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US Tech Companies Start To Become Copycats of Chinese Peers (foxbusiness.com)
hackingbear quotes Dow Jones Newswire: Chinese technology companies have long had a reputation of being copycats of Western peers, but U.S. companies have recently begun to return the favor, said a partner at prominent venture-capital firm Andreessen Horowitz... China's internet titans such as Tencent Holdings Ltd. are influencing U.S. startups and majors alike, and many Chinese models are being replicated in the U.S., said Connie Chan, a partner at the Silicon Valley venture firm. LimeBike, a startup at San Mateo, Calif., adapted China's dockless bike-sharing model, first rolled out by Beijing-based Ofo Inc. and Beijing Mobike Technology Co., for U.S. consumers... Also, Apple Inc. recently added payment services to its iMessage chat service, taking a page from Tencent's playbook. "I love this reversal of what 'China copycat' can mean," she said. "It no longer just means a Chinese company copying the States, it can mean a U.S. company copying China."
And they're both common sense ideas with zero evidence that they were copied from the Chinese!
Also, Apple Inc. recently added payment services to its iMessage chat service, taking a page from Tencent's playbook.
A number of messaging services in the US have had this feature for many years. Facebook's Messenger is one example. If you want to get pedantic, a more accurate headline is "Apple copies Facebook Messenger's payment feature".
Having a software feature in common, or offering a similar kind of rental service, is nothing like the kind of copying that the Chinese government run industries have been doing, which is more akin to reverse engineering a physical product in order to manufacture it themselves.
Better known as 318230.
Go look up witte fietsen aka "white bikes".
Good lord - what's with all the shameless propaganda lately on Slashdot trying to sell the ideas that India and China are great and wonderful innovators in technology, finance or industry?
The Chinese copied bike sharing and mobile payments, but first made sure all foreign firms offering similar services were blocked in China. And by the way, the bike sharing is a massive investment scam that is so far a total failure (I live in Shenzhen). If you want to learn from China, learn from their mistakes.
But not everybody copied China
But we Westerners are the pinnacle of Human Intelligence. Proof? Our most powerful man, The Trump.
(Yep. White Western Male here. And for the first time I do feel somewhat... queasy)
>LimeBike, a startup at San Mateo, Calif., adapted
>China's dockless bike-sharing model, first rolled
>out by Beijing-based Ofo Inc. and Beijing Mobike
>Technology Co., for U.S. consumers...
Prepare for broken bikes to blot out the skies Californians
LimeBike, a startup at San Mateo, Calif., adapted China's dockless bike-sharing model, first rolled out by Beijing-based Ofo Inc. and Beijing Mobike Technology Co., for U.S. consumers...
I, for one, have never docked a bike. If this is what passes for Chinese innovation, then we can safely say they still have no idea how to innovate since those heady days of two fucking millennia ago when they were actually doing new stuff. Last time something like this came up I went to wikipedia to look at a list of Chinese inventions and guess what? Half of them are outright bullshit, and the other half are fucking old.
China has a culture of hammering down protruding nails that retards creativity. What laid the groundwork for America to become an industrial power was its cottage industry. We knew how to make things, because nobody would stop you from doing it. We had a real can-do attitude, and we did. There's a lot more to the story, but it rapidly gets ultrapolitical and I've had that argument already. You can't do anything big in China without the blessing of the government. Of course, that's fairly true everywhere, but it's extra-true there.
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
Umm, bike sharing isn't exactly a new idea...
Let me guess? These US companies also copied the wheel from the Chinese? (Hey, if we're going to go back in time, let's go BACK!!)
or rather the lack of them. Who cares about pollution if there's a buck/renmenbi to be made. Same with regulations protecting workers, building codes, etc.
Just after WWII Japan made things cheap and they where made fun of that they kopied everything, but made lousy quality.
It is almost the same. Th difference is that the reason things are made so bad is because we, as customers want it cheap,
They are able to make higher quality. They already do and don't you think theat a few of the almost 1.4 billion people in China are able to come up with ideas on how to do new things?
Don't fight for your country, if your country does not fight for you.
Without presenting a few counter examples due to the plurality of the claim at hand, I believe your definition is a bit meaningless.
that's ruvvry
The Chinese are starting to have real skin in the game, and so they're now in the position we were in in the 19th century. You can continue to play the pirate on a lot of IP issues or you can have other industrial states recognize your IP. You can't have both. If the US hadn't changed, the British and Germans would have repaid us by having government staff engineers regularly bulk shipping American patent applications back to London and Berlin, and we'd have been poorer for it.
so consider the source. Trumpianism is what it is.
Wow a lot of americans are pretty butthurt about this headline. Chill out ladies. The chinese are eating your lunch, its no big deal, go make another.
"It vas inwented in Russia" - on pretty much everything.
The startup didn't copy the Chinese, they copied the Dutch. The founders are only claiming they copied the Chinese company because the founders are Chinese and want to attract funds from Chinese investors
...bullshit.
O2 in the UK had a system where you could transfer money by SMS.
Iove.ylu.
Does that mean we can do away with this copyright BS now?
DJI is a much better example. They pretty much invented the whole "consumer drone" niche and now are the dominant player there. All completely from scratch.
without starting a conversation with an inherent bias, I think your arguments are meaningless. See what I did there?
Anyways, look up mobile payment services in China, Kenya and India. Compare that with what we have in the US (I don't know enough to make observations about Europe). There is a reason these regions are moving faster towards being cashless than the US is (especially China). Not making a claim that this is a work of genius in any way, shape or form - just that this trend spawns a bunch of ideas for which those societies are more ready. And talking about genius ideas, how many of us think that Facebook is a work of earth-shaking genius technically speaking? the back-end wizardry and the quality of the infrastructure aside?
Maybe, but the US's IP laws aren't that dissimilar from those found in the entire Western world,
If you don't know what the DMCA is, then fucking shut up
Cashless can come at a price (no pun intended).
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