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Debian 9 (Stretch) Will Be Released Today (twitter.com)

The Debian Project has been liveblogging today's release of Debian 9 (Stretch) using the Twitter hashtag #releasingstretch. Some of the announcements:
  • The oldstable suite (wheezy) has now been renamed to oldoldstable
  • Debian jessie now been renamed to oldstable!
  • The Debian stretch suites have now been renamed to stable!
  • The draft debian-devel-announce post is ready, archive docs are being cleaned up

This release is named after that purple octopus in Toy Story 3, and more tantalizing tidbits of information keep appearing on Debian's micronews site:

  • At least 1436 people and 18 teams contributed to Debian in 2017
  • Stretch has 25,357 source packages with 9,808,465 source files
  • There were 13 different themes proposed to be the official Debian stretch theme
  • Debian Stretch ships with the free mathematical software SageMath, you can install it with apt
  • During the stretch development, 101 contributors became Debian Developers, and 94 more become Debian Maintainers
  • Debian Stretch will ship with the first release of the Debian Astro Pure Blend [for astronomers]
  • Debian Popularity Contest gathers anonymous statistics about Debian packages usage from about 195,000 reports

16 of 196 comments (clear)

  1. Re:And one other thing... by F.Ultra · · Score: 3, Informative

    So go use Devuan? Or is the anti systemd crowd now joining the SWJ, Vegan, Crossfitter crowds where they cannot stand silent for 5 minutes before announcing their special needs and wants to the world?

  2. Re:And one other thing... by epyT-R · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Critiquing technology != SJW crybullying

  3. Re:Simple question by uM0p+ap!sdn+ · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Debian is the leader

    Oh, so you think ubuntu is, hrhr

    Like most people like you that have no clue, without debian, ubuntu wouldn't exist, ubuntu is based on debian.

    It's astonishing how many people don't know that

    Now, go play with your antiviri, malware, spybot, rootkit, updaters and reboot a few dozen times in between updates and in the mean time, I will get some work done on my debian sid system.

    http://distrowatch.com/index.p... 7 days or 6 months debian is #1

    Windows people, can't live with them ..... We can live without them

  4. systemd not by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    You can use a debian derivative without systemd, for example, my favorite...

    MX Linux, based on Debian stable

    See this
    https://mxlinux.org/
    and the great forum here
    https://forum.mxlinux.org/search.php?search_id=active_topics

    A great community, low snark, up to date community repository with the latest and goodies.
    Useful MX tools for common tasks.

    NO systemd, it uses the older init

    1. Re: systemd not by rknop · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Devuan is a fork of Debian that eschews systemd. It works well for me; indeed, I've been using Devuan testing, and my network of nfs-using machines have been more stable and less trouble than they were under Ubuntu. I recommend it. The more people who use systemd-free distros, the less likely systemd is to take over everything.

  5. Attack of the anons! by Gravis+Zero · · Score: 3, Funny

    That makes two things that brings out the anon trolls in droves: Net neutrality and Systemd.

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    1. Re:Attack of the anons! by somenickname · · Score: 2

      Why call people trolls that point out the problems with systemd swallowing log messages and not providing proper exit statuses?

      Because this is a post about a new release of Debian stable and not a post about systemd. This is Slashdot and flooding a post with systemd hate is just beating a dead horse at this point. Most Slashdot users agree: Systemd sucks. But, there is no need to shit on every Linux post with systemd hate. We get it.

      Yes, the idea of systemd is great

      Actually, I take that back. You *don't* get it.

  6. Re:And one other thing... by rdelsambuco · · Score: 2

    Complaining shaming is sad.

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  7. Congratulations by somenickname · · Score: 5, Insightful

    New releases of Debian stable *should* make the front page of Slashdot. It's a proper Big Deal. You can make a huge list of things that Debian stable is not: Not the most used distro, not the most user friendly distro, not the most up to date distro, not the most "libre" distro, etc... But, if you want to find a distro that meets one of those criteria, it's probably based on Debian. When they release a new stable version, the entire open source community benefits.

    Here's to decades more of Debian stable!

    1. Re:Congratulations by drinkypoo · · Score: 2, Interesting

      New releases of Debian were a lot more exciting before systemd. Now I only care about new releases of Devuan.

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  8. Re:Simple question by slashdice · · Score: 2

    We all know the most popular Linux distro is a 5 year old version of Android.

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  9. Re:"95 different Debian derivatives" by McGiraf · · Score: 2

    Yep, confused people were , are and will be a major problem. Not just with Debian.

  10. Re: And one other thing... by Ziest · · Score: 4, Informative

    You can solve your systemd infection here

    ftp://linuxmafia.com/kb/Debian...

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  11. Re:And one other thing... by Hognoxious · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Because some of us prefer 1,200 lines that work with 17 that don't?

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  12. Re: And one other thing... by squiggleslash · · Score: 2

    Almost everyone who runs a production GNU/Linux system in 2017 runs systemd. If it were even 1% as bad as the systemd trolls claim, GNU/Linux on the server would be radically losing marketshare to FreeBSD and even Windows. It isn't.

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  13. Re:And one other thing... by ras · · Score: 2

    Because some of us prefer 1,200 lines that work with 17 that don't?

    If indeed it was just 17 lines of code that didn't work they might have a point. It's not so hard to fix 17 lines of code. In fact the reason we like 1200 lines of code is because we can fix it.

    The reason we don't like those 17 lines of code is they are really 1,139,536 lines of code hiding behind 17 lines of configuration. Worse it's not just 1 million lines of simple C, but multiple processes communicating through a horrid RPC system that makes the entire thing utterly opaque.

    I didn't think there could be anything that could make me pine for the days I could fix a problem just debugging 1200 written in one of the worst programming languages on the planet (shell script) - but bless his black little heart, Lennart has managed to prove to me I was wrong.