is one "g factor", or general cognitive ability, that tends to explain quite well the "different kinds of intelligence". That is, any IQ test seems to be a good predictor of performance in any other IQ test, whether testing logical-mathematical, linguistic, spatial or some other "kind" of intelligence.

  9. Iodine is the US gap by mveloso · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Apparently iodine is the reason people today are marginally more intelligent than the were before.

    http://blogs.discovermagazine....

    That doesn't mean that genetics doesn't make a difference.

  10. Intelligence isn't everything by clickety6 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I sometimes think it would be more useful to discover the genes for common sense because I know quite a few highly-intelligent people who could do with having a bit more of it.

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  11. It doesn't even matter if intelligence is genetic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    There are certainly genetic components that contribute to intelligence. But you know what? It almost doesn't matter.

    Fact is: the average IQ of a black African is around 70. Africa is a disaster, and all the aid from the rest of the world has not helped. A population with an average IQ of 70 cannot maintain a Western infrastructure without help. But we aren't allowed to talk about intelligence as a contributing factor. If we could, we might have different strategies for aid; strategies that might actually work.

    And if it turns out that, after pulling Africa out of its hole, those 30 points of IQ are due to environmental factors, or disease, or education, or whatever? Everybody wins.

    tl;dr: Before we can do anything about the problems in Africa, we have to be able to talk openly about intelligence.

  12. Increase in general IQ by Dareth · · Score: 2

    IQ test were based partially on speed of completion. People a generation or two back started spending larger portions of their lives watching the world go by at 35+ mph. The theory is this led to an increase in speed of cognition led to a small but measurable increase in general IQ scores.

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  13. Odds are... by Dareth · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Odds are the smartest person in the whole world is illiterate and wasting many brain cycles while subsistence farming.

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    I only look human.
    My mother is a halfling and my dad is an ogre, so that makes me an Ogreling
  14. Get Ready for Science Denial... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    ...Ironically from the SJW folks.