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Appocalypse Now - How iOS11 Will Kill Some Of Your Favourite iPhone Apps (independent.ie)
Ronan Price, writing for Independent: The app-ocalypse is coming and almost no one knows it. Apologies for the dreadful pun but, in about six to eight weeks' time, hundreds of thousands of older apps for iPhone and iPad will cease to work when Apple updates its iOS software to version 11. Businesses and consumers who rely on these elderly apps and update to iOS11 without knowing the consequences face a rude awakening. Their difficulty ranges from mere inconvenience that a useful app no longer functions to the complete loss of valuable data buried in a piece of obsolete software. Apple began signalling two years ago that it was signing the death warrant for older apps when it moved iOS to 64-bit software - essentially a more secure, faster and technologically advanced version that replaced the previous 32-bit code. First, Apple encouraged developers to rewrite their apps to 64-bit status but continued to allow 32-bit apps to function. Then it began to warn developers and customers that future iOS updates would experience compatibility issues. You may have seen -- and ignored -- the messages when launching apps in the last year telling you "App X needs up to be updated, the developer needs to update it to improve its compatibility." Finally, just this June, Apple confirmed that iOS11 would put the kibosh on 32-bit forever when it's released into the wild in late September. The announcement came and went with little fanfare from the public's perspective.
is an oxymoron
sent from my windows phone
Modern app appers only app 64-app apps and appy app apps, NOT LUDDITE software!
Apps!
You don't have to rewrite shit.
You just have to update the SDK and compile. Done. It's not even fucking hard to do. These old apps are not supported or developed by anyone, that is to say they're unsupported by their developers. Get over it.
Shame on you Apple, you and your planned obsolescence.
iOS11 will certainly not "kill" any of my favorite applications.
People still use eye phones?
This sounds a lot like Firefox 57's WebExtensions transition, which will reportedly break compatibility with many older extensions. While Apple can probably get away with breaking compatibility, I don't know if Firefox will survive it.
DEATH TO APPS!
Don't and won't own an iPhone.
Moving on...
Let the circle jerk begin.
It is my understanding that Apple iOS11 is designed by and for homosexuals. That being the case, why would I want this on my phone? Doesn't Apple make anything normal anymore? My suggestion to normal people is to move on to something else. If you hang with Apple long enough they will try to convert you to their homosexual agenda.
Back in the '90s Real Audio supplied a free app to bring you FM radio stations on the internet, www, and it was free.
In the '10s many of the same internet, www, FM radio station are still there, for free, but Timmy Cook and Apple Ink want you to PAY them for that through subscription to Apple Music, iTunes will be killed in a few weeks.
The Rub is that Apple Ink and Timmy do not pay for FM Radio on the internet! Yet, they want $99/year, $199/year and $299/year depending on user socioeconomic and nationality (gender, transgender, race) status!
Is it fair that Timmy sells a subscription to a Transgender in Itally at $99/year when he sells the same subscription to a Caucasian Male in USA $299/year?
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Enough of this 64 bit only BS. There is a lot of perfectly good hardware that is going to be hitting landfills with all this. There is plenty of perfectly serviceable 32bit only hardware out there. If your use case does not need more than 3GB RAM then there is no absolute need for it. And with Intel releasing lackluster improvements over the last decade milking the hell out of stagnated designs with no real competition there has not been a whole lot of a need for many to upgrade old machines. Maybe now that AMD has finally kicked things up there will be a reason to, but that will be a wait and see at this time.
As far as security features, I call BS once again. Are you trying to say every bit of 32bit code written is a gaping security hole? No, it's just inept lazy programmers that cant take their training wheels off these days.
The iOS 11 betas have been so absurdly buggy - and yes, that's compared to other betas - that, unless there's some absolutely horrible security risk found which only iOS 11 patches, I'm going to be sitting on 10.x for as long as I possibly can.
I fully expect iOS 11 (release) to be really, really bad for quite a while.
#DeleteChrome
I never saw any of these warnings. It sucks that Apple make the late minute decision to just screw us and their users over like this.
Apple users love this kind of thing. The next iphone release they'll be camping outside the night before. Losing data and favorite apps is Apple doing you a favor to help you justify buying their next luxury product. That's just the small price to pay to be a member of the Church of Apple.
Take the cheese to sickbay, the doctor should see it as soon as possible - B'Elanna Torres, "Learning Curve"
A nice forced decluttering of my phone will be good. Get rid of all those apps that I never open but can't be bothered uninstalling.
Seriously, given the summary clearly Apple did everything they would reasonably be expected to do to 'warn' developers & consumers. I'm no Apple fan but what would anyone suggest they do otherwise? And there's an option I presume to not accept the upgrade & not run in to the issue. Potentially the complete lack of 'public fanfare' actually means 'no one cares' & this isn't going to actually affect anyone whether its their 'favorite' LoL Cat video app or whatever.
Sensationalizing this via using terms like 'kill' is well 'over kill' :-)
Developers that are failing to keep up and develop their apps are the ones killing them off.
There is no good excuse for this sort of obsolescence. Apple has the ability to both one time and dynamically recompile as well as emulate. They and any OS manufacturer can fix this problem. It is time for regulations that enforce a rule that OS companies stop creating obsolescence but must instead maintain legacy support.
"32-bit apps don't surf!"
-Lt. Colonel Bill Kilgore
I've got some older 32-bit apps. Not my problem, it's the developer's.
Fuck'em all.
I say, disable anything 65-bit.
And, with iOS 4.3, you only have about 50 known remotely exploitable vulnerabilities, so it's probably completely safe to use, as long as the WiFi is disabled.
...Making this another excellent example of why essential updates for security should be provided separately from updates that change (or break or remove) functionality.
This is not the first time Apple has played this game: iOS7 had a similar kind of effect on users and the app ecosystem about four years ago, for example. Dumping responsibility for "keeping up" on developers who wrote working apps and users who already paid for them is hardly reasonable. Nor is artificially limiting the life of expensive devices through software hacks.
I suspect the time is fast approaching when we will need laws to protect the buyers of "platform" software that is essential to the functioning of a device. Too many vendors are now abusing their control over the related software and/or copyright and related laws to force in changes that are not in their customers' interests after the sale.
In many contexts we mandate certain minimum standards for purchased products and require by law that the vendor makes good any defects for a reasonable period afterwards. Despite frequent and sometimes serious bugs in software, developers have mostly had an easy ride on that one in the past, partly because a culture evolved that you released security updates free of charge to customers later. If the developers in the age of always-online, "evergreen" software are no longer going to do that without attaching strings, perhaps they no longer deserve so much special treatment under the law when their products don't work properly either.
If you disagree, post your argument. (-1, Overrated) isn't your personal censorship tool for views you don't like.
...somebody will either update the app or somebody else will duplicate its functions in a new app.
No need to get suicidal.
Some apps are supported but have gotten worse, sometimes because the business model (or owner) changes, e.g., AppBox Pro 1.8.4, Facebook 6.9.1, Foursquare 7.0.7, GoodReader 3.21.7, iStanford 5.9.1, Pulse News 2.9.4.
EU citizens, get ready to ask refunds from Apple for ALL the paid apps and in app purchases related. According to the rules they cannot do this and refuse refunds.
No point in using ASLR when your flagship phone doesn't even come with half the RAM necessary to necessitate its use (2GB RAM on the iPhone 7.)
Still waiting on Serviscope_minor to wake up to fucking reality and realize that Jessica Price isn't going to fuck him.
32-bit apps SHOULD WORK! WTF.
A 64-bit processor is more than capable setting up an environment to run a 32-bit app.
They are intentionally crippling their POS to sell more POS.
Why can't I run all my favorite 16 bit MSDOS programs on Windows 10.
How dare Microsoft's planned obsolescence of my favorite games and programs prevent ME from still using the TSR Noron Utilities or playing my favorite CGA and EGA games? /S
It would be nice if iOS v11 can tell users which 32-bit apps will be unsupported and removed.
Ant(Dude) @ Quality Foraged Links (AQFL.net) & The Ant Farm (antfarm.ma.cx / antfarm.home.dhs.org).
VMs are irrelevant to the discussion. The fact of the matter is if upgrading Windows breaks your app, you can't do anything about it except wait for an update.
I disagree with you that "VMs are irrelevant to the discussion" because they are they means by which you can do something about it in the case of an application for (desktop) Windows. What do you think "XP Mode" in Windows 7 Professional was?
You can tell in iOS 10 - go to System Settings, General, About. Under Applications, it will say how many are installed. If any have not been updated to 64 bit, there will be a > reveal.
Tap that if it appears and it'll tell you which apps will be disabled under iOS 11.
Why when iOS 10 already does exactly just that?..
iOS has been warning you about this for years. iOS 10 literally tells you when you run a 32bit app that it will not work in the next version. This article is nonsense.