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6 Female Founders Accuse VC Justin Caldbeck of Making Unwanted Advances (techcrunch.com)
An anonymous reader quotes a report from TechCrunch: Yesterday The Information reported on allegations made by half a dozen women working in the tech industry who say they have faced unwanted and inappropriate advances from Silicon Valley venture capitalist, Justin Caldbeck, co-founder and managing partner of Binary Capital. The women include Niniane Wang, co-creator of Google Desktop and a prior CTO of Minted; and Susan Ho and Leiti Hsu, co-founders of Journy, a travel planning and booking service. The Information also talked to three other women who said Caldbeck made inappropriate advances to them. It says these women did not want their names disclosed for fear of retaliation from the VC -- and because of wider concerns they might suffer a backlash from men in the industry who don't see inappropriate advances as a problem. Among the allegations made to The Information are that Caldbeck sent explicit text messages to women; that Caldbeck sent messages in the middle of the night suggesting meeting up; that Caldbeck suggested going to a hotel bedroom during a meeting; that Caldbeck made a proposition about having an open relationship; and that Caldbeck grabbed a woman's thigh under the table of a bar during a meeting. Several of the women reported finding Caldbeck's advances so awkward they gave up on continued dealings with him. In Caldbeck's initial statement, he "strongly" denied the allegations and claimed: "I have always enjoyed respectful relationships with female founders, business partners, and investors." However, in response to The Information's story, his tone changed significantly: "Obviously, I am deeply disturbed by these allegations. While significant context is missing from the incidents reported by The Information, I deeply regret ever causing anyone to feel uncomfortable. The fact is that I have been privileged to have worked with female entrepreneurs throughout my career and I sincerely apologize to anyone who I made uncomfortable by my actions. There's no denying this is an issue in the venture community, and I hate that my behavior has contributed to it." Caldbeck has since released a full statement to Axios, where he says he "will be taking an indefinite leave of absence from Binary Capital..."
If there's something to this, then they should report this to the cops instead of broadcasting massive smear campaigns. Oh right, filing false reports is illegal so they resort to this instead.
Feminists just don't want women to have to be held accountable for the truth. So much for equality.
why is this random person newsworthy? oh, he's not, it's just a blog based smear campaign sponsored by slashdot. nice.
This news is:
Probably largely true,
probably what he did isn't illegal (just awkward),
and he's probably already been punished by his company.
tbh there's no reason to publicize anyone in this story, the situation's been handled. Let people move on with their lives.
"First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
Or more likely their unfamiliarity with American culture us why they mistook his pleasanteries for unwanted advances. That's why foreigners should stay on the other side of the wall.
Among the allegations made to The Information are that Caldbeck sent explicit text messages to women; that Caldbeck sent messages in the middle of the night suggesting meeting up; that Caldbeck suggested going to a hotel bedroom during a meeting; that Caldbeck made a proposition about having an open relationship; and that Caldbeck grabbed a woman’s thigh under the table of a bar during a meeting.
Yep. Just pleasantries.
Il n'y a pas de Planet B.
He didn't abuse his position as employer because he's not their employer. He's a guy making passes at women, and they reject him. Any inability to handle the social awkwardness of that is their issue to be dealt with by them getting a thicker skin.
But then this is just whineyness here. They're not actually doing anything except complaining about his annoying passes at them. The equivalent of telling the wife about a husbands infidelities. So he should also shake it off as socially awkward.
Have you ever made a pass at a women and she's rejected? Has the subsequent relationship been very very awkward. The answer is yes for every man in the world.
You may have a point.... in other less advanced cultures, the leader of the country may not condone grabbing women by the pussy.
There's no need for proof. He has admitted it. Read the story again - it's been updated. So much for your racist powers of deduction.
"Transparent" is a shit show that trades on every stereotype going. A man in drag is NOT a transsexual.
What the fuck is that supposed to mean? "I accuse you of not being wanted...by me."
Sexual harassment is a thing.
Sexual molestation is a thing.
Sexual assault is a thing.
Is "unwanted advances" supposed be a thing?
I don't know what he did, but if it was wrong, they should rephrase because "unwanted advances" makes it sound like all he did was make a pass at them and get shot down.
I had a co-worker get fired for
He: "Would you like to have dinner?
She: "No."
He: "Oh. Ok. Thank you."
Very respectfully delivered - by that I mean the "Thank you" wasn't sarcastic. I didn't think that was at all inappropriate but HR took a dim view of it. They were the same level, not management to a subordinate. (An HR person was in the same room when this happened, she didn't report it.)
Now, in this case, things were quite inappropriate in my view, and I only wish one of them had been like an old girl friend of mine, 5' nothin, 100 pounds soaking wet, and a sixth dyne belt. Not sure what she would have done, but she did have quite a temper on her.
Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.
We're not talking about rape. Nobody's accused him of that.
What he's accused of is making advances towards women over whom he exercised some form of power. If you don't understand why that's wrong, then you're part of the problem.
Given the fact he's already resigned his position and published a not-quite-apology/not-quite-admission, it would seem that *the allegations that were actually made* have some basis in fact.
Il n'y a pas de Planet B.
3 comments, all critical of the women for complaining.
Those sounds mostly like anons but you are right that there are some men on slashdot that seem to be uncomfortable with the prospect of working side-by-side with women. I condemn them and their old world view.
whether it's about pay,
muh wage gap?
sexual harassment, discrimination in its many forms
It's true that the world is far from perfect but I try to work every day to improve it when and where I can. However, the reality is that the business world is structured in a way that is most beneficial to the company rather than the employees of the company itself. This is the nature of capitalism: a self-optimizing system with an eternal greed and a total indifference to consequences of it's actions.
and then you wonder why your cubby-farm mates are almost all dudes.
I am under no illusions about why that is but it does not align with your narrative.
Anons need not reply. Questions end with a question mark.
Anyone with experience of Asian cultures would know to take their accusations with a very large bag of salt.
Anyone with experience of Asian cultures would recognise your prejudice from about 10,000 li away.
Il n'y a pas de Planet B.
I should be very clear. I got a divorce, years ago, because I kept sticking my dick in my secretary. There were multiples.
However...
If you're going to penis an underling, ensure that they know their job is NOT dependent on their agreement to participate. In fact, most of the times, they initiated the behavior that led to my sticking my penis in them.
It does get awkward if the breakup goes poorly. It's probably a good idea to live your life exactly opposite of the way I have led mine. Do not penis your secretary... You'll get a divorce and it makes the office awkward. Also, there are probably some ethical concerns.
Actually, Imma post this as AC.
I think that you will find that that isn't true any more. Today (and perhaps always) the business world is structured in a way that is most beneficial to the CEOs of large companies rather than any other group.
The real "Libtards" are the Libertarians!
How about, "Don't go looking for honey where you get your money"?
Il n'y a pas de Planet B.
These were female entrepreneurs in the SF Bay Area seeking VC funding. They are mostly Asian.
Disclaimer: I am married to a female entrepreneur in the SF Bay Area. She has never sought VC funding, but she is Asian.
What do you call a man who abuses his power?
Il n'y a pas de Planet B.
NONE of them have accused him of abusing his VC relationship (the "unequal power relationship") to demand sex with them, they're accusing him of simply making unwanted passes.
This, too, misses the point, which is: The fact that he made the passes at all, in that setting, was not "fine but socially awkward", it was an abuse of his position.
Il n'y a pas de Planet B.
... from TFA:
On the latter point you only have to look at recent goings on at a company like Uber [and this] to understand where such concerns are coming from.
It little behooves the best of us to comment on the rest of us.
Literally Hitler?
Ezekiel 23:20
3 comments, all critical of the women for complaining.
Those sounds mostly like anons but you are right that there are some men on slashdot that seem to be uncomfortable with the prospect of working side-by-side with women. I condemn them and their old world view.
And you know why? Because increasingly, if I meet a jerkass man in my workplace then there's so much he can do, AND I can fight back, but if I meet a jerkass woman in a workplace then all she has to do is wrongly accuse me of sexual harassment, and presumption of innocence goes right out of the window, as does any need to provide any actual evidence, even if I avoid being thrown right into jail I'll be fired and unhireable. And possibly lynched by an angry SJW mob if she generates enough attention. Just for not tiptoeing the line for some alpha bitch.
But how do you know it is unwanted until you try? And that advance could be a simple, "Care to go grab a quick lunch?" or "Can I get you a cup of coffee while I am out, since I am headed to the break room anyway?"
If she says no, then suddenly that can be considered an unwanted advance. Sometimes I think that the WOPR had it right...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
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We need to apply the old common sense principal espoused long ago in a science fiction novel:
"Try not to bother the other person. And if you are the other person, try not to be bothered too easily."
Certainly, don't make unwanted or offensive advances. But don't take casual conversation or an informal invitation to lunch as an automatic offense, either.
This guy seemed to go well beyond that, and that's not okay.
But what ever happened to the seemingly simple concept of mutual respect?
Oh come on, Silicon Valley is libertarian central. You're thinking of Berkeley.
Senator? Mr President? Your Honor? I give up, can I have a hint?
And that's why I will never work for a company that has a woman at a C level. They blame everyone else besides themselves.
Although I can hardly agree with this, if it were true, they would have Hillary as a role model.
Watching the Silicon Valley startup scene is like watching a bunch of immature, wealthy high school kids: incapable of dealing with their sexuality, incapable of relating to each other professionally or personally, throwing temper tantrums, and running to mommy and daddy when things don't go the way they want to.
I guess the saving grace is that, at this rate, they aren't going to reproduce much.
Unfortunately, that's not sufficient, because if your unmarried, sex-crazed 30-something CEO hits on your feminist 20-something radical, your job is still at risk.
A better rule is to simply avoid workplaces with large numbers of millennials, feminists, and progressives, and instead look for companies where most employees are older, professional, and slightly conservative.
when he first started some overly ambitious women fucked him for capital, and then he started expecting it. this is usually how these guys get these weird entitled ideas. doesn't excuse it, just saying from my own experience, some women will fuck you hoping to get favors, and if you're young and naive you don't handle it properly. no excusing him though, anyone with a basic education knows this is unacceptable.
Why do YOU think?
"Transparent" is a shit show that trades on every stereotype going. A man in drag is NOT a transsexual.
3 comments, all critical of the women for complaining. So you're all okay with sexual harassment and discrimination by sex when it happens to women. You guys are like a broken AI - predictable responses that could be churned out by a bot. Or just cut-n-paste whole threads from previous discussions, because it's always the same, whether it's about pay, sexual harassment, discrimination in its many forms -
I see you're doing the classic project. These feminist-themed topics are always very predictable like a broken AI. Was the a man involved? He was bad and wrong. Was there any kind of sexual tension involved? Bad and wrong, women should not be involved in sex ever. That's the feminist narrative.
and then you wonder why your cubby-farm mates are almost all dudes.
Women chose professions based on social status, a group of people constantly pushing "computers are bad for women" is not in any way interested in women actually working in the field. They're interesting in keeping women out of it. Actually real actual women (not fake feminist straw-women) chose environments with what feminists define as "harrassment" as vastly preferrable to boring coding working behind a computer. Sales environments are far far more aggressive and obnoxious, but given it an an option, women vastly prefer to do that rather than dry computer work. The pathological need to drive minor social conflict into hysteria only benefits the employers who prefer their employees to be sexless lifeless drones.
Maybe he felt he could try a socially awkward pass because the women were flirting with him? I wish we could get women penalized for flirting with us. Women can flirt and flirt and you can't say shit. Put your fucking tits back in your shirt, stop sucking on your fucking fingernail, and get some pants that don't show your fucking thong.
"it was an abuse of his position"
You don't get to define that.
The law defines that. Outside of the law, there are employee behavior rules that define that.
It is really very simple. His unprofessional conduct is an abuse of his employer's trust, implicitly dangling other people's money (the VC fund monies) in front of women as a means to manipulate them into bed with him. Caldbeck did not resign because he cared about being badmouthed by a bunch of women. He resigned because the writing was on the wall that "too much truth" would soon fall into the lap of his boss, and Binary Capital would conclude he was an unnecessary hassle.
We could probably use some training on this. Judgement of your own actions isn't easy especially in an area that you aren't good at. A lot of guys that cross the line in dating don't intend to and don't know they are doing it until they are called out. If this is the case here I actually respect the guy for admitting what he did was wrong instead of denying it or arguing it wasn't wrong. Asking a coworker out even your boss isn't wrong as long as it is done with out putting pressure on the other person.* Men need to know when they are pressing a woman to hard or using any form of power over a woman. (yes, I'm generalizing). And women, definitely need to know when they are acting like a herd, and pushing each other to do ever more and more harassing things to some guy they have collectively decided to victimize.
*I have a friend who is marrying her old boss and she's thrilled. She tall, beautiful and crazy strong, so most men are terrified of her.
If you really need to work in an environment where there are no dating prospects to feel comfortable, it is a safe bet the problem is you.
Corporate espionage strategists have found a weakness in the public mindset that they harp on whenever they get the chance.
Just stir up a "women's rights" fervor and watch as companies defying the status quo crumble.
Standing by to be modded down by the naive bleeding hearts who love gossip more than rational thought.
Advances are always unwanted. ... go on.
Advances are made in order to know whether the other party is available and willing to
Maybe you meant "unexpected", "unsolicited" or "unpleasant".
But not "unwanted"!
Sent as ripples into the electromagnetic field. No single photon has been harmed in the process.
Apparently, you can't read.
If you don't understand why that's wrong, then you're part of the problem
Translated:
If you're not with us, you're against us
and
it would seem that *the allegations that were actually made* have some basis in fact
Or he was forced to save any face he could because the backlash against this gossip was so strong.
Given that there is no evidence, no factual account, no story about specifics from either side, it's not that hard to figure the motive behind this if you don't get hooked by your misplaced emotions. Accuse some one and watch as they burn. This is why humanity invented law and order.
A Beta male pretending to be an Alpha male.
It is one thing to wield power, it is another thing to wield it artfully.
Unfortunately, that's not sufficient, because if your unmarried, sex-crazed 30-something CEO hits on your feminist 20-something radical, your job is still at risk.
Except that doesn't generally happen. Uber is still going. TFA's venture firm is still going. You seem awfully concerned about people doing wildly inappropriate things getting fired, because you seem to think it might get you fired. You're pretty much admitting to inappropriate behaviour there.
SJW n. One who posts facts.
But how do you know it is unwanted until you try?
If you really really don't know the answer, then you're best off not doing it until you figure it out. It is all entirely about context, so there are no context free rules to follow.
And that advance could be a simple, "Care to go grab a quick lunch?" or "Can I get you a cup of coffee while I am out, since I am headed to the break room anyway?"
Usually, neither of those are making an advance. But if you, say, never offered before, made an advance, got turned down and now offer twice a day, every day then yeah, you need to cut it out.
SJW n. One who posts facts.
I see you're doing the classic project. These feminist-themed topics are always very predictable like a broken AI. Was the a man involved? He was bad and wrong.
This topic really is playing out like a broken record and you're part of it.
1. Woman accuses someone of something.
2. Peanut gallery: lies! witch hunt! Why can't I hit on my co workers! I might get fired! Why are women so awful! It's not true! The poor guy was just being nice! It's all lies!
3. Guy admits it.
4. It's all lies! etc etc.
There is a strong contingent here that will never believe accounts of harassment of women no matter how strong the evidence. That same contingent will also bang on about how there is no sexism in IT. I guess that makes sense: if you refuse to believe any evidence of it, then to your eye there is none.
This is kind of annoying to everyone else.
SJW n. One who posts facts.
It's not the radicals trying to talk someone in their workplace into having sex with them for money or advancement here is it?
That's the problem, and an extremist evangelical Christian woman who believes a man should be the head of a family and her man should be obeyed at all times is going to be just as pissed off at such sleazebags as any feminist.
It seems like the only people who get accused of this sort of thing publicly are very rich, straight males; CEOs and VCs.
First, the dude admitted it. Second, only white males? I'm sure that Crosby chap got accused of much worse recently.
SJW n. One who posts facts.
The grabbing of the thigh I can see as warranting punishment. All the others in your post I don't unless simply asking a woman for sex is a crime.
Time is what keeps everything from happening all at once.
And that's exactly what a troll would say.
Il n'y a pas de Planet B.
That spray mark on the wall of the restroom stall isn't "art", dude.
Does it matter? He freely admits that he did wrong, and deserved the resulting unhappy consequences. He goes on to counsel the reader not to follow in his footsteps.
How likely are further attempts at analysis to provide any additional information or insight?
Il n'y a pas de Planet B.
The way to abuse this phenomenon is obvious to anyone with half a strategic brain. Those of us who see this need to band together at all costs, setting all differences aside, and withdraw from the sectors of society that are swayed by this insanity, forming enclaves to shield ourselves from any liability for not keeping our trouser snakes in our trousers during working hours and our families from finding out about it.
TFTFY.
Il n'y a pas de Planet B.
Not even present in the list of possible causes given in the Wikipedia article on the subject. Just sayin'.
Il n'y a pas de Planet B.
Asking for sex has become a crime...
...but only if you are a man, and only if the person you asked was a woman, and still only when that woman wants to make you hurt. At that point you are guilty of being a man, a crime you cannot defend yourself against. Men are, after all, all that is bad and wrong with the world. Women on the other hand are made from sugar and spice and everything nice.
"His name was James Damore."
3 comments, all critical of the women for complaining.
The first 2 comment I read were both from you, and both contained a fucking lie.
You fucking scumbag. Serious-fucking-ly. Someone is accused of a crime, and you come here and instead of trying to figure out what the truth is.... you start spreading lies about the person. Fuck off.
You arent even close to a good person, and thats putting you in the best light I can. In actuality you are a very bad person, you are harmful to functional society. Fuck off.
"His name was James Damore."
It is really very simple.
Yes, but how come you made it so complicated?
His unprofessional conduct...
Whats the simple definition of that? Oh thats right... its simply whatever you've decided is unprofessional.
...is an abuse of his employer's trust
implicitly dangling other people's money (the VC fund monies) in front of women as a means to manipulate them into bed with him.
Oh yes... except none of this happened. There was no sex. Not a single person is claiming that any sex happened. He didnt manipulate anyone... but here you are.. "simply" lying and saying that he did.
Caldbeck did not resign because he cared about being badmouthed by a bunch of women. He resigned because the writing was on the wall that "too much truth" would soon fall into the lap of his boss
Ah yes the "simple" thing of "too much truth" where you've decided that a crime that you have no evidence for and nobody else is claiming to have happened, is "simply" what its all about.
... and all so that you look like a justice warrior... fucking joke
Are you for real? You are a fucking joke. You are harmful to society in the form you have currently taken. A dishonest fuck working in a way that wi,ll prevent anyone from getting any justice
"His name was James Damore."
First, the dude admitted it.
Did he admit that the claims of the women were true? The answer is no, he didn't.
Why are you lying? How come you and Barbara are lying about it? My guess is that you just read Barbara's comments where He lied, and are now just repeating it, because the truth isnt part of your agenda today. You agenda is your personal appearance.
Guess what... you just became uglier.
"His name was James Damore."
Why are you lying? How come you and Barbara are lying about it?
your a moran
My guess is that you just read Barbara's comments where He lied,
Barbara's not a dude. The clue is in the name.
Anyway here's something for you:
https://techcrunch.com/2017/06...
Caldbeck says:
The past 24 hours have been the darkest of my life. I have made many mistakes over the course of my career, some of which were brought to light this week. To say I'm sorry about my behavior is a categorical understatement. Still, I need to say it: I am so, so sorry.
So yeah, he apologised for the stuff he did, so why are you denying his apology? What right do you have to speak for him?
Guess what... you just became uglier.
nah brah I'm ripped and beach ready
SJW n. One who posts facts.
Nobody has said he did anything criminal, so stop with the red herrings. What he did was highly inappropriate. The sort of stuff that gets people fired. The sort of stuff people get divorced over. You know, real world consequences.
"Transparent" is a shit show that trades on every stereotype going. A man in drag is NOT a transsexual.
No, I'm simply concerned about lying feminists, White knights, and a culture of victimhood. You know, the kind of unprofessional mindset you display.
It is not a problem to make an "unwelcome advance" in a social situation, toward a person you don't work with. It is a problem when you have authority or leverage over them. I don't understand why this is so hard to get.
Citations needed, thanks. Especially about Trump being racist, I dare you to find it.
Ask the judges who have ruled that his ban on Muslims discriminated by race.. Ask the judge he accused of being biased because he was a Mexican. Ask the justice department, which twice took his company to court for racial discrimination - Trump countersued for slander, then entered into a consent not to do it again - and did it again. here's a quote from the first hit from "donald trump racist"
In May, Trump implied that Gonzalo Curiel, the federal judge presiding over a class action suit against the for-profit Trump University, could not fairly hear the case because of his Mexican heritage.
“He’s a Mexican,” Trump told CNN. “We’re building a wall between here and Mexico. The answer is, he is giving us very unfair rulings — rulings that people can’t even believe.”
Curiel, it should be noted, is an American citizen who was born in Indiana. As a prosecutor in the late 1990s, he went after Mexican drug cartels, making him a target for assassination by a Tijuana drug lord.
Even members of Trump’s own party slammed the racist remarks.
“Claiming a person can’t do their job because of their race is sort of like the textbook definition of a racist comment,” House Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) said, though he clarified that he still endorsed Trump
The comments against Curiel didn’t sit well with the American public either. According to a YouGov poll released in June, 51 percent of those surveyed agreed that Trump’s comments were not only wrong, but also racist. Fifty-seven percent of Americans said Trump was wrong to complain against the judge, while just 20 percent said he was right to do so.
Racist, sexist bigot. That's Donald Trump.
"Transparent" is a shit show that trades on every stereotype going. A man in drag is NOT a transsexual.
No, feminists have their very own ways of using sex for advancement and money. Fowler and her boss are two sides of the same coin.
That's it? That's the very best you can do? At least back it up with some made-up facts ... bible quotes ... misquoted stats ... you know, like all the other (almost exclusively male) transphobes do.
Must really piss you off that women accept me as one of their own. They would see your comments as symptomatic of the misogyny that pervades society ... same as both this article and the comments slagging women for complaining. Well, at least you're somewhat on topic.
"Transparent" is a shit show that trades on every stereotype going. A man in drag is NOT a transsexual.
English, motherfucker. Do you speak it?
"Transparent" is a shit show that trades on every stereotype going. A man in drag is NOT a transsexual.
Women chose professions based on social status,
That isn't generally true of either sex, but thanks for the generalization.
"Transparent" is a shit show that trades on every stereotype going. A man in drag is NOT a transsexual.
Apparently, you treasure your precious victimhood.
3 comments, all critical of the women for complaining.
The first 2 comment I read were both from you, and both contained a fucking lie.
I don't post anonymously. I don't even hide behind a nym - my birth certificate says Barbara Jane Hudson. You can't say the same.
You fucking scumbag. Serious-fucking-ly. Someone is accused of a crime, and you come here and instead of trying to figure out what the truth is.... you start spreading lies about the person. Fuck off.
You fail reading comprehension. The women did NOT accuse him of a crime. You also might want to read the updated story.
You arent (sic) even close to a good person, and thats putting you in the best light I can. In actuality you are a very bad person, you are harmful to functional society. Fuck off.
The other volunteers at the food bank where I help out would probably strongly disagree with you. So would the 240 families that depended on our work last week. So would all the flood victims who've come in since the beginning of May (we had over 5,000 homes evacuated - many people lost everything). So would all the corporate and private donors who make it all possible.
Last week was the first time that I "slacked off" - took 3 days off in a row. One was for a doctor's appointment, one was for another visit to emergency (the 3rd this month) and one was because I needed the break. The week before it was 6 days - Sunday to Friday. Heavy labour, because those tons and tons of food don't just magically unload themselves, get sorted, shelved or boxed, or magically float into each family's weekly bin, or get loaded into cars and vans so that other volunteers can deliver them.
Earlier this month I sat in emergency for my birthday - shin splints (damage to the protective membrane of the bones in the lower legs). I had worked through the pain until Saturday. Back to emergency twice because some bug must have bitten me - there are two 5" swollen abscesses on my abdominal wall from the infection. Painful as all heck, and kind of gross when pus started leaking out, but I didn't stop working, because I saw first-hand the absolute need that's out there. I've talked to some of the victims. How can you not push yourself to your utmost after hearing how they've lost everything and are staying in temporary shelter. Or the ones who on top of that lost their jobs because their employer sustained heavy damage and may not be able to recover.
Or you could ask the guy who showed up looking for somewhere else to stay because the shelter wouldn't allow his pit bull in. He had the dog with him, and she's a real peach. I told him to crash in my spare bedroom until his place was safe to go back to. Him and his dog stayed 9 days (he says 10 ...)
There's probably over 1,000 people who would disagree with you. But enough about me. What have you done lately to justify your existence?
"Transparent" is a shit show that trades on every stereotype going. A man in drag is NOT a transsexual.
Way to miss the point. He abused his position by using it to try and coerce women into bed with him. Too cheap to spend his own money on hookers and crack like other Silly Valley burn-outs.
Also, what's with all you trolls saying he didn't commit a crime, as if somehow that makes this okay? None of them accused him of committing a crime. Though I'm pretty sure his daughters and wife may have some pretty strong opinions about him telling women he has an "open marriage."
Something doesn't have to be criminal to be offensive, incredibly stupid, and ill-advised.
"Transparent" is a shit show that trades on every stereotype going. A man in drag is NOT a transsexual.
Apparently you think men can't be trusted to stop thinking with their dicks. "I couldn't help myself. She shouldn't have dressed the way she did."
Indeed, men who let their little head override their big head shouldn't be working with women. This explains the self-organizing emergent culture that has made tech evolve into such a toxic place for women.
"Transparent" is a shit show that trades on every stereotype going. A man in drag is NOT a transsexual.
It's not about his money - it's about the investor's money. He's perfectly expendable. Problem was, he started treating it like it really was his money to use as a lever against women.
"Transparent" is a shit show that trades on every stereotype going. A man in drag is NOT a transsexual.
My point exactly. Yet, feminists insist on gender balance in every company instead of letting people sort themselves out based on who they want to work with.
And just like these Silicon Valley men are obviously driven by their immature sexual urges they have never learned to control, these Silicon Valley women are driven by immature female behaviors they have never learned to control either. Hilarity ensues.
Oracle seems to be doing pretty well with a female CEO.
Il n'y a pas de Planet B.
The social norm for *adults* is to exercise something known as "self-control", and to save the sexy stuff for after working hours.
Il n'y a pas de Planet B.
My experience is that, 9 time out of ten, when a woman tells a man that she's in an open relationship, she's telling the truth.
I've also found that, 9 times out of ten, when a man tells a woman that he's in an open relationship, that's only true as long as his wife or girlfriend doesn't know that he's been saying so to other women.
Of course, as always, YMMV.
Il n'y a pas de Planet B.
A boss hitting on a subordinate is always inappropriate, regardless of the genders. There's a power differential and the possibility of an implied quid pro quo, even if it isn't explicit. It's always a problem, even if it isn't couched in abusive context, because the subordinate may feel duress and the boss won't know whether that's the case or not.
Otherwise, unwelcome advances aren't harassment unless they become inappropriately persistent or obviously harassing.
If you want a vision of the future, imagine a youtube comments section scrolling - forever.
Except that "Not hitting on the hired help" is pretty much the antithesis of "unprofessional".
Il n'y a pas de Planet B.
A better rule is to simply avoid workplaces with large numbers of millennials, feminists, and progressives
You should definitely do that.
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SJW, n: "Someone I don't like, and by the way I'm a fuckwit" - AC
You forgot the most common one: "officer."
Guns don't kill people; Physics kills people! - John Lithgow as Dick Solomon on Third Rock From The Sun
You're confusing "libertarian" and "libertine". Billionaire leftists misbehaving isn't libertarianism.
Oh come on, Silicon Valley is libertarian central. You're thinking of Berkeley.
The legal system of the People's Republic of California still applies.
Well, yes, that's because women are far more privileged than men, so I don't really care about those differences.
That's no more mysterious than why the MBA is mostly black or elementary school teachers are mostly female: humans aren't born as blank slates.
We agree on that.
But there are many other ways of being unprofessional, and you display several of them.
I do! I'm just commenting from the sidelines on how dysfunctional these people are.
M: Hey, I find you attractive and would like to get to know you better. Would you like to go on a date sometime?
W: No, no thank you. I'm not interested.
M: OK .....time passes....
W: I was threatened and intimidated by his "Power" boo-hoo. Somebody pwotect me fwum da big bad man!
Whoosh. I meant, you should avoid those places because you suck and then the rest of us will be able to enjoy them without your toxic crap ruining it.
const int one = 65536; (Silvermoon, Texture.cs)
SJW, n: "Someone I don't like, and by the way I'm a fuckwit" - AC
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There are a lot of professional business situations where I don't need to spell out that something is inappropriate. There is a context and you should be aware of that context and behave appropriately without being prompted to do so.
“Common sense is not so common.” — Voltaire
It's perfectly obvious what you meant.
What "rest" would that be? Correct me if I'm wrong, but you seem to be living in a row house in a small British city playing with obsolete video games.
And the thing you are standing up for is a toxic stew of Silicon Valley "bros" and rabid progressives going at each other's throats.
I'm quite proud not to be part of either the culture you actually come from, or the one you pretend to be part of.
Oops, yes, need to type more slowly!
I agree you aren't trolling. And you are free to have your own opinion, even though it's total horseshit.
“Common sense is not so common.” — Voltaire
but you are right that there are some men on slashdot that seem to be uncomfortable with the prospect of working side-by-side with women. I condemn them and their old world view.
The old world view is that someone misusing authority to get sex should be strung up from the nearest tree.
The new world view is that most accusations should be randomly believed, and if adjudicated at all, that this should be done by some kangaroo court composed of basket weaving studies professors. Or by Facebook.
Seriously, you're by far the biggest asshole on slashdot, and it shows:
http://imgur.com/rDNRT2P
Anyways, here's something not at all made up that you struggled with earlier:
As fror the rest - what an idiot you are. Go look at pictures. The nerves are preserved as is a fair amount of tissue. And let's face it, it's the nerves and connected tissue that count. The parts that enable an erection are definitely not wanted, as they not only don't contribute, they detract from the final result.
Skin and a piece of the glans is all that remains, and it is NOT genitalia. Does the skin retain nerves? Yep, but again, this is part of a separate organ. A real vagina isn't skin, and is in fact a mucus membrane similar to the inside of your mouth and nose. There are two critical differences here:
- External skin found on the penis (and elsewhere) has a keratin layer, a mucus membrane does not.
- External skin poorly handles warm, moist environments, where it is increasingly susceptible to infection. A mucus membrane has its own mechanisms of fighting off infection in this environment that skin doesn't.
In fact, given how obese you are, I'm sure you've observed the later under your skin folds by your arms and in the middle of your stomach: The moist environment is prone to infection, up to and including bleeding. Absent of maintenance, your "neovagina" as you call it will actually harden over time to resist these infections. And no, putting this kind of skin into your pelvis doesn't cause it to change from regular skin to a mucus membrane, even with hormones.
Now THIS is the made up "fact".
Must really piss you off that women accept me as one of their own.
No, I'm simply concerned about lying feminists,
So. Much. Pearl. Clutching.
So why are you whining all over this story then? The feminits in question aren't lying: the dude they've accused has admitted to it. Ergo, they were telling the truth.
So, what you're actually worried about is people telling the truth. If the truth frightens you, then you are most certainly part of the problem and do not in any meaningful sense qualify as "professional".
SJW n. One who posts facts.
If you didn't quote selectively, it would perhaps make more sense to you.
"The truth" is that both "the dude" and the women behaved unprofessionally.
Yes, but how come you made it so complicated?
No, it is not complicated at all. Some posters are throwing up smoke and mirrors to make it sound complicated, so that they can imply that Caldbeck is entitled to "rights" that do not exist, and whine about it.
His unprofessional conduct...
Whats the simple definition of that? Oh thats right... its simply whatever you've decided is unprofessional.
As a practical matter it is very simple. Your opinion does not matter. My opinion does not matter. Caldbeck's opinion does not matter. The six accusers' opinion does not matter. What matters is the opinion of Caldbeck's boss at Binary Capital.
Unless Caldbeck has specific language in his contract about termination conditions, his boss could have strolled over to HR, said that s/he had "lost confidence in Calbeck", and HR would put together the paperwork for dismissal without cause (since CA is an at will employment state). Caldbeck has no right to demand a reason for his job ending at all.
Reading between the lines, Caldbeck probably saw the writing on the wall and realized that resignation was the least bad path.
Everything else you have to say is just smoke and mirrors, and not worthy of comment, because you are too dishonest and dumb to make a logical point.
A quick aside, and then back on topic. Male-to-female sex reassignment surgery has one of the best percentages of positive outcomes going. And there are plenty of surgeries that are far more complicated. It's done in private clinics, not hospitals. It's classified as plastic surgery.
Amazing how many posts against women this article has generated. All women - xx and xy. Guess we're more like genetic women than you want to admit, since your misogyny includes us.
Now more on topic - if the majority of responses are misogynistic, why? Is the stereotype of the toxic male tech culture true? And if it is true, why is it that way? Was it inevitable, or did something happen to cause it?
These are questions that need to be answered or we're just going to see this whole mess repeated over and over. Or to simplify - what drives people to hate others who are not like them? What makes them xenophobic, or racist, or misogynistic, or disliking people who are worse off then them, or have a different religion (or no religion)?
- or to make the question more specific to this particular discussion -
The comments have shown that people will continue to defend this guys behaviour well after he himself said it was wrong. Why do people do that? There's more at work here than meets the eye. Personally, I think it's because many people suffer from a rigidity of thought - once they form an idea, facts that discredit that idea are more easily ignored. Can this illogical, dysfunctional behaviour be diagnosed and treated, short of intensive education? Was there some advantage to having this trait at some point in human evolution?
"Transparent" is a shit show that trades on every stereotype going. A man in drag is NOT a transsexual.
Here's what I don't get - and it applies to all the men slagging all the women
1. Why do you think you know our experiences better than we do?
2. What do you get out of it?
3. Why is our sense of autonomy and safety not important to you?
4. Why do you persist in saying that these women's experiences aren't valid?
5. Why are you by your actions providing encouragement for denying the validity of women's experiences?
6. Why is offending women okay?
7. Why do you hear but not listen when women talk?
As for me:
8. Would you rather I be dishonest about who I am?
9. Why do you think you know me better than I myself do?
Food for thought ...
"Transparent" is a shit show that trades on every stereotype going. A man in drag is NOT a transsexual.
I'm certainly not okay with it. It's stupid, a Sisyphean task. Even after the guy has said that it's wrong to use power to get sex, and that he's done exactly that, people still attack the women (and many attack all women) and defend the guy instead of admiring the courage it took to own it instead of continuing the denial.
The libertarian bent, all the other crap - what happened to these people that made them so broken? Personally, I suspect it may be that so many of the tech leaders are fairly sociopathic, and they are unconsciously learned what they see - if you want to be successful, treat people like objects - to be disposed of when their usefulness ends - it doesn't matter as long as they get theirs.
There's been a lot of objectification of women in this thread - it's emblematic of the problem.
"Transparent" is a shit show that trades on every stereotype going. A man in drag is NOT a transsexual.
And that's why I will never work for a company that has a woman at a C level. They blame everyone else besides themselves.
Male C-level folks do it too. Ever hear of the expression "shit runs downhill?" We've all had bosses who make serious errors of judgement against our better advice, then when the crap hits the fan it's not their fault. And if you disagree your days are numbered, even if you have all the proof in the world, because "you're a troublemaker who doesn't respect authority."
"Transparent" is a shit show that trades on every stereotype going. A man in drag is NOT a transsexual.
Or men could just learn to control their urges. Why is that such a radical thought?
"Transparent" is a shit show that trades on every stereotype going. A man in drag is NOT a transsexual.
I'm all for it. Unfortunately, that's hard to do in an environment in which large numbers of people claim that gender is merely a social construct and pretend that women and men are interchangeable.
And, of course, the problem isn't just that men fail to control their urges, it's that women fail to control their urges just as much.
"The truth" is that both "the dude" and the women behaved unprofessionally.
Nope, the dude behaved very unprofessionally, the women behaved reasonably. The only reason you're calling them unprofessional, it appears, is because you're petrified of the same sort of thing happening to you.
here's a free bit of advice: stop behaving unprofessionally and you'll be fine.
SJW n. One who posts facts.
LOL! You must be an idiot. No it isn't only if you are a man - women have been found guilty of harassing (and even rape! Oh how strange!) men and women alike.
The rest of your idiotic ramblings you can put back where it came from - your ass. I guess that's where you keep your brain too?
Safe, but wrong.
I've had welcome and unwelcome advances while working in a bar. Dealt with all of them with courtesy and politeness, even the homosexual ones.
What do you expect from anything posted on an Internet forum? People are generally assholes when they have no real risk of accountability. You should know - your claims that most transsexuals are mentally ill is just one example, one that really pisses me of given the source.
Writing blog posts about how awful your past employer was is not professional behavior, not matter whether the reason was bad pay, homophobia, or a horny boss.
Good advice. You should heed it since you obviously have trouble with it.
But you haven't been working in large organizations anyway, have you?
[At a faculty meeting about sexual harassment:] "...we were handed a printed list of 'guidelines.' Number one on the list was: 'Do not make unwanted sexual advances.' Someone demanded querulously from the back, 'But how do you know they're unwanted until you try?' (Okay, it was me.) Our leader, David, seemed oddly flummoxed by the question... --Laura Kipnis, "Men: Notes From An Ongoing Investigation" (Henry Hold, 2014)
This complaint would make sense if it wasn't more or less the end of every moderately successful woman's career to make allegations of sexual discrimination or harassment against their company. Even if they're believed, and successful in promoting change, they endure hell and end up having severe problems getting rehired. Look at the woman who "brought down" Uber's CEO just as a basic example, and we pretty much all know Uber is a shithole and knew it before she said anything.
You are not alone. This is not normal. None of this is normal.
How does a person know the advances are unwanted unless they first make the advances?
The type of cell changes over time when it's transformed into a neovagina. It's really quite amazing. But don't let facts stop you from expressing your transphobia.
As for acceptance by other women, haven't you noticed that the ones doing the attacking, both here and in the news media, are almost exclusively male? And that it's pretty much exclusively directed at m2f twomen? Don't hear anyone of either sex complaining about f2m men now, do you?
Now, back on topic - which you seem never to want to do
Most of the comments to this article show, even after the guy admitted he was trying to leverage his position for sex, and after he apologized, many of the guys here kept defending him and blaming the women, going so far as to attribute motives when there's no evidence that they possess the power of clairvoyance or mind-reading abilities.
This further demonstrates the rampant misogyny in IT. That's the message that's being sent out to every woman who reads this site. And the message to men is not to try to defend women, because then you're just a pussy yourself.
This is why the thread is entitled "Expected slashdot post-2000 response". It''s when slashdot became overrun with web monkeys who think they can code and that their shit doesn't stink. What's dismissed as SJW behaviour here now used to be considered normal. Fortunately, it still is for a large portion of the population.
"Transparent" is a shit show that trades on every stereotype going. A man in drag is NOT a transsexual.
The whole "gender (identity) is a social construct" is definitely bs. The sense of which sex you are is innate. It's just how it's expressed that changes with society, and that's kind of to be expected.
"Transparent" is a shit show that trades on every stereotype going. A man in drag is NOT a transsexual.
I said that many transsexuals are dysfunctional. That's a fact that is easily verified by looking at the rate of HIV/AIDS infections - the highest numbers of any demographic in the world. Extremely high rates of participation in the sex industry. And plenty of anxiety and depression over how the rest of the world treats us (which drops to almost normal levels with proper treatment).
It's as if many (most?) of use went through life without picking up a single job skill, so spreading their legs or butt-cheeks is the only alternative they can think of.
How is it wrong to point out that there are problems? We can't address them if we don't first acknowledge they exist. At some point we have to clean up our own shit.
"Transparent" is a shit show that trades on every stereotype going. A man in drag is NOT a transsexual.
So anyone telling the truth and putting their name to it is "smug"? My original comment was accurate. Your response was a blatant lie. And you don't even offer any proof for your lies, because you can't. Everyone knows I don't post anonymously. The editors are free to check the logs, they'll say the same thing.
So, while I was out helping get my corner of the world back on track, what did you do? Oh, right, NOTHING except lie.
I can't wait until anonymity disappears from the internet and everyone has to stand by everything they post, same as in real life you have to stand behind everything you say and do. Shit-posters like you will have to learn how to think critically. But since you obviously can't or you'd already be doing it ...
"Transparent" is a shit show that trades on every stereotype going. A man in drag is NOT a transsexual.