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Delays In Unlocking Cellphones Seized In Inauguration Day Protests? (buzzfeed.com)
Cellphone data may play a key role in prosecuting people arrested at inauguration day protests, according to an article shared by Slashdot reader Mosquito Bites. A U.S. attorney acknowledged that "the government recovered cell phones from more than 100 indicted defendants and other un-indicted arrested" in a filing last March, adding "The government is in the process of extracting data from the Rioter Cell Phones pursuant to lawfully issued search warrants, and expects to be in a position to produce all of the data from the searchers Rioter Cell Phones in the next several weeks."
But 11 weeks later, it's a different story. Prosecutors "have provided defense lawyers with access to hundreds of hours of video footage from January 20, but have yet to turn over data extracted from more than 100 cell phones seized during the arrests, according to lawyers who spoke with BuzzFeed News." In addition, they report that now more than half the 200-plus defendants "are vowing not to cooperate with prosecutors, even in the face of a new set of felony charges that carry stiff maximum prison sentences."
But 11 weeks later, it's a different story. Prosecutors "have provided defense lawyers with access to hundreds of hours of video footage from January 20, but have yet to turn over data extracted from more than 100 cell phones seized during the arrests, according to lawyers who spoke with BuzzFeed News." In addition, they report that now more than half the 200-plus defendants "are vowing not to cooperate with prosecutors, even in the face of a new set of felony charges that carry stiff maximum prison sentences."
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In a similar way to the "mistakes" this young lady who leaked classified made, so to did most of these demonstrators.
Seriously, if you're going to participate or be part of the leadership of an organized protest, consider all your "command and control" participants use - get this! - "burner phones", and then at some point, ditch them.
If you want news from today, you have to come back tomorrow.
more than half the 200-plus defendants "are vowing not to cooperate with prosecutors
Why would anyone cooperate with their prosecution?
Do I misunderstand something here? Typically you cooperate with your defence and are adversarial with your prosecution, no?
Lets not forget the kind of crap that went on during these "protests" (AKA riots). They were quite violent and at least one event could be considered attempted murder--the one in which a person's hair was set on fire.
Aside from tweeting out demonstrable lies that aren't even spelled correctly, who knows what else he's up to on the toilet. Probably on FaceTime with the Kremlin, showing off his butt hole.
Yeah, let's just make "being someone the Left/Progressives don't like" a capital offense, and let's get those cattle-cars rollin' and those ovens cookin'!
Please stop metabolizing.
B...B...But her emails...
...spawned and investigation that Loretta Lynch spoke to Bill Clinton in a plane about. When that became public, they handed it off to Comey, who granted immunity wildly, obtained no warrants, and filed no charges. Instead of convicted or even charged, the criminal walked free.
Ah, still upset that your partisan play never became a sold-out show?
I get it, the poor little apologist for the Troll in the Oval Office is having problems adjusting to the dissonance created by the need to defend a repellent piece of slime, huh?
You do realize that the Right-Wing Conservative Reactionaries would have a better chance of not walking straight into the quicksand if they didn't embrace the Corruption of the Great Orange Extraordinaire, right?
Start cogitating. For once.
Have gnu, will travel.
My guess... the DoJ will pull everything can off the phones and then say they determined they had enough evidence they didn't need to analyze the phones and hence there's nothing for them to submit as part of discovery. As long as they don't directly reference something they found on a phone, they'll get away with it. It's easy enough to do. They find an incriminating email, they just subpoena the provider for the email. Same for text messages. They'll just have to prove how they knew that person's email/phone address without access to the phone. Given how most people splash their contact info all over the place now, it shouldn't be that hard.
There are two reasons I think they'll do this... the most obvious is they don't have to disclose how much they actually do know and second an analysis of what they could and couldn't pull off 100-150+ phones could give some indication of just how good (or bad) their phone cracking is and they don't want that known (either way)
Upset? Not really. We won you lost. Your candidate lost votes because we smeared her with her emails. Democrats have no chance to influence policy or make Supreme Court picks for years. You're fucked and you know it. No matter what you do you'll always know the vast right wing conspiracy fucked you good and hard.
"[...] even in the face of a new set of felony charges that carry stiff maximum prison sentences."
One of the side benefits from Sessions changed sentencing requirements. The Kochs are swallowing it because they want that infrastructure payout.
More deliberate, purposeful targeting by Trump of groups, companies, institutions, or people based on leftist political leanings.
Why would anyone agree to be punished ? A person loses their freedom and their job just for being a suspect; why enable more abuse? Has everyone forgotten 'presumption of innocence'? A person doesn't have to help the prosecutors; those prosecutors do have to present evidence of criminal intent. What prosecutors really mean, is they don't want to do their job. If the value of due process is so low, perhaps that's a sign: There are more important things to do.
Why didn't the prosecutors apply felony charges earlier? Either prosecutors have done their job and gathered evidence without co-operation; which makes the lack of co-operation irrelevant, or they're blackmailing suspects into confessing to 'lesser' crimes; and such 'co-operation' isn't happening.
This unashamed whinging reveals that either way, the prosecutors aren't pursuing due process.
Which would be a walk for the defendants.
By keeping them in suspense they hope they'll take the plea bargain and come out worse off.
It's always interesting to note that it's been Republicans who have sought to impeach Democrats for specious and unfounded reasons that are actually based on their own political partisanship, yet somehow can't even recognize the amoral scum they've embraced is bad for them, it's like they don't know they really should demonstrate their vaunted love of moral integrity every now and again.
It's like the political party doesn't know they need to keep their own house in order, not just praise every arsonist thug who wears their preferred T-Shirt and shouts the right sounding words. Or tweets. Without you know, actually managing a coherent sentence, but who cares about that?
Because as we all know, the Republican party would never call for the impeachment of a Democrat president.
Whenever you see the word "lawful", you know something bad for the common people is being done in the name of DUH LAW.
Remember boys & girls: "rule of law" just means "rule of lawyers". All the great human calamities of the 20th century - the trenches of WWI, the Armenian genocide, the Jewish holocaust in Germany, the atomic holocaust at Hiroshima and Nagasaki, the allied firebombing of Berlin and Tokyo, Stalin's purges, the American chemical warfare against the Vietnamese people, the Soviet war against the Afghan people, the firebombing of Bagdad, etc etc - were all 100% unambiguously "lawful".
Virtuous laws and their just administration can be a great benefit to a people. Badlaws are worse than nothing.
The Republican's waited for Clinton to do something wrong.
The Democrats were calling for Trump to be impeached the day after the election, over two months before he took office.
The Criminal-in-Chief probably commits worse crimes on his bathroom toilet than any three Super-villains.
*Citation Needed
As you said - they waited for him to make something wrong first. It's not the democrat's fault that Trump did it earlier than Clinton
You should put that on t-shirts and sell it to those "Democrats" who always want to impeach presidents when the other party wins the elections...
"Always" is a disingenuous word to use here. We're in unprecedented territory here. George W Bush, the previous republican president, had pretty specific causes. Warrant-less wiretapping, the patriot act, misleading to get us into two wars... We're not talking "He gave us healthcare! THROW HIS ASS INTO JAIL!"
and who demonstrate their love of free speech by doing their best to disrupt and silence those who disagree with them.
The far left wing did shut down a few high-profile speakers at college campuses, it didn't silence them. For that to happen, Milo had to go making pedo comments. Ann Coulter is still spewing her brand of hate-speech, as is her right. The right wing is silencing people who disagree with them with violence.
The Obama administration (Lynch and Comey) obstructed justice.
They only slowed it down. Justice happened on election night when it became clear that she wouldn't win. In that instant, not only did she became obsolete herself, but she took down with her a whole system of corruption, greed and moral complacency. Now if the Democrats want to beat Trump they will need someone like Oprah or Beyonce.
Just by being such a terrible candidate she did a much better job of draining the swamp than Trump. All the fucks who poured millions in the Clinton foundation and who bought furniture for them are goners; all the bloodsuckers, staffers, interns, sycophants and donors that buzzed around Darth Clinton are also ancient history. This whole soap opera with the investigations about Comey and Russia are merely the fanfare saluting the disappearance of decades of DNC corruption. That is true justice.
Now bring Oprah to entertain the masses and let real Democrats lead the political agenda. Evil has been defeated.
lucm, indeed.
Yeh, yah pretend the issue with Trump is somehow partisan.
Republicans suddenly love Russia, hate democracy, love their president to appoint Russian spies, and use Moscow secured networks to protect discussions from Congress and Senate.
They love how his campaign staff held secret meetings with Russian secret service, and exchanged emails with Russian government hackers. Yeh, Republicans love being lied to.
And I'm sure Republicans love it, that any foreign government can donate large amounts of money/assets to Trump and several already have. (And he's even gone back on his word about donating foreign cash to charity, now they say they'll only donate money if someone specifically indicates it came from a foreign government, and refuse to list any such money).
Yeh its a partisan issue obviously.
Party before country. Make Trump Great Again, lucm.
> It's always interesting to note that it's been Republicans who have sought to impeach Democrats for specious and unfounded reasons
Bill was impeached for lying under oath. The only reason he was testifying about the consensual sex with Monica Lewinsky was because he was being tried for sexual harassment and it was relevant to whether or not he expected sex from his interns. His acts with Monica pretty much answer that question. As impeachment is purely a political matter, it played out accordingly.
Bill settled the civil court case regarding the non-consensual sex acts and sexual harassment (because yeah, the US president asking his interns for sex isn't creepy or anything....) out of court and voluntarily gave up his law license to avoid being disbarred, effectively pleading guilty to avoid further embarassment. But the average person will say he got "impeached for a blow job" and ignore what happened to women like Juanita Broderick because you probably still don't know who the hell that is without googling it and we can totally ignore the non-consensual sex if we focus on Monica and the "vast right-wing conspiracy" to seduce Slick Willy.
Yes, yes, you've been disparaging Obama for years, to the point where you concocted an insane reason for a simple misstatement, and now, with Trump, who just this week gave some sort of rambling response while sputtering over Comey's testimony, you still can't admit that the best explanation for Trump's inability to even read a teleprompter is simple senility. You're still stuck on your anti-Obama fixation.
But seriously, you lost the teleprompter argument when it was Palin whining about it as she read from one herself.
Not true. According to the Democracy Index:
Democratic Republic of Timor-Leste: "Flawed Democracy" (on a par with Greece)
Democratic Socialist Republic of Sri Lanka: "Flawed Democracy" (ranks between Mexico and Malaysia)
Democratic Republic of Sao Tome and Principe: too small to be rated, but certainly pretty free by African standards
Federal Democratic Republic of Nepal: "Hybrid Regime" (like Nicaragua)
That's, approximately, half the countries with "democratic" in their name, which are doing better than average.
In referencing those "pedo comments" I note that you don't mention that Milo was talking about the incident when he himself was abused and moving past hate of his abuser. That's kind of an odd thing to omit, don't you think? Or did you even know that part? Please explain.
Your definition of "silence" is also tricky. They did get individual speeches cancelled and burned down a bit of Berkley, various people got arrested for things like sneak attacks with a bike lock to the head or attacking an unconscious person and posting that fact online with pictures, like the "liberal" genius they were. I put "liberal" in quotes as it's quite clear that they're actually complete jerks and not people who believe in live and let live.
As for the hate crimes, yes there were real ones, but you might want to look back at some of the reports now that arrests have been made. A not inconsiderable number were fake, especially the most notorious. Try fact checking them -- http://fakehatecrimes.org/ Well, there was that real one where an old man was beaten by about 6 others while someone yelled about him being a Trump supporter and filmed it. Or that other hate crime where a bunch of people decided to kidnap and torture a classmate. Funny we don't hear about those so much, despite there being videos of both crimes, right?
And look at the actual evidence. There are arrest records showing the people who did it, you don't have to take some random website's word for it. The fact that you haven't heard about most of these again is pretty much all the proof you need, though. If Trump could be blamed for it, HuffPo and WaPo would spend all day writing about it.
Yes, yes, you've been disparaging Obama for years, to the point where you concocted an insane reason for a simple misstatement
The video is a 5 minute compilation of a large number of different times when his inability to speak without cue cards was made obvious. Spinning that as a "simple misstatement" is like saying that Bill Clinton had just one extramarital affair.
lucm, indeed.
You lost your argument when the Clinton Death List started to be spouted as genuine fact by all the Republican Stalwarts, and it continues to be recited as a testament today. This was further enhanced by ever-popular (on the Right) birtherism and dozens of other farcical scandals and hysterics, which rather demonstrated a lack of serious criticism. Add in the established criminal actions of many of those Republican prosecutors in the House, which mysteriously you find not even the slightest demonstration of opprobrium, and you're losing your place on the pedestal by diving head-first into the muck.
Even now, you have people proclaiming the evils of Hillary, while suddenly embracing a man known for his corruption and malfeasance for decades, whose proclamations in the White House show only a tendency towards grandiosity and pompousness that are only exceeded by the lack of rational thinking he has demonstrated.
He's even lied about the circumstances of his slinking into the Oval Office. Lost a National Security adviser who lied about payments from foreign sources. His spokeswoman hawked his daughter's wares when they were upset about a retailer dropping the products.
The video is a 5 minute compilation of a large number of different times when his inability to speak without cue cards was made obvious
So what about the hours of donnie speaking worse?
Can you do me a small favor? Maybe it's big, I don't know. Could you tell me what that has to do with today? See, I am as left as ever lefted. I have no idea how that applies to today. Please school me.
"So long and thanks for all the fish."
"are vowing not to cooperate with prosecutors, even in the face of a new set of felony charges that carry stiff maximum prison sentences."
"Confess now or we will hurt you thrice as much!" FTFY
I should probably abandon thread.
What has that got to do with the now? I'm willing to listen. In fact, I must. I am really fucking confused.
"So long and thanks for all the fish."
Fuck me. I tried hard to agree with you. I was willing to ignore the pedo bit. Then, you did the 'her brand' of hate speech.
No... I don't even agree with the premise of hate speech. Sorry, I am a lefty that still supports rights such as the freedom of speech. Hell, I even support it for non-Americans... But, when you called it her own brand, you lost me.
To be fair, the American left lost me a while ago. However, I want you to understand why. Do you get it, or do I need to spell it put for you? Just in case you're curious, I am the American left. Youre going to be sad when the right keeps winning, probably. I wonder how long it will be before you figure out why. I can only do my part, while you retard our growth.
"So long and thanks for all the fish."
I am sure you want to suck HItler's cock as well. Too bad he has been dead for so very long you fascist fuck.
The context is that the Trump haters keep accusing him of things that their own candidates do.
-Interference with the FBI investigation (the same guy, Comey, is the one that Clinton blames for losing the elections because he refused to stop investigating her email snafu)
-Taking money from foreign countries (which the Clintons have done for over 25 years)
-colluding with Russia (where Bill Clinton gave a speech to promote Uranium One, which conveniently received the blessing of the US govt to be partially acquired by Russian interests while Hillary Clinton was secretary of state)
so when a Trump hater accuse him of being unable to manage a coherent sentence, it's hard not to think of Obama who could probably not give the time of day if he has no cue cards.
lucm, indeed.
"prosecuting people arrested at inauguration day riots "
Showing up with clubs, hammers and then proceeding to smash/burn storefronts, cars, limos and anything else is NOT protesting.
you fascist fuck.
Could you point out the parts of my comment that, according to you, are fascist? Or maybe you mistakenly believe that "fascists" are simply people who disagree with you?
Like many of your liberal peers, you display an interesting combination of intolerance and ignorance. Who would have guessed that Donald Trump was all it took to have you people drop your masks of civilized supporters of democracy and freedom.
lucm, indeed.
Yes, yes, your unhinged level of despite for Obama is quite evident, that's why you're stuck with your freak-out over a simple misstatement that you turned into some insane conspiracy theory, your rampant birther-ism, and you even managed to freak out over a bunch of drapes from the Kennedy administration, a bust of Winston Churchill and fell for a bad photoshop of the pledge of allegiance. The teleprompters was just the tip of the hypocrisy, the real depths were elsewhere in the labyrinthine convolutions of your diatribes. That's the reality of the histrionics you spent 8 years screeching over.
All while hoping for a revolution, since Obama won a Nobel Prize that was awarded just to spite George W.
And now you have thrown your unstinting devotion to a pompous fool who if we're lucky, doesn't hit the wrong button in the toilet.
Maybe they'll give him another one for not being Donald Trump. Maybe they'll give Kim Jung-il one for not being Donald Trump. Maybe they'll give YOU one for not being Donald Trump.
I am just having fun with this thread. Shall I talk about Nepal?
Because of the way their visas work, it doesn't cost a whole lot to go to Nepal. By the way, Nepal has a bunch of crazy import and export restrictions. They WILL examine your electronic devices for messages, including those that are considered subservient and are posted online or by email.
Keep in mind, I love Nepal. I have been there twice, once for an extended visit.
Now, the longer your in Nepal, the more it will cost you. If you want to climb K2, or Everest, you're going to want financial aid. It gets worse, if you want to interact with locals beyond the Sherpa. Plan on $250/day, if you want permission to film and visit remote villages.
I don't have a problem, but it's vital to know this, I think. I had a visa application in. I'm a secular Buddhist and can pay any fees they ask. They had a pretty good earthquake. Seriously, it was pretty good. I think I posted about it here, on Slashdot.
I tried to send them money. I was denied. I tried to get them to speed up my visa process. I was denied. I tried to send money ahead, as they require you to put some back into the local communities if you're on a tourist visa. I was denied. I tried to pay for a second and third visa. I was denied. I tried to send the agency some money, I was told not to because it would cause problems.
Eventually, I got to go back for a week and was pretty much limited to going to the specific monastery and only that. I could do no outreach and could not go to the city to help. I am a secular Buddhist. Previously, I'd gone to Nepal every couple of years. I haven't been back since 2015.
The second to last time, we went and bought some horses. We traveled for a bit. It was like an extra $250/day, after paying the bribes. I love Nepal, and I love the people. However, it isn't all people see, to think it is. If you want an example, go look at the rules and costs, just to climb Everest. And no, no, they aren't going to come rescue you or retrieve your body.
"So long and thanks for all the fish."
It's difficult to take the moral high ground about the Democrat loss when the Republican candidate won. A man who is not only willing to appoint personal friends and even family members to positions of power, but doesn't even try to hide it.
"Let's all show up with wearing black masks and black clothes so the one who smashes stuff cannot be identified", "Whahhhhttttt. You are arresting all of us in black masks and black clothes."
"You make me side with republicans" partisan smoke screen aside.
When the NEXT election happens, and Putin is selecting which Republicans he likes and which he doesn't will you side with America or Putin?
The details of Putin's plans have been revealed repeatedly and often. You are willfully ignoring those details.
http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Passcode/2017/0106/Intelligence-agencies-reveal-Putin-plan-to-back-Trump
Trying to shut down the investigation, WHY? If Trump has nothing to hide, he has nothing to be afraid from an investigation.
That isn't even the half of it, he also won by the dubious electoral process, lied about it, and even claimed the election was irreparably tainted by fraud.
It does help to be on record as supporting electoral reform, even the NPVIC, but Trump's rampant deceits poisoned his administration on it's own. He might have achieved something with a conciliatory effort, but he went full braggadocio.
No matter of much he gallops, people don't have to forget that.
I am the American left. I haven't associated with the liberals or progressives, for quite a while. I'd like to apologize for their behavior, not that it will help.
This doesn't mean I side with the right. It does mean I understand their confusion. My side is full of hypocrites and liars. Your side is too, but I am doing the important step of admitting the guilt on my side.
I am sorry for the identity politics. I am sorry that they tried to force views on you, by means of curtailing your speech. No, really... I am going to say the worst of it. I'm sorry that some of the people who spoke, on your side's behalf, we're cut down for being racists. I am even sorry if they were curtailed AND they were racists.
I am not kidding. I'm sorry that they shouted down racists and told them that they weren't allowed to speak. I don't believe you are actually racist. You might be, we won't know because you've been told you can't tell us.
I am the left. We have a lot in common. Tell your friends that we still exist.
"So long and thanks for all the fish."
They got caught, the feds got their phones, their "friends" are probably going to rat them out, and they think they can make things better by being uncooperative. As if being a whiny bitch is something the feds have never seen before. Well maybe if they can stall things for eight years or so then President Oprah might consider granting them a pardon. Unless she doesn't want trouble at her inaugural. Justice is blind, but she ain't stupid.
The thing is, that's who he is. He decided to become President, and did it pretty much by himself with the help of family and friends, and with his own money. He had a tiny team of volunteers compared to Clinton; his own party didn't want him there and tried to get rid of him even after the primaries.
He's been like that his whole life. We're talking about a guy who literally fought for decades with bureaucrats to develop some land that he bought in NYC. He's not a sweet-talker that sugarcoated his way to power. He's in-your-face, doesn't-bend-over kind of guy. He doesn't try to hide things because that's who he is.
But there's more to the guy. Have you seen this thing that happened at a debate during the primaries? He saw that Carson was confused and stayed back to let him make a dignified entrance:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
First time in forever that there's a WYSIWYG president. It's refreshing, it's not the end of the world.
lucm, indeed.
how could he possibly have done something wrong as President two months before taking office?
You are clearly nowhere near stupid enough to believe that, so what is your game here? Why are you insulting the intelligence of all readers here no matter what their political views?
I'm no fan of Hillary and some things from the Manning leaks showed she was unfit for office, but what's with the delusionary shit above?
Those in black masks and black clothes and no badge were police and not one of them was arrested. Despite being required to identify themselves to the public by law.
Sometimes it's hard to tell. Either use ISIS as an excuse for suspending everybody's right to anything.
I have also been to Nepal. I walked to Kala Pattar from the Rai areas, rather than flying into Lukla. It cost me less than $10 a day.
"To any truly impartial person, it would be obvious that I am right."
1. No, you're not, you're a single individual not a representative grouping.
2. What has this got to do with cellphones?
No matter what you do you'll always know the vast right wing conspiracy fucked you good and hard.
No, Progressives' own dishonesty, corruption, elitism, and arrogance fucked them good and hard. They were hoisted by their own petard, as it were. If they weren't criminal primary-rigging sleazebags no amount of email leaks or hackers, Russian or otherwise, could have damaged them like we saw happen in 2016. An opened bag of stale, moldy potato chips found alongside the road could have won vs HRC.
It's as if they finally listened to all the liberty-loving people who've been telling them to go fuck themselves, and they actually went and did it!
Strat
Progressivism (aka US 'Liberalism'): Ideas so good they need a police/surveillance-state to enforce.
I don't agree with everything Trump does, but my favorite criticism to laugh at is that he doesn't 'act presidential'. Good. 'Acting presidential' has had us giving away so much of our freedom, treasure, and opportunities in the name of forced globalism and it's got to stop.
If Trump has one huge failing it's that he's been surrounded all his life by other rich people, most of whom are shady corrupt liars. Think about it: Trump made most of his money from real estate deals. You do that by dealing with other rich people. Sure there are exceptions, but multi billion dollar developments don't happen by dealing with working class folks.
More rich people get that way by stealing money from poor people, or more accurately from getting the government to make it possible for them to extract as much wealth as possible from workers (for example, Sam Walton's disgusting heirs) or by directly taking taxpayer money or operating taxpayer funded monopolies. The number of 'I had an idea, I started a company and we became successful' folks who are truly very rich is amazingly small and always has been. It's one of the more destructive myths Americans like to tell themselves. In fairness it's certainly not a myth for a lot of people who run smaller businesses and become well off and comfortable, but never rich in the grand scheme because that level of rich requires inheritance, luck, or an excessive level of personal corruption--generally two of those. An unlucky sociopath is a petty thief. A lucky one is a billionaire. It's true much more than the hard work myth is.
When you're surrounded by rich folks who are relatively nice to you because lying and acting is a game they're good at, you might just tend to believe that they're actually good people who know what they're doing, as opposed to spoiled trust fund babies and lying thieves. That's the only explanation I can think of for some of Trump's bizarre cabinet appointments. It does seem to be a Republican trait though. You hear a lot more about the antics of Republican cabinet and agency heads, and when a Democrat is in office the news tends to be more focused on the president and that person's immediate surrounding staff. If you define, as I do, 'anti-American' as 'operating against the economic interests and social will of the majority of the people in the country', Ronald Reagan had one of the most corrupt anti-American cabinets in all history, W wasn't that far behind, and now Trump. Clinton and Obama had some real losers as well of course, and they certainly didn't act in the interests of the American people either, but for the most part they just weren't the consistent headline grabbers that tend to populate Republican cabinets.
If you have a dozen people planning and executing violence together, it makes a lot more sense to try them as a group, so that the jury sees the big picture and the defense can use the big picture. The convictions and sentencing are still individual.
Smashing windows in fed buildings in downtown DC carry's heavy fines ..like smashing windows in a post office or a mail van or FBI building etc ..and in the end did it do any good? it was like a triple failure
that Starbucks was renting from the federal government
I had a friend who was 83 years old he CCW into a post office and someone noticed a bulge in back of his jacket ..at 83 he went to jail ..feds do not play
Purposeful, honest, level headed discourse is desperately needed from both sides to resolve this country's great divide. Both sides shouting "Fuck YOU!" to each other is getting us nowhere. This Ashamed Coward is guilty of it too.
Well in their fantasy land, nothing they dont come up with matters.
Post that to the GP dude.
John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
You say you want me to understand why the american left lost you, and you call yourself the american left. You give no reasons, but whine about me not being politically correct to the right wing.
So no, I don't think I need it spelled out, it is crystal clear what is going on. Remember to vote December of 2026 and good luck to you.
Sorry, I see that you did. My bad.
John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
A couple of Putin critics die, and the Left immediately "knows" he's a murderer, no facts needed. He's evil. He's the boogeyman. All our problems are his fault. It's time for war.
Dozens of suspicious deaths surround the Clintons with obviously bogus coroners reports and quick cremations so no follow up can be performed, and it's "farcical scandal and hysterics".
Gotcha. No double standard there at all.
The thing is, that's who he is.
True, to the extent that people have been making him the subject of earnest mockery and derision, he has been known and recognized for who he is for decades. Since the 1980s at least.
He decided to become President, and did it pretty much by himself with the help of family and friends, and with his own money.
He did it by embracing the ever-popular aggrandizement of the Republican party, without even the principles of a Perot, and they ate it up, because it was what they wanted.
Desperately. They wanted somebody to promise them the skies, and denounce the evil liberals, and they got it. The Birther-in-Chief.
But yes, he was wealthy enough to get attention, that certainly helped him. He should thank his father. And all the victims of his cons.
He had a tiny team of volunteers compared to Clinton; his own party didn't want him there and tried to get rid of him even after the primaries.
LOL, his own party? Trump isn't a Republican any more than he's a Blue Mongoose. But the party leadership? It's been sycophantic to him since he decided to run, let alone since he took office. They've neither reined him in nor tried to shrink his head. They've been failing the party and its alleged principles for years, but they really took the prize when it came to Trump.
They may be privately dismayed, perhaps, though I doubt they have the intelligence or wisdom for that, but otherwise? No, their actions on Trumpcare, the Muslim Ban, the tweeting, the whole business with Russia, with NATO, they're worse than when they tried to kill the Iran deal just because Obama made it.
He's been like that his whole life. We're talking about a guy who literally fought for decades with bureaucrats to develop some land that he bought in NYC. He's not a sweet-talker that sugarcoated his way to power. He's in-your-face, doesn't-bend-over kind of guy.
Like that his whole life? Yes, I agree, he hasn't changed in character (though in quality, age seems to have taken its toll). He's certainly in your face, but he hides things behind all of that bluster, in fact, he's less honest than you would ever admit. What he's done in New York City, like everywhere else, is find a way to enrich himself, and run rough-shod over the poor and weak to do it. (The AC who endorsed him as only socking the rich, is wrong, he's taken advantage of the poor all the time. His workers HAVE complained.) He isn't sugar-coated, he's slime-coated, and he has slinked his way to power like a slug oozing through a crack, and bent over a lot of people because of who he is, a man who likes to screw people.
He doesn't try to hide things because that's who he is.
The guy has falsely portrayed almost everything he is.
But there's more to the guy.
There's less to the guy.
Have you seen this thing that happened at a debate during the primaries? He saw that Carson was confused and stayed back to let him make a dignified entrance:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
Did you see the actual debates? Or better yet read them? Such empty pompous bombast was revolting. He complained more about the evils of "Political Correctness" than he offered real policy.
It's rather telling that you think your video is important, when what he said up on that stage is what truly matters.
It was an act, sure, but being willing to make that act? Terrible.
That we now have months of a presidential administration to look upon, and you still can
An opened bag of stale, moldy potato chips found alongside the road could have won vs HRC.
Would it be able to tell the truth, and admit it didn't win in a landslide, but picked up a win through the arcane method of the Electoral College, with margins small enough to be impacted by a rainstorm?
Because if so, I'm sure you can pass off that bag of potato chips as the President if they happen to be the Cheese and Onions flavor, and it'll be a sincere improvement over the Trump.
It's as if they finally listened to all the liberty-loving people who've been telling them to go fuck themselves, and they actually went and did it!
Yep, picking Trump as their standard-bearer does amount to getting yourselves screwed, deep and hard. The thing is, everybody's been saying that, and yet you've clung even tighter to him.
It'll be fun seeing that grenade go off in your own hands.
It is funny that the worse he behaves, the more you embrace him.
At the rate he's going, his dishonest, corruption, elitism, and arrogance will fuck the Conservative sleazebags into the ground.
You'll wish you had that bag of potato chips.
Who ever said anything about a death list? He was talking about why Bill was impeached, which was accurate.
Photographic proof of the rioting in action? The police should be wearing body cams showing the actions and subsequent arrest of everyone being charged.
Trying to crack these phones is a waste of government resources - it's more effective to buy and operate body cams, dash cams, drone cams, street cams...
Just a precision, although I'm starting to get tired of being a bit of a Trump apologist. He hasn't always been surrounded by rich people. His father had some made some money being a landlord in blue collar neighborhood but wasn't immensely wealthy; at his death, his estate was worth $20 million. Now, that's good money but that's far from the 8 billions Trump is currently worth.
When Trump got started in "real estate", he was actually collecting rent money for properties owned by his father or himself, and also did a few fixer-upper. That's how he learned the business. It has taken him years to get in the "let's buy a skyscraper" business, and he didn't get there by winning the lottery. Hard work.
lucm, indeed.
Such empty pompous bombast was revolting. He complained more about the evils of "Political Correctness" than he offered real policy.
Ok, now that you're done with your tantrum, let me explain to you how politics work in this day and age.
You go on stage and you say: "I plan to improve the economy by 4% by having a responsible fiscal policy and make long-term investments in education". The guy next to you says: "I'm going to get every hard working American a brand new pickup truck and I'll make those Volkswagen crooks pay for it."
Now, the media has maybe 45 or 60 seconds to cover the debate before people get bored and switch the channel to HBO. What do you think will be the focus of the new report? Put Trump on the air, and you get people to keep watching.
That's how Trump managed to win the primaries and to beat Clinton while having a single campaign office and a tiny budget compared to hers. Hammer out a few messages that sound shocking and you're on the air 24x7; make sure that some of those messages talk to "the salt of the Earth" voters that Clinton ignores because they're in the wrong states, and make sure to address the stuff that truly bothers them (like getting fucked in the ass by Obamacare) and bang, President Trump.
And when in office, he can totally dial down the crazy talk while still keeping the persona for when it's needed. The guy totally understand stardom and played the media like a fiddle.
lucm, indeed.
My guess... the DoJ will pull everything can off the phones and then say they determined they had enough evidence they didn't need to analyze the phones and hence there's nothing for them to submit as part of discovery. As long as they don't directly reference something they found on a phone, they'll get away with it. It's easy enough to do. They find an incriminating email, they just subpoena the provider for the email. Same for text messages. They'll just have to prove how they knew that person's email/phone address without access to the phone. Given how most people splash their contact info all over the place now, it shouldn't be that hard.
There are two reasons I think they'll do this... the most obvious is they don't have to disclose how much they actually do know and second an analysis of what they could and couldn't pull off 100-150+ phones could give some indication of just how good (or bad) their phone cracking is and they don't want that known (either way)
Brady still applies and even for evidence that the investigators know and the prosecution does not but you are right, prosecutors routinely withhold exculpatory evidence. The latest dodge I have seen is prosecutors deciding that the evidence was not exculpatory so it did not need to be disclosed but how can the prosecutor know that? Well, it does not matter because there is no penalty for them if they were wrong. If the coin comes up heads, the prosecutor wins; if the coin comes up tails, then the defense loses.