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Putin Now Argues Russia Could've Been Framed For Election Meddling By The CIA (nbcnews.com)
In a news magazine show premiering tonight, Megyn Kelly reports that Russian president Vladimir Putin "has denied Russian involvement in the hacking and interference with our U.S. presidential eletion for some time. That changed earlier this week, and the story appears to be evolving yet again." An anonymous reader shared two articles from NBC:
"Hackers can be anywhere. They can be in Russia, in Asia...even in America, Latin America," he said. "They can even be hackers, by the way, in the United States who very skillfully and professionally shifted the blame, as we say, onto Russia. Can you imagine something like that? In the midst of a political battle...?" The journalist asked the Russian president about what American intelligence agencies say is evidence that he became personally involved in a covert campaign to harm Hillary Clinton and benefit Donald Trump. "IP addresses can be invented -- a child can do that! Your underage daughter could do that. That is not proof," Putin replied...
Kelly told viewers that Putin -- the former director of Russia's domestic spy agency -- also suggested that the CIA could have been behind the hacking and noted that many people were convinced Russia was responsible for the assassination of President John F. Kennedy... Earlier, at a Friday forum moderated by Kelly, Putin likened the U.S. blaming his country for hacking the presidential election to "blaming the Jews"...
"Echoing remarks President Donald Trump made on the campaign trail, Putin also questioned the need for NATO."
Kelly told viewers that Putin -- the former director of Russia's domestic spy agency -- also suggested that the CIA could have been behind the hacking and noted that many people were convinced Russia was responsible for the assassination of President John F. Kennedy... Earlier, at a Friday forum moderated by Kelly, Putin likened the U.S. blaming his country for hacking the presidential election to "blaming the Jews"...
"Echoing remarks President Donald Trump made on the campaign trail, Putin also questioned the need for NATO."
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Any timeline of these events should probably start with this book. So far things are proceeding as planned, and ultimate success seems likely.
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I'm going to assume he's talking about spoofing, or the technique of inserting a packet stream into the internet and making it appear like it's come from somewhere else.
This is in fact easily done if what you're attempting to do is DDOS a system. Doing it in such a way as to hack a system is NOT childsplay.
Here's one problem. You're typically (in the childs play scenario. State actor level games are NOT child's play) transmitting in the blind. TCP requires a three-way handshake. Assuming no one involved in the internet today is dumb enough to allow source routing packets, and that everyone is using decent random number generators for their sequence numbers, you can't see the SYN/ACK response from the host (since that'll have gone to the IP you're impersonating)
Add in ANY type of cryptography and you're totally hosed, as even the oldest version of SSL required you to exchange secrets, and since you're transmitting in the blind you won't see the response secret and it's game over.
There was a time when it was possible, because TCP sequence numbers were guessable due to poor randomness in a number of TCP stacks. You could make an intelligence guess as to what the next sequence number would be and send some bracketing packets in the hopes of getting lucky (more likely on a slow system then on a busy one).
And if you take your waybackmachine to the 90s, you'd find that source routing packets were honoured. It's been awhile since I ran into a version of anything that had that turned on by default.
So unless you can get into the ISP that the victim machine is connected to, not happening for any real world situation. And pawning an ISP is decidedly not childs-play.
So I give this claim 4-CRC errors out of 5.
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No, he just knows that WaPo has ties to the CIA, so they should be viewed with similar skepticism as Russia Today.
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I'm sick of naive idiots thinking that US media is above the kind of things that we routinely and accurately suspect from Russia. You have to be a total moron to intrinsically trust them without adequate evidence after they lied us into Iraq. Brian Williams practically jizzed his pants when talking about bombing Syria.
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Hillary needs the country to focus on Russia to keep our attention away from the murder of Seth Rich. That's why every other word out of her mouth is "Russia". If she were clean, she would have already shut up and retired.
The other Democrats need the Russia story to keep Trump's agenda from being passed. If his agenda is passed and the country does well, it's the end of the Democrat Party.
Nobody believes the media anymore. That's why newspapers are struggling and the broadcast media's ratings are in the toilet.
The data was given to the US media by a US insider. This was another domestic event with a trusted insider walking out like with the Pentagon Papers https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
"Julian Assange: 'A lot more material' coming on US elections" (July 27, 2016)
http://edition.cnn.com/2016/07...
""Perhaps one day the source or sources will step forward and that might be an interesting moment some people may have egg on their faces."
"... they were handed over to him at a D.C. park by an intermediary for 'disgusted' Democratic whistleblowers" (15 December 2016)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/new...
Staff do not later resign over fake files created by another nation.
Domestic spying is now "Benign Information Gathering"
No, they can't give him the toss, because their base will abandon them. Remember, it's the mainstream GOP that's been courting the Trump voters since Nixon's Southern Strategy. Trump is the poison fruit of the GOP tree.
And because they only hold power in the House of Representatives due to extreme gerrymandering, any loss of base will mean an utter wipeout. Whether they like it or not, Trump will be the hill the GOP has chosen to die on. There is no Plan B.
You are welcome on my lawn.
Let me know when you have evidence that can stand up in court. The dems sabotaged Bernie because he wouldn't take corporate cash. Trump pulled off a victory that nobody predicted. Shut up and vote in 2018.
Only the State obtains its revenue by coercion. - Murray Rothbard
Hillary Clinton got off for mishandling classified information , which anyone working at the NSA/CIA would have gone to jail for much less than what HRC did. I can specifically someone in the NSA/CIA doing it just for this reason alone.
Half the items aren't from the WP, but from other news agencies. All WP did was compile them into one timeline.
Good luck, I wouldn't be surprised if the Democrats lose ground. Going to far left got you Trump, what have Democrats done? Turn even harder left.
Everyone, please consider the following:
Is your standard of accepting evidence of Trumps guilt the same as your standard of accepting evidence of Hillary's guilt?
Hillary was not charged. Trump was not charged.
Lots of "dirt" was found on Hillary. Lots of "dirt" was found on Trump.
The only difference here is your politics. If Trump committed treason with the Russians, Hillary committed treason with every country that paid Bill $200K per talk. If Trump interfered with the election, Hillary interfered with the election.
If anything, the evidence against Hillary is stronger than the evidence against Trump. Trump's advisors have circumstantial evidence of wrongdoing, while Hillary's husband provides the evidence against her case.
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