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Ask Slashdot: What Software (Or Hardware) Glitch Makes You Angry?

This question was inspired when Slashdot reader TheRealHocusLocus found their laptop "in the throes of a Windows 10 Update," where "progress has rolled past 100% several times and started over." I pushed the re-schedule dialogue to the rear and left it waiting. But my application did not count as activity and I left for a few moments, so Windows decided to answer its own question and restart (breaking a persistent Internet connection)... I've had it. Upon due consideration I now conclude I have been personally f*ck'd with. Driver availability, my apps and WINE permitting, this machine is getting Linux or pre-Windows-8...

That's mine, now let's hear about the things that are pushing you over the edge this very minute. Phones, software, power windows, anything.

There's a longer version of this story in the original submission -- but what's bugging you today? Leave your best answers in the comments. What software (or hardware glitch) makes you angry?

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  1. No unicode on Slashdot. by phantomfive · · Score: 5, Funny

    No unicode on Slashdot. All I ask for is a Thorn!

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    1. Re:No unicode on Slashdot. by Rei · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Exactly what I've been asking for for ages!

      Slashdot doesn't need to allow all of unicode (feel free to leave out emoji, for example), but at least allow common letters and symbols. Slashdot's current behavior - silently stripping them - is terrible. It can distort the meaning of text - when talking about foreign matters, when using math / science symbols, etc. It's made me look like an idiot several times - e.g. there's a world of difference between "My morning coffee is fine, but 10(DEGREE MARK) more would be perfect" and "My morning coffee is fine, but 10 more would be perfect". And thorn is a common letter where I live, so whenever I mention people or place names from where I am they get mangled. I've also had problems copy-pasting text from other sites that happened to have unicode symbols in them. On occasion, rather than silently stripping them, Slashdot has instead transformed them into gibberish.

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    2. Re:No unicode on Slashdot. by Rei · · Score: 4, Informative

      Lol, just ran into two Google easter eggs that I'd never heard of before - searching for "blink tag" or "marquee tag" cause google to blink and marquee their respective search results ;)

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  2. Not much by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Switched to Linux several years ago for the final time. Although some GUI-bugs here and there, I get around them, and not looking back. Keeping W7 in a VM and only for the 2-3 Windows applications I still use now and then. Forget Wine, find and support alternatives.

    Forced W10 at work and lose productivity and motivation to work due to that and cloud solutions being rammed from above.

    1. Re:Not much by TheRealHocusLocus · · Score: 5, Funny

      I run Linux and Windowsin each others' virtual machines. You can begin with either one running the other. Then create a VM of the outermost OS inside the inner VM. Apply a bit of soap to the screen and hook four standard C-clamps to the innermost VM's window and the edge of the physical monitor. Then just each of the clamps a twist every few minutes and in a day or two the innermost VM window will be stretching against its parent. Line them up carefully and get a friend to help you, four hands at once are needed to get the inner window to 'snap' over the larger, otherwise you will just be chasing both around the screen. With four hands give the clamps a full twist and you will hear a 'PING!' sound.

      Once the inner VM has snapped past the outer, continue to tighten all clamps until it is stretched/drawn to the corners of the screen. Then finally tap the clamps off with a sharp blow from of a hammer. As the last clamp is removed the computer will make a strange sound, as the machine's OS merges with the innermost VM. You have now created a Klein Nested VM with unique properties.

      Since the original outer-to-inner paradigm has been broken both VMs are simultaneously child and parent of one another, and relative merit and demerit of each OS also (strangely) enters a tesseract-like state. Any two OS 'bred' together in this way become 'best of breed'.

      You will also discover that the hardware abstraction layer has itself become an abstraction! Go ahead, gently tug the computer across the desk. You will see the spookily entangled OS hovering in the original position. You can even toss the computer you won't be needing it.

      But if you move house you'll have to do it again. Before attempting this it is good to consult your lease to see if it may subject you to penalties or threats of eviction.

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  3. Y2K bug - in 2014! by dbIII · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The thing that pissed me off in a major way was the flexlm "protection" software that was changed so that a perpetual license expired in the year 2000. It took a few weeks for that to be resolved before the stupidly expensive software that was "protected" could be used.
    For added laughs their USB dongle updater used MSDOS stuff and would not work in a 64 bit operating system. How that happened I have no idea since they must have had to add USB support to MSDOS to get that problem to happen in the first place.

    1. Re:Y2K bug - in 2014! by Megane · · Score: 2

      I have a USB-based EPROM programmer (Needhams EMP-31?) which only has a 32-bit USB driver. WTF? The company was bought out in early 200x just before x64 became a thing, and the big fish company simply threw their whole product line out the back door. This was also before libusb and "user-land drivers for everything on USB" became a thing. (Even then, Windows might still want INF-only "driver" to tell it to fuck off and leave the thing alone instead of installing its own retarded driver. AIUI, Windows has had a crappy CDC serial driver at least through Windows 7.)

      From what I have heard, the base reason for this WTF was that it probably emulated a bit-banged parallel port over USB in a way that required a Windows driver. So because of how it hooked itself into Windows, it had a driver incompatible with 64-bit mode. I now keep it together with a crappy old white-era Dell Insprion with 32-bit XP installed.

      Windows started with a brain-damaged USB subsystem that wants to freaking re-install a driver completely if you merely plug a device into another port. Sometimes that's useful when a particular driver instance gets fucked. Windows has maintained that brain damage for over 15 years since then.

      So yeah, my gripe is that Windows has always had crap USB support. At least I normally use OS X, so I only have to use Windows (which I still keep at Windows 7) for playing games.

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    2. Re:Y2K bug - in 2014! by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 2

      Windows started with a brain-damaged USB subsystem that wants to freaking re-install a driver completely if you merely plug a device into another port. Sometimes that's useful when a particular driver instance gets fucked. Windows has maintained that brain damage for over 15 years since then.

      Even worse, if the USB subsystem needs to assign a 'Com' port to a USB connection, it will assign a new Com port (Com4, Com5, Com6... Com28) to the same peripheral each time it's plugged into a different USB port on the machine. This can get ridiculous if you, say, are working with an Arduino and lose track of which USB connector you plugged it into last.

      It also creates a mess if you have USB to RS-232C adaptors that you mix-and-match to get legacy ports. Eventually you have to dig into the 'Device Manager' and force it to display unconnected drivers to clear out a bunch of the old driver instances.

  4. Forced restart. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    "You have to restart your computer in order for the changes from this patch to apply" [Ok] [Cancel]

    "The software have been succesfully applied" [Ok]

    Pressing OK restarts the computer.

  5. Windows focus by Kokuyo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    When I'm typing on my keyboard and some application thinks it's important enough not just to pop up in front of all the other windows but also move the cursor to its windows.

    Especially funny when you're entering an internal password with a customer looking over your shoulder.

    I also very much hate it when I enter a domain and the browser goes "Oh, I know tha tone! Let me autocomplete that for you, even though you hit enter after the ".com""

    I want the computer to sopt trying to think for me until it's actually smarter than me. But at that point, I want to be able to copy a url, a username and a password and just hit ctrl+v three times and the system pastes the correct value in each field.

    1. Re:Windows focus by mwvdlee · · Score: 2

      When I'm typing on my keyboard and some application thinks it's important enough not just to pop up in front of all the other windows but also move the cursor to its windows.

      Especially funny when you're entering an internal password with a customer looking over your shoulder.

      This has been a complaint I've had since the earliest versions of Windows.
      I don't think it's the application controlling this, but the OS, which makes it even more egregious as the OS can actually know the keyboard is being used in another application.

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    2. Re:Windows focus by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Exactly. I used Windows XP for several years and finally jumped to 7 after 10 was released. I immediately noticed a change in the way the OS gives focus to windows. In Windows XP if you were active in one window, no other window could get auto-focus. The best it could was 1) flash the taskbar entry 2) draw on top of the active window but not have focus. The exception was, if the active program launches another one, eg browser launches the default app for the file you downloaded. Or through user interaction eg start->programs->X program. In fact there is a specific WINAPI call that lets you give your "focus rights" to another applications. eg when you launch a program and that program checks if there is another instance running. It communicates with it to show the mainwindow or a dialog and exits itself. Without the WINAPI call that older instance wouldn't get the focus. That WINAPI is AllowSetForegroundWindow
      Now, in Windows 7 it seems that at least newly started apps can steal focus. I don't know what happens for already running ones.

    3. Re:Windows focus by Tony+Isaac · · Score: 2

      It's not the OS that controls the focus, and this is the problem.. When writing a Windows application, any programmer can write code that says "I want to receive the focus now." This makes it necessary for every application to behave properly, which of course they don't.

    4. Re:Windows focus by Tony+Isaac · · Score: 2

      Yes, the Windows focus issue is also especially bad when you're typing, and a confirmation dialog box pops up just as you press the spacebar in between words, and the spacebar presses the "Yes" button of whatever you were being asked.

    5. Re:Windows focus by 140Mandak262Jamuna · · Score: 3

      The programmer can write any shit he wants, the OS should not respect the demand from the application without proper permissions. Demanding focus is a privileged command. At least we should have a matching, "Do not give focus to any other application" to other programs. And a click to specifically gives focus overrides both and resolves conflicts.

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    6. Re:Windows focus by CODiNE · · Score: 4, Insightful

      There needs to be a slight UI freeze of a quarter second or so whenever a dialog or prompt jumps up unexpectedly. This is a universal problem.

      iOS, Android, Windows, Mac, Linux all of them. You're typing a command and JUUUUSST as you press enter a dialog comes out of nowhere and you just pressed "Ok" on who knows what! It's worse for people who look at the keyboard while typing, they don't even know anything happened.

      Mobile... you're taping away like normal and all the sudden just as your finger is microns from the screen a dialog shows up and you tapped.... whatever it was. Probably just accepted a mysterious self-signed certificate on an important service that definitely shouldn't have one.

      There needs to be a tiny inactive period on those so you can't just confirm something in the middle of something else by mistake. The OS can easily handle this without any app code changes since it owns the dialogs.

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    7. Re:Windows focus by Solandri · · Score: 2

      Ironically, Microsoft tried to get around this problem in Win 10 (maybe Win 8 as well) by not giving focus to notifications during Windows Update. Unfortunately they also didn't pop it up as the top window on your desktop. Several times I've had Windows Update "get stuck." I'd let the computer sit for several hours to see if it'd finish, but no progress. Eventually I'd give up and restart the computer. During shutdown all the program windows would close one by one. Just as the last one closes, it would briefly reveal a dialog box for Windows Update underneath it, waiting for me to hit OK before Update would continue. Then the computer would shutdown and restart.

      Unlike Unix/Linux which has a well developed concept for focus (floating focus following your mouse cursor is my favorite), Microsoft has never quite gotten focus quite right. It used to be the top-most window always got focus, which was why we had the problem of a dialog box popping up as you were typing stealing 'space' or 'enter' as OK and immediately vanishing before you could read it. They're trying to address it, make it more Unix-like, but it seems some vestige of that old code is forcing notification dialogs to appear underneath other windows because they're insisting it not have focus.

      Then you've got this stupid flat design trend in UI which makes it impossible to tell which window in a stack has focus. Stupid designers assume everyone uses "window on top has focus" when that's precisely what we need to move away from.

  6. Re:When it lies, or doesn't say what it wants by Zontar+The+Mindless · · Score: 3, Insightful

    When my computer's OS lies by stating a username/password combination is wrong, when actually the account has been (temporary) disabled.

    That's standard security practise, and it's actually for good reason.

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  7. Re:Linux kernel and Xorg not supporting ABIs by Zontar+The+Mindless · · Score: 3, Informative

    Drivers NEVER have to be re-compiled.

    False. You just make yourself dependent on the good will of vendors to perform the builds for you, since they won't let you have the sources.

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  8. Re:When it lies, or doesn't say what it wants by loonycyborg · · Score: 4, Informative

    The security practice is about not telling whether you got username or password wrong, to avoid revealing existing account names to possible attackers. However if username/password combo is correct then there is no security reason for the system to hide the fact that account was disabled. Telling the real reason of login failure would save the now known authentic user possible futile attempts to reenter password thinking that he made a typo.

  9. Adobe by darkain · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Photoshop and Lightroom. I'm more or less forced to use these tools because all competing products dropped off the face of the Earth, so there is no viable alternative to the work that I do (yes, I know there are some RAW processors out there, but they don't have the feature set that I need for my job) - but PS and LR are so god awful fucking buggy pieces of shit. Over four years ago, LR5 Beta introduced a UI bug. It made it into production. It continued to exist in LRCC/6. It continues to this day. Yes, over four years for a stupid UI bug. Photoshop is so notorious for crashing, they implemented a crash recovery system that never works! Oddly enough, today PS "recovered" a photo from a crash from six weeks ago, despite the fact I've been using PS nearly daily since then until now. DRM is both also routinely fail at LEAST once a week, even though they are supposed to go 30+ days without a phone home connection. LR-CC had a very nice DRM bug in which it 100% failed for everyone at launch! Luckily THAT was patched quicky.

    1. Re:Adobe by TheRealHocusLocus · · Score: 5, Funny

      Photoshop and Lightroom. I'm more or less forced to use these tools because all competing products dropped off the face of the Earth

      GRAB GOD by the GONADS and GO for GIMP. If you're completely familiar with Photoshop's menus, methods and basic tool functionality you'll have no problem going gibbering insane from Gimp's arbitrary different-ness. Gimp is so unique and unPhotoshopy you'll have to resort to extreme measures to learn it. This means find a cabin deep in the woods, bring a generator and lots of gasoline to stay there during the re-training process. Notify nearby law enforcement of your intentions.

      Start by building your own Photoshop-to-Gimp cheat sheet but don't use paper, it soon gets clouded and smudged with tears and spittle. Carve your notes in a wooden desk or the computer case itself with a large bowie knife. Find an uncomfortable funny hat to wear and hog-tie your left arm to your right ear so your body has a unique tactile sensation while learning Gimp's idiosyncrasies. You should always use Gimp this way while wearing the hat, so if you need to use Photoshop again releasing the bonds will permit you to recall its use (and relate to friend and family you knew before you switched to Gimp) more easily.

      It is good to notify your insurance company you intend to switch to Gimp. Failure to do so might indemnify them from paying out if they learn you are using it, whether the calamity is traceable to Gimp or not. This is where tipping off local law enforcement helps. Inexperienced detectives sometimes gloss over important details in their reports at the mere note of Gimp. I want to give you the best possible chance to spare yourself legal complications.

      And by all means, experiment with the powerful scripting languages and hooks that Gimp provides. Since you'll probably lose touch with friends and family, these scripting tasks can occupy your mind as you descend into your poignantly silent darkness of the soul. There are some good books that may help you learn Gimp but I cannot tell you which ones, my copies have pages missing with bite marks. I think the pages were eaten.

      The author had successfully trained himself in Gimp, but its details of operation are presently clouded by prescribed medication. Author has done desktop publishing for 25 years and has used Aldus Pagemaker, Adobe InDesign and Quark spanning 8 continents.

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  10. Easy: DRM by Halueth · · Score: 2

    I get furious when a paid-for piece of software thinks I'm not allowed to use it. So I consider that broken bij design.

  11. Auto Update, Jumping webpages, autoplay by n2hightech · · Score: 2

    Auto update that closes open applications with unsaved work in progress, How hard would it be to send save commands before closing a file and appending a WIP designator to the file name so nothing is over written. That should be a standard required windows feature. Webpages that jump during load have popover, popunder or autoscroll. The fricking browser should be designed to not even allow these things to happen. The commands that even allow those things to happen should be banned and the people who thought them up drawn and quartered. It would make for a much much friendlier web experience to make the web flat again. But the most annoying thing that forces me to keep the volume muted on my computer is the autoplay curse. Web pages that somehow play video or audio when they open. I want my computer to do as its told speak when its told show video when told and stop when told. Any programmer that does not create software that enforces that basic human machine interface rule is a curse to mankind.

  12. Angry? by CustomSolvers2 · · Score: 2

    I see bugs, non-ideal behaviours, wrong approaches, easily-improvable bits, etc. almost every day in virtually any piece of software. The software which I develop might also include bugs. Everyone makes errors. How could I feel angry about any of this? I would be constantly angry! What kind of life would be that? I find most of bugs funny or irrelevant. Some of them might be somehow annoying, but I would plainly ignore them or even stop using that software.

    A different story is gross incompetence, careless/abusive attitudes (sometimes, even intentionally!) or dishonest reactions. I wouldn't feel angry in these cases either, but might stop taking that company seriously or have a more aggressive reaction.

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  13. Re:Cant repair office 2013/16 by Billly+Gates · · Score: 2

    If you have Office 365 you can download it again free at office.com. Just use your login ID for your account information. One of the good things to using it as a service is you do not have to fiddle with license keys. If you use the home edition go to outlook.com to log into your tenant and download office.

    Also there is the Microsoft office uninstaller at Microsoft's website and a vbscript version too that Microsoft uses if you google for it to do a full scrub and clean.

    Last if this is in an office then your system administrator is not doing a good job. AutoKMS on A.D. needs to be enabled so that message never pops up.

  14. My car. Still on same SW version it came with. by seoras · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Car manufacturers are the worst for software updates. Some worse than others. There's a couple of stupid little bugs in the audio system of my 3 year old car, that make it too painful to use, that could be fixed easily enough with a software update but probably will never get one.
    The dealer and manufacturer are aware of the problems. The dealer just gives me a blank look when I ask when a fix is coming.
    It's that lack of appreciation of software's importance that sank the likes of Nokia et al in the mobile phone market.
    I fully expect the same to happen to the traditional big car manufacturers, they deserve it.

  15. Re:Linux kernel and Xorg not supporting ABIs by Zontar+The+Mindless · · Score: 5, Interesting

    A few years ago, I bought a 64-bit laptop that came with 32-bit Windows. I put 64-bit Windows on it only to discover that the wifi card had no 64-bit Windows driver. Period. I found that there was a Linux driver for the same card for which source was available. So I put 64-bit Linux on the machine, got the source for the driver and one make && make install later I had a 64-bit machine running a 64-bit OS with all hardware supported, including wifi. Something that was not possible using Windows, in spite of the fact that the machine came with Windows on it, for neither love nor money.

    You like letting your vendors make your decisions for you, fine. But don't try to pretend that isn't what it is.

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  16. Deliberately breaking software... by msauve · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This is to you, Mozilla, Google, Firefox...

    STOP deliberately breaking things. I don't care that my 5 year old IOT thing uses HTTPs with old encryption. I don't care that it uses self-signed certificates. It's still better than unencrypted, and I can't update it. You just deliberately broke things so now I'm forced to use unencrypted communications - what idiot decided that's better than even weak encryption? Put up a warning, fine, but don't break it. Idiots.

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  17. Browser memory leaks (especially, Chrome on OS X) by IHTFISP · · Score: 2

    There is no excuse for professionally written code to suffer memory leaks.

    Over time, the Chrome browser (on OS X) leaks more and more memory until it eventually loses screen synch and flickers on scrolling refresh. Eventually, it just locks up and crashes. This has been the case for at least 10 years.

    I don't care what the excuse, professionally written programs should never crash due to memory leaks. Ever. Period.

    I'm sure Bing has similar issues on Windows, but Google should do better w/ Chrome on OS X & Linux. They should be ashamed.

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  18. Re:That computers do what I say.... by TheRealHocusLocus · · Score: 5, Interesting

    In the days before on-screen spellcheck there was a lady at our printshop who was voracious and speedy reader, but she was also a perfect final proofreader. Try as we might all we could do is plod along but she was fast and caught everything, every misspelling, word choice error, even inconsistent spaces. I asked her how one day. She made two passes over every paragraph, the first eyeballing the words in reverse order while noting only spelling and spacing. Then (in double-time she said) moving forward sounding the language normally for meaning, style and grammar.

    While she was reverse reading she said, there was NO mental distraction from the actual message, to her it was like being presented a series of word puzzles/problems in a sort of "game" mode. Perhaps you could adapt yourself to examine troublesome code meticulously in reverse sequence this way while not perceiving the task. You seemingly work in some type of overlay mode where as you lay it down you are reproducing a (fuzzy) mental image.

    If everything compiles perfectly in your brain, just use that and to blazes with the computer. Best of luck.

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  19. Hiding UI functionality by lordlod · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Programs which hide (delete) menu entries based on state.

    I once spent two days trying to figure out how to recover a low quality software raid disk because the recover menu entry had been deleted and the documentation was useless. The menu entry to start the recovery wasn't visible until the spare disk had been precisely configured as the software wanted. Of course with no feedback of that being the case I was left searching through the interface and floundering around until I managed to luck into the solution.

    1. Re:Hiding UI functionality by MoarSauce123 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Same applies to the horrible ribbon menus. Especially in MSO they are a shape-shifting horror. Why would anyone think that I do not want to change formatting while working in tables? Constantly have to switch between the big hunking ribbon menus. The menu system was the least of the problems in MSO. Worse, that effen ribbon now pops up in every app, Microsoft or not. I hate it! Dumbest UI change ever, worst user experience since Zuse invented the computer!

  20. None Specific - More General by EmagGeek · · Score: 2

    Generally, I resent becoming a beta tester for literally everything. It seems like some time in the mid 90s, companies started doing away with in-house validation and decided that consumers would be the new quality control auditors, because almost every electronic/computer/software product I've bought since then has been utter shit, with a constant stream of patches, bug fixes, and other problems that should have been flushed out before the products were ever released.

    Almost everything sold to day is chock full-o-glitches, gaping security holes, fatal errata, and other things that should never be shipped to consumers.

  21. Re: When it lies, or doesn't say what it wants by ThosLives · · Score: 2

    This. I recently switched jobs and went from a Mac to Windows10. Why is that if I fat-finger my password on Win10 it takes 15 seconds for it to let me re-type it? (I know the reasons, but they are...questionable.)

    In general, what irks me most typically aren't glitches, but annoying design decisions. These are the main ones for me:

    • Hardware: coil whine.
    • Office 2016: all that slow typing animation. And the windows even drag slowly. There is a registry hack (seriously?) to fix the typing one, but no solution for the window drag one.
    • Windows10: still can't handle connecting and disconnecting additional monitors. Windows stuck off-screen or sized incorrectly, etc. And this is on a laptop that is used in two locations, so is always swapping between the *same* two external monitors.
    • Windows10: still treats the same piece of hardware (e.g., mouse) as a different device depending on the particular USB port to which it's connected. Same mouse, different port, must install new drivers, resets mouse speed settings, etc.
    • My BluRay player: When it connects to the net, it displays a nuisance modal dialog box saying "network connected" (only show me one if there is an error).
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  22. Body by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    - Same hole used for eating, drinking, and breathing
    - Same hole used for liquid excretory function and pleasure release
    - Same hole used for solid excretory function and object input
    - Self copy feature confused with pleasure feature
    - No updates, ever
    - The only fixes are user-created workarounds and patches from expensive industry

  23. Re:When it lies, or doesn't say what it wants by Bert64 · · Score: 2

    Actually in a work environment the computer belongs to the company, so it's their final call and the employee has to put up with it (or quit) even if the company made stupid decisions.

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  24. Re: When it lies, or doesn't say what it wants by Bert64 · · Score: 2

    Locking individual accounts is also a bad idea, it allows someone to intentionally lock out other's accounts causing a very easy denial of service.
    Also attackers won't usually try thousands of passwords against 1 account as thats not very effective, they are more likely to try the 10 most common password against thousands of accounts.

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  25. Re:When it lies, or doesn't say what it wants by dougTheRug · · Score: 5, Informative

    Oracle here. The reason is that if you say "That account is locked out" then the attacker can enumerate the valid usernames. If bobama is valid user but gwbush is not, then you can try gwbush with random passwords six times and it will still say "Username password combination is incorrect." Whereas with bobama it would say "bobama account is locked out," confirming the existence of the account for further targeting. So, loonycyborg's problem is the error message should be correct, which would be "You could not be logged on with those credentials. Try again or contact your system administrator."

  26. Scroll Jacking by Luthair · · Score: 2

    **** those idiots.

    Also, *** websites that scroll into a different article after reaching the end of the current one.

  27. Re: When it lies, or doesn't say what it wants by John+Napkintosh · · Score: 2, Insightful

    So you're saying successful login is bad because it indicates credentials are correct?

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  28. Re:When it lies, or doesn't say what it wants by Wrath0fb0b · · Score: 2

    Yes there is.

    (1) If an account is disabled, we have to believe it's possible that it is currently under a brute-force password attack. The attacker may be trying to learn the password or he may be trying to generate a list of valid usernames. Our goal is to prevent him for doing either.

    (2) If an attacker is brute-forcing the password, we should make sure that correct and incorrect passwords give the same result so the attacker doesn't learn the correct one. In your example, the attacker would know when he got the password right because the response would switch from "Invalid Password" to "Account Disabled".

    (3) Even if the system requires the user to change the password to something different, letting the attacker learn the password in his attack is dangerous because many users use the same or similar passwords (!!!) on various accounts.

    An alternative approach, by the way, that might satisfy your requirement is to allow nonexistent usernames to be "disabled" with the same incorrect attempt policy as real accounts. So then you can safely return "Account Disabled" for every single login attempt after the 5th and you aren't an oracle for either the username or password correctness.

  29. Re:Working on it ... by TheRealHocusLocus · · Score: 4, Funny

    "Working on it ..." and a green progress bar. I have just a few (maybe 60) entries. The damn thing cant open a folder with a few files without making me wait. WTF MS???

    Many happy little committees have met over the years to help you. All of their ideas were Good Ideas. Every idea only "increased loading by 0.x percent!" but the combined percentages have added to 20,000% thus far. And some of the ideas were APIs for Microsoft Partners and Script Kiddie Partners to sink their pus-filled meat hooks into your bloated registry to affect basic computer operation. Every time you open a folder...

    All 32x32 icons on the system are upsampled to 1024x1024 and scaled down again; Microsoft Security Essentials loads completely, realizes you turned it off a year ago, then unloads; Windows checks for updates; Internet explorer checks to see if it is the default browser (it isn't); two dozen corrupted registry branches left by incomplete installs are accessed and the system looks for 50 programs that aren't there; the ILOOKATEVERYTHING utility is run because it installed a registry to look at everything though you have never used it; Windows converts extensions to MIMETYPES and back again just for shits and giggles; media handlers load in multiple threads; folder display flags are inexplicably set to the dumbest view possible; everything is alphabetized; Windows re-sorts by 'group'; a blank window is shown; media apps are struggling to produce thumbnails; (W10 only) inactivity! Time to reboot NOW for updates; Cortana thought she heard you grunt, she transmits a voice-snippet over HTTPS; SSL certificate services loads causing everything else to swap out; certificates are checked for revocation because Paranoid Nerd Is Paranoid; media hooks still trying to make thumbnails; problems with media length detection on improperly encoded files causes long delay, then length is discarded anyway because "..." no one asked for it or there's no room on the display; now media metatag information is being accessed for NO DAMNED REASON; cute (but empty) film borders are painted, what the hell are film sprockets?? Where are those thumbnails??; file names finally appear, mostly hidden after "..."; virus checkers are invoked, both the one you use and the other OEM checker that Windows doesn't know is still operational; twenty smartphone-specific pieces of bullshit code briefly run and then exit (every second); a media codec triggers an Internet lookup for mysterious reasons; DNS delays stall 10 threads and an indeterminate amount of resources; DESKTOP.INI is accessed for Windows 95 compatibility; mouse pointer turns into a pointer for a moment just to torture you then flips to 'busy' again; Windows has synchronously finished counting files, GOLLY GEE, now you have an (unclickable) scroll bar; thumbnails finally starting to come in; dipshit 'subdirectory logic' is triggered for subfolders, all this shit starts to happen for them too; subfolder shit completes and the calculated result is discarded because it wasn't to be displayed anyway; OH HOLY SHIT, ANIMATE/THROB is on, we need more power Scotty because we need moving thumbnails; 3rd party media apps run to see if they are needed now (they're not); you clicked the right mouse button on an item to attempt to regain control which actually starts a whole new CONTEXT MENU WORLD OF SHIT completely separate from this shit; hold on, CrystalFonts has to smooth the edges before you can get control; timeouts for stalled threads finally trigger (cleanup routines delaying you again); a whole second goes by where everything is finished or stalled; inactivity triggers fire making you think the waking nightmare is still going on; finally THE FOLDER HAS BEEN DISPLAYED.

    Queued mouse and keyboard desperation events have been detected! Launch stuff you clicked on, push that button that wasn't even there when you clicked, display a context menu and a balloon tool tip containing useless junk and wasn't that easy.

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  30. Re: Long file paths in Windows 10 File Explorer by ColdWetDog · · Score: 2

    Uh Oh.

    We've summoned the Old Ones.

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  31. Re:Accidental click on dialog box button by toddestan · · Score: 2

    What more common and just as annoying is when you're typing and a dialog box pops up and steals focus, and you inadvertently select some option because you're still typing and you have no idea what you just did.

    Also, when you go to click on something on a webpage that's still loading, and the browser decides to redraw the page at that very instant, and you click on something else because the thing now is to make the entire webpage a clickable element for some stupid reason.

  32. Ambient Authority by ka9dgx · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Ambient Authority in all of our operating systems is the cause of most of our grief, and the fact that most technical people don't even realize it's happening makes it even worse.

    It's going to be about 5 more years until everyone wakes the fsck up, and another 10 years to finally fix things.

  33. Re: Long file paths in Windows 10 File Explorer by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 2

    Saying things like that discredits you. There has been a LOT of differentiation between Windows versions. Microsoft has done things that were vast improvements, and they've rolled things back to Windows being a horror show. The quality back and forth is typical of any large organization's product.

  34. Re: When it lies, or doesn't say what it wants by MightyMartian · · Score: 2

    No, I'm saying is there's an account lock out due to too many login attempts, the last thing you want the OS reporting is "I can't let you because the account is locked out, but way to go entering the right credentials!"

    I can go on any of my outward-facing routers and watch the brute force login attacks, at least a couple a minute, even with mechanisms in place to shut down obvious hacking connections. Further, we have a RD server sitting on an open port, and it too faces these sorts of attacks, so no, I don't want confirmation of correct credentials after an account is locked out.

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