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AMD Launches Ryzen 3 Series Low Cost Processors Starting At $109 (hothardware.com)
Reader MojoKid writes: AMD is launching a new series of Ryzen processors today, the affordably priced Ryzen 3. Ryzen 3 will complement the previously launched Ryzen 7 and Ryzen 5 series of desktop processors, but will target entry-level price points. Ryzen 3 features the same die as its higher-end Ryzen 7 and 5 siblings, but has fewer active cores and symmetrical multi-threading (SMT) has been disabled. Ryzen 3 processors feature quad-core configurations, leverage the same socket and chip packaging and are also fully unlocked for easy overclocking. The Ryzen 3 1300X has a base clock of 3.5GHz, with a 3.6GHz all-core boost clock, a 3.7GHz two-core boost, and a max XFR boost clock of 3.9GHz. The Ryzen 3 1200's default clocks are decidedly lower. Its base and all-boost clocks are both only 3.1GHz, and its two-core boost tops out at 3.4GHz. XFR pushes its max single-core clock up to 3.45GHz. In the benchmarks, with multi-threaded workloads, the Ryzen 3's quad-core configuration generally gives it an edge over the dual-core / quad-thread Intel Core i3 and in some cases allows it to compete with more expensive Intel Core i5 chips. With single or lightly threaded workloads, however, Kaby Lake-based Core i3s are likely to pull ahead due to their increased IPC and typically higher clocks. Ryzen 3 1300X will retail for $129, while Ryzen 3 1200 will list for $109. Retail chips should be available today in the channel.
The price point is right for the high-end quad-core (four threads) Ryzen 3 at $129, as I usually don't spend more than $300 on a motherboard/processor/memory combo. However, the performance gain from the eight-core AM3 processor that I have isn't that great at 10%. It would probably be better to spend the extra $40 on the low-end quad-core (eight threads) Ryzen 5.
These chips really put the squeeze on Intel's low end, which it has somewhat neglected for some years now.
The 1200 looks to trade off too much performance for the $20 savings though, so I expect it to show up in every piece of crap low end computer in 6 months.
Actually, that's not true. It won't show up until the APU version comes out so the OEMs can pair up the shitty cpu with some shitty graphics a slow spinning hard drive and not enough RAM to make a computer that clueless people everywhere will buy and then complain about to me.
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Intel's normal desktop chips are basically all the same performance (within an order of magnitude), so the main difference is the presence of various features, like virtualization.
Are the Ryzen chips the same?
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Ryzen has risen AMD from the ashes of Intel's crucifixion of them in the 2000s. I wonder what Andre Rison thinks about this new Ryzen processor? It will probably cause a rise in sales, with confidence on the rise.
SMT is "simultaneous multi-threading", not "symmetrical multi-threading".
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I do believe that these parts are not as useful without a IGP for things like entry level (Grandma) desktops, or entry level corporate desktops.
But please do notice that these are BINNED PARTS, therefore, between the option of making no profits on them, Vs the option of making a profit on the processor, and sell a mobo (also at a slight profit) that can latter be upgraded to more capable Rizen Chip (also at a profit), and sell maybe a (hopefully AMD) graphics card, or a (hopefully AMD) laptop graphics chip to be mounted in the mobo, AMD opted for the profit option.
Just do not expect these to seel like hotcackes in corporate and entry level desktops.
Just my two cents, YMMV
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it's massively overkill for her. A Ryzen 3 is on par with a high end i3 or low end i5 (depending on the part). Grandma gets one of these. Ryzen 3 is for her grandson and his RX 460 (or 480 if he can talk Grandma into it).
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they added Hyper threading to the G series (though you might have to wait a bit to get a G4560 for a decent price, they're out there though). An i3-7350 can hang with last gen's i5s, which is something I didn't think I'd be writing again anytime soon. Intel isn't gimping their low end like they used to.
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You're kind of beating a dead horse here.
AMD added support for System Management Mode support in their 486 line, several years after Intel first implemented it.
By definition, anything running in SMM is invisible to the operating system unless it explicitly outputs to or interfaces with the OS. E.g., legacy device emulation.
Every modern computer could be running arbitrary code without user consent or OS-level visibility. If that shocks your sensibilities, you can go back to the pre-Pentium era.
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SMT is Simultaneous multithreading, not Symmetrical multithreading. Possible naming confusion can be from SMP (Symmetric multiprocessing).
Ryzen 3 features the same die as its higher-end Ryzen 7 and 5 siblings, but has fewer active cores
Is that a clever plot to sell Ryzen 7 chips that turned to have defective cores?
Intel has held back the whole computing industry with their dual core i3 and lower desktop chips, and all their (non QM) laptop chips. Game developers have explicitly stated many times that they do not target quad core systems because that locks them out of a large part of the market with lower-end hardware. Intel has made a killing for many years due to their very refined manufacturing process and chip designs yielding high clock speeds, allowing them to get away with only 2 cores while still delivering decent performance. If they instead sold quad cores at lower clock speeds, software would be written to take advantage of those cores, and modern software would run much smoother and would scale much better with more than two cores.
Hopefully with reasonably priced 4 core CPUs like the Ryzen 3 on the market, software developers will have the confidence to target 4 cores minimum, and we can finally (after so many years of sitting still and having our money glands milked by Intel) get some performance gains.
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