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Sorry, But Anonymous Has No Evidence That NASA Has Found Alien Life (popsci.com)
From a Popular Science article: In a new video, the hacker group known as Anonymous claims that NASA has discovered alien life. But before you freak out, let's talk. Sadly, the group of activists and hacktivists doesn't seem to have found any new evidence to support their extraordinary claim. The video is mainly based on NASA quotes taken out of context, and what appear to be videos and information from conspiracy theory websites. The crux of the argument is based on something Thomas Zurbuchen, NASA's associate administrator for the Science Mission Directorate, said during a hearing in April. These sorts of hearings are organized to educate the House Science Committee on the latest research in a particular field of study. During this one, Zurbuchen said: "Taking into account all of the different activities and missions that are specifically searching for evidence of alien life, we are on the verge of making one of the most profound, unprecedented, discoveries in history." That's the quote Anonymous is pegging their video on. But if you watch his opening statement, he actually explains his reasoning just before he gets to that part. He mentions the Mars 2020 rover, which will look for signs of past life on the red planet. The Europa Clipper mission is slated to search for conditions suitable to life on Jupiter's ocean-filled moon. In a statement, Zurbuchen said, "While we're excited about the latest findings from NASA's Kepler space observatory, there's no pending announcement regarding extraterrestrial life. For years NASA has expressed interest in searching for signs of life beyond Earth. We have a number of science missions that are moving forward with the goal of seeking signs of past and present life on Mars and ocean worlds in the outer solar system. While we do not yet have answers, we will continue to work to address the fundamental question, 'are we alone?'"
Anyone can claim to be part of it and then push any lie they want and the blame will fall on that group..
We have to stay here...
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Consult the Tsoukalos! We don't need no stinkin' Anonymous here.
They may have discovered Hooloovoos by spectral analysis of exoplanets.
NASA isn't hiding any aliens from us. Discovering alien life would be the best thing that could happen for NASA. Nothing would boost their budget more, or get the public supporting them more.
The last thing NASA would possibly want to do is hide the existence of ETs from us.
"That's the way to do it" - Punch
We know there aren't aliens because Donald Trump would have blabbed about it by now if there were.
I'd like to believe that our government keeps some secrets from DJT. I don't know that's the case, but believing it helps me sleep at night.
He's getting rather old, but he's a good mouse.
If life were found on another planet, the Judeo-Christian-Islamic World - 90% of the World's population (I think the GP meant that) - would totally freak out. Their mythology is based upon we humans being created here on Planet Earth in God's Image.
Now, there's nothing I know of in any religious texts that says that their god created other planets and and other people, but it is assumed that we are It in the Universe.
I mean really, those people are freaking out over our globalized World and the increasing secularization of it. Do you honestly think that those people would be OK with finding life on another planet?
I don't. I see shit hitting the fan like in Carl Sagan's "Contact".
I mean we need a new space alien look instead of the same retread from 20th century big eyes, small mouth, big head with slender body. We need diversity instead of same little green men. Also why are all space aliens naked? It seems anyone that travels interstellar distances at superluminal speeds would want a flight suit with cool patches.
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Frosty piss.
Unless he *is* one of them - deep cover
With his skin tone I'd hardly call it deep cover.
Indeed. Area 51 aliens? Bigfoot? Time travel? The existence of Trump as president is a death knell to so many conspiracy theories because, you really think he'd be able to keep his mouth shut about that sort of thing?
Don't be too quick to assume the president would ever be told. President Clinton made public statements nobody told him about aliens and president Whitmore was only told *AFTER* aliens invaded earth and starting blowing shit up.
Few politicians understand that science is something that we need to continually advance even if it there is no profit in it. This means you have to make them feel it's "worth it" somehow which leads to grand statements like,
we are on the verge of making one of the most profound, unprecedented, discoveries in history.
The only mystery here is how smart hackers can be so easily fooled by there own confirmation bias.
Anons need not reply. Questions end with a question mark.
As per Ryan Sohmer's comic (http://www.leasticoulddo.com/comic/20170605/), it is quite clear that the US government has no contact with aliens, wizards, or psychics.
Because there is NO way that Donald "Covfefe" Trump could have kept that to himself. Similarly, Bin Laden was the author behind 911 and Obama had him killed.
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Kind of: He worries his hair might want to go home if it knows there's a ride nearby.
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I was looking forward to trying the alien's cuisine. I wonder once the announcement is made how long it'll take Virgin Galactic to do flights ;P
Yep, and U.S. allies (Israel) won't be briefing His Bigliness anytime soon.
That's because NASA learned the hard way that it's difficult to distinguish between life and "funny soil chemistry" (FSC). Viking results are still heavily debated.
To do it "right" probably requires devising progressively more-specific experiments based on early ones to distinguish between competing theories. That could require several feedback cycles (new missions), and in the end still not rule out FSC.
Until several microbe specimens are observed moving and/or reproducing under a microscope, the question will likely never be settled. Since any microbes are probably small and few in number, probe-based microscopic observation is not trivial. But advances in scope miniaturization may make it so one day. However, the radiation on Mars is so strong that there may be a limit to practical miniaturization, unless maybe samples are robotically delivered to a "cave lab" probe.
By the way, the 2003 UK Beagle 2 lander mission had life-detection instruments, but unfortunately failed to fully deploy. It's a bummer because in-orbit photos suggest that it landed okay, but some mechanical problem prevented it from fully deploying the solar panels. Its particular "daisy" design required all the solar panels to open before the antenna could function. They should have included a non-hidden low-bandwidth backup antenna for status and engineering communication.
Such a backup saved NASA's Galileo Jupiter orbiter mission when the main antenna failed to deploy properly. Couldn't send a lot of images, but it did other wonderful science.
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LIES!! Everything discovered on 4chan is 100% authentic and legitimate. The media is lying! Aliens are real!
REEEEEEEEEEEEE!!
How could have Anonymous sabotage Trump's election campaign? What rumor could they spread or information could they dig up that would be worse than what is already publicly known.
Yet, science has shown that moving objects have a different perspective on what the speed of light actually is. Everybody sees the same speed from their perspective, but the passage of time runs at varying rates for other objects that are moving in relation to the observer.
Let that sink in....
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It's like concluding that trolls exist based on an offhand remark made by Norway's prime minister.
Look at what they said then decide for yourself.
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From my physics classes (from way back when I was a physics major - before I hit Quantum Mechanics): Nothing prevents an object from travelling faster than the speed of light. It just can't start below light speed and accelerate beyond light speed. However, the equations do work - sort of - with speeds greater than the speed of light. "Sort of" being that it introduces an imaginary number (square root of negative one). This might mean it's impossible or it might mean something else entirely. We're not quite sure yet.
My sci-fi novel, Ghost Thief, is now available from Amazon.com.
The truth is out there ! :)
Admittedly I didn't watch the entire video, but I've seen enough of it to know that Anonymous didn't set out to claim that NASA *currently has* evidence of the existence of alien life. They claimed NASA would soon reveal the evidence, based on the amount of resources poured into finding said evidence.
When the copyright term is "forever minus a day", live every day like it's the last.
I don't mind taxes being used to operate courts and other services that are freely available to every citizen. We all have contracts that need to be enforced.
You assume that I am for lawlessness, but you present this as there is only two mutually exclusive choices, but that is simply not true. I believe you did this in a dishonest attempt to discredit my argument.
I am very much for the rule of law, in addition I am for citizens having a democratic right to choose how public funds are spent and to limit the government's power through limiting its budget. We can easily find hypothetical examples that we universally agree that we should not spend public funds on, and we've already demonstrated we can find situations where we disagree. There is a line where was we find reasonable and what we find unreasonable, I draw my line closer to the side of individual freedom, and you draw your line closer to collectivism. You really have no business painting me as some kind of anarchist in order to justify your extreme views.
Assuming that Special Relativity holds, FTL travel is time travel. If you can travel faster than light in two different reference frames, you can go backwards in time.
"When you have eliminated the unacceptable, whatever is left, however improbable, must be the truthiness" - Holmes
They'll say it's not proof of extraterrestrial life, even if they believed it is, just to keep people calm. Only last week, there was a report that astronomers were looking at a distant star and something passed in front of it and momentarily blocked their view of it. It wasn't "natural", because it came back passing the opposite way, which astral bodies can't do, and even changed speed.
Matter and particles can't. Space itself can.
Good luck getting the energy necessary, though.
President Clinton made a lot of statements that were later found in court to be perjurious.