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Sperm Counts Among Western Men Have Halved In Last 40 Years, Says Study (theguardian.com)

New submitter flote shares a report from The Guardian: Sperm counts among men have more than halved in the last 40 years, research suggests, although the drivers behind the decline remain unclear. The latest findings reveal that between 1973 and 2011, the concentration of sperm in the ejaculate of men in western countries has fallen by an average of 1.4% a year, leading to an overall drop of just over 52%. The study, published in the journal Human Reproduction Update by an international team of researchers, drew on 185 studies conducted between 1973 and 2011, involving almost 43,000 men. The team split the data based on whether the men were from western countries -- including Australia and New Zealand as well as countries in North America and Europe -- or from elsewhere. After accounting for factors including age and how long men had gone without ejaculation, the team found that sperm concentration fell from 99 million per ml in 1973 to 47.1 million per ml in 2011 -- a decline of 52.4% -- among western men unaware of their fertility. For the same group, total sperm count -- the number of sperm in a semen sample -- fell by just under 60%.

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  1. Wild guess by OrangeTide · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Obesisty?

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    1. Re:Wild guess by bogaboga · · Score: 5, Insightful

      No...Blame the food. Whenever I go to those so called 3rd world countries, their fruits taste better, have an aroma and someone can tell that a neighbor is preparing beef or poultry from the perceived smell.

      When one visits the fruit section of some of these so called healthy food stores, not an iota of smell/scent of fruit is perceived! Something is surely wrong here.

    2. Re: Wild guess by arglebargle_xiv · · Score: 5, Funny

      Not being able to belch and fart in public, no more wolf-whistling or swearing like a sailor, the cancellation of the Man Show, eating fscking gluten-free vegan yoghurt steak-substitute, and having to get in touch with our "feelings", not only are sperm counts heading for zero, at this rate we're going to start having periods.

    3. Re:Wild guess by judoguy · · Score: 5, Informative

      Exactly what I was going to post

      Fat = more estrogen = less sperm

      Not to mention the other parts of our diet.

      Try the massive contamination of drinking water with estrogen from birth control pills as well as the estrogen mimickers such as soy products.

      Every time Mr. Skinny Jeans gets a soy Cappuccino along with his Tofu smoothie, goodbye a little of the Mr. and hello a little more of the Ms.

      I'm all for reproductive rights, but if you even mention the possibility that all those birth control pills are screwing up the hormonal balance of literally everything that uses water, at least in the U.S., holey moley, the feminists will scream bloody murder.

      Repeat after me: "Nothing, nothing on Earth matters more than MY reproductive rights!! Not my health, not your health, not the frogs and fishes health. NOTHING!!!"

      Estrogen

      Estrogen

      Estrogen

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    4. Re: Wild guess by Zero__Kelvin · · Score: 2

      Once again you are ahead of "your time"

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    5. Re:Wild guess by manu0601 · · Score: 2

      Try the massive contamination of drinking water with estrogen from birth control pills as well as the estrogen mimickers such as soy products.

      You missed one major suspect: endocrine disruptors

    6. Re: Wild guess by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 4, Informative

      I don't know. I'm no where near overweight (around 15% BF) and my wife and I are having some trouble with conceiving, so I got my sperm levels checked and they are quite low. Oddly my T-levels are on the high side of normal. I'm fit and run 30-40 miles per week. No grey hair and no guy at all.

      145lbs and 37 years old.

      You're probably too skinny. Too low a body weight also lowers sperm production.

      A man's fertility may be affected by his weight, a new study shows. Men who are either too fat or too thin may find that they have lower sperm counts, often low enough to be classed as 'impaired fertility'. The study, undertaken by researchers in Denmark and published in the journal Fertility and Sterility, could lend weight to the possibility that high levels of obesity in Western societies may be contributing to fertility problems.

      The researchers studied 1558 Danish men, comparing their sperm count to their body mass index (BMI - a measure of weight in relation to height). They found that men with either a low or a high BMI had differences in reproductive hormone levels as well as lower sperm counts than men of the recommended weight. Men with a low BMI (below 20) were, on average, found to have a 28 per cent lower sperm count and a 36 per cent lower sperm concentration than men with a normal BMI. Men with a high BMI (above 25) had a 22 per cent lower sperm count and 24 per cent lower sperm concentrations.

      So if you're already borderline, all that running will make it worse. Same as too high a level of testosterone will.

      Also, what do you mean by "no guy at all?"

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    7. Re: Wild guess by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 2

      eating fscking gluten-free vegan yoghurt steak-substitute

      And where can we buy such a thing?

      Thanks in advance.

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    8. Re:Wild guess by hord · · Score: 2

      This was my thought. Our food supply is becoming more plastic all the time and I don't meant he packaging.

    9. Re:Wild guess by geek · · Score: 5, Funny

      I blame skinny jeans. I've been in boxers and loose pants for decades and have no issues. I see these young beta males running around in skin tight jeans and I just figure they never want kids or something.

    10. Re: Wild guess by aliquis · · Score: 2

      Isn't the effect of soy small or nonexistent or positive? I eat a lot of licorice which is negative for a fact. But what about all of them in plastics? and such? Isn't that the real trouble. We definitely know they are in our environment.

    11. Re:Wild guess by jblues · · Score: 2

      The increase in processed starchy foods and I would theorize perhaps too much reduction in saturated fats - which support male sex hormone production. In fact, while processed foods were eaten less, in favor of whole foods, including fattier meats, they were prepared with lard and tallow in place of hydrogenated vegetable oils. That fat is gone either way.

      Ancel Keys showed that saturated fat wasn't good for heart health, but we may have gone overboard and/or replaced it favor of crappy overly-processed starchy foods

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    12. Re:Wild guess by ArylAkamov · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It is likely the packaging too, look at plastics that leech BPA, which mimics estrogen.

    13. Re:Wild guess by sound+vision · · Score: 2

      I was thinking along the lines of BPA, triclosan, and other chemicals that are common in food/drug related products that mimic estrogen.
      I think the FDA recently banned triclosan from consumer products, but that might be too recent to have an impact on long-term studies yet.

      As far as smells in the grocery store, typically things aren't cooked in the store throughout the day, and when they are it's in a separate room with probably separate ventilation. "Rooms" and "ventilation" are things that don't exist in a third-world open-air BBQ pit.

    14. Re:Wild guess by LeftCoastThinker · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Not sure if that is the cause, but the issue you describe is related to the fact that most fruits and vegetables these days are grown far away, and to save money on refrigeration, the fruit is picked green and allowed to ripen in transit. The downside is that the chemical processes are not the same as ripening on the tree/vine/etc. and you wind up with highly acidic produce lacking in some nutrients.

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    15. Re:Wild guess by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      These feminists sound like the worst. I mean, at least the ones that definitely exist and definitely said things that are characterized accurately by what you put in quotes. The articles you linked don't have any feminists saying anything like that, but the post is modded 5 informative so I'm assuming it's good information, and not jumping to conclusions. About feminism.

    16. Re:Wild guess by serviscope_minor · · Score: 4, Insightful

      A combination of obesity in men (besides not being able to spell) and the most highly educated women, those in academia, hating men

      When did "women won't have sex with me" turn into "women hate all men".

      Most of the women in academia that I know personally are in relationships. Bit of an odd claim that they hate men.

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    17. Re: Wild guess by thegarbz · · Score: 4, Funny

      Also, what do you mean by "no guy at all?"

      Possibly you have identified the root cause of the lack of sperm count.

    18. Re:Wild guess by AmiMoJo · · Score: 2

      How is "the most highly educated women, those in academia, hating men" supposed to lower the male population's sperm count?

      That's one batshit crazy conspiracy theory.

      And it's not even true. The biggest misandrists are men, the ones who go around calling others "beta" and "cuck" all day.

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    19. Re:Wild guess by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Thanks.

      Moron.

      You didn't need to sign off on your post. We could already tell who you were from your response.

    20. Re:Wild guess by msauve · · Score: 2

      Watch films from the 20's. No one could talk.

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    21. Re: Wild guess by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 2

      Testicles need to stay several degrees below body temperature for proper sperm production, so wearers of tight pants are going to have serious fertility issues.

      Natural selection at work - hipsters will become extinct. YAY!

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    22. Re:Wild guess by DickBreath · · Score: 2

      It is not just Obesity.

      Smoking is a culprit as well. Smoking affects both the color and taste of semen. Uh, so I am told. So it might affect sperm count and motility as well.

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    23. Re:Wild guess by electroniceric · · Score: 3, Informative

      Good points, notwithstanding the snark about hipsters being feminine (I mean, where do you go with lumberjack beard AND skinny jeans?).

      Anyway, I think you're missing a huge culprit, possible the biggest one: PLASTIC.

      It's in absolutely everything. These even if you're drinking raw tiger blood, if you're on Slashdot odds I daresay you're not out in the tundra killing it with your stone-tipped spear. That means organic or "conventional", vegan or meagan, it's been shipped in plastic, or you're consuming it in a plastic container, with plastic utensils.

      Plastic is a known estrogen mimic:
      https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/p...

      I'd bet on plastic over soy any day.

      Though to be fair, soy is found in a fair wider variety of foodstuffs than anyone had imagine. Plus, when you get into questions of diet and the effect of different foods it gets really hard to figure out what the "natural" human diet is.

    24. Re:Wild guess by AmiMoJo · · Score: 3, Informative

      When did "women won't have sex with me" turn into "women hate all men".

      It's a coping mechanism. Rather than thinking that they are somehow inadequate or unlovable, they choose to believe that women simply hate men and are only trying to exploit them. That way not only isn't it a personal failing, it's actually a positive thing, unlike the poor cucks and betas getting used.

      It started with the Men Going Their Own Way (MGTOW) movement, and kind of developed into a philosophy until it was adopted by other groups like incels (guys suffering "involuntary celibacy", i.e. can't get a anyone to sleep with them) and simple misogynists too.

      I have some sympathy for those guys, a lot of them have clearly had bad experiences, and relationships are very important to people. But reading some of the stuff on Reddit is pretty scary.

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    25. Re:Wild guess by lsatenstein · · Score: 2

      No...Blame the food. Whenever I go to those so called 3rd world countries, their fruits taste better, have an aroma and someone can tell that a neighbor is preparing beef or poultry from the perceived smell.

      When one visits the fruit section of some of these so called healthy food stores, not an iota of smell/scent of fruit is perceived! Something is surely wrong here.

      So do we blame Monsanto for the GMFruit? In my youth, a Tomato was bright red, and juicy. Now the ones we buy (packaged on the vine), are pink, dry and bland.
      Pretty soon there will be seedless tomatoes. I want seeds that I can put into my own backyard and grow the old juicy red tomatoes of yesteryear.

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    26. Re:Wild guess by ath1901 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Citation needed! I can't believe this got +5 Insightful.

      Where is the evidence supporting your claim? Has the nutritional value of fruits decreased since the 70s? You could blame anything that has changed since 1973. Why not the lack of lead in gasoline or Internet porn?

      Before anyone blames it on any hormone like chemical found in plastics/fertilizers/pesticides/whatever, please show that our exposure has at least increased! For many nasty chemicals our exposure peaked in the 70-80s which increased awareness and regulations during later generations. Our exposure has decreased for many nasties, not increased. Lead being the obvious example but probably many other nasties like plastic softeners etc.

    27. Re:Wild guess by Cinnamon+Beige · · Score: 2

      There's other methods of birth control which not only do not screw with the environment but are a lot safer for women. If you tried getting your standard version of the Pill through the FDA now, about the only thing that'd actually get it approved would be feminists claiming that it's getting blocked because apparently it's misogyny to insist that a medicine that's intended at least mostly for women stand up to the same level of scrutiny as any other medicine.

      A surprising number of pharmaceuticals get dumped out of the body in urine pretty much intact. There's little to no effort to actually remove these from sewage during the treatment process. A lot of the indicators are that this is actually one of the nastier overall types of pollution--but, well, actually doing something about it would require personal sacrifice by the privileged classes, instead of symbolic acts, virtue-signalling, or pushing the sacrifices onto the less-privileged.

      Of course, if you want a very safe, very reliable, very environmentally-friendly form of birth control? Get a vasectomy.

  2. Count THIS! by mnemotronic · · Score: 5, Funny

    Ha! {wipes off mouse}

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  3. Extremely interesting... by Sqreater · · Score: 3, Funny

    Have they done a study to determine if there has been a balancing increase in sperm production by western women?

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    1. Re:Extremely interesting... by omnichad · · Score: 2

      Dr. Ian Malcolm: I'm simply saying that life, uh... finds a way.

  4. Re:Won't matter to some of us by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 5, Funny

    Heck, my wife gets pregnant if I look at her too long.

    I don't think so. You might want to get a paternity test done on "your" kids.

  5. Re:Men are turning into girly bitches by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 2

    "Millennials have this really disgusting complexion"

    Maybe, but you can't actually tell because of their tats.

  6. Ripper was right! by Rollgunner · · Score: 5, Funny

    The communist plot to dilute our precious bodily fluids has succeeded !

  7. It's Because Women are a Pain in the Ass by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    That is the only logical explanation for this. Women are fucking impossible to deal with anymore. They cannot be satisfied no matter how much money you make, how much you work out, how much stuff you have, or how popular you are. You're never good enough.

    It gets to the point that you don't even want to reproduce with them anymore, and so your body's like "whatever, Ima shut down this sperm factory down here and use my energy to get better at minecraft instead."

    Not long ago a friend of mine and I were having a beer and he asked me, "you know, my wife thinks you don't like her; you never talk to her and blow her off when she tries to talk to you." And my response was, "she's right." I actually loathe the idea of interacting with females in any capacity. It's actually pretty fucking great, because it's so much less stress in my life. I'm not constantly having to walk on eggshells and jump through hoops.

    1. Re:It's Because Women are a Pain in the Ass by Evtim · · Score: 2

      Don't fret! The women asking the impossible is the very thing that drives the sexual selection. If they don't whip us all the time men will stagnate......as a man I don't like it but there it is....it's a feature, but indeed it can be a bug as well if taken to extremes.

      Few years ago there was this fantastic documentary on the BBC about a guy with small dick. At a certain moment he invited 3 ladies to the studio. At first the ladies were sooooo dismissive and derisive about "dick fear" and were like "no size is not that important; it is other men that made you fell inadequate because men make porn and porn is unrealistic". So he asked them to model from clay the perfect dick for them. Guess what - all 3 models were significantly above average both in length and girt. Talking about who instills inferiority complexes in men , eh :)

      The thing is, women will never admit the fact that they are the dominant gender, always have been and always will be. Their strategy is to present themselves as prey and the men as predators. Only, once the predator catches the prey, the prey "surrenders" and becomes the master. Men rule the world; women rule the men. We are tools for their survival and procreation. Women have had twice as high reproduction success compare to men in history. Women live longer, are healthier and are overly protected by society. And that is how it should be.....the problem is when some of them refuse to recognize that and instead want the impossible - that society treats them as men in terms of rewards but as women in terms of risk-taking. Can't work ever.

      Regarding the news itself - well all the plausible culprits were listed by various /. -rs - plastics, obesity, food, tight clothing, over-population, social constructs (remember the millennials are having less sex as well), stress....

  8. Re: So what? by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 2

    You missed the important part, no doubt on purpose: it doesn't matter if it is 50 or 100 million.

    SRSLY? Just out of curiosity, are you a pediatrician or OB/GYN and if so - or even if not so, give me the cites to illustrate that which you are so certain of. The idea that a male producing half of the sperm of another especially 50 million per ejaculate is as fertile goes against everything I have been taught and experienced. Your expertise in this matter is requested.

    Thank you in advance for providing this information. Here is something that I know, and am awaiting for your debunking of the Mayo Clinic http://www.mayoclinic.org/dise...

    39 million sperm per ejaculate is considered as a low sperm count. the present day average of 50 million is getting close, and will perhaps reach that level in the future. Then again, I believe that you actually think that if a male produces even one sperm, the woman will beome pregnant. I'll respectfully ask for the debunking of the acrosome reaction in whic many sperm attach them selves to the zona pellucida and create enzymes that allow the one sperm that does the actual insemination to pierce the egg and finish the fertilization process.

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  9. Estrogen mimic plasticizers all over the environme by HiThere · · Score: 2

    Estrogen mimic plasticizers are all over the environment. They're in your clothes, your bottled water, your food, the chairs you sit in, ETC.

    They would be my first guess as to the reason for many abnormalities, and certainly for something involving sperm counts.

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  10. Re: Pthalates and bromides. by easyTree · · Score: 2

    In other words it makes little practical difference if it's inherited as it derives from circumstances which walk hand-in-hand with heredity.

  11. Re: Yes. by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 2

    More important question, are men with lower sperm counts more of less happy than men with higher sperm counts.

    Weogh! That was a hard to parse as a Sarah Palin speech, so I'll just hit on the basics.

    Your noting that a lot of men avoiding having children is part of another trend Men are becoming less interested in marriage, and oddly, women are becoming more interested than a few years back. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/... And given some other trends, the numbers might decrease yet more. Certainly given that college campuses are trending a 10 percent gape between female and male and growing, http://www.pewresearch.org/fac... there wil be a lot of educated women - who probably do not want to marry lesser educated men - who are going to have an issue with marriage and reproducing.

    There might be some relationship between lower testosterone levels and men dropping out of society and marriage and children - I don't know enough to make that presumption. Generally when you ask those men who choose to opt out, thier ansers tend to be that marriage and relationships are just not a good deal for men. They do make an argument that is fairly convincing and rational. But once we get into social matters it is hard to get definitive causes and effects.

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  12. Re: So what? by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 2

    Nice weasel attempt, but all you have to do to prove your claim is correct is cite the plummet in conception rates.

    Can you show me where I claimed the conception rates have plummeted?

    But let's talk about conception rates since you fixate on it. We'll ignore that it isn't used too often in humans, it seems to be of maximum interest in bovines.

    In humans the term pregnancy rate is used. It is also used a lot for IVF, which has a much lesser success rate than normal sex, so it's a bad term overall, and not a very good measure of sperm count and it's relationship to pregnancy. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

    Regardless to try to relate to your conception rate, any number we might come up with is difficult, especially in light of say, the USA's fertility rate hivering at just around replacement rate https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

    So are couples using birth control? Is age a factor? This is unclear, and there are political issues as well. Some articles about this, but not conclusive and hard to dig numbers out of, and I'm certain that they are hedging their bet. There is no doubt that most research on male infertility is mostly about women, as strange as that seems.

    But without your trying to wiggle out of this, if you have an issue with the Mayo clinic's definition of male infertility, and with the US fertility rate, and with the sperm count heading toward that definition, then argue with them.

    I've given an internet troll neough of my time.

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  13. Re:Well duh... by iggymanz · · Score: 2

    Actually Chuck Norris died 10 years ago, but the Grim Reaper shits vertebrae at the mere thought of coming to get him.

  14. Worry Not, Humanity, For I Shall Save You! by hyades1 · · Score: 3, Funny

    If the trend continues, there will be a day when Western Man is no longer able to produce sperm at all.

    But fear not, humanity! Thanks to frozen sperm, bulls that died years ago are still fathering calves. With my high IQ and 6' 2" manly-man size, I am willing to contribute now to save First World Man from extinction.

    Charlize Theron...honey...I'm afraid you'll just have to lean into the strike zone take one for the team. The future of the world will be in your hands. Literally.

    Inbox me, honey. Let's get this done!

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  15. Re:happened to me, unfortunately by RockDoctor · · Score: 2

    after I had 2 vasectomies. The first failed..

    Protocol here is to (1) cauterise both ends of the severed vasa, and (2) perform a sperm count 3 months after operation, before authorising the cessation of the contraception already in use.

    the second "succeeded" only to fail 3 years later.

    That strongly suggests that your practitioner wasn't using any sort of cauterisation, which does have a significant failure rate. If you informed the second practitioner of the failed first vasectomy (they'd have seen the scars anyway), then not performing the cauterisation step is pretty well down the road to malpractice. Normally, I'm not one for promoting "sue the doctor" at any event, but in this case it does strike me as being a pretty basic failure.

    In the UK, using the [cut, remove cm-length, cauterise] protocol, spontaneous reconnection rates are under 1%, which would suggest you're a 1-in-10,000 event. If your practitioners are using a proven protocol, and doing it properly.

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