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AMD Launches Ryzen PRO CPUs: Enhanced Security, Longer Warranty, Better Quality (anandtech.com)
Reader harrisonweber shares a report: This morning AMD introduced their Ryzen PRO processors for business and commercial desktop PCs. The new lineup of CPUs includes the Ryzen 3 PRO, Ryzen 5 PRO and Ryzen 7 PRO families with four, six, or eight cores running at various frequencies. A superset to the standard Ryzen chips, the PRO chips have the same feature set as other Ryzen devices, but also offer enhanced security, 24 months availability, a longer warranty and promise to feature better chip quality. The AMD Ryzen PRO lineup of processors consists of six SKUs that belong to the Ryzen 7, Ryzen 5 and Ryzen 3 families targeting different market segments and offering different levels of performance. As one would expect, the Ryzen 7 PRO models are aimed at workstation applications and thus have all eight cores with simultaneous multithreading enabled, the Ryzen 5 PROmodels are designed for advanced mainstream desktops and therefore have four or six cores with SMT, whereas the Ryzen 3 PRO models are aimed at office workloads that work well on quad-core CPUs without SMT. The specifications of the Ryzen 7 PRO and the Ryzen 5 PRO resemble those of regular Ryzen processors. Meanwhile, the Ryzen 3 PRO are the first chips from the Ryzen 3 lineup and thus give us a general idea what to expect from such products: four cores without SMT operating at 3.1-3.5 GHz base frequency along with 2+8 MB of cache.
The phrase "Enhanced Security" almost never means what it says.
Ryzen 7 = Core i7
Ryzen 5 = Core i5
Ryzen 3 = Core i3
Ryzen Pro is Xeon equivalent?
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Hi, you're talking about an entirely different processor architecture (Bulldozer).
Zen (the basis for Ryzen and Epyc) is a clean sheet design.
AMD took forever to get Ryzen out, but they really did do a good job with the chips. No games, no tricks, and 50% more instructions per clock. And to specifically answer your question: yes, each core has its own FPU.
http://www.pcworld.com/article/3176907/components-processors/ryzen-cpus-explained-everything-you-need-to-know-about-amds-disruptive-multicore-chips.html
The most interesting thing about the new Ryzen PRO chips: much more PCI-E lanes. From an article a month ago: "...AMD committed offering all 64 PCI-E lanes and 4 DDR4 memory channels on every ThreadRipper SKU regardless of price, clockspeed, or core count. These [Intel] Core X-series chips haven't even been publicly announced for a full 24 hours and already it's clear that AMD's offering the better chip."
http://semiaccurate.com/2017/05/31/amds-ryzen-threadripper-brings-socket-tr4-x399-chipset/
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Full cores, very competitive with Intel parts, and half the price.
Memory encryption is a killer feature.
const int one = 65536; (Silvermoon, Texture.cs)
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ryzen pro is different than threadripper.
Whoops, sorry for the mistake. I thought Threadripper was just a code name and Ryzen Pro was the release name. But it was a dumb mistake... the table shows "Ryzen 3 Pro" with only 4 cores and no Threadripper will have that few.
Mea culpa.
lf(1): it's like ls(1) but sorts filenames by extension, tersely
> No games, no tricks
wat? They still have their equivalent of Intel's IME. Until they gut that shit, I'm not buying new hardware with my own money.
It's an old BMW. Ryzen7 = 7-series Ryzen5 = 5-series Ryzen3 = 3-series
They still have their equivalent of Intel's IME. Until they gut that ****, I'm not buying new hardware with my own money.
According to SemiAccurate, the AMD security stuff is way better than the Intel stuff.
Why is it better than Intel?
http://semiaccurate.com/2017/06/22/amds-epyc-major-advance-security/
Still, if you want hardware that absolutely doesn't have a tricky security system, you should be trying to help the EOMA68 project succeed. I backed their Kickstarter and one of these days I will receive a little mini desktop, running Linux on an ARM core. It's the one made from stacked wood.
https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68/micro-desktop
lf(1): it's like ls(1) but sorts filenames by extension, tersely
How could you not have heard? Ryzen is good enough that Intel is having a panic attack of sorts. AMD closed the IPC gap significantly, though Ryzen starts at a lower clock speed than the iX series and there's latency in cross CCX communication, but has increased core counts across the board. (Basically, it slightly underperforms in gaming-type tasks, performs well in multi-core tasks.)
From what I understand, the normal desktop Ryzen didn't worry Intel so much, but when AMD announced Threadripper (16-cores), Intel responded with the i9 series. It seems to be a rush-job though with people complaining about what features are available.
Then there's the price. An 8- or 6-core Ryzen CPU/mobo combo is about half the same price for the same core-count. Intel is keeping their prices static (their 16-core is expected to cost $1699, whereas the 16-core Threadripper is expected at under $900).
AMD is actually providing good value for the money and anyone not dependent on Intel's strengths will probably go AMD.
Ask and you shall receive?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=...
AMD is back with a new architecture from scratch after the terrible piledriver architecture.
It's equivalent to an 8 core 16 threaded i7 4790k if one ever existed in gaming and beats the i7 7700k in productivity tasks and matches $2000 i7 6900 series CPUs in both gaming and productivity.
AMD rehired it's Alpha and AthlonXP CPU designer for Ryzen with it's new design from scratch. Downside are bugs and errata as it's brand new
http://saveie6.com/
Secure boot and TPM is pretty standard nowdays and this means Ryzens can't be sold with Windows OEM as the license agreement dictates secure boot and TPM keys.
ROOTkit detection is pretty essential today. So this means only Ryzen Pros offer what Intel has had for years
http://saveie6.com/
That's not what "superset" means... it means quite the opposite, in fact. If Ryzen PRO chips are a superset of Ryzen chips, then all Ryzen chips are Ryzen PRO chips, but not all Ryzen PRO are necessarily Ryzen chips. The intended meaning is the other way around, isn't it? All Ryzen PRO chips are Ryzen chips, but not all Ryzen chips are Ryzen PRO chips, therefore Ryzen chips are a superset of Ryzen PRO chips, or Ryzen PRO chips are a subset of Ryzen chips.
Alternatively, one could say that the *features* of Ryzen PRO chips are a superset of the *features* of Ryzen chips.
A smaller set cannot be a superset of a larger set.
On a different note, I have a very simple question: is there evidence that these kinds of hardware security features actually do thwart attacks in the real world? Just curious.
Warranty? Quality?
Fuck that, 3.7" Thick.. Sounds like instead of someone robbing you for your laptop, you could beat the brakes out of them with the thing.. Just saying.
Can it run Windows 7 or just Linux, OSX, and Microsoft malware?
Quite an experience to live in fear, isn't it? That's what it is to be a slave.