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Trump Is Pulling US Out of Paris Climate Deal: Sources (axios.com)
An anonymous reader shares a report: President Trump has made his decision to withdraw from the Paris climate accord, according to two sources with direct knowledge of the decision. Details on how the withdrawal will be executed are being worked out by a small team including EPA Administrator Scott Pruitt. They're deciding on whether to initiate a full, formal withdrawal -- which could take 3 years -- or exit the underlying United Nations climate change treaty, which would be faster but more extreme. Pulling out of Paris is the biggest thing Trump could do to unravel Obama's climate legacy. It sends a combative signal to the rest of the world that America doesn't prioritize climate change and threatens to unravel the ambition of the entire deal. News agency Reuters has corroborated the report with its own source. Further reading on Politico (which has also corroborated the news) and BBC. Update: Trump Announces US Withdrawal From Paris Climate Accord.
Climate change politics are increasingly about wealth redistribution.
Truer words were never said, particularly by someone with so little grasp of the truth.
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Now, finally and at last - we can begin to set our standards as high as Syria and Nicaragua!
I can't wait for the good 'ol USA to start living the good life like those guys. Makes you proud.
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rediculous.
While the rest of the developed world and most of the developing world moves on, America will be willingly leaving itself in the dust. We are actively ceding our leadership in the world in many aspects. In a generation we will be playing second or third fiddle to the next super powers. China is high on the list as the next super power. They are where America was 60-70 years ago. Before we became complacent, greedy, unable to solve problems, partisan, and risk adverse to an absurd degree. It's not just about Climate Change. It's about global leadership.
Trump has really highlighted how much power/influence we choose to give to a single person. It amazes me that a president can unilaterally enter into or exit from agreements of this magnitude. If he has any positive legacy, I hope it's a legacy where we decided to further limit the power of the presidency.
If we were to write a book for children of good vs. evil, it would be hard to cast Trump as the "good guy". Even if he were cast as the "bad guy", he makes decisions that seem so clearly wrong that it would be rejected as too cliche.
Nuclear power is orders of magnitude safer than coal. 60 deaths per TWh for coal power worldwide avg, vs 0.04 deaths per TWh for nuclear, so a factor of 1500 better.
I'm sure the Chinese are thrilled to be leading the rest of the world as the US withdraws into isolation.
The left have been calling for his impeachment or assassination since before his inauguration. Their reasoning appears to be, "I don't agree with him so he should be impeached or assassinated". Modern leftists genuinely can't handle the fact that different people have different views, and when somebody voices an alternative view they fly into fits of rage and call for violence.
Few people still think he'll finish four years
Yes, few people in your echo chamber. If you dare to venture outside your safe space you'll find that other people think he's doing a great job.
your ignorance is frightening
I don't think it's fair to call Trump a liberal. Sure, he's not a conservative, and he's a big fan of Soviet-style planned economics, but that doesn't mean he's a liberal. Sometimes a drama queen is labeled simply because they're nuts. Are you sure that's not what's going on here?
Pulling out of the climate agreement unfortunately makes me think of this cartoon: https://climatesanity.files.wo...
Because Chernobyl or Fukushima Daiichi never happened, right? Marcoule in France, or the recent blast in Flamaville station?
And that's just a few of the accidents out of a long list of accidents on nuclear facilities, don't get me started on leaks incidents in waste storage facilities...
Because coal/oil/gas plants never explode and any associated spillage is fine right? How many millions of barrels of oil are dumped in the sea through carelessness or accident again? How much extra co2 is in the air trapping extra heat in the atmosphere? Nope, totally no polluting at all and let's all run away from big bad nuclear, ohhh its so scary I'll run and hide in my filth where it's safer.
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Trump might get that trade war after all as Europe and other like-minded trading blocs impose import tariffs.
I certainly hope Europe is able to take the mantle of leader of the free world while the US gets its act back together. I am a proud American, but I'm a human first. My country is the second largest polluter in the world, and the largest per capita. I hope more sensible countries around the world band together to show the more ignorant members of my country we cannot get away with it forever. Tariffs or sanctions against the U.S. for its inaction would be a good start.
-- All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. -- Edmund Burke
This is hardly a surprise. Everyone in the business sector was banking on this. Trump basically is doing anything pro-buisness and pro-Russia at the expense of literally everything/everyone else. Any claims he has that security is a primary concern of his is complete whitewash. Germany called him out on lack of environmental concerns and he basically Twittered "the Germans should mind their own business..or else". Thing of it is, it's EVERYBODY'S business. The German Chancellor has said EU has said they cannot rely on the USA to play a leadership role and the EU will have to step up. Trump is alienating all our allies, and getting cozy with historically hostile foreign powers. This should be concerning to all of us.
"Imagination is more important than knowledge" - Einstein
Everything you mention is driven by Anonymous Sources. Like ACs on Slashdot, you can't trust them, you don't know if they are real or not, and they are usually wrong.
The White House is leaking like a sieve, yet no evidence of any criminal activities or even generic "wrong doing" has emerged. I would think that if people wanted him out so desperately and they had the goods they would have provided the evidence by now.
Hell, they can't even articulate what crimes may have been committed. All they can do is throw out vague, over the top accusations.
Evidence...where is it?
When Fascism comes to America, it will call itself Anti-Fascism, and tell you to give up your guns.
The ONLY 'Constitutional Crisis' has been over the travel restrictions. That is only a crisis because of activist judges. Judges who in even recent times would have been hound (rightly so) from the bench for even suggesting that the President's personal prejudices should have any bearing whatsoever on the plain meaning of the law.
Literally its the left and their sympathizers that are seeking to undermine the very concept of codified law simply because they disagree with the agenda. Once every law is flat and subject to the whim of the mob, there will be nothing and nobody left to protect any of the few freedoms us CITIZENS let alone anyone else still enjoy.
At not time in modern history has there been such a vicious effort to undermine and remove a lawfully elected sitting president. The people behind it are human garbage who hate America and hate real freedom, even if you don't like Trump and don't support his policy. The mob that is going along with it are useful idiots.
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A tax of about 40% or 50% on imports of US goods to other countries which are still in the Paris agreement, reflecting the apparent IQ difference of the countries' leadership, as evidenced by this dumbass decision.
Where are we going and why are we in a handbasket?
You're the type that sees a pile of garbage on the street and throws your empty cup there instead of walking 50ft to the empty garbage can aren't you?
Obstruction of justice is a crime that has been committed.
Trump publically admitted to that one when he said he fired Comey over the russian investigation. Regardless of if there was any collusion or not Trump knew his administration was under investigation by Comey and fired him. That is obstruction of justice. He even double down on it when he revealed to the russians that he had made his life easier by firing Comey to end the investigation.
Trump has also definitely violated the Emoluments clause and could be impeached for that.
I don't know if his campaign colluded with Russia during the election and that is still being investigated.
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Who the fuck modded this up.
Yes, like when the POTUS wins the election because of influence from a foreign nation.
But despite all that Saudi money, Hillary lost?
Or when the POTUS profits financially from money spent by foreign nations in his properties.
How do you profit on something you've donated entirely to the US Treasury?
Or when the POTUS fires the FBI chief who was tasked with investigating what he did that is widely believed to be in violation of the constitution.
FBI Director serves at the pleasure of the president, so I don't see how that's a constitutional crisis...
Or when the POTUS gives away secret information to a foreign power.
The president can declassify whatever information he wants. Telling a foreign nation we'd like better relations with "hey, terrorists are trying to blow up your passenger aircraft with laptop bombs" seems like a perfectly reasonable thing to do. Also, remember Russia warned us about the Tsarnaev brothers before the Boston bombing...if only Obama had listened. Still, seems nice to return the favor and keep those lines of communication open, doesn't it?
Those are all constitutional crises, and given his track record we'll see another one by the end of next week at the very latest.
These are only constitutional crises in your mind, driven by delusion and (heavily, heavily) motivated reasoning. Trump will not be impeached as he's committed no high crime or misdemeanors, and will not resign, and you will continue your descent into madness.
We don't have a state-run media we have a media-run state.
I certainly hope Europe is able to take the mantle of leader of the free world while the US gets its act back together. I am a proud American, but I'm a human first. My country is the second largest polluter in the world, and the largest per capita. I hope more sensible countries around the world band together to show the more ignorant members of my country we cannot get away with it forever. Tariffs or sanctions against the U.S. for its inaction would be a good start.
List of the top 5 polluters by CO2 emissions:
1) China
2) USA
3) European Union
4) India
5) Russia
Here's your real problem. Note that 3 of the so-called BRICS nations are number 1, 4 and 5 on that list. Of those 3 nations on the list, only China really cares any about the environment and even then it's not much. None of them are ever going to really reduce their emissions if there is any chance it could hurt economic development. Even if the US did play along, China, India, Russia and others won't. They'll give lip service to the agreement, but they'll never actually implement enough to make a big difference.
Some of the worst arguments I see on here are that China causes more carbon emissions. Sure imagine you're stranded on a boat with 10 other people and wearing a red shirt while everyone has a blue shirt. You're eating 5 times the amount of rations but arguing that you shouldn't cut back because "blue" is already eating more. This is why emissions per capita matters. Carbon emissions are directly related to food production and general economic wealth of a nation. As a resident of a well off nation, it stands to hurt us the least to cut back a little. The only way China can cut back is to effectively downgrade their economics so badly that it will probably start killing people.
So yeah, wealth redistribution it is, but folks forget that we're already doing that. There are far far more poorer folks out there worldwide and when nature inevitably bites back due to climate change it will hit the poor much harder but we share the same planet. Expect more environmental refugees and don't be surprised if folks start fighting more. After all if you're staving to death because you don't have water or food or a way of living, blowing up your neighbour who seems to have everything, deserved or not seems like a good option.
It's why we should pro-actively try to fix this even if it seems hopeless, letting it go to the latter doesn't sound like fun at all.
We also produce half of the inventions that make life better and longer. Perhaps we would all be better off if the rest of the world was more like us, not the other way around.
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Taxation, on the other hand, is the government coming and taking money from you, and you not getting anything in return.
Sure, if the money just stopped in the government's hands, but what about this trillion dollar deficit government leads you to believe they won't spend it? And what you get back is roads, schools, a military, all the things that make commerce efficient and safe! I can't tell if this is supposed to be an argument towards anarchy or total ignorance of the fact that the american government is a GIANT part of the economy. About the only thing they could do to "take the money out of the economy" would be to pay off our debt. But unless you are suggesting that we should never do that, I don't see an eventual way around that one.
Assuming that the money is 100% redistributed to people, they can do less with the money because economic activity has fallen. Nothing good comes out of this.
What? Are you experiencing some kind of fever dream where you type? Assuming that 4 trillion dollars were handed out to to populace at large, there would be the same effect as we see from income tax rebate time. Want to know how much that stimulates the economy, stop by a gamestop and ask any manager what kind of massive sales increase they see. Now multiply that by 10,000. Short term, if such a reckless plan were enacted, you would see massive inflation, but only due to supply, and that is precisely why the government would likely find a more responsible way of using the money. Like our crumbling roads that business drive their goods on, or huge investment in good paying green energy which will require massive hiring.
Honestly, you talk like nobody in the world even remotely asked anyone who knows anything about economics before proposing a carbon tax. We have these nifty guys called economists, and they have these fancy things called PHDs. In fact, other countries have them too! I am sure at least a few were consulted and didn't come up with the "this does nothing" claim that you seem to have arrived at.
But hey, Trump University might teach a different take on it.
Actually, it's an oligopoly.