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An Image Site Is Victimizing Countless Women and Little Can Be Done (vice.com)
Allison Tierney, reporting for Vice: An international anonymous photo-sharing site where people post explicit photos without consent is playing host to the victimization of countless women. In the Canadian section of Anon-IB alone, there are currently over a hundred threads -- often organized by region, city, or calling out for nudes of a specific woman to be posted publicly. "Hamilton hoes," "Nanaimo Thread!," and "Markham wins" are some titles of Canadian threads. (Language used on the site equates the word "win" with sexually explicit photos of women.) Many major Canadian cities are represented on the site, and some threads even focus on women from specific schools. While it's a crime to share an "intimate image" of a person without their consent in Canada, sites that host this kind of activity don't necessarily fall under this. "[In terms of organizing content], is it criminal? No. Is it illegal? No," Toronto-based lawyer Jordan Donich, of Donich Law, told VICE. "It's a newer version of an older problem -- sites like these have been around for a long time." Anon-IB is not a new site; its current domain was registered to a "private person" in 2015 and ends in an ".ru." However, the site was initially up several years before 2015, going offline briefly in 2014.
does that help?
WTF dude?
When Fascism comes to America, it will call itself Anti-Fascism, and tell you to give up your guns.
Why not link to the page.... for research reasons.
now I know where to source free porn !
That being said, this is a problem with the batshit crazy SJW leftist media: they are giving international audience to a dark corner of the web nobody would have cared about. Same goes in the US when the KKK get national airtime, or when in Europe the Government goes after negationist from same hick universities.
to avoid people taking the pics on the first place, where do they think they are going to end up?
tax on phones to redeem victims of this?
The whole of this article is aimed at inciting outrage and promoting a perspective of helplessnews (helplessness).
This will be the last time I look at slashdot for news.
and start going after the posters. These are photos of women. In most cases, I'm pretty sure the women involved know with absolute certainty when the picture was taken, and who took the picture, or if they took the picture themselves, who they shared it with. Go after these people.
This is an opinion piece, about outrage and victimization. How is this tech?
Why do we have this on slashdot news?
Most people aren't thought about after they're gone. "I wonder where Rob got the plutonium" is better than most get.
start going after the posters
For what?
In most cases, I'm pretty sure the women involved know with absolute certainty when the picture was taken, and who took the picture
Great, so we can probably establish who owns the picture's copyright. What are you "going after" them for again?
or if they took the picture themselves, who they shared it with. Go after these people.
OK, finally we have a possibly legit reason. Are you seriously suggesting that we download photos from the site, track down the women involved, and convince them to file DMCA takedowns?
Much of the internet and its technologies were built to share pornography. Sites like this give us all a chance to abuse women and not let the elite pornography producers be the only ones in the game. Yeah, technology and social networks!
now you're back to screaming "victimizing women!". Make up your fucking minds already.
A bullet may have your name on it but splash damage is addressed "To whom it may concern."
People are doing something we don't agree with!
And where they're doing it there's nothing wrong with it, so we're legally powerless!
So let's whine about it really loudly!!!
Is this really a good way to react to a thing you don't like on the internet?
There are certainly issues where I would side with you. Anything in fact where the victim did not intentionally exposed themselves to being photographed in a compromising way. The cretins who post up-skirt photos, I believe should be addressed.
People posing nude or taking nude selfies to send to people does not fall into the same category. Nobody should have the expectation that the recipient/holder of the photos is, or will remain, altruistic and friendly. While nobody gets married intending to get a divorce (or so statically small it's the same thing), we all know and understand that there is a risk of divorce after marriage. Quite a high risk for that matter.
I know this is all common sense and foreign to people, but relationships are emotional by definition. Good or bad, it's still emotional.
-The wise argue that there are few absolutes, the fool argues that there are no probabilities.
Perhaps we need a site that aggregates images of young women that protest topless to attract cameras. How would the feminist intelligentsia deal with that?
I'm thinking what we need is a commission of female Berkeley students to approve everything that gets exposed on the Interweb. That should fix a lot of our problems.
No Evilmenz has ever been exposed in one of these sites. Not one menz, ever. Evil Menz have no right to complain about this, only wimminz can be victimz of this horrible crime.
An hour from Nanaimo Is probably one of the Largest legal nude beaches in the world. Common guys get away from your computer screen and get out in the sun... and hey... you may even get to talk to the ladies, and hit it off :)
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But when it happens, wouldn't the person in the picture know who had legitimate access to it? That should be quite a small group of people, right? So go after them.
Probably because the number of posts has been dwindling lately, so someone thought they'd drive more traffic to the site and hopefully get some more uploaders.
Saying "Don't pose nude" doesn't blame the victims. Just stops people from becoming one.
Your way of life is basically like luring people into entrapment and secretly admiring the shame brought on them while you tell people not to think ill of the victims.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
They can really only be victims if they are aware of the pics being posted.
It is fun, it's intimate and the girls were beautiful. I also delete the pictures when I'm not dating them anymore. They gave me permission to take the pictures and to look at them. They are private pictures between a boyfriend and girlfriend. It is implied that they won't be shared and that I won't look at them after we break up. Also most of the pictures are taken with my camera in my house or around my property. If they leak out it is pretty obvious that either I leaked them (or maybe the girlfriend), so I would be taking a huge risk in being sued if I do keep them and I lost them.
I do think it would help if the police did go after men who post pictures like this with malicious intent. I also think society should really grow up and stop treating sex and sexual acts like they are dirty and immoral. Hint, almost everyone is naked twice a day, most people masturbate and most people enjoy having sex for reasons other than having babies.
Not locking your doors at all is a FAR FUCKING CRY from not having a 13th lock on the door. You commit the fallacy of excluded middle.
Some measures are reasonable. There will always be some gray area but that doesn't excuse anyone from failing to take REASONABLE precautions to prevent something bad from happening.
When people do stupid things, they should feel ashamed of them, so that they learn from them, and do smart things in the future.
And this in no way mitigates the guilt of a perpetrator. The common reaction of "their lack of preparation doesn't justify the crime" is a flawed counter-argument, because it doesn't counter the argument being made. It counters a different argument (that the perp should be let go) which is NOT BEING MADE.
What fascinating to me is porn mags/nudes mags must get models permission to publish but a web site doesn't need any. Here a site that im guessing makes it money by adverting so why are they excluded from requiring permissions. they ARE making money from publishing peoples images Why is the internet held to different standards to the hard copy industry? Good questions i think.
Jack of all trades,master of none
There are a lot of questionable posts on it but the volume of pictures of varying quality buries any pictures that a woman might not want seen. If your picture is up there, unless someone tells your friends exactly where to look, no one will find it, and if they do tell exactly where to look then they could have just as easily sent the picture.
why do people feel the need to post these pictures on the web?
There is plenty of free porn that involves consensual porn-stars.
As someone who has had pictures of partners naked on my phone, I have always deleted them from my phone once i was no longer involved with said person. The person has also had pictures of me on their phone as well and id hoped that they would do the same but even so every picture was taken with the understanding that it may someday end up on the Internet.
There are plenty of ways to see someone naked, but why would anyone post pictures on the Internet making it easier for other people to see them with out putting in any of the work to get them?
Are we really that depraved of a society? i mean if you have a voyeuristic fetish, go to a clothing optional club, beach or camp ground. Strip clubs are always an option and there are always sex workers, you may have to pay for such things but the interactive experience is more rewarding than a couple low res static images or even videos.
Perhaps you should investigate the difference between Criminal and Civil actions. Lets see if we can reason through this, using money since you hinted at it.
A better analogy (IMHO) would be that you and your roommate have a jug and each of you drops money into the jug. One day you come home from work and see a note that your roommate hates you, and moved out while you were at work. You happen to notice that the jug you both put money into is no longer full, and is at roughly half.
Did your roommate commit a crime? If you related this factually: A police officer and DA would tell you no, that you could not prosecute and that there was no criminal action. You could however take them to civil court if you feel that they took more than their fair share and try to get the difference in what you feel was rightly yours versus theirs.
You voluntarily shared your money in the same pile as theirs. The outcome you got was probably not what you wanted, but without your actions the outcome would not have been possible.
Now if a person feels wronged and wants to sue the person uploading the pictures, I'm fine with that. Making a voluntary exchange criminal because someone changes their mind after the fact, not fine. We are all accountable for our actions and any repercussions that arise from our actions. The better our choices the safer and better the outcomes tend to be.
-The wise argue that there are few absolutes, the fool argues that there are no probabilities.
How can we make an informed unbiased opinion without the necessary materials?
The only thing locks do is keep the honest people out.
Really?
We need to decide as a society if women are delicate snowflakes that constantly need protection and whose inviolability is paramount. In this world, we
Or, women are just PEOPLE. A picture of them is no different than say a picture of a man... you know, also a PERSON. *Nobody* in their right might would assert that a clothed picture of a man would ever be "victimizing" them. So why are women particularly vulnerable?
Even an upskirt shot with undies is simply showing a piece of her body with clothing. How is that intrinsically different than their foot with a sock, or a shoulder with a sleeve over it?
Unless, of course, you're asserting that the vagina and breast are somehow magically special and require special treatment?
You cannot insist simultaneously that women are "special" when you want them to be, but demand that they be treated "like everyone else" when you want them to be.
Well, you CAN demand it - but you're simply a hypocrite.
PS thanks for the site suggestion. Will be reviewing and doing disgusting things while doing it, because "victims" turn me on. If they were just people that didn't give a shit? Not so much.
-Styopa
I skimmed the site. It's mostly selfies.
If you don't want nude shots of you on the internet, don't send out nude shots to people you don't know and can't trust.
Oh wait, everyone today is a fucking moron and believes that they should be protected from self-interested actions by others while pursuing their own self-interested actions with impunity. Forgot about that. So all the attention whores get to send out their pics to get their attention fix, and rest assured that they got destroyed as they wished by the flaming assholes that are paying attention to them.
Everyone is a shitbird, including your parents some of the time. News at 11. So I don't feel even a little sorry for anyone on that site.
HBI's Law: Frequency of calling others Nazis is directly correlated with the likelihood of the accuser being Communist.
If I share a bag of grapes with you, should I have a reasonable expectation that you will not give grapes to someone else? Not sure about this one.
The guys that do this are the worst scum in the world, but unless you entered some kind of agreement where they explicitly say they will not share it, you probably shouldn't do it.
You can get so many Asians dirt cheap now since their faces are all wonky.
But its like fucking a retarded girl, and they move really weird too.
Anuses who constantly spam vice.com horse shit.
Anuses who don't even post a link to said image site, but instead link to vice.com horse shit, thinking anyone with half a brain will click that horse shit.
Anuses who have no sources left to talk about but vice.com articles. Vice.com sold out, and is now Fake news, totally politicized. Why does Slashdot keep using it as a source?
I want to make sure I avoid that disgusting site!
But if it's man, like Hulk Hogan's sex tape, it's "journalism." And Slashdot curators don't give two shits.
There are a lot of opinions on here, yet very few of them come from the perspective of a victim of non-consensual pornography (NCP) postings (aka "revenge porn"), specifically on the Anon-IB website. I am one of those victims. This site is notoriously resistant to removing NCP images, and it is hurting many victims.
First, I have had people say "Why did you pose nude?" to my face. It IS victim-blaming, and not a relevant point. What I do in the bedroom with a consensual, intimate partner is my business. That does not give my partner or anyone else the right to violate my privacy and will by sharing images of these encounters with the Internet at large - whether they were taken with my permission and with trust (incidentally, I trusted my partner at the time with my life, yet he broke that trust) or without my permission (say, while I was sleeping). Violating an individual's privacy and will in this way is nothing less than digital rape, yet on a public stage with millions of audience members.
Second, this behavior breaks lives. It certainly broke mine. It took all the strength I had to leave my abusive ex after the domestic violence with him started. His revenge, because he could not find me and control me, was NCP postings like this. As a result, I could not find work. I could not find housing. I would line up good work and good roommates to split expensive housing rents, only to have them disappear when (unbeknownst to me early on) they looked my name up online. My ex was kind enough to label every single posting with my full name and often my contact info as well. There has been no stopping the machine. I became homeless for a time, and struggled to buy enough food to eat. Dozens of strangers daily emailed and texted me photos of their genitalia, sexual propositions, and lewd, malicious comments. My career was ruined, as I watched the Internet scrape the NCP images and my name and infinitely post and repost it, even as my ex reposted daily for years and both lawyers and the police said this behavior wasn't yet illegal. I lost contact with all of my friends and most of my family. I lost my sense of self-worth, dignity, and for years averted my eyes when encountering my naked body in the mirror after getting out of the shower. I developed PTSD and extreme depression, and was suicidal for a time. I became sick with adrenal fatigue from the trauma, which led to an autoimmune disease, which was hard to handle when I couldn't afford health insurance because of my financial ruin as a result of the NCP postings.
Third, be kind. You may think it's great to be funny, or posture yourself as better-than / smarter-than, or think it's witty to say 'pics or it didn't happen.' But this is happening to your mother, your sister, your daughter, your neighbor. The culture of shame on women and the mob mentality of the Internet that makes people think they can say anything they want with impunity is a serious problem. It is not acceptable. Just because you CAN, doesn't mean you should. Now, hate is nothing new to time or humanity, that's true, and this is just the latest mode to which our legal system has not yet caught up. But there is far greater power and control (over self, imagine that!) in treating others with lovingkindness and compassion than with hate.
Finally, to the other victims (and the future victims, who just don't know it yet) reading this - don't let yourself be silenced. Stop and take a stand. Speak truth. We have a voice. You are not alone.