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Obama Authorized a Secret Cyber Operation Against Russia, Says Report (engadget.com)
Jessica Conditt reports via Engadget: President Barack Obama learned of Russia's attempts to hack U.S. election systems in early August 2016, and as intelligence mounted over the following months, the White House deployed secrecy protocols it hadn't used since the 2011 raid on Osama bin Laden's compound, according to a report by The Washington Post. Apparently, one of the covert programs Obama, the CIA, NSA and other intelligence groups eventually put together was a new kind of cyber operation that places remotely triggered "implants" in critical Russian networks, ready for the U.S. to deploy in the event of a pre-emptive attack. The downed Russian networks "would cause them pain and discomfort," a former U.S. official told The Post. The report says CIA director John Brennan, Obama and other officials had at least four "blunt" conversations with Russian officials about its cyber intrusions beginning August 4th. Obama confronted Vladimir Putin in person during a meeting of world leaders in China this past September, the report says, and his administration even sent Russia a warning through a secure channel originally designed to help the two countries avoid a nuclear strike. Moscow apparently responded one week later -- after the U.S. election -- denying the accusation.
Or phishing the Putin?
Seems like Obama tried to start an incident with Russia. Naturally, the Russians aren't too fond of Democrats, so it's entirely possible that this spurred them on to try to ensure Trump won. Seems like Obama may be responsible for the Russians meddling in the election. Obama appears to have sabotaged the Democrats' chances of winning.
our elections could be hacked which is what he said. Was he lying?
NT
Switch to paper ballots.
But really, the only people proven to attempt to hack the election was the DNC, but we don't talk about the content of the emails, do we?
If these sources really knew something, they wouldn't blabbing because they'd be tracked down and jailed.
Maybe 60 years from now, it'll be made public, but I am very skeptical to the accuracy of this report.
It's pretty clear at this point that Russia hacked the election. Hopefully the Supreme Court can fix this by appointing Hillary Clinton president (she won the popular vote, so most people agree she deserves it) and putting Trump in jail for collusion with Russia and treason.
There was just an article about Russia now requiring major US companies to be vetted. Russia now has access to these companies "secrets" as the articles suggested. Nice going, dumbo!
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I guess it goes to the same garbage pile with "Russian economy is in tatters" and "Russia is isolated" that Obama claimed.
Why should I believe any of this crap?
Obama had shown himself to be a lying weasel.
Trump isn't afraid to tell the truth.
It will be good for everyone, even the ones that complain.
So, why didn't we hear about this months ago, before Trump asked?
I heard from anonymous former top Obama officials and intelligence officers that they faked the whole thing. Who are any of you to question US intelligence?
cloudfront is hosting a tor server, is it?
“They are a smaller country. They are a weaker country. Their economy doesn’t produce anything that anybody wants to buy, except oil and gas and arms.”
Yet they successfully complete a beheading strike against the USA. Using the same divide and conquer they used against Ukraine and Georgia.
At the end of the day, the Republicans will rally around Trump, because he'll sign all their bills no matter what crap they write in them. And they'll do deals with him, to get their bills signed.
Look at the new package of Russian sanctions agreed in the Senate. They want to defend USA elections from further Russian attack in future elections. That package will never get signed as is, because they also want their health care bill signed. He'll trade with them, so it will be modified.
And they'll do that trade. Party before country.
Trump reopened those two spy bases in the USA, and there was no a whisper of objection from the RNC.
Trump's a disaster. His supporters are stupid.
...if Russia hacked the election and they knew about it more than 6 months prior...
WHY DID THEY NOT TELL THE PUBLIC?
Think about that. If it was such a threat to our elections, why wouldn't you let us know? If this was Trump, the media would be ripping their hearts out and slapping them on the table while screaming "COLLUSION!" for not telling us.
How many fucking Russian trolls are working this site?! 24 troll posts from anons before anyone gets a word in edgewise has to be a new record.
Anons need not reply. Questions end with a question mark.
A nice pair of 380cc silicon overfilled. He's so sexy now.
The Russians have won. They have made the world a cesspool of distrust, greed, fear and hate.
Newt enjoys 5 year old boys!
So the news media gives away the goods and the Russians look for malware in their systems, find it, and return it with value added.
Real intelligent of the media.
OTH, it returns the Russian matter back to the Democrats.
I don't know if this story is true or if it's fake news, but just because a newspaper prints it doesn't mean it's definitely true. In Comey's testimony under oath, he said "There have been many, many stories purportedly based on classified information about — well, about lots of stuff, but especially about Russia, that are just dead wrong."
The all-Democratic city council in suburban White Plains, N.Y., gave its party chairperson a six-figure judicial seat despite the fact that she is too obese to climb the three steps to the bench.
City judge Elizabeth Shollenberger, who suffers from a digestive disorder and obesity, was appointed to the $175,500-a-year job in December and has since disgusted her colleagues with gastrointestinal issues.
“She would come in and we would see the diarrhea running down her leg and to the floor,” one court worker told the NY Post. “She would soil the chair and then ask for a new one.”
Shollenberger further dismayed her colleagues by displaying “complete arrogance” following the embarrassing incidents.
“She would just say, ‘There is a mess over there. I think someone should clean it up,'” a court source told the NY Post.
Diarrhea Judge
More fake news from the anti-American financialist puppets.
From the story presented in the links. ... specific instructions on the operation’s audacious objectives" .... intelligence services"? ..." ... was working to elect ... " ... through cyber-forensics"
"The intelligence captured
Why would anyone interesting risk talking over any insecure network?
Who talks on the phone or sends interesting orders down a network the USA sold another nation? Or any network that is at risk by the GCHQ, NSA or CIA?
"Hackers with ties to
What ties? The data walked out thanks to a domestic staff member.
"To guard against leaks, subsequent meetings in the Situation Room followed the same protocols as planning sessions for the
We are really reading about this secret online so soon?
"that
People all over the USA went to free elections and voted for a candidate they wanted and who could give great speeches in their states.
Want to win a US election? Find a presentable candidate who has the energy and charm to win in more states.
Re ' It was a case that took almost no time to solve, traced to the
Nations that have such easy to find malware code litter issues don't hack.
An ip range, time of day, malware thats been in the wild for years and is in use by many people is not "cyber-forensics".
Any language use can be left as a fake trail for private sector "cyber-forensics" to find.
The US efforts showed "Marble" libraries include code used to obfuscate " with the add foreign languages option(4/3/2017)
https://arstechnica.com/securi...
Re "... is a remarkably elusive target." "extreme precautions to guard against surveillance" but we just had " specific instructions on the operation’s audacious objectives"?
Funny how the story has the order that really needed to be kept more secret been transmitted down the not very secure US export grade hardware network?
Someone in the USA walked out with some documents and gave it to the waiting media.
The US saw another Pentagon Papers. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
"Julian Assange: 'A lot more material' coming on US elections" (July 27, 2016)
http://edition.cnn.com/2016/07...
""Perhaps one day the source or sources will step forward and that might be an interesting moment some people may have egg on their faces."
" a clandestine hand-off in a wooded area near American University with one of the email sources "
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/new...
"The leakers' motivation was 'disgust at the corruption..."
Domestic spying is now "Benign Information Gathering"
Jesus Christ. How many times does the WaPo have to put up some breathless "Anonymous sources say that Trump is secretly Putin's bitch, we got him this time guys really!" story before we stop believing this crap?
Podesta. Works. For. The. WaPo. You know, this Podesta? Hillary's Campaign Chair?
These articles are DNC Cointelpro. The Liberal version of Fox News and Breitbart. Nothing more, nothing less. Stop giving them attention.
I have been told by smart people with degrees that GODbama could do no wrong! Does this mean... We fired the first shot? I cannot live with this. Goodbye. Since I have been instructed by smart people with degrees that guns are bad, I will fill my flat with gas and detonate it. It will kill some other tenants but they are deplorables who might have voted for Trump so I must hate and desire to kill them, so smart people with degrees have told me. #iamwithher, always.
Wait, so are you implying that it's the Russians who hate systemd?
So because Russia was also doing what the US has been doing for decades to pretty much any country in the world that has elections, the USA committed an act of war by performing a pre-emptive cyber attack? Wow... these 'intelligence' agencies are kind of over paid for these weak insights. Also, we know about it, so it's a not so secret cyber operation. Wake up Amerika!
the U.S. attacks other countries, and spread lies... I hope at least the EU will wake up and shield themselves from U.S. attacks and inflences soon enough.
Does anyone know where to buy it? http://williamreview.com/socit...
http://williamreview.com/
How many fucking Russian trolls are working this site?! 24 troll posts from anons before anyone gets a word in edgewise has to be a new record.
A lot. I assume some are paid for it. I've noticed it for some time.
Or are Russians being coy? Not responding to a secure channel meant to prevent a nuclear war for months? And then responding with a denial? This is the kind of thing you do if want to do something that no one would believe you did. Reminds me of the episode of "The Practice" where a drug dealer who was certain he'd get caught came up to a cop and said "officer, I have drugs on me, please, arrest me." The judge didn't believe the cop when he used this as a justification for a search without a warrant. Except the drug dealer really did it. This is so absurd, I can't believe it happened and I can't believe WaPo would be dumb enough to make it up.
Any guest worker system is indistinguishable from indentured servitude.
OF course buried at the end of all that cheerleading is
"There were no meltdowns in the United States’ voting infrastructure on Nov. 8, no evidence of hacking-related fraud, crashing of electronic ballots or manipulation of vote counts."
Here are your palm-palms.
Putin and Russia didn't do shit. It's all a hoax to make Russia the enemy since they're running out of Middle Eastern countries to bomb, and also can't find any more friends in Europe to turn NATO into their little "everyone vs Russia" paradise. Crimea being invaded was also a hoax, they chose to leave Ukraine and return to the motherland.
The headline is a lie. The article is a careful manipulation of the truth.
It specifically contradicts the headline, but you have to read it.
Nothing more than propaganda.
The dailymail had a Human interest story about a cyclist who travelled the world recently. It 'reported' he only had serious concerns in Iran and Russia. What an astonishing coincidence. The two nations the Deep State (and slashdot) wants to demonise, 1984 style, and our poor cyclist had a bad time in both.
50% of the fake news stories on slashdot are either bigging up Israel or slagging off Iran or Russia. You don't have to ask what it was like living in nazi Germany in 1935- you are living it in America today. However the election of Trump and the collapse of the Conservative vote in the UK show that even the sheeple aren't fooled anymore.
But those of you idiots who voted for Clinton swallow ever lie hook, line and sinker. Your heroes are failed entertainers repurposed as front men for political propaganda shows dressed as 'satire'. Your equivalents in the 1970s would have been rock solid liberal anti-war types. But to your eternal shame you are pro-war neo-liberals of the same type that were the bedrock of the nazi party in pre-war Germany.
So Obama did nothing and its the Republican's fault?
Nice... Was the GOP's fault that the DNC did questionable fund-raising taking money from down ticket candidates to give it to Hillary?
Did the GOP force the WaPo and NYT to run stories by Hillary's campaign manager before printing them?
Did the GOP tell Boston Herald what days to run anti-Sanders stories so Hillary had a better chance of winning a primary?
Did the GOP feed Hillary debate questions before the debate?
We have ACTUAL evidence of election fraud, and its all from the DNC. Funny how there was "no evidence" of Russia interfering until AFTER Hillary lost. Just like there was "no evidence" of obstruction of justice until Comey was fired (he even said so under oath before).
I find it AMAZING at how bad Trump is AFTER he does something they don't like. Its almost as if they tell him what he needs to be doing or else, he ignores them, then they refute everything they had been saying before to make him look bad. The only person I see being honest and consistant at this point is Trump. Comey turned 180 degrees after he was fired, Obama went back on everything he said after Trump won, and still you won't admit the ONLY evidence of election rigging we have is from the DNC.
There is certainly enough evidence out now to conclude that the Russians made a coordinated attempt to influence the outcome of a US election. That included a massive disinformation campaign, that may have involved coordination with one or more right wing news outlets, and infiltration of at least some state, county and local voting systems. There is growing evidence that the Russians may have moved, or at least attempted to move, ground operatives into the country under temporary tech visas. There is a growing body of evidence that one or more members of the Trump campaign knew about the Russian involvement and may have assisted in coordinating the response. There is substantial suspicion that senior members of the Republican party knew about Russian intervention and either ignored the interference, discouraged investigations or actively assisted the Russians.
The very least of those should invalidate the entire election. Combined with voter suppression and gerrymandering, we have one party cheating and benefiting from that cheating and assistance from the Russian government. Anyone...a-n-y-o-n-e...okay with taking material support from a hostile foreign nation in an attempt to influence a US election is a traitor and should be treated as such.
We can't continue as a united nation with a party or group of people that cheats continuously. That's not taking the high road, that's codependency.
That's our life, the big wheel of shit. - The Fat Man, Blue Tango Salvage
He's the biggest pussy that's ever walked the earth. He just sucked his dick.
You realize the Clinton Email server was 2 years prior, right? And that was when she was Sec. of State, not running for office. I am almost betting that it was more than Russia that has those email. It is probably every country who has an intelligence agency has them. Stop trolling.
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The US had two choices for President. One of those with the D in front of their name was propped up by a corrupt Democratic party, and media outlets like the biased gossip rag sourced in TFA. WaPo, as with NYT, NBC, CNN, and countless other media outlets (sorry, I refuse to call them "news" since they aren't) stated flat out that they were going to "destroy Trump". That campaign started right after he was announced as the R candidate. Now source all of the "leaks", media coverage, and talking points of the DNC and it becomes clear that those same media outlets are simply a mouthpiece for the entrenched elitists in the D party.
The candidate that the D party put up was a corrupt politician, and we have known about their corruption since the 90s (if not sooner). Unless you want to say that she was a puppet for Russia since then, any claim of Russian meddling in her loss fails basic scrutiny.
That said, the R party has some similar problems with entrenched and questionable office holders. Trumps biggest selling points are A) he's not a well known connected (re. corrupted) politician. B) he talked about some well known problems and said he would fix them. One of which is exactly political corruption. (so did Obama, Bush, Clinton, Bush, but they _were_ politicians and demonstrated dishonesty).
Enough people in enough areas voted Trump for him to win. Look at the map for pity sake! I have yet to see anything that demonstrates Trump as a bad President, I hear hyperbole and fabricated narratives by the same corrupt media I mentioned at the start. I see biased opinion polls about his approval ratings, which amazingly seem to match the "Hillary is gonna win" polls which showed how great she was and how bad he was.
Long story short, I don't believe the majority of media any longer. WaPo has less credibility than CNN who has less credibility than the Pravda at this point.
-The wise argue that there are few absolutes, the fool argues that there are no probabilities.
I suppose this means what we all have known or at least suspected already - all parties do it.
It also means that instead of trying to prevent further damage by technical and organisational measures we invest in revenge. The fact that leaks for instance would not be so damaging for Clinton if she were honest and less corrupt is just another thing that is being missed.
This is OT but if main powers have not been engaged in acts of sabotage or at least espionage yet then the current authorization to do so against Russia combined with the hostile atmosphere will ensure the conflict in interwebs will continue and possibly escalate. I wonder where does that ends. It may be that we come to the point that not pressing big red button by Trump will be considered a treason.
You red sob's are screwed because its been going on since 1996! Just try alaunch, 60 of your cities will go up in smoke!
Another round of Fake News clickbait.
Seriously?
Then why didn't it happen when she was Secretary of State?
Almost did. To name just two:
Funding for the Arab Spring and Ukraine (AKA Russian "reset")
Syria can't be blamed directly on her, but she sure as shit started it (see e.g. Libya/Egypt)
How?
A time machine?