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Google Replaces Gchat With Hangouts Today (axios.com)
An anonymous reader shares a report: The day dreaded by stubborn office workers around the country has finally arrived. At some point today, Google will replace its Google Talk feature in Gmail -- known colloquially to most of the world as Gchat -- with Google Hangouts. The reasoning: Google's announcement of the switch back in March touts Hangouts' better features and integration with other Google products over the barebones Gchat, which launched way back in 2005.
Two more google services I'll never use!
Bite me. Maybe there's a reason people don't want to use $todays-messenger-from-google.
And I only mean Slackware in reference to the nerds on Slashdot.
Slack
(Stoot, we still don't forgive you for ending Glitch)
Too bad it contains a bunch of people I don't want to talk to over chat.
GTalk contained a specific list of contacts I cared to talk to over chat (like AIM/MSN before it).
I don't use hangouts, I don't like hangouts.
Everything since GTalk has been garbage.
What's the problem with wanting a low-RAM-footprint, standalone chat program, that I don't have to open up aRAM-guzzling web browser to access?
Big surprise, Google, not everybody spends every waking moment with your browser open (mostly because it's a RAM-guzzling, forced advertising dystopia.).
Seriously, the closest they have to a standalone application for hangouts is a plug-in for Chrome. Fuck Chrome. Why would I just use a browse whose entire purpose is to advertise to me and gather as much information about me as possible.
Firefox + Pidgin is where I'm at right now, but I'm still fuckered into using Hangouts through it because there isn't a good, truly cross-platform (I mean Windows/Linux/Mac/iOS/Android, all of them. Everything is either iOS/Android only or Windows/Mac/Linux only. WTF?) messenger that is worth a damn that I can get people to switch to.
I'm unimpressed to be quite honest. If an app is any good, a user will use it until something better comes along. Google can't understand that and they force users into their versions of whatever popular app exists. Google+ was an example of this kind of shakedown. It's terrible. Facebook is no better but Google+ was simply awful.
If something is good people will use it. Youtube is good so people use it all the time... but Youtube administrative causes a lot of users big trouble. Look at people who lose their revenue because some professional squatting company comes along and files bogus DCMAs against legitimate Youtube users who were merely applying the fair-use rules appropriately in the first place.
Google doesn't really care about you. They don't care about your audience or your beliefs or values. They just want to force their own profit margins and grow their garden of trust until the next big harvest.
The dangers of knowledge trigger emotional distress in human beings.
other than in Gmail on a desktop PC browser. why no search feature in the Hangouts app, Google? for some reason I thought you were supposed to be good at searching
Currently the XMPP server is still available (and can chat to Google Hangout users)
For now.
Let's hope that Google will at least maintain this access.
"Sufficiently advanced satire is indistinguishable from reality." - [Tips: 1DrYakQDKCQ6y52z6QbnkxHXAocMZJE61o ]
While I am not entirely happy with this move, my sincere hope is that Google will improve its YouTube app, both on desktop/Chrome and Android with addition of a feature that lets the video remain visible as I browse comments.
This isn't so hard.
I have submitted many requests for this but they just seem not to listen, sadly.
... still nobody uses it.
I still use Gchat because Google Voice integrates into it quite well, i can easily make calls, screen incoming,and manage contacts all in one place. It also has a nice and simple low resource usage chat feature, I really hope they change their mind or at least provide the same functions for voice in Hangouts. (last time I checked, 3 weeks ago, they didn't).
PPN
It's Google -- they'll change it again in a couple years.
Dear Slashdot: next time you want to mess with the site, add a rich-text editor for comments.
Seriously. Why would I want a fancy completely different web interface for every damn piece of functionality with companies like Google pulling together all the data in the background from their proprietary offerings?
Barebones stuff tends to be of the kind where I have the chance to use Emacs/Gnus as an interface and _actually_ get to work coherently with text on my _own_ computer rather than have somebody else pull the strings and decide just which strings I might get access to.
I mean beyond Gmail, the app store, and Android, I don't think I use anything else from Google beyond search.
I wouldn't use Android, but there really isn't anything better out there.
How long before they make gmail unusable in a browser, or even yet, force you to Inbox (shudders)
You want this. Why? Because Google wants you to want it. /logic
There is no XUL, only WebExtensions...
Indeed, I have dreaded this day.
No. Not so much,.
gtalk had a better UI, a smaller memory footprint, supported voice calls that didn't sound like ass.
I think it might have been my favorite desktop chat app.
Only luddites use APK
Hey retard, you already posted this.
Look, I used FB chat when it first came out, and then realized 90 percent of it was people not reading my FB post, so I stopped using it, other than for family and a few individuals.
Same will happen with Gchat and G hangout. I used Google circles, but they just get in the way.
Same take home message: Stop Being Pervy.
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Apk's outfoxes you. You blow your downmodpoints he reposts https://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=10788413&cid=54693095/. Why's the best you got a bogus downmod? You can't prove him validly technically wrong is why. Hahahahaha.
is the Video Chat feature as it simply works on droid. I have a tablet, my brother has a tablet, both have droid on them and both have Hangouts available. Simply put, it's a no brainer for us to video chat on our tablets along with any other family members that want to. Pretty nice and it's fucking stable on droid - forget Skype as MS keeps scewing with the clients (where's the latest for FreeBSD?)
Google's been treating Hangouts as the red-headed step-child now for a couple of years. They've more or less completely deprecated it on Android, where it's no longer either their SMS system (Messages) or their recommended apps for IM (Allo) or video chat (Duo.)
So... why NOW switch all GMail users to Hangouts? There's literally nothing in Hangouts that isn't being done by Google's own preferred alternatives to Hangouts.
Don't get me wrong, I kinda like Hangouts, and I was annoyed when they removed non-Google Voice SMS from it, but it still doesn't make sense: if you're going to deprecate an app, and Google is deprecating Hangouts, why force people to use it?
You are not alone. This is not normal. None of this is normal.
Hangouts was tolerable until they nuked Effects. The sad trombone was the unofficial meeting sound...
Hangout is one of the most ugly programs I have ever used. (yes I use the App on Android, and used to use it on iPad until it got discontinued (( for my iOS version? )) ...) ...
No idea what UI designers think, probably there was none
Why one is replacing a Jabber based communication system with a Hangout bullshit is beyond me.
Cost free eBook I read (by iBook/Kobo/Amazon/ObookO/Gutenberg etc.): "The Green Odyssey" by Philip Jose Farmer.
Look above everyone to see something that speaks like a racist Jar-Jar Binks
It should go and take its mincy little faggot balls somewhere else
Now watch as it threatens me
I bet it belongs to the Church of Scientology or would they even kick that crazy out
Out of the many chatting/messaging/video config things I have tried, by far I hated hangouts the worst. It always seemed to have problems, the UI I remember being really poor, and it just was not as effective as other things for team communication...
I can only imagine how many groups will be driven into the willing arms of Slack because of this.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
Look, APK is now posting to support himself because he is such a retard.
Hahaha apk outfoxed ya again! Ya blew yer downmodpoints. He'll just post again https://tech.slashdot.org/comm... u lose, loser and you're clearly the retard he outfoxes every time. Hahahaha!
I'm indifferent to this. I don't care. I have no stake in it. But I enjoy watching nerds raging and screaming and stomping their feet. It's so funny.
"Joogle" = Jewish Google.
Now you know that your 'security product' is written by a racist fuck.
Still waiting on Serviscope_minor to wake up to fucking reality and realize that Jessica Price isn't going to fuck him.
Screenshotted proof for you.
Still waiting on Serviscope_minor to wake up to fucking reality and realize that Jessica Price isn't going to fuck him.
Good job proving yourself a racist fuck, Alexander Kowalski.
Still waiting on Serviscope_minor to wake up to fucking reality and realize that Jessica Price isn't going to fuck him.
I've abandoned hangouts in favor of a better platform, Discord.
Look at Google's hiring criteria. Gee, They don't do well with social media? But the IQs are enormous! Hire based on social skills if you want to do social media.
=-+
... heard of it.
I have more Gmail accounts than Carter has little liver pills.
It little behooves the best of us to comment on the rest of us.
"as Vice President of one of the oldest mineralogical societies in California" - by Khyber ( 864651) on Saturday February 18, 2017 @11:53PM (#53894687)
SanQuentin prison breaking rockpile rocks != "minerological surveys" & you = criminal https://openpasts.com/PublicRecord/ALEX-MCQUOWN/1578057922825639/ or http://www.findmugshots.com/arrests/alex_marshall_mcquown_id_2334096.html/
R o T f L m A o @ U, Khyber - threatening judges & DA's? DUMB! Threatening me w/ lawsuits too? Well, where is it you penniless bullshitter https://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=10245269&cid=53924785/
Good luck against truth shown above - You're known as a criminal whacko!
APK
P.S.=> I wrote nothing about JEWS (whom I have zero against in TRUE jews, there's some in my bloodline & best pals have been TRUE jews - however, not what St. John called "the synagogue of Satan" in Pharisee Khazars Jesus kicked out of the temple) - only JOOgle!
Learn to read, jailbird probation boy - JEWS also aren't a race. Judaism is a RELIGION they follow you pitiful weak stupid moron, lol (racist? Not)... apk
"as Vice President of one of the oldest mineralogical societies in California" - by Khyber ( 864651) on Saturday February 18, 2017 @11:53PM (#53894687)
SanQuentin prison breaking rockpile rocks != "minerological surveys" & you = criminal https://openpasts.com/PublicRecord/ALEX-MCQUOWN/1578057922825639/ or http://www.findmugshots.com/arrests/alex_marshall_mcquown_id_2334096.html/
R o T f L m A o @ U, Khyber - threatening judges & DA's? DUMB! Threatening me w/ lawsuits too? Well, where is it you penniless bullshitter https://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=10245269&cid=53924785/
Good luck against truth shown above - You're known as a criminal whacko!
APK
P.S.=> I wrote zero about JEWS (whom I have zero against in TRUE jews, there's some in my bloodline & best pals have been TRUE jews - however, not what St. John called "the synagogue of Satan" in Pharisee Khazars Jesus kicked out of the temple) - only JOOgle!
Learn to read, jailbird probation boy - JEWS also aren't a race. Judaism is a RELIGION they follow you pitiful weak stupid moron, lol (racist? Not)... apk
I have not yet used the video/voice features they added to Slack, what's wrong with them?
To me that hardly matters as it's so easy to Skype/Facetime anyone as needed.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
Cease and desist your criminal actions immediately, APK. You are making people a 3rd party your violations of the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act!
"as Vice President of one of the oldest mineralogical societies in California" - by Khyber ( 864651) on Saturday February 18, 2017 @11:53PM (#53894687)
SanQuentin prison breaking rockpile rocks != "minerological surveys" & you = criminal https://openpasts.com/PublicRecord/ALEX-MCQUOWN/1578057922825639/ or http://www.findmugshots.com/arrests/alex_marshall_mcquown_id_2334096.html/
R o T f L m A o @ U, Khyber - threatening judges & DA's? DUMB! Threatening me w/ lawsuits too? Well, where is it you penniless bullshitter https://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=10245269&cid=53924785/
Good luck against truth shown above - You're known as a criminal whacko!
APK
P.S.=> I wrote zero about JEWS (whom I have zero against in TRUE jews, there's some in my bloodline & best pals have been TRUE jews - however, not what St. John called "the synagogue of Satan" in Pharisee Khazars Jesus kicked out of the temple) - only JOOgle!
Learn to read, jailbird probation boy - JEWS also aren't a race. Judaism is a RELIGION they follow you pitiful weak stupid moron, lol (racist? Not)... apk
I much prefer Lync. My company changed hands for the 3rd time in 3 years and the new overlords have standardized on GOffice. Gosh I hate it. Google does have better mail search, but just about everything else is better in Microsoft's products. I really hate the calendar app and find Outlook's calendar to be so much better.
Can't we just agree to use signal? Text, voice, video, encryption, easy to use. Why do we stick with these inferior alternatives.
Cease your crap fraud playing wannabe attorney. Go sell your bullcrap someplace else.
I'm going to continue using the Host File Engine. Your software is well written, functional. The Host File Engine performs exactly as promised by mmell
his hosts program is actually pretty good by xenotransplant
his hosts tool is actually useful for those cases in which one does indeed want to locally block stuff outright while consuming minimum system resources by alexgieg
I've never tried to belittle (APK's) work, I've flat out said it's good by BronsCon
take a look at the APK hosts file engine by SuperKendall
APK is kinda right. I've tried his hosts file generating software. It works by bmo
I like your host file system by Karmashock
I find your hosts file admirable by vel-ex-tech
* My code's liked + recommended & hosted by Malwarebytes' hpHosts!
APK
P.S.=> See subject & answer the question "Forrest" (RUN, Forrest - RUN!!!) or are you going to 'downmod hide' it again? Everyone sees it stupid, lol... apk
I'm still waiting for them to use the name "Google Ghetto" for, uh, something.
Jews believe this about others they call goyim/gentiles: Jews = biggest racists of all (for which they "jew guilt" you for no less! They're hypocrites known as thieves all thru history or were Argentines in the 1940 under Perrone, Spanish inquistion, France (1306), Egypt (despoiled/robbed by jews), Arabs (pre & post 1948), England (1330 Edward longshanks), Romans under titus, Russia pogroms and Germany who got rid of them from their nations nazi german's too? No:
1. Sanhedrin 59a: "Murdering Goyim is like killing a wild animal."
2. Abodah Zara 26b: "Even the best of the Gentiles should be killed."
3. Sanhedrin 59a: "A goy (Gentile) who pries into The Law (Talmud) is guilty of death."
4. Yebhamoth 11b: "Sexual intercourse with a little girl is permitted if she is three years of age."
5. Schabouth Hag. 6d: "Jews may swear falsely by use of subterfuge wording."
6. Hilkkoth Akum X1: "Do not save Goyim in danger of death."
7. Hilkkoth Akum X1: "Show no mercy to the Goyim."
8. Choschen Hamm 388, 15: "If it can be proven that someone has given the money of Israelites to the Goyim, a way must be found after prudent consideration to wipe him off the face of the earth."
9. Choschen Hamm 266,1: "A Jew may keep anything he finds which belongs to the Akum (Gentile). For he who returns lost property (to Gentiles) sins against the Law by increasing the power of the transgressors of the Law. It is praiseworthy, however, to return lost property if it is done to honor the name of God, namely, if by so doing, Christians will praise the Jews and look upon them as honorable people."
10. Szaaloth-Utszabot, The Book of Jore Dia 17: "A Jew should and must make a false oath when the Goyim asks if our books contain anything against them."
11. Baba Necia 114, 6: "The Jews are human beings, but the nations of the world are not human beings but beasts."
12. Simeon Haddarsen, fol. 56-D: "When the Messiah comes every Jew will have 2800 slaves."
13. Nidrasch Talpioth, p. 225-L: "Jehovah created the non-Jew in human form so that the Jew would not have to be served by beasts. The non-Jew is consequently an animal in human form, and condemned to serve the Jew day and night."
14. Aboda Sarah 37a: "A Gentile girl who is three years old can be violated."
15. Gad. Shas. 2:2: "A Jew may violate but not marry a non-Jewish girl."
16. Tosefta. Aboda Zara B, 5: "If a goy kills a goy or a Jew, he is responsible; but if a Jew kills a goy, he is NOT responsible."
17. Schulchan Aruch, Choszen Hamiszpat 388: "It is permitted to kill a Jewish denunciator everywhere. It is permitted to kill him even before he denounces."
18. Schulchan Aruch, Choszen Hamiszpat 348: "All property of other nations belongs to the Jewish nation, which, consequently, is entitled to seize upon it without any scruples."
19. Tosefta, Abda Zara VIII, 5: "How to interpret the word 'robbery.' A goy is forbidden to steal, rob, or take women slaves, etc., from a goy or from a Jew. But a Jew is NOT forbidden to do all this to a goy."
20. Seph. Jp., 92, 1: "God has given the Jews power over the possessions and blood of all nations."
21. Schulchan Aruch, Choszen Hamiszpat 156: "When a Jew has a Gentile in his clutches, another Jew may go to the same Gentile, lend him money and in turn deceive him, so that the Gentile shall be ruined. For the property of a Gentile, according to our law, belongs to no one, and the first Jew that passes has full right to seize it."
22. Schulchan Aruch, Johre Deah, 122: "A Jew is forbidden to drink from a glass of wine which a Gentile has touched, because the touch has made the wine unclean."
23. Nedarim 23b: "He who desires that none of his vows made during the year be valid, let him stand at the beginning of the year and declare, 'Every vow which I may make in the future shall be null'. His vows are then invalid."
Really nice people guess all nations are nazis (egypt "despoiling" robbing it, Romans under titus, russian pogro
Jews believe this about others they call goyim/gentiles: Jews = biggest racists of all (for which they "jew guilt" you for no less! They're hypocrites known as thieves all thru history or were Argentines in the 1940 under Perrone, Spanish inquistion, France (1306), Egypt (despoiled/robbed by jews), Arabs (pre & post 1948), England (1330 Edward longshanks), Romans under titus, Russia pogroms and Germany who got rid of them from their nations nazi german's too? No:
1. Sanhedrin 59a: "Murdering Goyim is like killing a wild animal."
2. Abodah Zara 26b: "Even the best of the Gentiles should be killed."
3. Sanhedrin 59a: "A goy (Gentile) who pries into The Law (Talmud) is guilty of death."
4. Yebhamoth 11b: "Sexual intercourse with a little girl is permitted if she is three years of age."
5. Schabouth Hag. 6d: "Jews may swear falsely by use of subterfuge wording."
6. Hilkkoth Akum X1: "Do not save Goyim in danger of death."
7. Hilkkoth Akum X1: "Show no mercy to the Goyim."
8. Choschen Hamm 388, 15: "If it can be proven that someone has given the money of Israelites to the Goyim, a way must be found after prudent consideration to wipe him off the face of the earth."
9. Choschen Hamm 266,1: "A Jew may keep anything he finds which belongs to the Akum (Gentile). For he who returns lost property (to Gentiles) sins against the Law by increasing the power of the transgressors of the Law. It is praiseworthy, however, to return lost property if it is done to honor the name of God, namely, if by so doing, Christians will praise the Jews and look upon them as honorable people."
10. Szaaloth-Utszabot, The Book of Jore Dia 17: "A Jew should and must make a false oath when the Goyim asks if our books contain anything against them."
11. Baba Necia 114, 6: "The Jews are human beings, but the nations of the world are not human beings but beasts."
12. Simeon Haddarsen, fol. 56-D: "When the Messiah comes every Jew will have 2800 slaves."
13. Nidrasch Talpioth, p. 225-L: "Jehovah created the non-Jew in human form so that the Jew would not have to be served by beasts. The non-Jew is consequently an animal in human form, and condemned to serve the Jew day and night."
14. Aboda Sarah 37a: "A Gentile girl who is three years old can be violated."
15. Gad. Shas. 2:2: "A Jew may violate but not marry a non-Jewish girl."
16. Tosefta. Aboda Zara B, 5: "If a goy kills a goy or a Jew, he is responsible; but if a Jew kills a goy, he is NOT responsible."
17. Schulchan Aruch, Choszen Hamiszpat 388: "It is permitted to kill a Jewish denunciator everywhere. It is permitted to kill him even before he denounces."
18. Schulchan Aruch, Choszen Hamiszpat 348: "All property of other nations belongs to the Jewish nation, which, consequently, is entitled to seize upon it without any scruples."
19. Tosefta, Abda Zara VIII, 5: "How to interpret the word 'robbery.' A goy is forbidden to steal, rob, or take women slaves, etc., from a goy or from a Jew. But a Jew is NOT forbidden to do all this to a goy."
20. Seph. Jp., 92, 1: "God has given the Jews power over the possessions and blood of all nations."
21. Schulchan Aruch, Choszen Hamiszpat 156: "When a Jew has a Gentile in his clutches, another Jew may go to the same Gentile, lend him money and in turn deceive him, so that the Gentile shall be ruined. For the property of a Gentile, according to our law, belongs to no one, and the first Jew that passes has full right to seize it."
22. Schulchan Aruch, Johre Deah, 122: "A Jew is forbidden to drink from a glass of wine which a Gentile has touched, because the touch has made the wine unclean."
23. Nedarim 23b: "He who desires that none of his vows made during the year be valid, let him stand at the beginning of the year and declare, 'Every vow which I may make in the future shall be null'. His vows are then invalid."
Really nice people guess all nations are nazis (egypt "despoiling" robbing it, Romans under titus, russian pogro
Now, who else thinks changing to a HooliChat log-in is hella lame?
Before they ditch hangouts for Duo, Allo, or what they just had in mind this week.
bickerdyke
Given Google's history:
better features
So useless features, or awesome features that they'll remove next year.
integration with other Google products
That you can't avoid, even if you don't want integration (and god forbid you have say, two Google accounts -- its a giant crapshoot which one will be "active" at any particular time. Not that Google is the only company that doesn't believe you may want to do something like have separate work and personal accounts. Skype anyone?)
And I'm sure Hangouts won't be happy to accept the fact that I'd hidden chat a long time ago. It will jump back in my face and be as annoying as possible until I can figure out how to get rid of it again, since I use it exactly never nor do I have any need or desire to start using it.
I wish they'd just leave gmail alone. It used to be awesome.. and its still better than many mail systems.. but they seem determined to slowly degrade it. Maybe they're trying to find the tipping point where users won't put up with this kind of shit anymore.
LOL - prove it, jailbird bitch
APK
P.S.=> I would love to play Monopoly w/ you - I bet you'd NEVER take the "GET OUT OF JAIL FREE CARD", lol - as you miss the ASSFUCKINGS you got there (lmao) - come on now whimp - you KNOW it's true... lol! apk
Khyber = EVERY MAN'S GIRLFRIEND in the 'jailhouse showers', RoTfLmAo https://openpasts.com/PublicRecord/ALEX-MCQUOWN/1578057922825639/... You up the ass fucking JAILBIRD 110lb. whimp. I bet you MISS the MEN in there, lo1!
2nd time you threatened me w/ lawsuit - so WHERE IS IT punk jailbird bitch? It's not. It never WILL be ya penniless bitch.
LMAO - captcha = GAGGING (I bet you gag on that big black jailhouse cock, lmao!)
APK
P.S.=> Come on pusscake - keep threatening me with those IMAGINARY lawsuits a penniless LOSER JAILBIRD like you can't backup bitch... apk
"You can hear Khyber SQUEALIN' THRU THE WHOLE CELLBLOCK - Leroy's JAMMIN' HIM FULL OF COCK!"
Khyber = EVERY large black man's GIRLFRIEND in the showers, RoTfLmAo!
* Elvis' tune "JAILHOUSE ROCK" plays in accompaniment as the cot springs SQUEAK (& so do YOU w/ each penentrating 'thrust', hahahahaha!)
Hahahahaha.... Oh, those PAINFUL 'memories' (that you miss, lol!)
APK
P.S.=> You KNOW it's true. You LONG to return to the cell where you're the BIG BLACK MEN's special lil' "teddy bear", lmao... apk
ROTFLMAO Khyber got 'breached' & abused https://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=10788413&cid=54697067/ https://openpasts.com/PublicRecord/ALEX-MCQUOWN/1578057922825639/ (hahahaha watch his 'butthurt' reply, pun intended) The infamous 'they' say "THE BUTLER DID IT" when it was REALLY Khyber the expert on breaches (anal ones)
YakYak is an unofficial, open source Hangouts client that works almost as good as GTalk client did. On top of that it works on Linux / Mac & Windows. You can find it here. Licensed under MIT license.
I used to like GTalk client a lot and used it to its last day. The switch to Hangouts was painful, both the Chrome App and Extension were terrible. I almost switched to the FB alternative, but I found YakYak and I'm pretty happy with it.
Reading what I just wrote I cannot believe that I'm not their rep ;-)
Hi! Chat is a large enough space with a diverse enough set of requirements that one size does not fit all.
Discord works great for games.
Zoom focuses on business conferences.
Skype has cheap long distant rates for internet to non-Internet phones.
WhatApp is great for international users.
There is another international chat app I used which had great call back, call forwarding, and automatic response features because of being in different time zones.
People who live on Facebook use that chat.
I use Google hangouts for a couple of people who use gmail a lot. You'll be emailing back and forth and then just move to hangouts.
I use at least 5 different chat apps depending on the context and this is just fine. Google hangouts to me is the stripped down chat when it comes to features and limited when it comes to audience. The client on Linux only has about 20 characters with and is not very "long text" friendly. You can't really dump code or other long text into it and have it be cut/copy/paste friendly.
You mean WASTE, which got semi-forked over to here. Pass around the news, it could definitely use being revived but I've no idea how to do it aside from let people know it exists.
Interesting note: Its initial release in 2003 got reported here.