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Facebook Envisions New Campus With Affordable Housing Units (sfgate.com)
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"In a few years, families could be living at Facebook," quips CNET. The Bay Area Newsgroup reports that Facebook is proposing a new campus with facilities open to the public "to address long-neglected community needs and to accommodate its burgeoning workforce." But the San Francisco Chronicle sees more than just new buildings. "Implicit in the tech company's announcement is Facebook's belief that it can solve some of the area's most pressing issues, including traffic congestion, demand for affordable housing and a lack of transit options. By opening the campus and some of its facilities to the public, Facebook is also heading off a common criticism lobbed at wealthy tech firms: that they move into cities, drive up the cost of living, displace area residents and then do little to give back."
Facebook will offer 15% of the housing -- about 225 units -- at "below market rates." They're also promising to invest tens of millions of dollars in improvements to nearby Highway 101 and to "catalyze regional transit investment," according to Facebook's vice president of global facilities and real estate. The Chronicle notes that the campus's open-to-the-public pharmacy and grocery store "would also solve the issue of a lack of food retailers in that part of the city, where the nearest large store is a Safeway 4 miles away -- a trip that can take up to 40 minutes during rush hour, according to Google Maps."
Facebook will offer 15% of the housing -- about 225 units -- at "below market rates." They're also promising to invest tens of millions of dollars in improvements to nearby Highway 101 and to "catalyze regional transit investment," according to Facebook's vice president of global facilities and real estate. The Chronicle notes that the campus's open-to-the-public pharmacy and grocery store "would also solve the issue of a lack of food retailers in that part of the city, where the nearest large store is a Safeway 4 miles away -- a trip that can take up to 40 minutes during rush hour, according to Google Maps."
Company towns? What? We're going back to 1917?
And a company store? So, that bag of Doritos is gonna cost you $20. The beer is $60 a six pack.
There's a company clinic. Oh, and we're gonna monitor how you live. Say there Joe, you haven't exercised and we haven't seen you log into work on the weekends. And hairy mature porn? My aunt is a bit lonely, want a "date"? She's 5' 4" and 120 lbs.
Housing for Needledicks and Whiteboys. Nothing for the Niggas. Nothing for the Cholo.
...living at work.
The city will literally not allow this to happen; they want highly paid employees to keep housing prices propped up. Why even write about this if the city isn't going to change their mind? Facebook can dream up whatever they want, but unless they leave San Francisco, it's not happening.
Bringing back the company town.
And the real problem is the masses of idiots who are stupid enough to use Facebook.
If everyone quit using Facebook, Zuckerberg would not be able to do the awful things he does.
I will admit Facebook is a useful litmus test though. If a person uses it, they are an idiot, and there's no point in wasting time on them. This is sort of like when people used America Online for their ISP and their email service. If they did that you knew they were stupid.
You load sixteen tons, what do you get?
Another day older and deeper in debt
Saint Peter don't you call me 'cause I can't go
I owe my soul to the company store
The Brainiacs over at Facebook aren't smart enough to think of perhaps putting a new facility in a different town that isn't already congested.
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By David Eggers is happening before our very eyes.
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Willie can hang in the maintenance closet and Pepe can crash in the garden shed.
What does it mean? That the companies should somehow develop public infrastructures?
Call me old fashioned, but I think that's the job of the town halls, of course they should pay property and land taxes that would allow said town halls to do their job.
Are they going to offer those units to their employees? Or are they disqualified? Do those employees take a commensurate pay cut since their housing costs are lower than their peers, or do they just get to rake in phat cash because they won the subsidized housing lotto?
Those renderings have a Georges Seurat vibe, no?
Google is in Mountain View. So suck dick, SF!
This feels like what some companies already do in China, except there it tends to be more in the form of dormitories. At the same it could be an interesting idea for other companies, as a way of reducing commute times. One company that I am thinking about is Apple with their new mega campus.
One of the things that put some people off working for these large companies is spending two hours in traffic, instead of 10 minutes using less stressful transportation, such as foot, bicycle or bus/train. Not everyone needs or wants a house, but may be happy living in an apartment with services near by.
Jumpstart the tartan drive.
maybe not in our lifetimes, but there's something about this that gives me a bad feeling
By signing up for Facebook, you surrender your identity as it is - maybe this is to take it to the next level. They will stream everything these people do for our entertainment. That's the price they would have to pay to live there.
you forgot the goatsex link
We control the banking, Hollywood, accounting and bagel industries. No one can stop us.
ZION PHASE II is coming!!!!
You want to be white JEW: Why do jews get rhinoplasty nosejobs to get rid of huge pinocchio horns then? Proof right there and you know it. Quit telling so many lies it won't be so big full of lies, coke or heroin.
Then step up and use the same fix the last time this bug came up: Unionize.
Coding and programming has made its way into the skilled trade territory. You have 6-18 week hands on training. A skilled trade welder has as much overlap in knowledge and skill with a welding engineer as a 'boot camp coder' has with someone with a CS degree. Both skills are in high demand but the 'boot camp coders' are getting screwed because of their insistence that they are each special snow flakes and a trade union would hurt their earning potential but in reality everyone would be better off.
And no, that doesn't mean CS, CompE or EE degrees are going away either. It just means they're going to change what they're doing just like every other profession with a skilled trade portion has done since the beginning of time. In engineering you have Engineers, Engineering Techs/Technologists and on down. In medicine you have Doctors, PAs, Nurses, and Orderlys. Different skills, different knowledge, different training. But Nurses and Technologists, unlike 'bootcamp coders' are unionized.
It would also take care of the continuing education portion of the job market by putting training back in the hands of the union. I have friends in HVAC and pipefitting unions that get annual education. They are contracted out to companies that need HVAC and pipe fitting and live a pretty good blue collar life.
Or don't. Continue to get screwed by companies by thinking you're the one exception to the rule.
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Facebook is also heading off a common criticism lobbed at wealthy tech firms: that they move into cities, drive up the cost of living, displace area residents and then do little to give back.
They wouldn't displace area residents if city boards would allow more housing to be built. The cities invite the tech companies (because they want the tax revenue) then don't allow more housing to be built. It is all rather predictable.
"First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
That reminds me of the justice4germans website, though this Polish one seems anti-Nazi.
Whenever companies begin getting invested like this in people's lives, possessive behaivour ensues. Always. No Exceptions. Do not engage with it, do not accept it. Like an Italian manager who needs to take you out to lunch to get you personally invested in an enterprise so they can feel secure underpaying you, it will always bring you misery.
3 groups of people are driving housing prices.
First, teachers unions. Nobody wants to live in a bad school district, so instead of moving the teachers or offering people a choice of schools, we instead force people to buy and sell their homes to move districts. Taxes are also higher where teachers unions are more aggressive; where I live, kindergarden teachers have masters degree's and make 80th percentile wages. A lot of the time, just the cost of the lot of land is considered half the cost of a house.
Second, bankers. Whether it's a NINJA loan, property developers, or rent-seeking landlords, people need a place to live, and bankers are more than willing to over-sell property development to drive property prices up which drive loan prices up. A dollar invested in property development is 5 dollars in interest payments. Go look up construction costs per sqft sometime. Most houses could be completely bulldozed and rebuilt for less than 1\3rd of their selling value.
Finally, there's politicians. I live west of Chicago. Cook County is becoming increasingly aggressive with taxes of every kind; a $150k house draws $8k in yearly property taxes. Our state has it constitutionally stated pensions and government employee benefits will get paid, so instead of paying vendors, contractors, or their own lottery, they're paying the government employee's. Since most of those employee's are in Cook county, people are moving out of Cook county. Housing Prices have doubled since last year due to this.
Now frankly, Bankers and Politicians don't produce any real value for society; you double the number of them and not a single extra widget flys off the line. There's a very solid arguement that teachers have gotten too far down the rabbit hole of focusing the majority of their students time on non-academic subjects. Put those groups of people back where they belong, you fix the affordable housing problem.
there's just nothing like cheap low-class accommodations for us wage slaves!
Afterwards, you'll be able to spend your salary of FaceBucks at the company whore. I mean store.
Dems are for the worker though totes.
I have worked with the population that needs housing subsidies. We need a LOT more affordable housing (or housing subsidies of one sort or another)--anybody who believes otherwise doesn't know the situation on the ground. While there are occasionally people taking advantage of the system or able to pull their weight and not, there are also a LOT of people who just have one medical problem or one bad month income-wise and it snowballs into destroying a big part of their life.
(E.g. you are deciding whether to pay the rent or the food bill, don't cover the rent on time, get evicted and now fail tenant background screening while your credit score plummets because of a money judgment, so you can't find a place again, and you hope to hell you have family or friends in the area, and in the meantime your time looking for a new place and assistance takes so much time that your work suffers along with your dignity. Nobody wants to be in that situation.)
Real lawyers write in C++
If Facebook does this it would have to be highly regulated to protect people. If my company did this, I would not accept the housing. Can I get my annual raise? Sorry, rent control means we can't raise housing costs as much as we'd like so no raise. I quit! You are also homeless. I'm fired? You are also homeless. Here is my letter of resignation, effective in two weeks as expected. You are homeless as of right now, but good luck to you.
Considering there is no regulation and no discussion of such, this won't end up well for people in that housing. It's not like we have not seen this same scenario play out in the past right? I'm sure this Utopia will work out, really..
-The wise argue that there are few absolutes, the fool argues that there are no probabilities.
Just like Pulman. Smooth.
> I owe my soul to the company store
FTFA:
"A company representative told CNET that the apartment units and retail would be open to all prospective tenants, and not just Facebook's employees. The office space, however, would be for the social network's use alone"
It's a pity that it takes an Internet Megacorp to build more housing in the SF Bay Area, but _any_ new housing (that's fit for habitation) is better than _no_ new housing.
Remember: regardless of who built it, _all_ housing that's rented to the public is subject to the _same_ rules and regulations.
to the company store!
Everything old is new again. sigh
ca 84 can use more over / under passes!
Harold Wallace Rosenthal https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeDcbrkjK0g/ Jew = the eternal enemy.
Crime rates store in the facebook company town. They blame republicans.
Work from home, from the beach, at a park ...
Thanks Zuckerberg......like this is really something the Western world needed reviving.
"The average reporter we talk to is 27 years old......They literally know nothing." - Ben Rhodes
You're luciferian admitted by jew Harold Wallace Rosenthal & hook noses != superior (you cut em off) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeDcbrkjK0g/ you ugly (both inside and outside) lying swine JUDEN https://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=10837199&cid=54770739/
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Take permits many; money more.
Odds are Zuck will give up before one scrap of land is disturbed.
It's got a nice ring to it, no?
They always talk a good line, offering lots of freebies (college, phones, healthcare, etc) and claiming they will "tax the rich"... but then there is demonstrated reality:
The Democrats have total state-wide control of California (ALL Statewide elected offices and super-majorities in both the state senate and state house) and when they needed more money to provide lawyers for illegal aliens and all the other new progressive stuff (and most-importantly to add cash to the unionized state worker pension funds) who and what did they tax?
NOT Apple, Facebook, Google, Hollywood, the Big Bankers, Zuckerberg, Brinn, etc.... nope.
They slapped new taxes on cars and gasoline, which are some of the most regressive taxes in existence. The middle class and below-middle-class are always most harmed by these two taxes and by taxes on things like cigarettes and alcohoil (the so-called "sin taxes"). These items are a tiny fraction of the income of the bazillionaire classes. There's never a proportionally high tax on the items the rich buy or a tax that goes after the REAL money of the super rich (a tax on their GLOBAL ASSETS). The super-rich park their wealth in global investments and global corporations and they are never really hurt by income taxes or sales taxes or gas taxes.
Only stupid gullible leftists buy into the crap these super-rich left wing advocates for "social justice" shovel. Normal people with functioning brains notice that the Zuckerberg, Gates, Buffet, etc crowd are actually phony redistributionists. They wanna re-distribute the money of the middle class and convert the middle class and lower classes into slave labor. Nothing is stopping these uber-rich guys from simply paying a competative wage. Nothing forces Apple, one of the richest companies on the planet, to use slave labor in China. Nobody forced Warren Buffet to take over a textile company, fire all the employees, and then use the company name and shell structure as the name of his super-rich investment firm (and leave his ex-employees at the mercy of government (tax-payer funded) assistance). As he became one of the richest men on the planet, Buffet never did anything significant to help the people he fired who lost their jobs, lost their homes, had their families break up, etc. These are NOT good (or even slightly decent) people.
Tell me: If you move into Zuck's labor camp what happens when he threatens to lay you off? Does he now have the power to not only remove your income but to directly and immediately make you and your family homeless? How much more leverage does this give him over his employees while he uses the move to posture as some sort of "good guy"?
https://www.google.com/maps/search/shenzhen+foxconn/@22.6444489,114.0467122,320m/data=!3m1!1e3
Buildings crammed side-by-side, workers who are economically trapped in the housing, only able to work at Foxconn...
Obviously it won't quite be the same, but....
Affordable housing is easy - live somewhere you can afford.
Quit asking the taxpayers to give you welfare in the form of a housing subsidy.
You're one of the following:
1. A sick idiot off of his meds - see your doc immeditately, your lengthy post is only evidence of your meds lapsing.
2. A racist freak - kindly go somewhere quite and off yourself, your lenghty post only affirms your vile nature.
3. A leftist pretending to be what you think a right winger would be like - "A" for effort (lots of typing), and you certainly hit all the stereotypical Jew-hating hot button talking points, but you're just all wrong on so many levels. It's the left that spends all its time focused on skin colors. The right in the US has always opposed this and is often accused of racism precisely because they refuse to use skin color in education, government action, employment, etc. It's the American right wingers who are most worried about the plight of Jews and the fate of Israel. It was Jessie Jackson, not Ted Cruz, who called New York "Hymietown" and it was the Democrat Obama who was importing Muslims into the US as fast as he could while not looking to see how many want to kill all the Jews.
Yeah, how difficult and expensive could it possibly be to try to find a job and housing hundreds of miles away from your current home?
ALL non-jews listen good to this & know thy enemy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4zMVZ8HnFI/ from a jew no less.The eternal enemy. The jew.
Oh if only wages had kept up with housing prices. Can't really get those 1500 sq ft homes for $30k anymore. Stop being a cunt.
Hilarious a jew f'd all you jews over exposing your luciferian god and how you thieve all non jews https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeDcbrkjK0g/ hahahahahaha!
Harold Wallace Rosenthal, a jew, says the same as he did. Rosenthal on jews being satanic scum https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeDcbrkjK0g/ save your weak jedi mind tricks jude pseudo science. It doesn't work on me
Jews believe this of others they call goyim/gentiles (any non-jew): Jews = biggest racists of all (for which they "jew guilt" you for no less! They're hypocrites known as thieves all thru history or were Argentines in the 1940 under Perrone, Spanish inquistion, France (1306), Egypt (despoiled/robbed by jews), Arabs (pre & post 1948), England (1330 Edward longshanks), Romans under titus, Russia pogroms and Germany who got rid of them from their nations nazi german's too? No. Should anyone doubt any of this see Jacob Javits' crony Rosenthal spill the beans on it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4zMVZ8HnFI/ where he called all Christianity fools for helping Israel and the biggest scam of all time per their beliefs below from their Talmud. This is the province of the synagogue of Satan (Khazar/Pharisees whom Jesus Christ himself kicked to the curb out of the temple):
there are three types of people who call themselves Jews:
1. True Torah [Sephardic] Jews: these are the descendants of Prophet Jacob-Israel (Jacobites or Israelites) (about 5%-10% of all Jews)
2. Khazarian or Ashkenazi Jews: these are the descendants of a Turkic idol/phallic worshiping tribe who migrated to Russia in the 7th Century A.C. and whose nobility converted to Judaism in the 8th Century A.C. and now inhabit mostly Europe. (about 90%-95% of all Jews)
3. Zionist Jews: these are the ones from the 2 above who are pretending to be Jews for political reasons but whoâ(TM)re are actually Illuminists-Luciferian-Masonic-Satanists as Harold Wallace Rosenthal admits in this interview.
They are led by the neo-Pharisees (occult-priest-banklords). They want to establish a Zionist Luciferian state from the Nile to the Euphrates from where they plan to rule the Earth. The new Israeli Supreme Court funded by the Rothschilds Banklords is full of Masonic Symbols, just like the B.I.S. Bank of International Settlements in Basel, Switzerland, which is the Mother of All Private Central Banks.
The hexagram symbol on the Israeli flag is the ancient Star of Moloch, a Satanic-Baal deity to which people were sacrificed. There is no such thing as a Star of David which the modern Jews have been fooled into believing; however, the True Torah Jews are not fooled by the Zionists Illuminatis and you can visit their websites for more info .
1. Sanhedrin 59a: "Murdering Goyim is like killing a wild animal."
2. Abodah Zara 26b: "Even the best of the Gentiles should be killed."
3. Sanhedrin 59a: "A goy (Gentile) who pries into The Law (Talmud) is guilty of death."
4. Yebhamoth 11b: "Sexual intercourse with a little girl is permitted if she is three years of age."
5. Schabouth Hag. 6d: "Jews may swear falsely by use of subterfuge wording."
6. Hilkkoth Akum X1: "Do not save Goyim in danger of death."
7. Hilkkoth Akum X1: "Show no mercy to the Goyim."
8. Choschen Hamm 388, 15: "If it can be proven that someone has given the money of Israelites to the Goyim, a way must be found after prudent consideration to wipe him off the face of the earth."
9. Choschen Hamm 266,1: "A Jew may keep anything he finds which belongs to the Akum (Gentile). For he who returns lost property (to Gentiles) sins against the Law by increasing the power of the transgressors of the Law. It is praiseworthy, however, to return lost property if it is done to honor the name of God, namely, if by so doing, Christians will praise the Jews and look upon them as honorable people."
10. Szaaloth-Utszabot, The Book of Jore Dia 17: "A Jew should and must make a false oath when the Goyim asks if our books contain anything against them."
11. Baba Necia 114, 6: "The Jews are human beings, but the nations of the world are not human beings but beasts."
12. Simeon Haddarsen, fol. 56-D: "When the Messiah comes every Jew will have 2800 slaves."
13. Nidrasch Talpioth, p. 225-L: "Jehovah created the non-Jew in human form so that the Jew would not have to be serv
Actually you can. Not trash houses either. Real stick built houses. But most are at least 2 hours and more from an urban area. But when you do the math, take a pay cut of 50% but your housing is 1/10 what it would cost you in an urban area. Plus you won't have to live near any undesireable minorities. Economical living in a crime free zone is awesome.
Ask nearly every recent stem college grad.
Real stick built houses. But most are at least 2 hours and more from an urban area.
In your experience, what effect does a four hour round trip commute to and from work in your field have on your morale?
I hear Foxconn is hiring.
Each wall is retrofitted with giant screens and you pay by watching ads, which lights are powered by our students on bicycles.
Mark Zukerberg wants college votes in 2020
Maybe open up Zuckerbers wall so they can get to the ocean and their land? Oh, wait! I forgot, excepts for the pigs and the dogs. It is easy being a "socialist" when you are a billionaire and scheme to end up ruling the place. His presidential campaigning is getting so transparent its ridiculous.
Zucker berg has a long hisstory now building and developing real estate and then successfully spinning the PR I and manipulating the press to obfuscate what is really going on.
Examples: his house near Liberty St in SF. Initial press coverage notes it's a modest remodel. Then he filed 100 change orders that turn it into a huge development. Those change orders escape press coverage.
A huge purchase in Hawaii that is somehow spun as conservation when it's really a huge vacation property for his family.
And this. This ris really just a huge multi million square foot office development. But that would look bad: adding tons more people to an already over crowded Menlo Park. So hey, let's make the story about a tiny amount of affordable housing! What is really causing less housing on the SF Penninsula is increasing numbers of workers who want to live close to work, get paid a lot, and crowd out others.
Sad to see how the press laps up Facebook propaganda.
Read between the lines:
A cheaper Facebook slave population!
This isn't new. The town of Hershey PA is a factory town built by Milton's desire to leave a crazy legacy. I'm surprised a billionaire like Zuckerberg hasn't incorporated a town in his name yet.
Here! We'll "let" you live in housing we create! You can live here, work here! Oh, by the way, we'll CHARGE you 2-3 times normal, so basically you'll be a slave! Congrats!
They plan on underpaying you so much that you can only work there by living in their affordable housing units? Sounds kinda like sharecropping...
History has shown us that things get bad when the boss also owns your home (and your grocery, and your car, hell even your whole town!). It's as bad as state owned everything.
Will there be a Trump Tower there? Er, I mean Zuck Tower.
Looks like FB wished it was located in the EU; affordable housing, public transport, coherent urban planning... everything except the human rights regulations.
Actually, it would be going back to the days of Serfdom more than slavery. It's kind of how the world is going to have to work when classes aren't able to afford to live even with a job. The companies will essentially provide everything so long as they do the work. Ie. Serfdom.
Andrew Carnegie would be proud.
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