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US To Create the Independent US Cyber Command, Split Off From NSA (pbs.org)
An anonymous reader quotes a report from PBS: After months of delay, the Trump administration is finalizing plans to revamp the nation's military command for defensive and offensive cyber operations in hopes of intensifying America's ability to wage cyberwar against the Islamic State group and other foes, according to U.S. officials. Under the plans, U.S. Cyber Command would eventually be split off from the intelligence-focused National Security Agency. The goal, they said, is to give U.S. Cyber Command more autonomy, freeing it from any constraints that stem from working alongside the NSA, which is responsible for monitoring and collecting telephone, internet and other intelligence data from around the world -- a responsibility that can sometimes clash with military operations against enemy forces. Making cyber an independent military command will put the fight in digital space on the same footing as more traditional realms of battle on land, in the air, at sea and in space. The move reflects the escalating threat of cyberattacks and intrusions from other nation states, terrorist groups and hackers, and comes as the U.S. faces ever-widening fears about Russian hacking following Moscow's efforts to meddle in the 2016 American election.
This was actually something that was started at the end of last year by Obama, and has been needed for a very long time. It has just taken this long for the meetings and paperwork to be completed.
Russian language skills definitely a plus.
You are welcome on my lawn.
"freeing it from any constraints that stem from working alongside the NSA"
Given everything we know now, what possible constraints can the NSA be working under? Possibly "Do not wake the Elders Ones.", but other than that, what?
I'd be more worried about things like the OPM hack (which occurred during Obama's reign of neglect) than I would about the widely debunked claims of Russian "hacking" the US election.
There has long been a need to set up a "cyber command" with the authority to force US Government agencies to upgrade their IT systems and security. It has nothing to do with the fake "Russian hacking" news.
Go RoboTrump, Golden King of the Cyber.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posse_Comitatus_Act
When has the NSA stayed inside bounds that the country would require an agency acting outside of?
What do they need done that apparently not even the sickos at Camp X-Ray were willing to do for them?
okay, the NSA violates the constitution against it's own citizens, as well as routinely breaks any number of laws, and they need MORE?!? The last thing any government department is less oversight. This sounds like someone attempt to get more data to somewhere in a space people like high lever officials (say Senators for example) are less likely (or able) to check up on things. Would be a lot easier to pipe data to..say..Russia.
"Imagination is more important than knowledge" - Einstein
Is a pocket protector part of the uniform?
First law of people: People are generally stupid.
The goal, they said, is to give U.S. Cyber Command more autonomy, freeing it from any constraints that stem from working alongside the NSA...
[sarcasm] Great... A government agency with less accountability than the NSA. Just what we all needed more of. [/sarcasm]
"... following Moscow's efforts to meddle in the 2016 American election." Rubbish!
This is not news, or even fact. You are parroting and perpetuating misinformation. After significant effort and expense and, oh, over six months of exhaustive digging, zero evidence can be produced to support this statement. If you're just going to parrot CNN or some other ratings-focused "news" rag, then I can just go there instead of slashdot when I want to be mislead. Seriously, for all the good work you publish here, this kind of drivil really doesn't do you justice and only serves to diminish the credibility of your other posts. You do yourself a grave injustice and insult the intelligence of the slashdot reader. Spare us the thinly disguised and feeble attempt at political commentary.
Reorganizing it from a secretive federal agency to a secretive military subdivision should be all that's needed to fix all our problems.
The average NSA employee is much brighter than the average military employee.
Cyber Show, Idiot
Remember when, after some particularly unsavory sexual assault charges, changed his jersey number in some apparent attempt to rebuild his image?
Or, as Daniel Tosh put it, "Hey, hey, hey - let's be fair. Number 8 was the rapist."
It's questionable the Russians did anything. What was done could have been done by a handful of 15 yearolds. The real story in all this is the people in positions of power that we trust to run government don't have a clue about security and don't take it seriously enough. Lax security.
Stop blaming others when your using the equivalent of Roman locks and wax seals for security.
There are too many intelligence agencies in the US. If politicians were serious about eliminating government waste, they would consolidate all of those agencies into one, Central Intelligence Agency.
Having a bunch of isolated intelligence gathering agencies is how we ended up with Pearl Harbor, and 9/11.
One of our competitors trademarked the term "hypothesis". From now on, we will call them "boneheaded ideas".
So we are definitely going to need the Gun Emoji , perhaps a missile and nuke Emoji too.
Perhaps a gravestone Emoji with "Byte the Dust" would be appropriate too.
"As far as the cyber, I agree to parts of what Secretary Clinton said. We should be better than anybody else, and perhaps we’re not. I don’t think anybody knows that it was Russia that broke into the DNC. She’s saying Russia, Russia, Russia—I don't, maybe it was. I mean, it could be Russia, but it could also be China. It could also be lots of other people. It also could be somebody sitting on their bed that weighs 400 pounds, okay?
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We came in with the Internet. We came up with the Internet. And I think Secretary Clinton and myself would agree very much, when you look at what ISIS is doing with the Internet, they’re beating us at our own game. ISIS.
So we had to get very, very tough on cyber and cyber warfare. It is a huge problem. I have a son—he’s 10 years old. He has computers. He is so good with these computers. It’s unbelievable. The security aspect of cyber is very, very tough. And maybe, it's hardly doable. But I will say, we are not doing the job we should be doing. But that’s true throughout our whole governmental society. We have so many things that we have to do better, Lester. And certainly cyber is one of them."
I for one, am relieved that we have this person making the tough decisions. He'll fix everything with cyber.
I don't respond to AC's.
We need to be protected from this. Cybercommand *Is* a good idea, but let us set it up so 1st it does US no harm.
Believe it or not, spinning it off into a new branch of the military is a GOOD thing for American civilians. Why? The military operates under constraints, scrutiny, and civilian oversight that increasingly seem to NOT apply to "mere" law enforcement agencies (especially post-9/11).
The NSA will now be broken into 2 agencies:
The first will hoard exploits, subvert our cryptography, writing malware and make all electronic communications less secure to spy on bad guys...
and
The second will hoard exploits, subvert our cryptography, writing malware, and make all electronic communications less secure to attack the bad guys?
This is not what many of us had in mind when suggesting to break up the NSA into offensive and defensive roles. The hope was to have one agency undo the messes caused by the other, but instead we now have 2 groups assaulting our liberties instead of one! Just fucking wonderful.
He'll fix everything with THE cyber.
FTFY
That sounds like what he discussed with Putin:
"Putin & I discussed forming an impenetrable Cyber Security unit so that election hacking, & many other negative things, will be guarded."
Donald Trump, July 9th, 2017
https://twitter.com/realDonald...
The next day he said tweeted "The fact that President Putin and I discussed a Cyber Security unit doesn't mean I think it can happen. It can't..." But maybe it can. Perhaps Putin's role in it is one of the "Details [that] are still being worked out, but officials say they expect a decision and announcement in the coming weeks."
"How to Do Nothing," kids activities, back in print!
I don't put much faith in the 1337 skilz of a 400 pound whale. People like that are generally not very motivated and as evidenced by their obesity, not very intelligent.
Only I can judge you.
Why is it not the least bit surprising that Alexander Peter Kowalski is a Trump supporter?
You mean the one on March 26 when Putin was told that he would do more what Putin after the next election?
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APK
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Great!
Now NSA can offload about 2 million Queers, Transvestites, Gays and Lesbians to the new "Command"! Better bring an "aqualung" on the tour of the New Cyber Command Basement Holding Pen!
There are 2 million inmates, stashed away in Tank C, and and there's only one shower, and it don't apply to Bobby!
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Ha ha
Usually the question goes the other way: do you have a reason to *trust* them. Anyhow, there are a few things that make me question them, yes.
They've helped destabilize or backed coups in Iran, Guatemala, North Vietnam, Hungary, Laos, Haiti, Cuba, Dominican Republic, Ecuador, Zaire, Brazil, Indonesia, Greece, Bolivia, Cambodia, Chile, Afghanistan, and probably other places. They've run operations like Operation Mockingbird, they helped with Watergate, etc.
The current operation is about like the lies over the WMD. Secret evidence, tons of stories with nothing in them but anonymous quotes.
And even the ODNI report you allude to is getting inflated. It merely said that hacking the election was something Russia might like to do, it didn't give any actual evidence if you read the damned thing. But what the heck does the Coast Guard know about this, anyhow? Oh, right, you probably didn't know who the members of that were. Or that the people who signed this report were just a couple of political appointees.
Same way you guys probably never read the Trend Micro report which everyone talked about and I think only Ars actually bothered to link to.
But sure, please feel free to show me the 'mountain of evidence' of CNN/WaPo stories that all cite each other, anonymous/secret sources, or the ODNI, Crowdstrike or Trend Micro reports that have jack all in them but an old copy of P.A.S. freeware and some Tor exit nodes. But hey, that Advanced Persistent Threat Fancy Bear is everywhere.
... on the same footing as more traditional realms of battle on land, in the air, at sea and in space ...
Which America is losing, bigly.
It little behooves the best of us to comment on the rest of us.
You're a moron APK. Trump is a traitor and that has NOTHING to do with welfare, food stamps, education/healthcare cuts or anything else.
Stop being Putin's bitch you cunt.
Yet another agency
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APK
P.S.=> See subject: Trump's done a decent job even early in (for no presidential pay). I'm not complaining. You are... apk
on everything is big business.
USA (and NSA) is imo still a terrorist org, despite trying to make NSA look more "defensive" and more like the "good guys". This idea of wanting to say that they should separate NSA from US cyber command is (at least) a few years old now, and I remember it first as an accusation of my own, and as I remember it, then as a suggestion by a prominent technologist now working for US congress.
Btw, their DoD, or Department of Defense used to be called "Department of War" for the longest time, and up til 1947 according to Wikipedia. 1947 was sort of right around the corner after the terror bombing of Hirshima and Nagasaki in WW2.
The government of USA has ZERO credibility with me, and anyone that thinks that NSA has a 'responsibility' to perform espionage against anyone on planet Earth, is imo either a national extremist, and also something of a fascist if also arguing that USA really is the leader of the so called free world as a matter of fact, as if insisting on having me believe in that to be true.
Is this the 14th or 15th intelligence agency for the U.S.? Just another group to hunt for something they can only conveniently identify and be both judge, jury, and executioner. Just be sure to use whatever the current "pop-terror culture" is using, aka whatever you guys decide to whisper in the media's ear to get the most attention. You know how you combat cyber "terrorism?" Invent a time machine and smack every lazy asshole that wanted to go paperless or thought Window$ in a government setting was a good idea. Actually, that's too easy. I say we send back the YouTube girl with the desert eagle and few thick dictionaries. Then again, what happens when two people of equal minor intelligence meet face to face? Usually, nothing good.
For Fuck's Sake: "cyber" is a prefix, it is not a noun all on its own!
I think the first time I heard it used that way was by - no surprise here - then-candidate Donald Trump during a debate. And, as you can hear in that clip, using "cyber" as a noun sounds about as coherent as saying the internet is a series of tubes. Perhaps people have been misusing "cyber" all this time, and I'm only just now noticing. Maybe that moment of idiocy, broadcast to the whole world, just heightened my senses to it, but now I seem to read and hear it all the time. I prefer to think that stupidity is contagious, and Donald Trump is just an index patient.
If your 'officials' had anything as proof of "russian hacking" etc. they'd have it out RIGHT NOW immediately. They have zero & Trump's kid != Trump either & doing opposition research is a norm & she approached HIM first (& he didn't even discuss Hillary w/ her (he knew it was a deceitful setup attempt).
* Seeing as you HAD to unjustifiably downmod last time I posted that common-sense above PROVES you had nothing valid to disprove it as well https://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=10874561&cid=54829653/
APK
P.S.=> Go away fool... apk
It took two years to bring Nixon down. I'm curious as to why you think the timelines should be shorter for Trump. Adults have patience, children do not.
The world's burning. Moped Jesus spotted on I50. Details at 11.
See subject: Where's proof of Trump being a "russian operative" or Russians hacking the vote? It's not. Period...
* Until someone can turn that up (better than CNN's own in Producer John Bonnifield even saying "the russian narrative is bullshit" & Van Jones even said the russian narrative is a "big nothing burger"...), you LOSE...
APK
P.S.=> Long & short of it - I wasn't nuts about Obama OR Bush but I knew they were our Presidents, so don't "put down your own" & deal w/ them UNTIL they are shown majorly "f'ing up" (then help correct that too if possible)... apk
November 17, 1973: Nixon delivers "I am not a crook" speech at a televised press conference at Disney World (Florida).
November 27, 1973: the Senate votes 92 to 3 to confirm Ford as Vice President.
December 6, 1973: the House votes 387 to 35 to confirm Ford as Vice President, and he takes the oath of office an hour after the vote.
January 28, 1974: Nixon campaign aide Herbert Porter pleads guilty to perjury.
February 25, 1974: Nixon personal counsel Herbert Kalmbach pleads guilty to two charges of illegal campaign activities.
March 1, 1974: Nixon is named as an unindicted co-conspirator in an indictment against seven former presidential aides.
March 4, 1974: the "Watergate Seven" (Mitchell, Haldeman, Ehrlichman, Colson, Gordon C. Strachan, Robert Mardian, and Kenneth Parkinson) are indicted.
April 5, 1974: Dwight Chapin convicted of lying to a grand jury.
April 7, 1974: Ed Reinecke, Republican lieutenant governor of California, indicted on three charges of perjury before the Senate committee.
April 16, 1974: Special Prosecutor Jaworski issues a subpoena for 64 White House tapes.
April 30, 1974: White House releases edited transcripts of the Nixon tapes, but the House Judiciary Committee insists the actual tapes must be turned over.
May 9, 1974: Impeachment hearings begin before the House Judiciary Committee.
June 15, 1974: Woodward and Bernstein's book All the President's Men is published by Simon & Schuster (ISBN 0-671-21781-X).
July 24, 1974: United States v. Nixon decided: Nixon is ordered to give up tapes to investigators.
Congress moves to impeach Nixon.
July 27 to July 30, 1974: House Judiciary Committee passes Articles of Impeachment.
Early August 1974: A previously unknown tape from June 23, 1972 (recorded a few days after the break-in) documenting Nixon and Haldeman formulating a plan to block investigations is released. This recording later became known as the "Smoking Gun".
Key Republican Senators tell Nixon that enough votes exist to convict him.
August 8, 1974: Nixon delivers his resignation speech in front of a nationally televised audience.
August 9, 1974: Nixon resigns from office. Gerald Ford becomes president.
* THAT's NOT 2 YRS. YOU EXAGGERATING LIAR!
(It was only a matter of 9 months...)
APK
P.S.=> Source https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... - Now, go back to Canada you BLATANTLY TRANSPARENT SOROS EMPLOYEE... apk
Much of what you state is true, however the reference to WMD is not true.
The intelligence on WMD was accurate, professional, and appropriately skeptical. It was GWB's team that rushed to judgment and pushed the narrative of WMD.
Blame Bush, Cheney, and Rumsfeld if you wish, that would be accurate. Hell, include Powell and Rice if you feel the need. They all wanted to believe the WMDs existed and they slandered Hans Blix, who turned out to be the only genuinely reliable source of information on the matter.
The CIA, NSA and all the rest were pretty clean on the WMD score. They warned the Cabinet that Curveball was a single source and potentially unreliable, among other things.
I realize that in the current "invent your own facts" environment this might not be popular. Then again I was never one for the current fashion.