Sorry, But Anonymous Has No Evidence That NASA Has Found Alien Life (popsci.com)

From a Popular Science article: In a new video, the hacker group known as Anonymous claims that NASA has discovered alien life. But before you freak out, let's talk. Sadly, the group of activists and hacktivists doesn't seem to have found any new evidence to support their extraordinary claim. The video is mainly based on NASA quotes taken out of context, and what appear to be videos and information from conspiracy theory websites. The crux of the argument is based on something Thomas Zurbuchen, NASA's associate administrator for the Science Mission Directorate, said during a hearing in April. These sorts of hearings are organized to educate the House Science Committee on the latest research in a particular field of study. During this one, Zurbuchen said: "Taking into account all of the different activities and missions that are specifically searching for evidence of alien life, we are on the verge of making one of the most profound, unprecedented, discoveries in history." That's the quote Anonymous is pegging their video on. But if you watch his opening statement, he actually explains his reasoning just before he gets to that part. He mentions the Mars 2020 rover, which will look for signs of past life on the red planet. The Europa Clipper mission is slated to search for conditions suitable to life on Jupiter's ocean-filled moon. In a statement, Zurbuchen said, "While we're excited about the latest findings from NASA's Kepler space observatory, there's no pending announcement regarding extraterrestrial life. For years NASA has expressed interest in searching for signs of life beyond Earth. We have a number of science missions that are moving forward with the goal of seeking signs of past and present life on Mars and ocean worlds in the outer solar system. While we do not yet have answers, we will continue to work to address the fundamental question, 'are we alone?'"

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The thing about Anonymous

[rijrunner]

Anyone can claim to be part of it and then push any lie they want and the blame will fall on that group..

Re:The thing about Anonymous

[Zeio]

This could be government psyops. Recent leaks have shows state sponsored attacks are capable of leaving false fingerprints behind. If state sponsored attackers were able to compromise anonymous, even briefly, they could release garbage like this to attack the organizations overall credibility. On top of that anonymous would then have to choose to ignore, claim they themselves were compromised or refute. Difficult position to be in. The other option for state level attackers is to compromise all key members in such that they are forced to veer off course to damage credibility behind held by threats against life and limb. I've always wondered if folks like Alex Jones were psyops. Put enough nuggets in to pique interest and remain somewhat plausible but then act crazed most of the time to further discredit. Its a situation where you could be revealing the actual truth through a channel like that and discredit it because of the delivery mechanism.

Information these days is totally warped. How do you even know google/facebook/etc are even letting you see what everyone else is seeing? You are being served up your own version of reality based on preferences.

Its going to get incredibly hard to follow the truth in the coming years. I already suspect most information is being cleansed and customized by the big boys and "underground" areas are riddled with enough moonbats to keep them from becoming trusted sources.

The "resistance" needs a ton of discipline not present today to expose the engineering of information going on right now. Underground groups need to protect themselves from key-man issues and master password issues and implement dead-mans-switches (DMS) - sometimes the most damning information needs to be withheld and put into a DMS to allow the group to keep operating.

Good luck out there.

Re:The thing about Anonymous

[mrclevesque]

Yes. The YouTube channel in monetized and this video already has over 1,300,000 views (their average video view is around 30,000 or less.

Makes me wonder if the ones responsible are about to 'skip town' with a little money.

Re:The thing about Anonymous

[KGIII]

And you don't compromise Anonymous. You can just join 'em. I'm pretty sure half of 'em are FBI agents already.

Re:The thing about Anonymous

[Rockoon]

Well thats ok, the other half are NSA agents.

Both sides unknowingly investigating the pretended activities of the other, never getting any real evidence, so it just continues forever.

Re:The thing about Anonymous

[KGIII]

I would watch a short film based on that idea - and I generally only watch documentaries.

Re:The thing about Anonymous

[KGIII]

I am. I am not a grandparent, which is unfortunate. Presumably, that's because my kids haven't figured out how to make babies yet. They're grown adults but I'm fearful that they're stupid. I've tried bribery. I offered the first one to make me a grandfather a reasonable house and an SUV of their choice. They know damned well that I'll cover any/all expenses they ever have.

And they don't make me a grandfather...

I'm pretty sure they just don't know how. One's married and the other in a long-term relationship. Yet, they make me no babies. Sheer incompetence, I tell ya.

Super-intelligent shade of the colour blue

[jfdavis668]

They may have discovered Hooloovoos by spectral analysis of exoplanets.

Aliens would be great for NASA

[Oswald McWeany]

NASA isn't hiding any aliens from us. Discovering alien life would be the best thing that could happen for NASA. Nothing would boost their budget more, or get the public supporting them more.

The last thing NASA would possibly want to do is hide the existence of ETs from us.

Re: Aliens would be great for NASA

[guruevi]

You would also disprove about 90% of Earths religions and given 0% of our elected officials are non-religious I think an amendment to the constitution regarding the further funding of space exploration would be the only bill with 100% bipartisan support before the announcement was even complete.

Re: Aliens would be great for NASA

[xxxJonBoyxxx]

>> disprove about 90% of Earths religions

Religions are already adapting so that such news would not conflict with their worldview. For example, here's the modified Catholic story:
https://cruxnow.com/global-church/2017/02/23/catholicism-handle-discovery-extraterrestrial-life/

>> 0% of our elected officials are non-religious

Hmmm...better do some Googling before you claim an absolute like that.

Re: Aliens would be great for NASA

[gnick]

You would also disprove about 90% of Earths religions...

Established religions won't tolerate being disproved. The best you could hope for is encouraging them to re-interpret their holy writings to fit the new reality.

...0% of our elected officials are non-religious...

I think that a lot of them are less religious than they let on. That's not to say that their religious facade won't impact their actions.

Re: Aliens would be great for NASA

[invid]

You would also disprove about 90% of Earths religions.

It depends on the aliens. If we can talk to them and they say "Your God is BS, you should worship Flarg instead." I'm sure it would cause lots of confusion. Or they might clumsily try to get on our good side by lying. "Oh yeah, we know Jesus. Yep, he visited our world last year. We thought about killing him too, but we couldn't decide on a method. Nailing on a cross, we'll remember that the next time we see him."

Re: Aliens would be great for NASA

[Rick Schumann]

They'll either claim that it's a bunch of lies created by Satan-loving 'scientists', or that the alien life itself is of Satan, inherently evil, and exists only to sway the Faithful; religious leaders will tell the Faithful to ignore it all and 'stay stong in their Faith, believe the Word of God, blah blah blah' and so on. You could have sentient, technologically advanced, interstellar aliens land on Earth in their starship, and they'd declare them False and Evil and Of Satan. You'd have religious nutjobs trying to kill the Evil Satanic Aliens who obviously have come to turn Man away from their kind and loving God (whichever one it is) and destroy us all. You could even have aliens land on Earth, and be converted to Islam or Catholicism or *whatever*, and it wouldn't be good enough, they'd still be declared Anathema and targeted for destruction. And then, after some fanatical lunatic kills them, their civilization declares war on the Earth and Mankind for their crime, which of course justifies everything the religious nutjobs have been saying up to that point, and we all get annihilated when they bombard us from orbit. Haven't you been paying attention? Cautionary tales like this have been written more times than I can count.

Re: Aliens would be great for NASA

[Rick Schumann]

I'm not him, and I'm not going to bother doing that research, but I can say that it's hard to get elected to public office in these United States unless you're a 'good Christian' or at least can fake it well.

No, parent is right about religion.

[Anonymous Coward]

If life were found on another planet, the Judeo-Christian-Islamic World - 90% of the World's population (I think the GP meant that) - would totally freak out. Their mythology is based upon we humans being created here on Planet Earth in God's Image.

Now, there's nothing I know of in any religious texts that says that their god created other planets and and other people, but it is assumed that we are It in the Universe.

I mean really, those people are freaking out over our globalized World and the increasing secularization of it. Do you honestly think that those people would be OK with finding life on another planet?

I don't. I see shit hitting the fan like in Carl Sagan's "Contact".

We need to update the space alien

[k6mfw]

I mean we need a new space alien look instead of the same retread from 20th century big eyes, small mouth, big head with slender body. We need diversity instead of same little green men. Also why are all space aliens naked? It seems anyone that travels interstellar distances at superluminal speeds would want a flight suit with cool patches.

Re:We need to update the space alien

[gtall]

What? Trump isn't alien enough for you. He's got the weird hair, beady little eyes, Messiah complex you see in any Hollywood alien leader. The only thing he's missing is some funny costume, maybe like Rick Moranis in SpaceBalls, that would really complete the look.

Re:Trump would have blabbed

[Roger W Moore]

Unless he *is* one of them - deep cover

With his skin tone I'd hardly call it deep cover.

Re:Trump would have blabbed

[Tablizer]

We know there aren't aliens because Donald Trump would have blabbed about it by now if there were. Unless he *is* one of them

Kind of: He worries his hair might want to go home if it knows there's a ride nearby.

Re:Interestingly...

[bobbied]

Yet, science has shown that moving objects have a different perspective on what the speed of light actually is. Everybody sees the same speed from their perspective, but the passage of time runs at varying rates for other objects that are moving in relation to the observer.

Let that sink in....

Trolls

[rolias]

It's like concluding that trolls exist based on an offhand remark made by Norway's prime minister.