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Twitter Added Zero New Users Last Quarter Despite Trump Tweets (nypost.com)

Twitter did not add any new users in Q2, a disappointing follow-up to what had been a promising start to 2017. Twitter reported earnings Thursday morning, claiming 328 million total users -- the same number it reported after Q1. Analysts had been hoping the company would add around four million new users last quarter. From a report: Despite its appeal among celebrities and public figures, Twitter has struggled to sustain its closely watched user growth even as it invests in features and live content to help draw viewers and boost user engagement. It is in stiff competition for advertising dollars with other platforms like larger rival Facebook and Snap's messaging app Snapchat. The company also reported a wider quarterly net loss and lower revenue, and said it did not expect its total revenue growth to pick up in the second half of the year. [...] President Donald Trump, one of the most active politicians on Twitter, has tweeted multiple times a day on average since his inauguration in January, according to social media analytics company Zoomph.

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  1. And nothing of value was lost... by TBedsaul · · Score: 2

    Twitter is a perfect digital representation of what an empty head sounds like when it rattles.

    I'll take this opportunity to point out that this post would make a good tweet.

    1. Re:And nothing of value was lost... by sexconker · · Score: 2

      .@Twitter Perfect digital rep of empty head sounds like when it rattles. Ill take this op2nity 2 point out ths post would make a good tweet.

  2. Sounds like a symptom by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Sounds like people don't want to be on a platform with that idiot taking center stage.

  3. It's almost as if Twitter's brand is tainted. by cunina · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Tainted by the awful people who most frequently and publicly post to it, e.g. Kanye, the Kardashians, Trump, and Wesley Crusher.

  4. What's the *need* for Twitter? by Nutria · · Score: 4, Insightful

    None of my family or friends tweet anything that I care about, and celebrities, "journalists" and partisan zealots hold no interest for me...

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    1. Re:What's the *need* for Twitter? by jetkust · · Score: 3

      Twitter isn't about tweets from family or friends. It's a news feed/live event forum.

    2. Re:What's the *need* for Twitter? by penandpaper · · Score: 2

      There is something to be said about Twitter and news when old school news media run entire segments based on tweets. The more I think about it the more it sounds like the plot of a bad middle school dystopian story.

    3. Re:What's the *need* for Twitter? by penandpaper · · Score: 2

      Because the Senate represents the interests of the States not the people. They have longer terms and equal power regardless of the population they represent. When the constitution was drafted one of the concerns was "excessive democracy" as James Madison put it. The idea was that people were fickle and the Senate would be stable compared to the whims of popular passions dominating the House. Considering how people act today when they 'lose' it's easy to see that people let their passions get the better of them. There are always complaints that "the average voter" or "Joe six pack" is an idiot so it makes you wonder why you would give them more power in the federal government to decide on policy they have little understanding or experience with? The people already had the House and it was supposed to keep their needs in mind while the Senate was to be a bulwark and keep their States in mind (California has different needs than Montana and each their citizens have different needs and wants that may be different than the state they reside).

      However, that is all secondary to the idea that the federal government was supposed to have little impact on the daily lives of people and that it was ultimately the responsibility of the states and local governments to tend to the needs of their citizens. The people are close and better able to change the local and state government then the federal government..

  5. The Appaling Founding of Twitter... by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 2

    If you ever read "Hatching Twitter: A True Story of Money, Power, Friendship, and Betrayal" by Nick Bilton, you would know how appalling that the founding of Twitter was. Mark Zuckerburg has a great quote in the book: "[Twitter founders] drove a clown car into a gold mine and fell in." It's not really surprising that Twitter had zero growth from riding Trump's pants legs.

  6. Re:Is it time to start calling the death of Twitte by king+neckbeard · · Score: 2

    You now the rules. Not until Netcraft confirms it.

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  7. There's also the banning by Okian+Warrior · · Score: 3, Insightful

    There's also Gab.ai, which has sprung up in response to complaints about one-sided censorship by the company.

    Gab has a much more elegant solution to censorship: if you don't like something, put it on your personal list of "things I don't want to see", and you'll never see those. You can specify users or specific words you don't like.

    Compare with Twitter, where you can complain about something being in violation of their rules of conduct for partisan reasons... and most likely it'll get banned.

    Lots and lots of people are moving over to gab once they've been banned at twitter.

    Usually with a screenshot of their *completely reasonable* post that got them banned.

    (Even Scott Adams gets banned and shadow-banned - for nothing more than questioning the science behind global warming. It's almost as if the science behind global warming can't stand up to scrutiny!)

    (Several of the recent bannings are for supporting the military trans' ban decision. Almost as if no one is allowed to debate that issue!)

    1. Re:There's also the banning by serviscope_minor · · Score: 2

      Even Scott Adams gets banned and shadow-banned

      So he claimed, but it seems pretty doubtful. So some small, random selection of his posts didn't show up. It's not like Twitter is using ACID storage and he's a know nutbag.

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    2. Re:There's also the banning by AmiMoJo · · Score: 2

      The problem with Gab is that it's filtering doesn't deal with most important use cases.

      You can block users and keywords. How does that help you when a mob is coming at you, or a troll keeps making new accounts? How does it help when someone doxxes you?

      Some people like 4chan, but at least on there most posts are anonymous. On Gab your account gives the trolls a target.

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  8. Bots went home by 0100010001010011 · · Score: 2

    Election season is over. US, UK and France have all held their elections. Maybe there isn't anything for the bots to retweet and talk about any more.

  9. Re:Not ME by sexconker · · Score: 5, Insightful

    i am still considering leaving the nation.

    No you fucking aren't. Either shit or get off the pot.
    What, are you holding out for "change" (your preferred party winning) in the midterm elections? I mean, that's just a little over a year away!
    And if that doesn't pan out, well, it'll've been been 2 years. Surely the investigators are about to open the flood gates on info that will get the President impeached, and if not, you're about half way through their reign. Might as well stick it out and "make a difference" in the following Presidential election, right?

    Quit kidding yourself. You're not leaving. And the President, however much of a buffoon and ass they may be, has very little impact on your day to day life. It's congress that you need to flush down the drain, yet none of you give a shit about midterm elections. You just want to whine and bitch and moan and blame someone for something, as long as you're not blaming yourself or your preferred party.

    The above applies to all politards of all parties.

  10. Na na na na say'eh goodbye by DarkOx · · Score: 2

    Kinda want to see Twitter go down because as rule social media is kinda dumb. If Twitter falls it will shake investors faith in other platforms. Might be a nice domino effect. Really hopeful something like this could take the wind out of facebooks sails some before Mark succeeds in politically weaponizing. Which will be somewhat hard for him to do thanks to all the hard working cleaver trolls out there but its not impossible.

    If the investors could all get spooked and run off first, that would be great.

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  11. Attribution by arth1 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    From a report:

    [...]

    "A report" is not a good enough source. The quote is not attributed. Where was it copied/pasted from? I'm not talking about the link inside the quote, but the quote itself. Who wrote it?

  12. As a moderate, I got tired of smug leftists. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Politically, I'm a moderate or a centrist. I prefer to take the best ideas of the political right and the best ideas of the political left, rather than sticking myself at one extreme or the other. I'm open to immigration. I want all people to succeed, regardless of their skin color or origin or other attributes. I think healthcare should be affordable and accessible to all. I don't want to see prejudice and hatred.

    As a moderate, I used to follow a huge variety of Twitterers. Some were political, some were quite apolitical. I was seeing a huge range of viewpoints, which I really liked. All was good for several years, but then I found things were getting more and more polarized.

    It started off relatively mildly, with occasional tweets about Black Lives Matter or sexism or something like that. What started as a trickle soon became a deluge. It got to the point where tweet after tweet was about some kind of -ism or -phobia.

    Like I said earlier, I'm open minded, so I started looking into some of the cases that were mentioned in these tweets. Time and time again the incidents mentioned in the tweets relating to BLM ended up involving somebody who actually did violently attack the police, and the police responded with deadly force in self defense. The same would happen when I looked into the cases allegedly involving some sort of -ism or -phobia. The situation would either turn out to be totally overblown, or in some cases it was later revealed that the "incident" being described was nothing but a total fabrication!

    Interestingly, I didn't see this happening so much from the Twitterers I'd subscribed to who I'd place on the political right. Their tweets were much more relevant, and when I investigated them further it turned out that what they were saying actually matched reality. They weren't blowing minor incidents out of proportion, for example.

    Then the 2016 US election really started heating up. Things got really bad after President Trump won the election. Soon I was deluged with endless tweets droning on about "Drumpf", or cartoons making fun of him for allegedly having orange skin, or snide comments mocking his hairdo. I found it all kind of strange, since leftists are the ones who typically say that bullying and ridiculing people is wrong, especially if it involves their skin color or some other physical attribute they can't control.

    The tweets from people who I'd consider to be "right wing" ended up being far more reasonable most of the time. They'd be focusing on real issues, like the economy, border security, and international relations. They wouldn't just be slinging insults. They'd be trying to engage in real discussion, yet most of the replies to their tweets would be petty insults from leftists.

    It was getting to the point where for every useful tweet I saw, I'd have to put up with 30 or more pointless tweets filled with petty insults or complaints about non-issues from leftists. Recently it got to the point where I just couldn't put up with it any more. The signal to noise ratio became terrible.

    All I wanted was to read were reasonable and intelligent comments questioning the policies and actions of the new US administration. But all I was getting were tweets from leftists about "Drumpf" and "orange skin" and "bad hair" and "intolerance" and "racism" and "transphobia".

    So I've quit using Twitter. It stopped providing me with useful content, so I stopped using it. I regret having to do this, as the tweets I was getting from so-called "right wing" Twitterers were typically quite reasonable. It was all of the increasingly nonsensical, negative, and detached-from-reality tweets from leftists that ruined the Twitter experience for me.

    1. Re:As a moderate, I got tired of smug leftists. by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 3, Interesting

      And as far as the 'Drumpf' insult I really don't get it. So what if he is descendant from immigrants that changed their name.

      You don't get the hypocrisy? The descendant of immigrants with the immigrant wife who wants to ban immigrants? It has nothing to do with the name change, just his xenophobia ... his racism (just ask the blacks who twice won judgments against Trump businesses for violating andti-discrimination law when trying to rent housing) ... his transmisogyny (btw - the joint chiefs of staff were not consulted for his latest brain fart. The head has said that policy will remain the same for the time being because they have not been consulted or even notified, and all those joint chiefs are the same ones who approved the change of policy to allow transfolks to serve openly in the first place).

      The guy just can't keep his lies straight, because you have to have a modicum of intelligence to not get trapped in a web of your own lies. Intelligent people generally don't lie because they are smart enough to not get stuck in situations where they have to lie in the first place. That Trump lies every day - and gets caught every day - tells you all you need to know about how stupid he really is.

      It's pretty bad when the head of the Boy Scouts has to issue an apology for Trump's address to them. Some choice quotes

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    2. Re:As a moderate, I got tired of smug leftists. by chipschap · · Score: 2

      ... I prefer to take the best ideas of the political right and the best ideas of the political left ...

      Altogether too reasonable. I predict you will be viciously attacked.

      Seriously, reason seems to have dropped out of politics and political discussion. Notice how votes in Congress now are on pretty strict party lines? (A few Republicans bail sometimes, but virtually no Dems.)

      What happened to civil discourse? What happened to working together for the common good?

    3. Re:As a moderate, I got tired of smug leftists. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      The recent tweets from President Trump about transsexuals in the military are a great example. Let's take this one in particular. It very reasonably explains the rationale for his decision. Cost and disruption are important factors to consider with any decision. In terms of its presentation, it is well-written, legible, and presidential.

      Now look at the replies to that tweet. The ones I'm seeing include comments like:

      you are a fucking idiot.

      U r a disgrace.

      You're a fucking moron.

      you fat orange clown.

      you are a disgusting excuse for a human being

      What about men with small hands?

      You are a really shitty person

      You're such a fucking scumbag.

      You really are scum

      you're a hateful turd of a man.

      You are despicable.

      I didn't see one reply that presented a reasonable, considerate, intelligent rebuttal of what the President said.

      One reply after another was from outraged leftists using insults and attacks like those above. They aren't even particularly creative or insightful or witty insults. They're just the most basic bottom-of-the-barrel insults, devoid of any substance.

      It's even stranger when you consider that leftists are the ones who are always saying how bad it is to bully people. Yet here we have multiple examples of them acting in a very hypocritical and childish manner, launching one personal attack after another filled with extreme hatred and vitriol.

      Those replies are prefect examples of why normal, reasonable people are starting to want nothing to do with Twitter. Normal, reasonable, intelligent people don't want to be subjected to comments like those.

    4. Re:As a moderate, I got tired of smug leftists. by Arzaboa · · Score: 2

      I suppose it could be that idiots tweets draw idiot tweeted responses. When the president of the US is tweeting nasty, derogatory flamebait, he's going to get nasty, derogatory tweets right back at him.

      This is exactly why we expect a leader to lead with dignity. If he tweets crap, he's got a whole audience that is right at that level that otherwise wouldn't respond. He is getting exactly what he is asking for, he enjoys it apparently. The feeling across the world, right or wrong, is that by sending him anything more than 140 characters, he wouldn't understand or want to dig into it anyhow.

      I personally don't like any of it on either side and unfortunately feel like I'm sitting in the bleachers watching a shit show between folks I really don't get on every side of this. North, south, east and west, top and bottom of the barrel.

  13. Re:Is it time to start calling the death of Twitte by rudy_wayne · · Score: 2

    There is a way to make it profitable, just not doing what they're currently doing. Perhaps making corporations and verified people pay a small fee to stay verified? I don't know, but as much as it is a media darling, there is a value there, it just needs to be unlocked.

    On average, Twitter loses $100 million every quarter, which is completely insane. Part of the problem is having 3,000+ employees when they could easily run the business with less than 300. But still, there just simply is no "value to be unlocked".

    If there was a way for Twiiter to be profitable, they would have found it by now. This idea of "there's a magic answer out there somewhere, we just have to find it" is complete bullshit.

    Sure, it's popular among the brain-dead, but as an ongoing business, it's just a stupid, unworkable idea, and 10 years of massive losses that proven that.

  14. Market saturation by Sumus+Semper+Una · · Score: 2

    Assuming this data is accurate, Twitter's user base seems to have hit market saturation sometime around the start of 2015. The service has remained pretty much the same since they began it, so why would anyone expect that there are suddenly more people who aren't using Twitter that have decided that they want to use it? There was a significant uptick in the first quarter of this year (possibly attributable to Twitter being Trump's medium of choice), but anyone who thought that was sustainable growth was crazy.

  15. Re:I just don't get Twitter by citylivin · · Score: 2

    I briefly contemplated signing up just so i could berate companies publicly for poor customer service. Companies REALLY respond to twitter complaints, often sending free stuff to make up for slights or percieved slights. I know my company does. Like people bending over backwards to make an issue go away. If its on social media, the marketing department is on everyones ass to fix the problem with a level of urgency that phone-in customer complaints never get.

    From that point, i'd say it does serve as a useful tool. However I am pretty opposed to any sort of social networking so i never actually signed up.

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  16. Re:Of course by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 2

    Depends on how you define human. Do the brain-dead and zombies count>

    What we are seeing is the burn-out of people on social media, and the cure is to just walk away. Anything of relevance will appear elsewhere anyway.

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  17. Re:Of course by penandpaper · · Score: 2

    He thought that being president was like being king,

    You must be a mind reader. Do you have a crystal ball too?

  18. No thanks. by EnsilZah · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I wanted to open an account to follow some people whose work I'm interested in.
    An hour after creating the account, having done nothing with it, It's been locked and I've been told that it looks like I'm a bot registering multiple accounts and the only way to unlock it is to authenticate though my phone number.
    So I wrote to support that it seems like a pretty scammy way to get my phone number, and I'd be happy to talk to them, but I'm not interested in handing out that sort of information.
    Never heard back from them.

  19. Re:Of course by MightyMartian · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Well, apparently he makes major policy announcements now via twitter, and doesn't even bother to inform departments via normal channels. I'm not even sure why he has a communications staff, or heck, even a cabinet. This is government by one man and his phone.

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  20. Re:No surprise... by MightyMartian · · Score: 2

    It matters because the President seems to have little idea how to actually run a government, which seems odd, because at least so far as official executive instructions go, you can't tell me the way he ran Trump Enterprises was to send grammatically and spelling-challenged missives over the company email system informing departments of new policy.

    Maybe the real problem here is that Trump never in fact has run a damned fucking thing in his life, that he has had lawyers and accountants who translated his garbled directives into something human beings with normal cognitive function could interpret. Why exactly he has now decided to send out his directives via Twitter. The mere fact that nobody at the Pentagon seemed to have any idea, for instance, that he was instituting a transgender enlistment ban (whatever you may think of the policy) suggests to me that this is a man who knows virtually nothing about management and organizational communications.

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  21. Re:Of course by penandpaper · · Score: 2

    He has tried to pass rules without respect for the law

    I must have missed all those rules that he forced by ignoring the courts. Or were those the rules that the courts upheld that did indeed "respect" the law.

    , actively called for the removal of a member of the judiciary who ruled against him

    You mean the Mexican judge debacle? Understandable considering the point of a judge is impartiality and unbiased. Or do you mean the 9th circuit? Understandable considering they have been overstepping their judiciary role.

    is actively doing everything to force is attorney general to quit because the guy (Sessions) properly recused himself from the Russian investigation

    So what? Russian investigation is a nothingburger and he is the boss of the A.G. He has the right to fire him.

    interfered in the FBI investigation first by trying to get the director to go easy, then firing him (reminiscent of Nixon).

    You say interfered but that is a fine line that I am not sure was crossed. He can fire the director of the FBI for any reason and it was suggested by other members of the DoJ.

    president would be easy. Now he's found out that it's hard

    It's also his first political office he held. So what?

    He's also said that he could pardon himself. Only someone who has lost touch with reality and thinks his power is limitless would believe that the country would accept that

    This is the closest thing you have said to "act like a king" but nothing has come of it besides asking legal advice and some tweets. I am not sure if that really constitutes acting like a king.

    I think you have let your emotion get the better of you. Your hatred is palpable with every post or thread that mentions Trump. I think it's very hard to honest look and conversation about politics when someone lets emotion get the better of them.