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Justice Department Demands 1.3 Million IP Addresses Related To Anti-Trump Website (theverge.com)
An anonymous reader quotes a report from The Verge: In a blog post today, online web hosting provider DreamHost disclosed that it has been involved in a months-long legal battle with the Justice Department over records on visitors to an anti-Trump website. The dispute focuses on a Justice Department demand for information on data related to disruptj20.org, which describes itself as a group of activists "building the framework needed for mass protests to shut down the inauguration of Donald Trump and planning widespread direct actions to make that happen." DreamHost is taking issue with a warrant issued by the department for "all files" related to the website, which DreamHost says would compel them to turn over electronic data like visitor logs. That would include IP addresses and other information that could be used to identify anyone who visited the site. "The request from the DOJ demands that DreamHost hand over 1.3 million visitor IP addresses -- in addition to contact information, email content, and photos of thousands of people -- in an effort to determine who simply visited the website," the company said in its blog post. The warrant, DreamHost argues, would also require it to hand over any communications that are even tangentially related to the website.
"In essence, the Search Warrant not only aims to identify the political dissidents of the current administration, but attempts to identify and understand what content each of these dissidents viewed on the website," the company said in a legal filing arguing against the warrant. A hearing on the situation is set for Friday in Washington, DC Superior Court.
"In essence, the Search Warrant not only aims to identify the political dissidents of the current administration, but attempts to identify and understand what content each of these dissidents viewed on the website," the company said in a legal filing arguing against the warrant. A hearing on the situation is set for Friday in Washington, DC Superior Court.
However: Would like a little bit more background here. Too much conspiracy theory going on now..
Simply sniffing out all who disagree with the current administration (raises hand), and would protest it (raises other hand), stinks of police state tactics.
Now, why are both my hands in the air again?
Silence is a state of mime.
This clearly isn't an incredibly broad overreach by an administration that shows that it hates being questioned or criticized at all.
Oh shit, did I have sarcasm enabled?
Mr. Hu is not a ninja.
Were there 1.3 million rioters?
Mr. Hu is not a ninja.
So it's finally confirmed, it was not fake news? There were more protesters than visitors at the inauguration?
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
So then, the DoJ should also go after all the site, and people on those sites, that Fields, or whatever the guy's name is, who used his car as weapon of mass destruction as well. I'm assuming you have no problem with that as well, right? Guilt by association? Though-crime even?
So you've got proof that this guy engaged in a premeditated act? No? See that difference right there. They went to DC with the purpose of doing what they did, that's the fundamental difference between the two. This isn't rocket surgery by any stretch.
Then again, to shift gears into the "guilt by association" bit, after the 2 terrorist attacks in Canada, several muslim groups came out saying that all mosques should be under 24hr surveillance. That was really fun to watch as the left up here turned themselves into pretzels over.
Om, nomnomnom...
I think you mean hate speech is legal in the US. Organizing protests, and objecting are also legal. Using a website however to plan a riot or commit any crime? That's illegal, and that's why they want the info.
Om, nomnomnom...
So, that's a valid excuse for this abuse of Executive power? This dragnet?
Yeah, let's ignore the violent right wing assholes in Charlottesville.
And let's ignore the fact that you are using violence as an excuse for the implication of eradication of our rights - the weapon of the right wing. "Oh noes!! Terrorists - violence! Let's eliminate our civil liberties!!"
Keep in mind sir, that as we chip away at the First and Fourth amendment, it weakens the Second - the Second is just for show now. The government KNOWS everyone who got the guns . The storm troopers from the DOJ will raid the houses with the guns, take them, and good luck in the courts.
And as far this issue is concerned, you can bet good money that the courts will eventually side with the government - they usually do - even in "liberal" areas.
At least sometimes now, when the justice department trounces on our rights, we hear about it.
The Trump administration is collecting the names of these people so he can finally prove there were actually 1,3 million people at his inauguration.
You are welcome on my lawn.
Trump is merely looking for proof of his massive inauguration crowd size.
Freedom to fear. Freedom from thought. Freedom to kill.
I guess the War on Terror really is about freedom!
"Narrow scope" (defined & specific) is one of the legal requirements for a valid search warrant.
A group the size of about half of the US population during the signing of the constitution cannot be considered a "narrow scope." 1.3 milliion and narrow scope are mutually exclusive.
This is my signature. There are many like it, but this one is mine.
And Obama outright asked the people to turn in names of people they knew who weren't on board with Obamacare. In addition his IRS attacked individual citizens based on their political affiliations
Things that never happened for $200, Alex. Stop with the #fakenews.
And what's missing from your post? That of those 230 people arrested some were journalists, lawyers, and medics, not protesters. DC police basically cordoned off areas and indiscriminately arrested everyone there. Which you seem to happily leave out.
The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for it to be pitted against a slightly greater evil
And Obama outright asked the people to turn in names of people they knew who weren't on board with Obamacare.
In addition his IRS attacked individual citizens based on their political affiliations
Things that never happened for $200, Alex. Stop with the #fakenews.
Right here are the citations for you — something the anonymous OP should've included in his post, of course:
Obama's Whitehouse asking people to "flag" opponents of Obamacare:After people got outraged about this solicitation, the above text was eventually removed.
The IRS really did target conservatives:Two out of two things you dismissed as "fake news" are in fact true and indisputable. Good score, keep it up!
I'm sorry, but no....
The original accusations were...
- Obama outright asked the people to turn in names of people they knew who weren't on board with Obamacare.
This is False. Even the quote that you provided proves that it's false. The Obama administration request was to provide copies of articles, news stories, etc. that seemed to be inaccurate or questionable. This was so that they could develop a marketing program to address false rumors. At no point did the Obama administration ask for names, email addresses, etc. Granted, most people would not have been smart enough to scrub the email of personal identification which causes privacy issues. But the fact is that they didn't request names, just stories.
- The IRS attacked individual citizens based on their political affiliations
This is badly worded or deliberately misleading. The IRS did discriminate against certain political groups by performing deeper audits. But, to the best of my knowledge, they didn't target individual citizens.
Yes, because when you divide 200 by 1.3 million, you get a really small number. plus, half of the people arrested probably weren't even rioting. You know, since post 9/11, we just arrest anybody we don't like, and get around to their rights later, if we feel like it.
This is my signature. There are many like it, but this one is mine.
Keep going - you still several to do!
Yeah, right.
Then why did the IRS apologize for "targeting groups with “tea party” or “patriot” in their names"? Just playing footsies?
Browsing at +1 - no ACs, I ignore their posts. So refreshing!