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China To Implement Cyber Security Law From Thursday (reuters.com)

China, battling increased threats from cyber-terrorism and hacking, will adopt from Thursday a controversial law that mandates strict data surveillance and storage for firms working in the country, the official Xinhua news agency said. From a report: The law, passed in November by the country's largely rubber-stamp parliament, bans online service providers from collecting and selling users' personal information, and gives users the right to have their information deleted, in cases of abuse. "Those who violate the provisions and infringe on personal information will face hefty fines," the news agency said on Monday, without elaborating.

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  1. Re: "the right to have their information deleted" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    You know it. It's like when Facebook says it can take up to two weeks to delete a profile. Of course, so they can go through all your stuff to make sure you're not hiding and get an archived copy to pass around.

  2. Enforcement by jader3rd · · Score: 2

    I wonder how they're going to enforce that.

    1. Re: Enforcement by guruevi · · Score: 4, Insightful

      China has a very easy way: play ball or don't do business here. They understand that whatever you're offering, someone else is more than willing to fill the gap, there is no such thing as a company they can't survive without.

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    2. Re: Enforcement by jader3rd · · Score: 1

      China has a very easy way: play ball or don't do business here.

      Obviously. I was wondering how China would gather evidence about companies complying. Will the government enforce daily scans of every companies entire data store?

    3. Re: Enforcement by guruevi · · Score: 1

      No need, the Chinese governments has enough informants. They gave up to $70k cash to citizens that inform the government about US spying within their country and in a few years they got 20 CIA operatives killed.

      It's also clearly evident when someone is spying on you and selling data online, this sort of thing would effectively remove any targeted advertising in China, and without targeted advertising, the data is worthless.

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  3. Mainly it sounds GREAT by charliemerritt03 · · Score: 2

    Sounds like a law the West could use.

  4. Boo China by frovingslosh · · Score: 1

    Not only is China repressive freedom hating country that tramples on basic human rights, but they have stolen our government's ideas too!

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  5. whaaaa by XSportSeeker · · Score: 4, Insightful

    China treating privacy with more respect than most western countries... what a time to be alive

    1. Re:whaaaa by bursch-X · · Score: 3, Informative

      You've got it wrong. China demands others to treat users with more respect, while at the same time the government is taking a shit on your hard drive. And has basically access to everything anyone does on the net in China. They just don't want to share with others.

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  6. Re:How is this controversial? by Calydor · · Score: 1

    You say that like only communist governments consider themselves above the law.

    Which is worse: Being able to delete your information BUT the government keeps a copy, or being unable to delete your information AND the government keeps a copy?

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  7. They want the exclusive right by bursch-X · · Score: 1

    Only China wants the right to keep, search and filter your data. It's their preciousss.

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  8. Re:How is this controversial? by dszd0g · · Score: 1

    So true. In the US right now we have no privacy from private companies or the government. It's mostly illegal for the government to spy on us, but they keep getting caught doing it anyways with no punishment for anyone involved.

    Now, in China it will be illegal for private companies to spy on people, although they will probably do it anyways. The government spies on people, but they don't hide that fact at all.

    Which is better?

    What is going to happen to popular spyware products in China? Windows 10, Android, Chrome, Smart TVs, etc.? Google.com and Facebook are blocked in China I believe, so those are non-issues. My guess is business as usual, although the government will probably throw some fines at American tech companies and it won't change anything.

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  9. Re:trump trump trump trump by jandersen · · Score: 1

    how can we spin this to make trump look bad?

    There is hardly any need to do that, since he is doing it so well. Seriously, hearing him in a public speech, saying '...no president in history has been as badly as me...' had me in stitches. I didn't know whether to laugh or cry - and this is supposedly the leader of the free world? What did he expect - that people would line the streets, waving palm-fronds and singing 'hosannah' wherever he went? Compare to other political leaders - Obama was reviled in obscene ways by the right-wing outlets in America, and took it with dignity. It happens to everybody in exposed postions, especially when they are politicians who pursue controversial policies, and you simply have to be tough enough to take it on the chin. But this guy is simply a whimp.

  10. personal data + analytics = power by sidetrack · · Score: 2

    In the West, whoever can afford to buy your data and sufficient analytics and brains/AI to watch the campaign feedback are probably the next government.

    The Chinese government have realised this, and are trying to make sure that data isn't available (commercially) for their individual citizens. They see it as a significant risk to their establishment I'd guess. I hope the EU countries pass similar laws.

    1. Re:personal data + analytics = power by sidetrack · · Score: 1

      ... otherwise it'll be the effective end of their democracies and government by the rich and powerful (who will make sure that the majority of the public believe the opposite is what's actually happened).

  11. China deserves +1 insightful by TimothyHollins · · Score: 1

    So China implemented the law that Trump so recently repealed? Sounds like China is the place to be for next 4 years.

    Now where did I put my smokediver suit...

  12. Re:trump trump trump trump by gtall · · Score: 1

    Wimp? Gee, what gave it away, that he weenied out to the Saudis or is ceding the Pacific basin to the Chinese?

    Hi modus operandi (to put lipstick on a pig) is to loudly proclaim just about any good thing is about to happen through his auspices. When one or two of them do (out of sheer happenstance) he takes credit. All the rest of his waffle is forgotten because when you shovel as much as he does, no one can be arsed to keep track of it all.

    I like the report in the Wash. Post where they say he likes his security briefings with large glossy photos so he need not read any time consuming complicated features of an issue. He doesn't have an attention span or the brains to grok it. He's just an ignorant git with an out-sized ego.

  13. something better by jbmartin6 · · Score: 1

    TFA is very vague, This might be better for anyone who is interested. The law applies mainly apply to ISPs and online service providers like the summary says. It doesn't sound much different to me than what Europe has, please correct me if I am wrong on that.

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  14. Still haven't learned from history by poofmeisterp · · Score: 1

    (see subject of this post)
    The harder they try, the harder they'll fail. History repeats itself and will continue to do so ad infinitum.