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Electric Vehicles Have Another Record Year, Reaching 2 Million Cars In 2016 (iea.org)
An anonymous reader shares a report from the International Energy Agency: The number of electric cars on the roads around the world rose to 2 million in 2016, following a year of strong growth in 2015, according to the latest edition of the International Energy Agency's Global EV Outlook. China remained the largest market in 2016, accounting for more than 40% of the electric cars sold in the world. With more than 200 million electric two-wheelers and more than 300,000 electric buses, China is by far the global leader in the electrification of transport. China, the US and Europe made up the three main markets, totaling over 90% of all EVs sold around the world. Electric car deployment in some markets is swift. In Norway, electric cars had a 29% market share last year, the highest globally, followed by the Netherlands with 6.4%, and Sweden with 3.4%. The electric car market is set to transition from early deployment to mass market adoption over the next decade or so. Between 9 and 20 million electric car could be deployed by 2020, and between 40 and 70 million by 2025, according to estimates based on recent statement from carmakers.
made up the three main markets....of just about everything
I feel like I'm the only person in the world that doesn't get a stiffy when looking at a Tesla. The Model S reminds me too much of a Jag with a dashboard that is overwhelmed with the 17" display and the Model 3 is just plain ugly.
Just like the Bolt and the Leaf. The i3 is about the best of a bad lot.
How about putting the front line designers on the vehicles and get the concepts evaluated by real people (not tree huggers that want drivers to be tortured even if they're burning electrons and not dinosaur sludge)?
I don't need to scream out at the world I have an electric car, I want something that looks nice, drives well and I can smile smugly to myself when I pass the pumps.
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One hundred and twenty years ago an automobile was a pretty unique sight, and I'm sure every fellow with a horse and carriage snorted "You got to find the gasoline for it, it's smelly a noisy. Who would want that when you've got a perfectly good horse?"
In 1900, there 8,000 cars in the US. By 1910 there were over 458,000.
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And that's why we joke about buggy whip manufacturers.
The world's burning. Moped Jesus spotted on I50. Details at 11.
That's like, a really cold comment, dude.
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There are nine million horses in the United States. There are 260 million automobiles.
The world's burning. Moped Jesus spotted on I50. Details at 11.
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[Response 1: My commute is 300 miles! As a result this electric vehicle is useless for everyone!]
[Response 2: Some electricity is coal-generated! As a result, in all jurisdictions, this car is more polluting than a 1973 VW Microbus!]
You have zero outlets in your home? Is it a tent?
Horse-drawn to Gasoline Car was a revolution.
Gas to Electric is a little thing that car dealers and mechanics worry about.
I am definitely hopeful. I'd love to buy an electric car now. However, I live in a condo, and board and owners are not interested in installing any charging points in our parking. So, no luck in any foreseeable future.
Give it a few years. Charging stations in the parking area will become an important competitive point for apartment and condo complexes, just as parking spots and swimming pools are now.
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You remind me of my father, who wouldn't buy a color TV until 1998 because they weren't "perfected" yet.
You are welcome on my lawn.
Why do Electric Car makers not make EVs that look Identical or indistinguishable to a Gasoline powered model.
They do. You just never notice them because, well, they look indistinguishable from the gasoline-powered model.
Here are some examples of electric cars you probably wouldn't be able pick out of a crowd:
2017 FIAT 500e
2017 Ford Fusion Energi
2017 Mercedes Benz E-Class
2017 Ford Focus Electric
2017 Kia Soul EV
2017 Volkswagen e-Golf
I don't care if it's 90,000 hectares. That lake was not my doing.
Thats a bummer, here in the UK you can charge an EV off a standard plug, takes 8-10 hours to fully charge. i think the only proviso is that its best to check your wring is up to date
"The hands that help are better far than lips that pray." - Robert Ingersoll (1833-1899)
>because he needs that. tesla badly needs same kind of taxing as Finland etc have to go in effect in USA.
He doesn't need more sales for Tesla. They have a very long list of customers. If you order a tesla 3 NOW you'll have to wait a year. In fact, no adverts for tesla are being made.
look, if you want emissions down in USA it is rather simple, start co2 taxing like many places in the world.
Taxes won't help. All they will do is make everyone poorer. I've heard talks from people working on alternative energy and funding dries up when taxes are increased. People need the money and freedom to develop the next best thing. Oh, and these people complain about the cost of energy. It takes a lot of energy to weld windmills together and get them tested. Moving the windmills to the site means transport by truck.
When it comes down to it energy is energy. If carbon fuels are taxed then all energy prices go up. This will always be the case until we no longer burn fossil fuels. Until then adding taxes on the fuels will only slow down the transition, not increase it.
Think about it. You have an electric train that has a cost of $10 per whatever (I'm not feeling creative enough to thing of proper units right now). I have a diesel train that can do it at $15 per whatever. After I add in overhead and profit margin I come up with a total of $20 per whatever to charge. You want business and maximum profits and so you charge $19 and get most of the business.
Then a carbon tax comes along, my costs just went up to $20. If I want to make any profit at all I have to raise my price. I do some thinking, and I decide I have to charge $25. What are you going to do? You've already got as much business as you can handle. Your clients aren't going to pick me unless they have to. Unless you also raise your prices, to something like $23, you are going to get hassled by stockholders in your company and potentially sued for not doing your duty as the operator to maximize profits.
Also, some of what you need for your business will move to you by my and other more expensive trains. At some point you will have to raise prices as the taxes work their way into the prices of goods. Who wins on this? The government. Who loses? EVERYONE.
I've also talked to people that deal in ethanol. If you want to see a taxation and regulation nightmare then look at what it takes to open an ethanol fuel plant. The prohibition of alcohol may have ended but the taxes never did. If you want to see bio-fuels get some development then we need to get rid of the alcohol taxes.
I am armed because I am free. I am free because I am armed.
EVs are simply inevitable, the only ting that have held them back (i.e."only" 29% of all new cars in 2016) here is the fact that most people prefers 4x4 station wagons for carrying stuff up to their winter cabins, and so far only Tesla have been able to provide more or less that, and at a price point which is more or less the same as a Volvo or BMW 4x4.
As soon as you can buy a dual-motor (4x4) EV with reasonable range for under $50K, no more ICE cars will be sold here.
My father was the Chairman of the largest EV importer in Norway for a number of years, so my family had various EVs as second cars, and I got intimately familiar with range anxiety from those. Based on that and the need for 4x4 I believed I had to wait for the Tesla Model X to be able to use an EV as our only car, but when they announced dual-motor versions of Model S I immediately decided to order one.
In hindsight my only regret is that at least some of the extra perks EVs get here have to go away over the next few years, the tax people have to get their revenue some way which means that the toll roads will start charging us, parking won't be free any more and we'll probably lose general access to bus & taxi lanes.
Terje
PS. Since Norway is a net exporter of hydro-electric power, all EVs are really 100% pollution free here, in countries with lots of coal-fired power plants in the grid mix the case isn't quite so obvious but still better than the very best ICE cars.
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I am an EV owner living in Norway, and we had this kind of problems in the news. The government is thinking of making it a requirement for condos to allow installation of charging stations.
The argument of the recalcitrant condos was that old electric systems could not support charging all cars if all tenants switched to EVs, so they decided to forbid it outright for everybody, in order not to create a precedent. In my condo, for example, we have a standing rule that we cannot install a charger for more than 16 A each. Yet this point is moot, since it practically never happens that all cars are charging at the same time, and if it does is during the night. I charge my Leaf on average once a week (in our garage we also have a Tesla S, a Tesla X, a Kia Soul Electric and a VW E-golf out of 15 flats). The electric grid could just as well get overloaded if all tenants started their ovens, washing machines and heaters at the same time, and the worst that can happen is that the main switch trips.
Also, having 32 A charging is nice to have the time you need it, but no one actually uses daily it if they can help it, because:
What I think is more challenging for the US is that a lot of people rent rather than buy, so they would be unwilling to buy their charging stations. I bought my own for about 1000 dollars (including cabling, B-type residual-current device and installation) and I consider an investment in the house, but people renting will not be willing to shell out that much money (though you can probably get away with 100 $ if you install a simple socket and use the onboard charger).
Victims of 9/11: <3000. Traffic in the US: >30,000/y
Having experienced both (my own charger and fast chargers): you definitely want to use your own charger. Fast chargers are really expensive (about as expensive as gas by the km—European gas that is!), and their kWh price is about 10 times what you would get from your power company; the reason is that they pay high tariffs for kW rating (as opposed to kWh).
Fast chargers are for people driving long distances once in a while who need to recharge their vehicle midway. If you use them regularly, you will not save anything on "fuel" compared to gas, plus your battery will degrade faster in the long run. If you can buy an EV, you should also have your own little (slow) charging station at home, and use it overnight as you main charging strategy: this will save you loads of money.
Victims of 9/11: <3000. Traffic in the US: >30,000/y
I'm in a room with 12 developers, 24 screens (24 inch flat). SInce I have been here (4 years) only 2 have died.
"Only" 2 out of 12 developers dead in 4 years? Are you in some Special Forces cyber unit?
To have a right to do a thing is not at all the same as to be right in doing it
One may note that what the average person thinks "looks aerodynamic" often doesn't correspond to what actually is aerodynamic. The Saturn Sky sure "looks" aerodynamic (top up), but its drag coefficient is 0.42. The Dodge Viper is even worse, at 0.45, and the Ford Mustang ranges from 0.44-0.48. Meanwhile, the definitely not-sleek looking Ford Escape has a drag coefficient of 0.29. The SUV has a much larger cross-sectional area, of course, but that's beside the point -cross-sectional area is useful, but a high drag coefficient is not. Well, with one exception: a number of "sporty" cars get deliberately bad drag coefficients by being designed to create downforce (for an ideal streamlined shape you want no net lift); a Formula 1 car can have a drag coefficient of over 1.0, deliberately, in order to get as much downforce as possible to maximize its grip on the road. But for the most part, when a mass-market car has a bad drag coefficient, it's to play to people's style preferences, not for any functional reason.
We gotta go to a crappy town where I'm a hero.
Condominiums are pretty common the world over, actually—Wiki is your friend.
What is particular in Norway, is that we have two distinct types of condominiums:
The first are usually common for larger and more expensive apartments, and for (almost) all free-standing houses. The second are exempt from the heavy taxes levied on acquisition of real estate (2.5%), since you are buying a share, not real estate, but require more administration since it's the company that formally owns the whole building. They are also more heavily regulated, for example there are strict limits to subletting, since their social purpose is to provide people a home they own and live in, as opposed to be a pure investment object.
Most problems with EV chargers come with the Borettslag, because there you need to ask for permission for any major renovation you want to do (because formally it's not yours). In a Sameie things are usually easier, though you must handle them yourself.
Victims of 9/11: <3000. Traffic in the US: >30,000/y
Maybe no advertisements, but they are spending a hell of a lot of money on marketing with flashy stores in the highest rent locations.