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'Pharma Bro' Martin Shkreli Found Guilty of 3 of 8 Charges, Including Securities Fraud (cnbc.com)

Former pharmaceutical chief executive Martin Shkreli has been found guilty of securities fraud. A New York City jury returned the verdict after five days of deliberations. From a report: Shkreli, 34, was convicted of some of the eight criminal counts that he had faced, which had included securities fraud and conspiracy to commit both securities fraud and wire fraud, after a more-than-month-long trial in Brooklyn, New York, federal court. Of the eight counts, Shkreli was found guilty of three. Those included conspiracy to commit securities fraud, and two counts of securities fraud. He was found not guilty of five counts, including those related to wire fraud. He faces up to 20 years in prison when he is sentenced.

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  1. Well by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    He better drop that Wu-Tang before goes to prison

  2. Hey Martin!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    Don't drop the soap BRO!!

    1. Re:Hey Martin!! by lbmouse · · Score: 1

      Why, does he have anallergy to penises?

    2. Re:Hey Martin!! by PolygamousRanchKid+ · · Score: 2

      Don't drop the soap BRO!!

      I seriously doubt if he will ever see the inside of a prison.

      He "faces" up to 20 years in prison sentences, but will find some legal folks to help him drag this on longer than the IBM-SCO-Linux lawsuit.

      He'll cut some deal, maybe by ratting out some other folks, and will end up with a suspended sentence.

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    3. Re:Hey Martin!! by Frosty+Piss · · Score: 1

      Why, does he have anallergy to penises?

      I think he just bought a company that makes chastity belts... The price just went through the roof.

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    4. Re:Hey Martin!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's not the same prison we all go, theirs are way better, with so much more class, that is why white collar crime is now prosecuted a little few times:

      http://www.businessinsider.com/wealthy-la-convicts-can-spend-extra-to-serve-their-time-in-fancy-jails-2017-3
      https://www.forbes.com/2009/07/13/best-prisons-cushiest-madoff-personal-finance-lockups.html
      https://www.forbes.com/2009/07/13/best-prisons-cushiest-madoff-personal-finance-lockups_slide.html

    5. Re:Hey Martin!! by Swave+An+deBwoner · · Score: 1
      Exactly. He plans to hamstring the government by raking up appeal costs.

      http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/pharma-bro-martin-shkreli-guilty-federal-fraud-case-article-1.3384646

      “I’m one of the richest New Yorkers there is, and after today’s outcome it’s going to stay that way,” the snarky Shkreli declared. “And, uh, it feels pretty good.”

      He later invited a Daily News reporter into his home for an exclusive sitdown where he put the odds of serving even a modest prison sentence at 50/50.

      “But hey, if the government wants to spend tens of millions of dollars and that’s all I get ...” he said.

  3. Bro, say it ain't so! by Spy+Handler · · Score: 3, Funny

    and...

    Bro, do u even lift (in prison)

    1. Re:Bro, say it ain't so! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe he can bunk with Trump Jr? That would be a great Netflix show!

    2. Re:Bro, say it ain't so! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      (Movie guy voice) They were two awesome bros, with more money than Midas when fate threw them a curve ball... Now they are Bunkees in a federal prison. Watch as they learn to Laugh and Love while serving time and being bitches.
      Bunkees soon to appear on YouTube.

  4. How sad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Couldn't have happened to a nicer guy.

    1. Re:How sad by jwhyche · · Score: 4, Informative

      Isn't Karma a bitch?

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      I thought karma was a whore...

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  5. Woot. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    People should not go to prison just because they're assholes. Luckily, he wasn't just an asshole - he did some illegal stuff as well!

    1. Re: Woot. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      That is my view.

      My opinion on his previous actions was "Eh, he is gonna get rich and maybe it will incentivize a competitor to produce an alternate treatment method, therefore creating an overall benefit, since more possible treatment options is good."

      Absolutely horrified my friends.

      But if he's doing security fraud? Eh, fuck him.

    2. Re:Woot. by sims+2 · · Score: 0

      I'm afraid this is one of those we don't have a law related to this guy doing things that are legal but morally wrong so we're going to pick through everything until we can find something to nail him with.

      Does anyone know if the investigation was started before or after he jacked prices from $13.50 to $750 and got tons of media and legal attention as a result?

      Yes he's an asshole but it doesn't make it any less of a dangerous road to be going down.

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    3. Re: Woot. by sims+2 · · Score: 1

      IIRC the deal wasn't that no one else made the drug it was that they had managed to secure exclusive rights to sell it in the united states.

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    4. Re: Woot. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That is my view.

      My opinion on his previous actions was "Eh, he is gonna get rich and maybe it will incentivize a competitor to produce an alternate treatment method, therefore creating an overall benefit, since more possible treatment options is good."

      Absolutely horrified my friends.

      But if he's doing security fraud? Eh, fuck him.

      Have a google at "broken windows fallacy economics".

    5. Re: Woot. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Patents are best friends to monopolies.

    6. Re:Woot. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      The investigation started in Jan 2015 before he started Turing Pharma which is where he hiked the price of Daraprim. However he did hike the price of a drug called Thiola in 2014 at his first pharma company.

    7. Re:Woot. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      People should not go to prison just because they're assholes.

      I'm fine with sending people to prison just because they're assholes, so long as we have a jury trial.
      If you can convince a prosecutor, a grand jury, and 12 strangers that Bob is an asshole, then maybe we should consider locking him up.

    8. Re:Woot. by Frosty+Piss · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I'm afraid this is one of those we don't have a law related to this guy doing things that are legal but morally wrong so we're going to pick through everything until we can find something to nail him with.

      So what? He committed the crimes he was convicted of, none of which are minor crimes. The prosecutors used the tools available to them to take a piece of shit who doesn't belong in a civilized society and put him in a place where he will perhaps learn some humility. Oh who am I kidding, I hope he bunks with an HIV+ weight lifter that likes cute "bros".

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    9. Re:Woot. by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 4, Insightful

      People should not go to prison just because they're assholes.

      But that would be a better world than one in which the prisons are filled with people who smoked some weed or took one of Grandpa's pain pills.

    10. Re: Woot. by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 2

      Patents are best friends to monopolies.

      No patent was involved here. Daraprim was a generic that anyone can make.

    11. Re: Woot. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Yeah, thanks, I have a degree in economics, and you're using that incorrectly.

      You will probably reply with a claim otherwise, but you'd just be wrong twice.

    12. Re:Woot. by thegreatbob · · Score: 1

      This is not the Bob you're looking for...

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    13. Re:Woot. by AdamStarks · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I hate Shkreli as much as the next internet person, but let's not wish rape on the guy. "Cruel and unusual punishment" is explicitly rejected by our justice system, the integrity of which is already shaky enough. For everyone like this guy that's "earned it", there's another in that same situation who was wrongfully convicted, and is now being doubly punished.

    14. Re:Woot. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      Fuck you and anyone who upvoted your piece of shit comment. "I know, let's rape the guy to teach him a lesson. That'll surely work, right? Let's make sure he turns into a hardened criminal or gets murdered because he did something I don't like!" That's not how a civilized society works. You are welcome to bring that brand of justice to the middle east or some other shit hole area of the world.

    15. Re:Woot. by Frosty+Piss · · Score: 2

      I hate Shkreli as much as the next internet person, but let's not wish rape on the guy.

      Why not? His actions with respect to how he has marketed the pharmaceuticals he controls have caused much pain and suffering for many many people. His punishment must punative.

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    16. Re:Woot. by sims+2 · · Score: 0

      The concern is that they can do this to anyone for any reason.
      Suing the state over non functioning stoplights? That's going to piss a bunch of people off who will then start looking through what records they have until they find something anything that they can make stick.

      "If you give me six lines written by the hand of the most honest of men, I will find something in them which will hang him." -Cardinal Richelieu

      That's the deal you can find something wrong with anyone if you look hard enough stuff they probably don't even know they are doing wrong.

      "The trouble with fighting for human freedom is that one spends most of one's time defending scoundrels. For it is against scoundrels that oppressive laws are first aimed, and oppression must be stopped at the beginning if it is to be stopped at all." -H. L. Mencken

      And I ain't defending him I think he's a greedy asshole but I still think it's dangerous to find a crime to fit the person instead of finding crime to find the person.

      It's the difference between hey look at that jerk he's got a backpack lets search his backpack hey he's got spray cans but that's not illegal 10 years for jaywalking and
      Hey look at that jerk he's spray painting over that no punching babies sign 5 years for vandalism.

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    17. Re:Woot. by sims+2 · · Score: 1

      Good that makes this all much less questionable.

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    18. Re: Woot. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is not the Bob we're looking for. Move along.

    19. Re:Woot. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Are you really so dense as to be unable to differentiate the difference between sentencing by a judge as prescribed by law, and a "sentence" decided by some random shithead violent psychopath?

    20. Re:Woot. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Listen if you do for me what he did for his investors....yeah he may have misrepresented some of the performance early on...but he made them 3-5x their money...nobody lost any money and for this the SEC is seeking to punish him. Yet we have lots on wallstreet everyday screwing over people for real losses and they get a pass. You ma not like the guy...but if the worst hes done is make people really good returns. WTF. Also note that the government lost on 5 counts out of 8....he will appeal and chances are he will reduce the 3 convictions by some amount. Worst of all just the wallstreet bankers and stockpushers. the problem this man brought to bright light (pharma companies raping the public) continue undetered. And you wonder why so many are truly learning to hate the government. It is not for the people or by the people.

    21. Re:Woot. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Who decides who the assholes are? If you even try to answer that question, you put our society on a death march towards oblivion where people will go to prison for how they vote and what they believe. Please. Stop.

    22. Re:Woot. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe someday, YOU will end up in prison and get sexually assaulted. I'm still not sure how male on male sexual assault is funny or cute.

      Did you know that there are a fair number of straight men who've been raped by other men outside of prison? Men get drugged and raped too, not as common, but it does happen.

    23. Re:Woot. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'd say that "cruel and unusual" is a relative term.

    24. Re:Woot. by thegarbz · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Yes he's an asshole but it doesn't make it any less of a dangerous road to be going down.

      How is convicting someone of a crime he committed a dangerous road?
      How does the date someone started investigating him for securities fraud make a difference?

      On the flip side, if someone just makes a silly amount of money after jacking up the prices of one of their product, what makes you think they won't get looked at to see if there isn't securities fraud going on?

      This seems like perfectly reasonable effect of a functioning society at work.

    25. Re:Woot. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      stfu dude. hallmark of dictatorships... he committed crimes, he was found guilty, and will be sentenced within the bounds of the law. dictatorships leave out several of those steps.

    26. Re:Woot. by JohnFen · · Score: 2

      I don't wish rape or other abuse on anyone, even a scumbag like this.

      But considering the (metaphorical, but not less harmful) raping that he engaged in, the phrase "live by the sword, die by the sword" did pop into my mind.

    27. Re:Woot. by JohnFen · · Score: 5, Informative

      Because the goal of the justice system is supposed to be justice, not vengeance.

    28. Re:Woot. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      In Murica, it's actually all about VENGEANCE. Here, that IS justice.

    29. Re:Woot. by darthsilun · · Score: 2

      For everyone like this guy that's "earned it", there's another in that same situation who was wrongfully convicted, and is now being doubly punished.

      I'd like to think that the number of wrongfully convicted people in prison is very small.

      If half our prison population were wrongfully convicted, then there's something seriously wrong.

      And before you reply that it's true, I hope you've got a citation for it to go along with it. And not a citation from Breitbart.

    30. Re:Woot. by sims+2 · · Score: 0

      Only if it was only done because they think he is an asshole.
      That guy is an asshole is not just cause to go through all their activities for the last 20 years. Reports of actual fraud would be.

      Jacking up the prices of a vital drug for no reason other than $$$$s is likely to have made a lot of enemies. So I was curious if this was just done to get back at him over that.

      I'm not really sure how hiking drug prices and securities fraud are related but that's probably because I don't know anything about securities fraud.

      I think he deserved it but that's beside the point.

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    31. Re:Woot. by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      So I was curious if this was just done to get back at him over that.

      Not at all. Whenever someone within a company makes a lot of money off a sudden change in price there's investigations. Whether he's a dick or not (he is), or whether this was live saving medication or not is quite irrelevant.

      Hell when the original story broke there were a lot of people pointing out that his purchase and sudden price change would draw scrutiny from the regulators. That's what they do.

    32. Re:Woot. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What do you think Justice means? It's societal vengeance. Vengeance is not a bad word.

    33. Re:Woot. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I just don't see how this guy could be considered "cute" on any level, he looks like a bilge rat

    34. Re:Woot. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Listen if you do for me what he did for his investors....yeah he may have misrepresented some of the performance early on...but he made them 3-5x their money...nobody lost any money and for this the SEC is seeking to punish him

      Yes in the beginning ponzi schemes can look great for those on top, They caught him while he was still setting up the scam and prevented him from going through it. He intended for people to lose money, he had been baiting them by covering peoples losses with his own money to make it appear solvent, the plan was for them to put in enough money for it to be worthwhile to take their money and run and now he will be facing 20 years in prison for that crime.

      the problem this man brought to bright light (pharma companies raping the public) continue undetered

      So if he had actually raped a woman and publicized it would you say he was bringing a bright light to men raping women that continues undetered and commend him for it? He's a shitbird who does shitbird stuff, he deserves to be treated like a shitbird

    35. Re:Woot. by AdamStarks · · Score: 2

      What's that old quote about "I'd rather a hundred guilty men go free than 1 innocent man be imprisoned"?

      Hoping that Shkreli gets raped really means hoping that he ends up in a penitentiary where violent and aggressive inmates aren't dealt with and guards let their personal feelings get in the way of their professional duties. And if such a penitentiary exists, who's to say that some of those 1 in a 100 innocents don't go there? I'm not saying that's the actual number or anything, and duh those places exist, but I'd rather spend my hope on the idea that they don't.

      If he really, truly deserves rape, then call your local congress-critter and propose a bill legalizing it as a form of punishment for the most serious of the charges Shkreli was charged with. If you're not comfortable with that same punishment being meted out against other people found guilty of the same crime (regardless of any other circumstances, including the blue-moon chance of actual innocence), then fuck off.

    36. Re:Woot. by AdamStarks · · Score: 1

      Hammurabi called, he wants his justice system back :P

    37. Re:Woot. by Zontar+The+Mindless · · Score: 1

      More Americans should read the Bible:

      If it be possible, as much as lieth in you, live peaceably with all men.

      Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord.

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    38. Re: Woot. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's the method of administering that is patented dude

    39. Re:Woot. by Carewolf · · Score: 1

      Because the goal of the justice system is supposed to be justice, not vengeance.

      Yeah, but it could be argued that the US justice system is more of vengeance system.

    40. Re:Woot. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There is no difference between the two.

    41. Re:Woot. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The withholding of medicine is not a cause of pain and suffering. The illness is the cause of pain and suffering.

    42. Re: Woot. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Which we should understand in the context of it really just being Paul trying to get Rome to stop murdering political revolutionaries in the Levant.

      I get what you're saying about the hypocrisy of Christian ideals only applied when convenient, however.

    43. Re: Woot. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes he's an asshole. Read the book 3 Felonies a Day before you wish him to be raped and tortured in prison.

    44. Re:Woot. by murdocj · · Score: 1

      I disagree. Being an asshole should be enough to get you jailed. Life would be better for the rest of us.

    45. Re: Woot. by murdocj · · Score: 1

      that's dumb. There already was a treatment that was easily affordable. Developing a new treatment could take a decade or more. How many people die in the meantime?

    46. Re:Woot. by Agripa · · Score: 1

      Because the goal of the justice system is supposed to be justice, not vengeance.

      Then you have already fallen for it. We have courts of "law" and not courts of "justice". The Department of Justice and Justice System are misnamed.

  6. Re:Betteridge's Law of Headlines by Kierthos · · Score: 2, Funny

    I think you're on the wrong article, Betteridge-bro.

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  7. Re:Betteridge's Law of Headlines by wardrich86 · · Score: 0

    Any headline that ends with a question mark by the word no.

    I don't see any question mark in the summary headline or TFA.

  8. Al Capone'd by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Back in my day, fraud was only committed if the clients LOST money.

    1. Re: Al Capone'd by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If I take your bike and leave $100 in it's place that's cool?

  9. Should have been all 8 charges by rahvin112 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The guy ran a ponzi scheme, at points when he was claiming $100million in fund assets when he only had $1000 in the funds account. In the end he stole money from his new company's investors to pay off the fund investors he'd cheated so they wouldn't go to the cops.

    I bet the jury didn't convict him on the charges because his investors were made whole by the second theft. But when you commit a crime like he did it doesn't matter if you eventually make them whole, you commit the crime when you lie and commit fraud. I don't know if the court didn't explain this well enough to the jury or what, but the man defrauded hundreds of people, then stole money from Retrophin to pay back the investors from his failed hedge fund. He's no better than Madoff and he should go to jail for YEARS and be bared from any type of job in involving managing money including a cashier at the local grocery store.

    He's a dumpster fire of a human being and he broke the law and should do the time. I hope he spends a whole lot of time in a 8x10 cell all by himself.

    1. Re:Should have been all 8 charges by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My understanding is the opposite of what you suggest: it's the second theft where he was found not guilty (looting Retrophin), whereas the initial fraud (the Ponzi scheme) is what he's going to prison for.

    2. Re:Should have been all 8 charges by hyades1 · · Score: 0

      I completely disagree. He should not spend a whole lot of time in an 8 x 10 cell by himself.

      Shkreli should spend a whole lot of time in an 8 x 10 cell with a 300-pound oversexed lifer who's hung like a donkey.

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    3. Re:Should have been all 8 charges by liquid_schwartz · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I completely disagree. He should not spend a whole lot of time in an 8 x 10 cell by himself.

      Shkreli should spend a whole lot of time in an 8 x 10 cell with a 300-pound oversexed lifer who's hung like a donkey.

      While Shkreli no doubt deserves a ton of punishment relying on prison inmates to mete out justice really speaks to the inadequacy of our "justice" system. Criminals are far more likely to prey on the weak than on the deserving. Since about half of all rapes occur while in the government's possession the best way to combat rape is to reduce this. There is literally no better place to start in terms of numbers.

      citations:

      http://www.dailymail.co.uk/new...

    4. Re:Should have been all 8 charges by parkinglot777 · · Score: 1

      Don't know which counts (3 out of 8) he is convicted... Anyone can take a look at the SEC filing if interested...

    5. Re:Should have been all 8 charges by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      "I know, let's rape the guy to teach him a lesson. That'll surely work, right? Let's make sure he turns into a hardened criminal or gets murdered because he did something I don't like!" That's not how a civilized society works. You are welcome to bring that brand of justice to the middle east or some other shit hole area of the world.

    6. Re:Should have been all 8 charges by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Agree, 100%. In the process, he endangered the lives of all the people who depended on that drug.

    7. Re:Should have been all 8 charges by hyades1 · · Score: 0

      Think of it as an act of corrective love. Like your priest told you.

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    8. Re:Should have been all 8 charges by avandesande · · Score: 1

      That's bullshit. I hate the guy as much as anyone but with ponzi scheme people lose money. Yes he lied and broke many disclosure laws but he wasn't actually stealing money. My guess is he gets off light with just parole or something.

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    9. Re:Should have been all 8 charges by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I hate the guy as much as anyone but with ponzi scheme people lose money.

      Retrophin lost money, it just was low enough (he was still early in the scam) that the jury couldn't convict of it.

    10. Re:Should have been all 8 charges by hyades1 · · Score: 1

      Now your fantasy is getting detailed. I bet you know all about what they do in the Middle East. I bet you draw pictures and write stories...and flog it like a borrowed mule while you do it.

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    11. Re:Should have been all 8 charges by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      False, ponzi simply means you are making payment promises based on future converts. It doesn't mean anyone loses money dipshit.

    12. Re:Should have been all 8 charges by rtb61 · · Score: 2

      Always, always, rehabilitation first and punishment last. Even animal trainers know this, let alone people we are relying to retrain people into being good citizens. Only one real hard bite when it comes to rehabilitation first, no rehabilitation, no release. So you need better standard cells, more compassionate containment for those who can not be rehabilitated and thus should not be released, rather than a set punishment term.

      Logically prison should be altered to be prisons within a prison. So prison more like a class room, with say 25 offenders per and those are the only offenders they deal with for the duration of their stay. Isolated training classes of a maximum 25 residents per group, with zero interaction with other residents, prisons of 25 which are much easier to control and where real rehabilitation can take place. No more prison wide riots, just a maximum of 25 residents to deal with at any one time, which can easily brought under control by correctional services officers (people with minimum 2 year university degrees, trained to train). The entire prison would house thousands but each group would be restricted to contact only within that group and be isolated from all other groups housed in that facility. Basically school for dangerous adults, each classroom isolated and tightly controlled, there is a real duty of care to ensure residents are protected from negative interactions with other residents.

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    13. Re:Should have been all 8 charges by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What he did is what everyone with a Ponzi scheme is trying to do: take people's money under fraudulent circumstances and then somehow find a way to repay them to cover over the fraud.

      It is illegal because of the fraud, not because people don't get their money.

      It's not OK just because he managed to pull it off.

    14. Re:Should have been all 8 charges by avandesande · · Score: 1

      A ponzi schem by definition CANNOT make money. Do a little research, DIPSHIT.

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    15. Re:Should have been all 8 charges by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Now you're projecting.

    16. Re:Should have been all 8 charges by rahvin112 · · Score: 1

      The ponzi scheme he ran never DID make money. He robbed Retophin to make the victims of his Ponzi scheme whole. It's this very confusion that likely cause the Jury to not convict him. His Ponzi scheme hedge fund went out of business with several thousand dollars in the bank while he was giving people statements that added up to $80 million in assets. To get people to not go to the cops he robbed his current business to pay them off.

      In the end the victims of his ponzi scheme were made whole but at the expense of the Retrophin investors who he robbed. This was a classic ponzi scheme.

  10. Re:Oz by Quakeulf · · Score: 1

    As long as he's alive, he'll find a way.

  11. Brought it down on himself by Bruce+Perens · · Score: 4, Informative

    This is the Mr. Shkreli who Daraprim from $13.50 to $750/pill. Daraprim is an antiparasitic drug, used to treat pneumonia in conjunction with HIV, toxoplasmosis (sometimes called "mad cat lady disease") and another really nasty parasitic disease.

    When you do stuff like that, people look really closely at whatever else you are doing.

    It also led Imprimis to make a $1/pill replacement for the drug.

    1. Re:Brought it down on himself by Bruce+Perens · · Score: 2

      that should say "raised the price of Diaprim" ...

    2. Re:Brought it down on himself by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It should be noted that Daraprim is available around the for as little as 10 cents a pill which shined a glaring light on the idea of importing drugs from abroad into the US.

    3. Re:Brought it down on himself by Bruce+Perens · · Score: 0

      You mean it's available overseas for that price. Yes, we just have to make sure the makers are really making what they say they are, and that their factories comply with health-related standards.

    4. Re:Brought it down on himself by liquid_schwartz · · Score: 1

      This is the Mr. Shkreli who Daraprim from $13.50 to $750/pill. Daraprim is an antiparasitic drug, used to treat pneumonia in conjunction with HIV, toxoplasmosis (sometimes called "mad cat lady disease") and another really nasty parasitic disease.

      When you do stuff like that, people look really closely at whatever else you are doing.

      It also led Imprimis to make a $1/pill replacement for the drug.

      Or just a lead aspirin (only half kidding). In any case this shows quite well how not letting us import drugs from other countries is an utter scam. We can have "free trade" deals so that all the drugs are made overseas yet we can't buy them from overseas. Utter scam - and it shows how neither D nor R is really on your side as both have had a chance to change this.

    5. Re:Brought it down on himself by thegreatbob · · Score: 1

      If he was smart, he would've come back with the suggestion that he was just doing it to highlight issues with the current system.

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    6. Re:Brought it down on himself by Bruce+Perens · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Most of the elected representatives are my age or older. I went to school with kids who had been injured by thalidomide (hi Anthony, wherever you are!) They are going to be very careful about pharma.

      And yes, the pharma companies have the best government they could buy, I can't deny that either.

      I am fine with drug imports if they are what they say they are, and are made with compliance to health-based standards. But somebody has to audit all of them. There is no shortage of quacks and thieves.

    7. Re:Brought it down on himself by PolygamousRanchKid+ · · Score: 1

      This is the Mr. Shkreli who Daraprim from $13.50 to $750/pill.

      The pharmaceutical industry is a quirky, nasty beast. A doctor I know told me that he has treated patients with leg cramps successfully with quinine . . . as in, a Gin Tonic . . . but without the Gin . . . kind of like a "Zen" Gin Tonic, with no Gin.

      Anyway, you can't patent quinine, so some pharmaceutical want to discourage the use of quinine . . . and replace it with more "profitable" medications. I would normally just right off the doctor as one of those conspiracy kooks . . . but these days . . . not too much surprises or shocks me.

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    8. Re:Brought it down on himself by Bearhouse · · Score: 1

      Nice one Bruce. Most always appreciate your posts.

    9. Re:Brought it down on himself by ItsJustAPseudonym · · Score: 2

      Actually, I think Shkreli's actions are sufficiently notorious that "Daraprim" should qualify as a new verb, meaning "profit-mongering using legal and morally-abhorrent methods".

    10. Re:Brought it down on himself by liquid_schwartz · · Score: 3, Informative

      Most of the elected representatives are my age or older. I went to school with kids who had been injured by thalidomide (hi Anthony, wherever you are!) They are going to be very careful about pharma.

      And yes, the pharma companies have the best government they could buy, I can't deny that either.

      I am fine with drug imports if they are what they say they are, and are made with compliance to health-based standards. But somebody has to audit all of them. There is no shortage of quacks and thieves.

      Simply get them directly from Canada or another 1st world country. This isn't as hard as it's made out to be if we look for solutions instead of excuses.

    11. Re:Brought it down on himself by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Which in the end resulted in a huge improvement. :ike price reduced by over 13X from the old low price. See you fail to grasp that it isnt just his company or that one drug. This is going on all over pharma companies. You point to him as the problem...i point to him as the person who showed the world...this is what is going on...but you stupid fuckers all want to lynch him...but continue to take it up the ass by all the rest of the industry. Its like you dont have functioning brains. You are determined to destroy this guy....when at worst he made money for every investor. And he got some drug prices lower...but instead of take this as a HEY WE NEED TO CORRECT THIS ACROSS ALL DRUGS....you want him in jail raped or murdered and are fine with all the other big drug companies continuing to abuse all of us. FUCK YOU. Fix what he has so clearly shown to be a problem. Fix what he has put his head on the choppin block for. I bet you hate Snowden and Manning too even though it is very much the same thing. You are a blame the messenger type idiot.

    12. Re:Brought it down on himself by GameboyRMH · · Score: 2

      But the new verb should be "to Shkreli." Daraprim did nothing wtrong.

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    13. Re:Brought it down on himself by fafalone · · Score: 1

      It's not entirely a scam; the problem is they lump in countries with excellent controls, like Canada, with countries like India. Counterfeit products with different amounts of the active ingredient, another active ingredient that may do something entirely different, or no active ingredient at all are very common when ordering prescription drugs from companies based there. It's not fearmongering over a super-rare occurrence, it's a very common occurrence.
      While the libertarian in me supports peoples ability to purchase whatever drug they want without the governments permission, there's certainly a case to be made for some protections for people dependent on a medication they can't afford being economically forced to turn to regions that frequently sell drugs that are dangerous because of fraudulent mislabeling of their contents. What absolutely is inexcusable right now though, is importing from Canada and Europe; not allowing that is completely without merit.

    14. Re:Brought it down on himself by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > Yes, we just have to make sure the makers are really making what they say they are, and that their factories comply with health-related standards.

      A number of US federal agencies are not allowed to negotiate the prices of drugs. Don't be dense...oh it's Bruce again.

    15. Re:Brought it down on himself by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ....and it's hardly the only option, there are generic versions

    16. Re:Brought it down on himself by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just one minor detail: as Martin has explained in the interviews multiple times, if you had no insurance, they gave the medicine for free. The only party having to pay more were the insurance companies. Moreover, despite the price hike looking big in percentage, the amount was still only a drop in a bucket in the insurance world.

    17. Re:Brought it down on himself by ItsJustAPseudonym · · Score: 1

      Yah, I know. I was just trying to cut GP some slack. :-)

      I'm sure the action will henceforth be known as "pulling a Shkreli".

  12. I'll believe it when I see it by Dutchmaan · · Score: 5, Insightful

    He'll be out of prison in under 5 years and go right back to do all the things that made him rich at the expense of other people... He's rich and white... and our justice system is baby soft on white collar criminals.

    1. Re:I'll believe it when I see it by thegreatbob · · Score: 1

      A long prison sentence would not necessarily be in everyone's best interest (do taxpayers really want to pay this twit's food and doctor bills?). An extended period of probation (and the fact that he's now a felon) to discourage companies from dealing with him seems like as decent a remedy as we could hope for. I'd be stoked to see him slapped with a maximum sentence, but that odds of that seem vanishingly small.

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    2. Re:I'll believe it when I see it by UnknowingFool · · Score: 1

      I doubt it because his crime in this case was cheating rich, white people. If he had cheated poor people that would have been forgiven and forgotten.

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    3. Re: I'll believe it when I see it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Federal sentence, you serve at least 80% of the time.

    4. Re:I'll believe it when I see it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah again...this shows how stupid your thought process is. He didnt steal from his investors. He did rai a drug price.....and brought the world of scorn onto him. But this is going on everyday in every big drug company...but you cant get mad at them can you....you dont want to fix it....even when he showed the world...here is the problem. The level of idioicy on your part is well...just that. Let me know when somebody in your family needs an epie pen or something similar and cant afford it. Then think about what he brought to front page news...and yet you people are too god damn stupid to learn the lesson. Enjoy you ignorance for the big pharma will rob you over and over because you are mad at a little fish that actually did something to try to start a change.....but no you want him in prision because he offends your moral outrage. FUCK YOU TOO. Like i said cant wait for someone you care about to go without because of overpriced medicine...and now we dont even have that in the news anymore. And that is one of the big reasons we have unaffordable health care. Enjoy the whole fiasco that is Obamacare. Enjoy when noone can afford health care...because it is getting there....very quickly...and infact some parts of America no longer have ANY health insurance AVAILABLE at any price....way to go idiots.

    5. Re:I'll believe it when I see it by JohnFen · · Score: 1

      I disagree. He'll never see the inside of a prison. He is rich, after all, and in our system of justice, that provides a significant amount of immunity.

  13. Rules For Getting Away With Stealing by IonOtter · · Score: 5, Insightful

    1: NEVER STEAL FROM RICH PEOPLE. Only steal from middle-class and below.

    2. If you're still going to steal from rich people, make sure they're not white.

    3. If you obey rules 1 & 2, don't be such a pulsating rectal cyst that even rich white people hate you.

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    1. Re:Rules For Getting Away With Stealing by swb · · Score: 2

      Well, he almost saved it -- he stole from rich people, but ultimately he made them a profit.

      Really, if the securities issues was *all* he had done, I think he wouldn't ever have been charged with anything under a kind of "no harm, no foul" mindset. My guess is that the kind of thing he did probably happens all the time, especially in small funds run by inexperienced or aggressive fund managers. The ones that manage to cover it all get away with.

      But no, he had to be a complete asshole, both as a human being and as a drug company manager.

    2. Re:Rules For Getting Away With Stealing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, at least Trump can follow the first two rules.

      CAPTCHA: RESIST

    3. Re:Rules For Getting Away With Stealing by avandesande · · Score: 1

      My bet is he never does any time, parole and stay away from securities for some length of time.

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  14. Re:give him moe for bad time by erapert · · Score: 1

    Justice == punish people I don't like because I don't like them?
    Way to take the moral high ground.

  15. How did they find a jury? by damn_registrars · · Score: 1

    Apparently in spite of him being one of the most despised people in the country - people who were called for jury duty reacted negatively towards him in the jury screening process even if they didn't know who he was - they still managed to pull together an impartial jury. I'd be surprised if his attorneys don't have an appeal filed before the end of the day Monday.

    Don't get me wrong, I have no pities for him whatsoever, but I would think they would base an appeal on the difficulty of finding an impartial jury. Just because he was found not guilty on 5 of 8 doesn't mean the jury wasn't biased against him. Beyond that, we all know we don't send rich white kids to prison.

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  16. Re:give him moe for bad time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Reading comprehension is fundamental.

    He gets 30 just for existing. Maybe for existing and having an asshole as well? Either way apparently we're all going to jail.

  17. federal pound you in the ass prison by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I hope he gets that

  18. Video by techsoldaten · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I heard his interview after the verdicts were announced:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com...

    Very proud of the return for investors. Plans to keep working on the remaining counts, this will likely end up being appealed.

    I actually believe this was all a marketing campaign for him personally. The fact he's still in some form of legal jeopardy doesn't seem to phase him much.

    He recognized that the costs of a necessary medicine are paid by insurance companies that gouge in other areas as well, and promoted the hell out of that fact. There's a part of me that wants to say this is some form of corporate theater, and he's auditioning for a much larger part in exploiting the financial system.

    1. Re:Video by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nothing phases him much, he has an aloof personality, and that's not due to any reason or logic behind anything, just the desire to be passively antagonistic.

  19. Re:Betteridge's Law of Headlines by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 0

    Betteridge's Law of Headlines clearly states that any headline containing a question should be answered with no.

    And according to the Slashdot Law of Headlines, any headline will be claimed by some AC to be a Betteridge, even when it isn't. This tells us a lot about what ACs consider as evidence.

  20. Re:Oz by nitehawk214 · · Score: 1

    "But her emails!" -harrkev

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  21. Everybody in pharma's doing that by rsilvergun · · Score: 1

    He just talked about it unapologetically. The other rich ass holes came after him when he wouldn't shut up about the scheme.

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  22. Pharma Bro by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    He's a good boy, he didn't do anything. He was going to church and getting his life together. He was a king.

  23. He's bringing down the system by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Seriously, I think he's using reductio ad absurdum to show what a ridiculous system you Americans have.
    Soon coming to UK unfortunately :(

  24. One word: by Rick+Schumann · · Score: 1

    Kharma

    1. Re:One word: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Pharma Kharma

  25. All I can say is... by drew_92123 · · Score: 1

    "HA HA!"

    -Nelson Muntz

  26. Re:Oz by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Are you actually going to outline some objective points? Or continue to spew rhetoric and subjective opinions?

  27. Why didn't this guy flee the country? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I don't get why this guy didn't flee the country. He would live like a king anywhere in the world other than the US and Europe. Even countries with extradition treaties, 4000 pesos or 13,000 rupees will make someone turn around and report that they have have never seen your face in the area.

  28. Re:Oz by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll

    Trump's biggest flaw is that he is corrupt and engages in abusive business practices.

    Egotism is most noticeable flaw.

  29. Re:give him moe for bad time by Frosty+Piss · · Score: 1

    Justice == punish people I don't like because I don't like them?

    They punished him for securities fraud. The fact that he's openly an asshole didn't help his case, but he still commited a serious crime for which he was convicted.

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  30. Re:give him moe for bad time by erapert · · Score: 1

    I was responding to the AC.
    Shkreli is being punished for breaking the law: good.
    But punishing him for being "and asshole", as the AC above wanted, is bad.

  31. Here's some complementary lube by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The stereotype of the "big black dick" is actually pretty accurate, and there's a lot of black people in the American prison system.

    If there is anything to this whole justice and karma thing, this guy will be getting his ass reamed on the regular. Since I'm not a monster, I'd like to offer him some complementary lube to help with the transition of his asshole from tight and pristine to gaping and rimless. Seriously though, if he winds up inside the US prison industrial complex and winds up getting raped in his ass and mouth by large black men, I'll chuckle sensibly, and I hope there's video.

  32. Bring on the prison rape, etc. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've been to prison. Unlike most of you I know what it is actually like.

    Usually, I will say that suggesting someone deserves rape is childish.

    But this Shkreli piece of shit ?

    I hope he is fucked so hard by a huge black bull that he bleeds from his ass for years. I hope he learns what it is like to live in fear every second
    of whatever life remains for him.I hope he dies in prison, and that the guards laugh when they hear him screaming for help and continue playing
    solitaire and do nothing to help him.

  33. Coulda been worse, Marty by GameboyRMH · · Score: 1

    You could've been one of the pregnant women who needed the drug you jacked up the price of...or one of their fetuses.

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  34. NY douchebag by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This article
    https://newrepublic.com/article/144103/trump-mooch-rise-new-york-douchebag
    illuminates the type that Shkreli also exemplifies. The Trump regime is rife with them.

  35. He should be happy... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    that his legal issues aren't over sharing a movie online. Then he would be in real trouble.

  36. Give us the Wu-tang Album! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I say we let him off the hook if he gives us the wu-tang album.
    WHAT SAY YOU??