Kaspersky Launches Its Free Antivirus Software Worldwide (engadget.com)

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Kaspersky Launches Its Free Antivirus Software Worldwide (engadget.com)

Posted by msmash on Wednesday July 26, 2017 @04:00AM from the change-of-heart dept.

Kaspersky has finally launched its free antivirus software after a year-and-a-half of testing it in select regions. From a report: While the software was only available in Russia, Ukraine, Belarus, China and in Nordic countries during its trial run, Kaspersky is releasing it worldwide. The free antivirus doesn't have VPN, Parental Controls and Online Payment Protection its paid counterpart offers, but it has all the essential features you need to protect your PC. It can scan files and emails, protect your PC while you use the web and quarantine malware that infects your system. The company says the software isn't riddled with advertisements like other free antivirus offerings. Instead of trying to make ad money off your patronage, Kaspersky will use the data you contribute to improve machine learning across its products. The free antivirus will be available in the US, Canada and most Asia-Pacific countries over the next couple of days, if it isn't yet. After this initial release, the company will roll it out in other regions from September to November.

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"Free" by Chaymus · 2017-07-26 04:03 · Score: 3, Insightful

Who better to write antivirus software than an entity accused of cyberespionage?
1. Re: "Free" by Zero__Kelvin · 2017-07-26 04:04 · Score: 2
  
  Sure, but it is FREE cyberespionage!
  
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2. Re:"Free" by Anonymous Coward · 2017-07-26 04:49 · Score: 0
  
  You're dumb. There are no accusations, only paranoid suspicions, made by a country that spreads more propaganda and lies than any other, and in any right is the master of such practices.
  If Kaspersky was malware and spyware, then independent researchers would've sounded the alarm years and years ago, but no such thing has ever happened. It has happened for loads of American security products and services however, so you may want to rethink your criticism.
3. Re: "Free" by Anonymous Coward · 2017-07-26 04:56 · Score: 0
  
  Go murder a reporter.
4. Re:"Free" by Anonymous Coward · 2017-07-26 04:59 · Score: 0
  
  Since the operating system is written by a company that colludes with the United States, who is actively engaged in cyberwarfare, it stands to reason that a foreign adversary would have the most interest in securing it.
  Either way, Windows users are pawns. If you don't trust anybody with your computing, may I suggest learning how to program and using only open source software? That's what I did.
5. Re:"Free" by Anonymous Coward · 2017-07-26 05:06 · Score: 0
  
  PS Using an open system does not make you less suceptible to being a pawn.
6. Re: "Free" by Oswald+McWeany · 2017-07-26 05:27 · Score: 1
  
  Sure, but it is FREE cyberespionage!
  It's free because you are the product. Or at least that's usually the applied logic of free software.
  If you are the product, what kind of product are you to a Russian security firm?
  I don't know I want to know the answer... although your FREE Cyber Espionage probably tells the story.
  
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  "That's the way to do it" - Punch
7. Re:"Free" by CodeArtisan · 2017-07-26 05:45 · Score: 1
  
  Since the operating system is written by a company that colludes with the United States, who is actively engaged in cyberwarfare, it stands to reason that a foreign adversary would have the most interest in securing it.
  Either way, Windows users are pawns. If you don't trust anybody with your computing, may I suggest learning how to program and using only open source software? That's what I did.
  I'll bet you haven't reviewed the source code of all the open source software you are using.
  
  Also, have you confirmed your hardware hasn't been compromised?
8. Re: "Free" by Anonymous Coward · 2017-07-26 05:49 · Score: 0
  
  And if you pay for another AV, you are still going to be a product. They will "monetize" you on top of what you are paying them.
  So why pay them again?
  
  I wouldn't use Kasperky as it is really heavy, my preference is NOD32 (the simple antivirus, not the total protection thingy)
9. Re: "Free" by TheDarkener · 2017-07-26 06:39 · Score: 1
  
  Maybe I haven't reviewed all the open source code that euns on my systems, but I think the point is that there's a better chance that *someone* / *more people* have, than with closed source software.
  
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10. Re:"Free" by JohnFen · 2017-07-26 06:43 · Score: 1
  
  That's why everyone should be running external firewalls that block all outgoing traffic unless you specifically allow it.
  You can't stop all the spyware, but you can stop it from phoning home.
11. Re: "Free" by Zero__Kelvin · 2017-07-26 08:01 · Score: 1
  
  My logic is WHOOOSH :^)
  
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12. Re: "Free" by Anonymous Coward · 2017-07-26 08:47 · Score: 0
  
  Yeah... and how did that work for you.. open SSL, NTP death, grub backdoor XBMC malware.... open source doesn't mean no evil.
13. Re:"Free" by Anonymous Coward · 2017-07-26 10:44 · Score: 0
  
  You hate Russians and you don't even know why, that's a sure sign of having been successfully brainwashed, and now you're picking stuff out of thin air.
  Kaspersky is someone who has dedicated his entire career to computer security, not to breaching it, he has no tainted image and he doesn't have to respond to anything. When Americans throw dirt and made-up accusations it doesn't automatically make someone guilty, rather it makes you look desperate and lying as always because you have literally _nothing_ to back up your lies and accusations.
  Again, if there was anything insecure about Kaspersky's products, it would've been discovered years ago.
14. Re:"Free" by Anonymous Coward · 2017-07-26 14:51 · Score: 0
  
  Trust is so easy to lose and so hard to regain; Now that Kaspersky's brand is tainted I don't trust it anymore, I did recomended it heavily before but now I don't, not even to people I dislike... to them only McAFee ;)
  But is good to know they're stating to the public about their data spionage program, I mean their private data mining (which is not different from what other companies already do).
15. Re: "Free" by KGIII · 2017-07-26 21:15 · Score: 1
  
  Pretty much all the software I use is free software. I don't feel like the product. I feel empowered to learn, create, and change. Sheesh... ;-)
  
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  "So long and thanks for all the fish."
16. Re:"Free" by JohnFen · 2017-07-27 03:56 · Score: 1
  
  That's why it needs to be an external firewall. The systems behind the firewall don't have privileged access, and they are no more (or less) capable of subverting it than systems outside the firewall.
17. Re: "Free" by Anonymous Coward · 2017-07-27 10:48 · Score: 0
  
  I use Kaspersky and it uses almost no resources unless it's doing a scan which is normal unless you set it to low priority.
  If it slows down your system then shut off useless features like email monitoring or any other stuff that's in addition to the pure AV stuff
18. Re: "Free" by Anonymous Coward · 2017-07-27 10:50 · Score: 0
  
  Yea all this nonsense about Kaspersky is just that, nonsense. Yea he's Russian but that doesn't mean the software is a Russian spy tool. More media spreading fud
If I use this... by ScentCone · 2017-07-26 04:03 · Score: 1, Troll

If I use this free product, does it mean I will have "ties to Russia?" I'm sure that if I actually pay for their more advanced product, I will then have "links to Kremlin-associated Russian bankers." I don't want to get in trouble with the New York Times.

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1. Re:If I use this... by Anonymous Coward · 2017-07-26 04:10 · Score: 0
  
  Mmmmmmhmm.
2. Re:If I use this... by fustakrakich · 2017-07-26 04:19 · Score: 1
  
  I will then have "links to Kremlin-associated Russian bankers."
  Hey man, can I borrow a dime? I gotta make a phone call
  
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  “He’s not deformed, he’s just drunk!”
3. Re:If I use this... by ScentCone · 2017-07-26 04:47 · Score: 0, Flamebait
  
  If I lend you a dime after I'm linked to Russia by interacting with Kaspersky, you TOO will have Russian ties. And you'll be all the more New York Times Flavor Guilty because you've cleverly used an intermediary to establish those back channel connections. Better lawyer up.
  
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4. Re:If I use this... by Anonymous Coward · 2017-07-26 05:01 · Score: 0
  
  False equivalences are a good strategy. Mock any news you don't agree with, it will make you feel safer.
5. Re:If I use this... by ScentCone · 2017-07-26 05:20 · Score: 0
  
  I like your strategy of avoiding the underlying point that "having ties to Russia" is only a bad thing if you're somehow, however indirectly, related to the Trump campaign, but it's just fine if, for example, you're Secretary of State and your department is granting huge energy sector favors to Putin and your husband is quickly putting hundreds of thousands of dollars into your family's personal bank account as "speaking fees" from Russian banks involved in the deal. Yes, definitely avoid the substance of the matter at all costs, because then you'd have to confront the media hypocrisy, which would take all the fun out of the current nonsense - which exists only to distract people from how and why the Democrats lost nearly a thousand legislative seats, most of the governorships, both houses of congress, the White House, the Supreme Court, and millions of two-time Obama voters who turned their backs on Democrats out of disgust. Yes! Please keep up the snark, right on through the next election cycle. It worked SO well in the last one, didn't it? Excellent work.
  
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6. Re:If I use this... by Oswald+McWeany · 2017-07-26 05:34 · Score: 1
  
  If I use this free product, does it mean I will have "ties to Russia?" I'm sure that if I actually pay for their more advanced product, I will then have "links to Kremlin-associated Russian bankers." I don't want to get in trouble with the New York Times.
  As long as you're not committing treason by conspiring with a foreign power to influence an election at home then you're not doing anything wrong. Or if you're not making foreign policy decisions whilst not the elected leader.
  
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  "That's the way to do it" - Punch
7. Re: If I use this... by Anonymous Coward · 2017-07-26 06:08 · Score: 1
  
  EVERY x president does speaking engagements for money. It is not unique to obama. Jesus Christ. This is how they get rich.
8. Re:If I use this... by Anonymous Coward · 2017-07-26 06:22 · Score: 0
  
  Sort of like this?
  http://dailysignal.com/2016/12/14/ted-kennedy-made-secret-overtures-to-russia-to-prevent-ronald-reagans-re-election/
9. Re:If I use this... by Anonymous Coward · 2017-07-26 06:38 · Score: 0
  
  Mmmmmmmmmhmmm. Keep concern trolling. Won't change the history books.
10. Re:If I use this... by Anonymous Coward · 2017-07-26 07:35 · Score: 0
  
  More pearl-clutching from the people who cry about snowflakes the hardest, what a surprise.
  There's more to the Russpublicans scandal than you're giving credit-- this is no Benghazi.
11. Re: If I use this... by Anonymous Coward · 2017-07-26 08:49 · Score: 0
  
  Russian troll
12. Re: If I use this... by ScentCone · 2017-07-26 11:10 · Score: 1
  
  I see. So what you're saying is that the appearance of a huge cash quid pro quo from the Russians directly into the Clintons' personal bank account while she's serving as Secretary of State and in charge of things like the granting of giant give-aways to the Russian government ... the appearance of that happening literally hours apart, it nothing to worry about. But the appearance of something utterly meaningless and without any follow up or cash payment if it's someone you disapprove of politically, well, that's HORRIBLE! CNN must spend every waking hour pretending they're not hypocrites and ranting about it and simply fabricating things because appearances are crimes. Unless you're the candidate they preferred, in which case no appearance or act is ever bad.
  
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13. Re:If I use this... by AHuxley · 2017-07-26 13:39 · Score: 1
  
  If you use the product you are helping discover the next Stuxnet, Flame, Duqu, Equation Group.
  That new information is then shared with security experts and OS makers around the world.
  To detect changes to normal OS by governments/mil what is normal and what is been altered has to be understood.
  A larger global pool of users helps track in real time what a normal OS looks like and what slight changes could be the first detection of new gov/mil malware activity.
  
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  Domestic spying is now "Benign Information Gathering"
14. Re:If I use this... by fustakrakich · 2017-07-26 16:24 · Score: 1
  
  you TOO will have Russian ties
  Well, as long as they don't clash with my Italian suit...
  
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  “He’s not deformed, he’s just drunk!”
15. Re: If I use this... by KGIII · 2017-07-26 21:24 · Score: 1
  
  Obama isn't married to Hillary Clinton.
  
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  "So long and thanks for all the fish."
How good is it compared to... by butzwonker · 2017-07-26 04:04 · Score: 4, Interesting

[ ] Bitdefender Free
[ ] AVAST Free
[ ] AVG Free
[ ] Sophos Home (free)
In other words, is there a reason for me to install Kaspersky instead of Sophos or Bitdefender, which I both used in the past? (If you reply, please do NOT mention anything about US politics or Russia - thank you!)
1. Re:How good is it compared to... by hyperar · 2017-07-26 04:11 · Score: 1
  
  [ ] Bitdefender Free
  [ ] AVAST Free
  [ ] AVG Free
  [ ] Sophos Home (free)
  In other words, is there a reason for me to install Kaspersky instead of Sophos or Bitdefender, which I both used in the past? (If you reply, please do NOT mention anything about US politics or Russia - thank you!)
  I'm currently using BitDefender Free, quite happy with it, lightweight, silent, no ads, no popups, works quite well, and i'm also interested how it compares to this new Kaspersky Free AV
2. Re:How good is it compared to... by PolygamousRanchKid+ · 2017-07-26 04:20 · Score: 1
  
  In other words, is there a reason for me to install Kaspersky instead of Sophos or Bitdefender, which I both used in the past?
  
  Right there in the summary:
  
  Instead of trying to make ad money off your patronage, Kaspersky will use the data you contribute to improve machine learning across its products.
  Whatever that means . . .
  Do they maybe me "computation time", that you contribute . . . ? Turning your AV software into a compute node . . . ? Or maybe "data about other users", that you may contribute . . . ? *Real Espionageware*!
  
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3. Re:How good is it compared to... by elrous0 · 2017-07-26 04:25 · Score: 1
  
  Does Avast have Vladamir Putin on a horse backing them up?
  Yeah, I didn't THINK so!
  
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  SJW: Someone who has run out of real oppression, and has to fake it.
4. Re:How good is it compared to... by Anonymous Coward · 2017-07-26 04:37 · Score: 1
  
  Kaspersky demanded money to whitelist our software (generic false positive--thought it was a trojan dropper). Booo.
5. Re:How good is it compared to... by Anonymous Coward · 2017-07-26 05:01 · Score: 0
  
  Bitdefender is the best. AVG was ok, but has gotten bloated same for Avast. Not sure about Sophos, never used that one.
  If you want to open a back door for Russia into your computer feel free to install Kaspersky though. Sorry couldn't resist. But think, I mean really think about it (which you haven't if you're considering this as an option). Don't you find this odd they release this for free after being accused of being in a pawn for the Russian government? For me, it means all the pieces have lined up, and yes in fact they are in collusion with their daddy Putin.
6. Re:How good is it compared to... by Major_Disorder · 2017-07-26 05:02 · Score: 2
  
  Does Avast have Vladamir Putin on a horse backing them up?
  Yeah, I didn't THINK so!
  I hear Donald Trump loves it, and is going to get it installed on all Whitehouse computers by the end of the week.
  
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7. Re:How good is it compared to... by phayes · 2017-07-26 05:05 · Score: 1
  
  Forticlient is also free and comes with web filtering
  
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  Democracy is a sheep and two wolves deciding what to have for lunch. Freedom is a well armed sheep contesting the issue
8. Re:How good is it compared to... by Anonymous Coward · 2017-07-26 05:13 · Score: 0
  
  If you reply, please do NOT mention anything about US politics or Russia - thank you!
  So you're going to be a moron and ignore the fact the Kaspersky stands a good chance of having exploits added at the request of the Russian government?
  The trust level for this software can't exactly be separated from whether they add spying capabilities for the Russian government.
9. Re:How good is it compared to... by hyperar · 2017-07-26 05:20 · Score: 4, Insightful
  
  I'm currently using BitDefender Free, quite happy with it, lightweight, silent, (...)
  So I gather you're a Windows prod...erm, user. Why the fuck a Windows user has to do with Slashdot?
  Oh, i understand your confusion, i'm just in Slashdot waiting for the "Year of Linux desktop" article to pop up.
10. Re:How good is it compared to... by chispito · 2017-07-26 05:25 · Score: 2
  
  My experience, based on encountering and uploading malware to VT and similar sites, is that Kaspersky is one of the first antivirus providers to get definitions for new malware. We used to have Symantec and they were hours behind. That said, I couldn't tell you what the real world difference is now because we switched to a different AV company from Symantec (not Kaspersky) and our edge protection got much better.
  
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11. Re:How good is it compared to... by grumpy-cowboy · 2017-07-26 05:44 · Score: 1
  
  [ ] Windows Defender (part of Windows)
  
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12. Re:How good is it compared to... by gnick · 2017-07-26 05:45 · Score: 1
  
  I'm currently using BitDefender Free, quite happy with it, lightweight, silent, no ads, no popups, works quite well...
  I'm using Windows Defender and have similar experience.
  
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  He's getting rather old, but he's a good mouse.
13. Re:How good is it compared to... by DigiShaman · 2017-07-26 05:52 · Score: 2
  
  Bitdefender = The best tied with Fortinet
  Fortinet = The best tied with Bitdefender (can download the Forticlient)
  AVAST = It's ok
  AVG = Turned junkware, absolute shit!
  Sophos = Meh, not sure how well it ranks with Trend Micro which otherwise is regarded as "ok".
  McAfree = I'm listing it because it total shit; as in the baseline for what shit could possibly be!!!
  
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14. Re:How good is it compared to... by Anonymous Coward · 2017-07-26 05:58 · Score: 0
  
  Kaspersky, has always been (for 20 years or so) one of the very best AV products available on the market.
  It's been a few years since I've paid too much attention to the field, but historically, it had some of the highest detection, lowest false positives, and a very good heuristics engine for catching new stuff. It's a very good and well respected product.
15. Re:How good is it compared to... by desdinova+216 · 2017-07-26 06:16 · Score: 1
  
  that's because Kapersky is probably getting them from inside the house.
16. Re:How good is it compared to... by butzwonker · 2017-07-26 07:32 · Score: 1
  
  Okay, that's interesting info and perhaps reason for me as a software developer to avoid their products. Thanks!
17. Re:How good is it compared to... by Anonymous Coward · 2017-07-26 07:37 · Score: 1
  
  I don't think trying to ignore political shills and idiots on /. makes me a moron. I'm also not a US citizen, so you can shove your politics and your stupid president up your ass!
18. Re:How good is it compared to... by Anonymous Coward · 2017-07-26 07:43 · Score: 0
  
  If you reply, please do NOT mention anything about US politics or Russia - thank you!
  How about specific individuals? Weren't clinton and podesta beta-testers for this?
19. Re: How good is it compared to... by Anonymous Coward · 2017-07-26 08:52 · Score: 0
  
  haha
20. Re:How good is it compared to... by Anonymous Coward · 2017-07-26 09:01 · Score: 0
  
  Boy that doesn't even make sense any longer...
21. Re:How good is it compared to... by hyperar · 2017-07-26 09:20 · Score: 1
  
  I'm currently using BitDefender Free, quite happy with it, lightweight, silent, no ads, no popups, works quite well...
  I'm using Windows Defender and have similar experience.
  I can't remember why i choose BD over WD, i know there's something
22. Re:How good is it compared to... by Anonymous Coward · 2017-07-26 10:15 · Score: 0
  
  If you think the US is the only country Russia is interested in spying on, you are incredibly naive.
23. Re:How good is it compared to... by Anonymous Coward · 2017-07-26 12:43 · Score: 0
  
  Because for quiet sometime time Microsoft was failing miserably with Windows Defender. It was coming in at the bottom of AV-Test's testing for many years, it has only be recently that it has picked itself up out of last place. The results have been similar with av-comparatives results with Microsoft being one of the bottom results only recently moving upwards towards the middle of the pack.
  In both companies tests BitDefender (which is what I use) and Kaspersky came out towards the top of the pack.
24. Re:How good is it compared to... by igny · 2017-07-26 15:15 · Score: 1
  
  All I can say with this free Kaspersky anti-virus you get what you pay for. I was rather happy with no anti-virus at all for years. Now when I installed Kaspersky antivirus and to my surprise it came with 3 viruses no less. I was not pleased, so I uninstalled this piece of cra%@#%#$%@!NO CARRIER
  
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25. Re:How good is it compared to... by hyperar · 2017-07-26 16:03 · Score: 1
  
  Because for quiet sometime time Microsoft was failing miserably with Windows Defender. It was coming in at the bottom of AV-Test's testing for many years, it has only be recently that it has picked itself up out of last place. The results have been similar with av-comparatives results with Microsoft being one of the bottom results only recently moving upwards towards the middle of the pack.
  In both companies tests BitDefender (which is what I use) and Kaspersky came out towards the top of the pack.
  No it wasn't that, i remember it failing over and over the AV test, but recently it got better, but still for some reason i decided to use BD.
26. Re:How good is it compared to... by Anonymous Coward · 2017-07-26 20:03 · Score: 0
  
  If you believe an antivirus program or your operating system could protect you against snooping from a state level actor, you're even more naive. Also, maybe not everyone stores nuclear launch codes on his Windows machine like you!
27. Re:How good is it compared to... by Anonymous Coward · 2017-07-27 00:56 · Score: 0
  
  there is a difference between protecting against snooping and voluntarily installing the software to allow it.
Competes against built-in by fred6666 · 2017-07-26 04:06 · Score: 3, Interesting

There is already an antivirus builtin to Windows. Honest question here, why should I install this one instead?
1. Re:Competes against built-in by arth1 · 2017-07-26 04:14 · Score: 5, Interesting
  
  There is already an antivirus builtin to Windows. Honest question here, why should I install this one instead?
  The question is whether you want to open your machine to NSA/CIA/FBI/CBP or to FSB/FSO/SVR/GRU. Who is more likely to break down your door in the middle of the night? Pick the other.
2. Re:Competes against built-in by Anonymous Coward · 2017-07-26 04:17 · Score: 0
  
  There is already an antivirus builtin to Windows. Honest question here, why should I install this one instead?
  If you honestly don't know why trusting Microsoft's builtin "security" is not enough to protect yourself in this day in age, you likely make naive security mistakes all the time and no form of antivirus is going to help you anyways.
3. Re:Competes against built-in by Anonymous Coward · 2017-07-26 04:23 · Score: 0
  
  Do some research before spouting your nonsense.
4. Re:Competes against built-in by Anonymous Coward · 2017-07-26 04:28 · Score: 0
  
  Because you want your free antivirus to be sponsored by the SVR not the NSA.
5. Re:Competes against built-in by TWX · 2017-07-26 04:28 · Score: 5, Insightful
  
  Antivirus built-in to Windows, brought to you by the people that make the highly-infectable Windows!
  In all seriousness, the biggest logical fault I have with using Microsoft's antivirus tool is that being both the source of the problem and the solution to the problem doesn't make a lot of sense. Without knowing Microsoft's priorities it's difficult to really say how independent their antivirus team is relative to their mainstream products teams, so for all we know they're subject to the same pressures to produce code regardless of quality that the main products teams face. Even if they are independent to an extent, we don't know how corporate culture impacts them such that their mentality might be similar.
  Using a third-party product as essentially an audit is probably the right approach, if that third-party product can be trusted. Unfortunately over the years we've seen both paid products and free products devolve to where they should lose our trust. You can't permanently rely on a solution and have to always be ready to change if your previous choice becomes unsuitable.
  With that in mind, Kaspersky may have some stuff going for it, but it has some stuff going against it too. Yevgeny Kaspersky seems to be at the top of the game when it comes to security, but since he continues to reside in his home country where there's a history of questionable actions and takeovers by the government that has also been suggested as a state-sponsor of cyberespionage, it's difficult to trust that there won't be government meddling in Kaspersky products or an outright takeover of the the company by the State should the State feel that it's in its best interests to do so. This isn't some random application, this is software that must establish deep integration into the OS to function and also must regularly communicate with company servers to retrieve new information and to update itself. We should be skeptical as to how much we trust any application that requires these kinds of privileges, and the source of the application is important.
  
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6. Re:Competes against built-in by itamihn · 2017-07-26 04:29 · Score: 1
  
  The question is whether you want to open your machine to NSA/CIA/FBI/CBP or to NSA/CIA/FBI/CBP/FSB/FSO/SVR/GRU.
7. Re:Competes against built-in by PolygamousRanchKid+ · 2017-07-26 04:36 · Score: 1
  
  The question is whether you want to open your machine to NSA/CIA/FBI/CBP or to FSB/FSO/SVR/GRU. Who is more likely to break down your door in the middle of the night?
  Stop! It's an entangled quantum mechanics trick question, like Schrödinger's Secret Squirrel! It's both the NSA/CIA/FBI/CBP *AND* the FSB/FSO/SVR/GRU at the same time!
  Einstein: "So, when you open the box, is the left-handed glove or the right-handed glove in the box . . . ?"
  
  Pick the other.
  Yes, it is, in fact the third option.
  
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  Schroedinger's Brexit: The UK is both in and out of the EU at the same time!
8. Re: Competes against built-in by Anonymous Coward · 2017-07-26 04:41 · Score: 0
  
  geez way to go paranoids! afaik there have been no known kav backdoors. even with closed source, sooner or later such things would come to light and that would ruin them.
9. Re:Competes against built-in by green1 · 2017-07-26 04:44 · Score: 1
  
  "pick either"
  You probably fail to realize that you've already picked both...
10. Re:Competes against built-in by Anonymous Coward · 2017-07-26 04:48 · Score: 0
  
  This one will warn you that Windows installed the nonnegotiable force Windows 10 upgrade package, while your version of Windows will pretend like nothing of the sort ever took place.
11. Re:Competes against built-in by fred6666 · 2017-07-26 04:55 · Score: 1
  
  No antivirus is enough to protect yourself.
  Should I trust Kaspersky more than Microsoft? In both cases it's about trust.
12. Re: Competes against built-in by Anonymous Coward · 2017-07-26 05:12 · Score: 0
  
  In Putin's Russia _everyone_ is expected to be "patriotic" with dire consequences for those who aren't -- like the Kaspersky Dev who is in prison for espionage. But for you, Kaspersky is supposed to be an exception...
  So, how much is Vladimir paying these days Pyotr?
13. Re:Competes against built-in by chispito · 2017-07-26 05:19 · Score: 2
  
  There is already an antivirus builtin to Windows. Honest question here, why should I install this one instead?
  In my experience, back when we had poor edge protection at work (2-3 years ago) and malware made it into the company, I would upload it to sites like VT, Malwr, and Anubis. Kaspersky was nearly always one of the first AV companies to detect it. We had Symantec and they were always hours behind.
  
  So, I'd say that the reason is because if you're going to traditional AV route, instead of no AV or a next gen AV, Kaspersky is probably one of the best bets.
  
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  The Daddy casts sleep on the Baby. The Baby resists!
14. Re:Competes against built-in by DigiShaman · 2017-07-26 05:55 · Score: 1
  
  Why would the break down the door when they've got a master key to enter at their leisure?
  
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  Life is not for the lazy.
15. Re:Competes against built-in by arth1 · 2017-07-26 07:10 · Score: 1
  
  Why would the break down the door when they've got a master key to enter at their leisure?
  Because they can.
16. Re: Competes against built-in by Anonymous Coward · 2017-07-26 07:13 · Score: 0
  
  If you use Windows at home for anything other than gaming, you're doing it wrong. If you want a secure OS, run OpenBSD or something similar.
17. Re:Competes against built-in by DigiShaman · 2017-07-26 08:50 · Score: 1
  
  True. Sometimes it's just for the sport of it.
  
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  Life is not for the lazy.
18. Re:Competes against built-in by Anonymous Coward · 2017-07-26 10:56 · Score: 0
  
  Because Windows Defender is crap, and when the NSA+CIA court order comes and says "do not detect and alert on this particular piece of software" then the handful of people at Microsoft in position to make that happen will have to obey. Do you really have to ask?
19. Re:Competes against built-in by AHuxley · 2017-07-26 13:33 · Score: 1
  
  To help find the next Stuxnet, Equation Group, Flame. Some really good work was done around the world and interesting malware discovered.
  Kaspersky Lab, Malware discovery https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
  
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  Domestic spying is now "Benign Information Gathering"
Its free because they can't legally sell it. by Anonymous Coward · 2017-07-26 04:07 · Score: 0

Didn't we just see a slashdot article about how they were being sanctioned or something?
Didn't their Source code make it to the web? by Zurkeyon3733 · 2017-07-26 04:11 · Score: 1

In 2009? I don't think a full rewrite has taken place since then. They are a security compromise waiting to happen...
1. Re:Didn't their Source code make it to the web? by Zurkeyon3733 · 2017-07-26 04:12 · Score: 1
  
  Sorry, 2011...
2. Re:Didn't their Source code make it to the web? by KiloByte · 2017-07-26 05:42 · Score: 2
  
  Well, I'm using an OS whose entire source has been leaked in 1991, and hasn't seen a full rewrite since. Now that one must be compromised to hell and back...
  
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  The creatures outside looked from Alt-Right to Antifa; but already it was impossible to say which was which.
your data will be sold to the KBG! by Joe_Dragon · 2017-07-26 04:12 · Score: 1

your data will be sold to the KBG!
1. Re:your data will be sold to the KBG! by Anonymous Coward · 2017-07-26 04:39 · Score: 1
  
  I don't mind my data being sold to the Kenya Business Guide, just as long as it doesn't wind up with the Russians.
2. Re:your data will be sold to the KBG! by PolygamousRanchKid+ · 2017-07-26 04:47 · Score: 1
  
  your data will be sold to the KBG!
  . . . along with the your data sold by Google, Facebook, Amazon, etc . . .
  Actually, a foreign intelligence service might want to think about setting up a dummy marketing corporation to buy information from Google, Facebook, Amazon, etc . . .
  "Comrade, you must have excellent spies in the USA! Where did you get this information . . . ?"
  "Google, Facebook, Amazon, etc . . ."
  
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  Schroedinger's Brexit: The UK is both in and out of the EU at the same time!
3. Re:your data will be sold to the KBG! by Anonymous Coward · 2017-07-26 04:50 · Score: 0
  
  what do you mean, "sold"? fsb (the 'new' kgb) just take what it wants. the free av isn't "riddled" with adverts, it's loaded down with secret spyware instead.
  all the 'free' av offerings from commercial interests have either or both embedded in them. what the users need, though, is one that actually respects a user's privacy, and doesn't have ads that try to trick users into paying (it can be hard to tell the difference between a 'legit' one and a scam), doesn't track users, doesn't require sending data or files "to the cloud", doesn't require registration or even so much as an email address. the first one that does all that, wins. (hint: none are even close at this point; and nobody has previously 'won').
4. Re:your data will be sold to the KBG! by Anonymous Coward · 2017-07-26 05:57 · Score: 0
  
  When you scan for malware, it's really just mining for BTC **troll face**
Free Backdoors for Everyone!! by Anonymous Coward · 2017-07-26 04:13 · Score: 0

NT
At least I can avoid it if I want to! by Anonymous Coward · 2017-07-26 04:15 · Score: 0, Offtopic

At least I can easily avoid using this software, if I don't want to use it.
The same can't be said about systemd. If I install Fedora, or Ubuntu, or Debian, or most other major Linux distros then I will have systemd forced upon me.
Yeah, I know, I could use an archaic distro like Slackware, or a pain-in-the-ass distro like Gentoo, or a niche hobby distro like Devuan. But if I'm forced to use one of them then I might as well just move to FreeBSD instead!
In terms of malware that affects or could potentially affect me, I consider systemd to be at the top of the list.
1. Re:At least I can avoid it if I want to! by Anonymous Coward · 2017-07-26 06:47 · Score: 0
  
  Tired of systemd rant about systemd rant #47381938475634738*9
2. Re:At least I can avoid it if I want to! by Lord+Kano · 2017-07-26 08:06 · Score: 2
  
  I prefer Kaspersky to systemd.
  If Kaspersky is screwing me over, it at least has the decency to do it without ruining stuff.
  LK
  
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  "Hi. This is my friend, Jack Shit, and you don't know him." - Lord Kano
3. Re:At least I can avoid it if I want to! by Anonymous Coward · 2017-07-27 07:33 · Score: 0
  
  Tired of systemd rant about systemd rant about systemd #1
I don't even trust the OS... by Anonymous Coward · 2017-07-26 04:22 · Score: 0

... let alone some sketchy for-profit, profits-from-ignorance snakeoil AV vendor...
Comes with bonus anti-moose-and-squirrel tech by elrous0 · 2017-07-26 04:23 · Score: 1

Is KGB approved. You trust!

--
SJW: Someone who has run out of real oppression, and has to fake it.
This post is Trump Approved! (tm) by Anonymous Coward · 2017-07-26 04:27 · Score: 0

Putin good, Media bad!
Ignore the fake news, comrade!
1. Re:This post is Trump Approved! (tm) by Anonymous Coward · 2017-07-26 04:38 · Score: 0
  
  Can you make that into a haiku instead?
2. Re:This post is Trump Approved! (tm) by Oswald+McWeany · 2017-07-26 05:37 · Score: 1
  
  Can you make that into a haiku instead?
  I'll give it a go. Wouldn't it make more sense for Japan though?
  Putin is all good.
  The media is evil,
  Fake news- bad, Comrade!
  
  --
  "That's the way to do it" - Punch
Reviews Are In! by Thelasko · 2017-07-26 04:36 · Score: 3, Funny

The reviews are already in for this new product from Kaspersky.

It's a trap!
-Admiral Ackbar

It's a trick! Get an axe.
-Ash Williams

--
One of our competitors trademarked the term "hypothesis". From now on, we will call them "boneheaded ideas".
Sophos - false postive KING! by Anonymous Coward · 2017-07-26 04:36 · Score: 0

I used to use Sophos on Mac. Every time they updated the software, I would get constant false positives - a nonexistent file in root - that would go away the next time they updated the software.
I uninstalled it because I was tired of constantly chasing ghosts.
Re: Essential features by Anonymous Coward · 2017-07-26 04:38 · Score: 0

Obviously following the path that Iceland did with F-Prot, since they have been directly controlling US elections for the past 20 years
Correction: by neo-mkrey · 2017-07-26 05:04 · Score: 1

After this intermediary release, the company will roll it out in still more regions from September to November.
If you aren't the [paying] customer ... by davidwr · 2017-07-26 05:26 · Score: 1

... you are the product.
"Kaspersky will use the data you contribute to improve machine learning across its products."
Well, at least they are being up-front about it.

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Knowledge is how to play a game, intelligence is how to win, wisdom is knowing what game to play.
Kaspersky = free root kit by Anonymous Coward · 2017-07-26 06:09 · Score: 0

Beware of Russians bearing gifts.
Re: /.ers testimonials 4 APK Hosts File Engine by Anonymous Coward · 2017-07-26 06:18 · Score: 0

I am requesting more citations. You said you would supply them. So supply them. Because every time you post that it's the same people and the same citations over and over. So where is the rest? Thanks.
Re: /.ers testimonials 4 APK Hosts File Engine by Anonymous Coward · 2017-07-26 06:21 · Score: 0

"Upon request I can supply many more of these of like assessment"
Oh please APK, we could always do with more of your garish advertising here.
Downloaded and tried to install... by Anonymous Coward · 2017-07-26 06:35 · Score: 0

Too bad it wanted to have access to windows imaging component.
Screen grabs and access my webcam perhaps? Looks fishy to me.
Error msg:
Microsoft Windows Imaging Component has not been found. Please install Microsoft Windows Imaging Component and restart the application installation.
NO I DON'T LIKE THIS, THANKS
captcha: demand
Ask & "ye shall receive" upon request by Anonymous Coward · 2017-07-26 06:37 · Score: 0

Your premise that hostfiles are a good way to deal with advertising and malvertising is quite valid by JazzLad

APK is totally right on this count. Adblock Plus on Firefox mobile is a dog on older, or lower end, phones. A hostfile based adblocker makes for a much better experience by chihowa

ABP is insufficient as a solid hosts file does everything that APK reminds us about by fast turtle

I support APK's stand on the hosts file by Trax3001BBS

APK, I know people give you a lot of shit regarding hosts, but please don't ever stop by nasredin

APK solution STILL relevant by Thud457

you're right about hosts files by drinkypoo

APK
P.S.=> They're in addition to https://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=10913741&cid=54883749/ many more earlier + 1,000's worldwide - there's no arguing w/ success - want STILL more? Again, ask... apk
What a deal! by JohnFen · 2017-07-26 06:40 · Score: 1

The company says the software isn't riddled with advertisements like other free antivirus offerings. Instead of trying to make ad money off your patronage, Kaspersky will use the data you contribute to improve machine learning across its products.
Instead of letting other companies spy on you through this software, they're just going to spy on you through this software themselves.
What a deal!
You asked for this... apk by Anonymous Coward · 2017-07-26 06:46 · Score: 0

See subject: I merely cater to your requests (to your public dismay UNIDENTIFIABLE "ne'er-do-well") https://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=10913741&cid=54884551/ - guess it's ok to advertise Kaspersky's closed source OR OpenSORES stuff though!
* I merely state facts - ones you asked for!
APK
P.S.=> Face facts: It's a FACT you WISH you were me, lol... apk
My security pro said "its one of the best" by Anonymous Coward · 2017-07-26 07:23 · Score: 0

Anecdotal only, but in a recent security assessment we had performed, Kaspersky picked up some activity/files that Sophos, AVG and Microsoft did not. Speaking with the tester, he confirmed that he's seen similar results before, and he personally rates the product as among the very best.
Probably safe by bestweasel · 2017-07-26 07:26 · Score: 1

Barclays Bank, one of the biggest in the UK, provides Kaspersky antivirus free to its online banking customers, so it's probably safe. Regardless of the facts, their sales will suffer anyway amongst people uneasy about their closeness to the Kremlin, an inevitable reaction to the Russian state's cyber-pranks.
Only the paranoid would think that a widely installed piece of free software which is automatically updated, just waiting for the day when the special update is sent, would provide a useful cyber weapon.
Claiming that closed source is more secure?! by Anonymous Coward · 2017-07-26 07:40 · Score: 0

It's really quite the opposite - a solid track record. The idea that closed source software is automagically more secure died sometime in the 90s.
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Best antivirus (& more) 100% free by Anonymous Coward · 2017-07-26 08:16 · Score: 0

See subject: It speeds you up vs. slowing you (as others do) & does more 4 less APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-7 32/64-bit https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=&bih=&q=%22APK+Hosts+File+Engine%22+and+%22start64%22&btnG=Google+Search&gbv=1/
Ads/script & malware rob speed/security/privacy
Hosts add speed (via hardcodes/adblocks), security (vs. bad sites/malware/poisoned dns), reliability (vs. dns down), & anonymity (vs. dns requestlog trackers).
Less power/cpu/ram + IO use vs. DNS/routers/addons/antivirus + less security bugs/complexity & faster vs. addons/routers/remote dns!
Avoids DNSChangers in routers/IP settings & dns redirects (99.999% of ISP DNS != patched vs. it) + lightens DNS load & resolves faster from local system RAM!
* Via what u NATIVELY have in the faster kernelmode IP stack!
APK
P.S. - Safe https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/e01211ca36aa02e923f20adee0a3c4f5d5187dc65bdf1c997b3da3c2b0745425/analysis/1433430542/
/.er testimonials #1/2 by Anonymous Coward · 2017-07-26 08:33 · Score: 0

Your premise that hostfiles are a good way to deal with advertising and malvertising is quite valid by JazzLad

APK is totally right on this count. Adblock Plus on Firefox mobile is a dog on older, or lower end, phones. A hostfile based adblocker makes for a much better experience by chihowa

ABP is insufficient as a solid hosts file does everything that APK reminds us about by fast turtle

I support APK's stand on the hosts file by Trax3001BBS

APK, I know people give you a lot of shit regarding hosts, but please don't ever stop by nasredin

APK solution STILL relevant by Thud457

you're right about hosts files by drinkypoo

No complaints from me, I like APK... Reminds me to use a host file. Also, his stuff is free by aaaaaaargh!

APK's monolithic hosts file is looking pretty good by Culture20

APK... Awesome to see he's still spreading the good word by Molochi

APK isn't wrong by cfalcon

APK
P.S.=> More coming... apk
Hey look, a distraction! by ilsaloving · 2017-07-26 08:33 · Score: 2

We've been implicated with working closely with Russian Intelligence. I know! FREE SOFTWARE FOR EVERYONE!
Russian spyware. by Anonymous Coward · 2017-07-26 08:43 · Score: 0

Oh yeah sure, let me just voluntarily install some free russian spyware on my computer! Absolutely. Sounds like a great idea. I'm sure fancy bear will really appreciate it.
/.er testimonials #2/2 by Anonymous Coward · 2017-07-26 08:52 · Score: 0

I'm going to continue using the Host File Engine. Your software is well written, functional. The Host File Engine performs exactly as promised by mmell

his hosts program is actually pretty good by xenotransplant

his hosts tool is actually useful for those cases in which one does indeed want to locally block stuff outright while consuming minimum system resources by alexgieg

(APK's) work, I've flat out said it's good by BronsCon

APK is kinda right. I've tried his hosts file generating software. It works by bmo

I like your host file system by Karmashock

I find your hosts file admirable by vel-ex-tech

APK your posts on this and the hosts file posts, and more, have never been in error and/or bad advice by BlueStrat

* It's recommended & hosted by Malwarebytes' hpHosts!
APK
P.S.=> Even China imitated a technique of mine http://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/04/26/boffins_supercharge_the_hosts_file_to_save_users_plagued_by_dns_outages/
the russians are coming, the russians are coming by Anonymous Coward · 2017-07-26 09:13 · Score: 0

one'th by sea
two'eth by internet
meh by Anonymous Coward · 2017-07-26 09:38 · Score: 1

That seems better firing all the transgender people... ;P
Welcome to the age of distraction
Any proof? by Anonymous Coward · 2017-07-26 10:36 · Score: 0

Aside from the "hints and allegations", has anyone actually looked at the Kaspersky AV **code** and determined there is some espionage risk?
Intrusive AV, stopped using it by thirty2bit · 2017-07-26 12:05 · Score: 1

I bought KAV 2016 3-license pack and used it on Win 7 desktops. After many odd issues, I did some digging and found it secretly injected Javascript into web pages. Ah, this is what interfered with some of the sites I hit. Its other features raised heck with a couple on-line games on the SO's computer. It prompted me to log in to the Kaspersky site all the time on one computer, complained about licensing on another for a few minutes after booting. All of the tiny issues added up, having me uninstalling the last license/instance after four months into the experience in favor of another product. I would like to find just an antivirus package that works unobtrusively, isn't cloud connected, doesn't try to nanny me, or try to be a jack-of-all trades (firewall, home security, credit monitor, privacy guard, password manager, IM monitor, toaster, ophthalmologist, druid, sock-presser -- oh, and plays Netflix and Youtube videos)
Antivirus? by Anonymous Coward · 2017-07-26 12:36 · Score: 0

Is this 2003? I haven't used antivirus in like 10 years.
Nice try, KGB... by LordHighExecutioner · 2017-07-26 20:14 · Score: 1

...now I wait for the free antivirus from North Korea to appear!
Funny eh? by Anonymous Coward · 2017-07-26 21:37 · Score: 0

Just like Microsoft ...
Or maybe data theft doesn't constitute "cyberespionage" for you?
In Soviet Russia by Anonymous Coward · 2017-07-27 18:21 · Score: 0

Virus scans you!
Ummmm, by MerlTurkin · 2017-07-28 13:46 · Score: 1

No thanks!