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Gates Makes Largest Donation Since 2000 With $4.6 Billion Pledge (bloomberg.com)

From a report: Bill Gates made his largest gift since the turn of the century, giving away Microsoft shares that accounted for 5 percent of his fortune, the world's biggest. The billionaire donated 64 million of the software maker's shares valued at $4.6 billion on June 6, according to a Securities & Exchange Commission filing released Monday. While the recipient of the gift wasn't specified, Gates has made the majority of his donations to the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, the charity he and his wife use to direct their philanthropic efforts. It's the largest gift of Microsoft shares that Gates has made since 2000. The 61-year-old gave away $16 billion worth of Microsoft shares in 1999 and $5.1 billion a year later, according to calculations by Bloomberg.

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  1. $55k by 110010001000 · · Score: 2

    I make $55k doing IT support in Silicon Valley. What am I doing wrong?

  2. That's not giving it away by drinkypoo · · Score: 4, Insightful

    He still controls all of that money, but now he doesn't have to pay taxes on it.

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    1. Re:That's not giving it away by enjar · · Score: 4, Informative

      They publish annual reports of where the money goes, and independent auditor reports. It's not like he's spending it on oil paintings of himself. https://www.gatesfoundation.or... https://www.gatesfoundation.or...

    2. Re:That's not giving it away by sycodon · · Score: 5, Insightful

      You think he's going to buy a yacht with it?

      You think he's gonna buy hookers with it?

      Why are you people so bent out of shape?

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    3. Re:That's not giving it away by swillden · · Score: 5, Insightful

      He still controls all of that money, but now he doesn't have to pay taxes on it.

      He didn't pay any taxes on it before. You don't pay taxes on unrealized gains. Now, he's made it so that he'll never realize any gains on that stock, and so that he can't spend it on himself, but only on charitable efforts. By any reasonable definition of the word, that is "giving it away". The most you can argue is that until the Gates Foundation (assuming that's where it went) spends it on fighting malaria or whatnot, it hasn't actually been given away yet. But he's moved it to where it can only be given away, so that's a distinction without a difference.

      Not that he doesn't still have more money than he could ever possibly spend on himself anyway. This gift will have no impact on his personal life.

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    4. Re:That's not giving it away by MightyYar · · Score: 3, Informative

      I should say the same for you. He wasn't paying taxes before. The parent implies that he needs to pay taxes on it now. He does not - it is paper wealth, and we have no wealth tax. When he dies, his estate would have to pay taxes unless the assets were first donated to a charity. When he dies, he has control over nothing - the trustees of the charity will. He can make his wishes known, and that's it.

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    5. Re:That's not giving it away by bws111 · · Score: 5, Informative

      The point that SANE people are getting is there AREN'T any benefits like you suppose.

      Let's say you have $1B in unrealized gains. Your tax liability on that is exactly $0.

      Supposed you realize the gains, and DO NOT donate. You pay $150M tax, and keep $850M for yourself. However, if you donate the shares, you pay $0 taxes and keep $0 for yourself. Where, exactly, is this supposed 'benefit'? It may be bad financially for the government (aww) if you donate, but it is worse financially for you if you DO donate.

      The 'he controls the wealth' is nonsense. The foundation controls the wealth, and their are strict laws on what can and can not be done with the money. Chief among the 'can nots' is that the money can not benefit HIM.

    6. Re:That's not giving it away by ranton · · Score: 2

      The 'he controls the wealth' is nonsense. The foundation controls the wealth, and their are strict laws on what can and can not be done with the money. Chief among the 'can nots' is that the money can not benefit HIM.

      While I do generally like how Bill Gates has been spending his billions, just because he cannot buy a yacht with the money doesn't mean it doesn't benefit him. Bill Gates still has all the money he will ever need to buy anything he will ever want. Just about the only thing left is the ability to do the type of social engineering usually reserved for governments.

      Bill Gates donates to his charity so he has control over 100% of those social engineering efforts, instead of only around 80% of it. If he paid taxes on those realized gains, the government would get to decide how to spend some of that money instead of Gates.

      Ignoring whether or not it is a good thing that billionaires are able to "play government" with their billions without paying their full tax burden, it is at least true that Gates is dodging taxes with this charitable giving. Whether or not that is a bad thing is another conversation.

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    7. Re:That's not giving it away by MattskEE · · Score: 2

      You know that the Gates foundation also does a lot of work in the US right? And it buys things from taxpaying US companies, funds research in the US through grants, and directly employs US taxpayers. The US sees direct benefits from his foundation.

      Further, he is absolutely free to direct his foundations priorities in the areas where he wants to make an impact, so long as the foundation keeps meeting the IRS definition of a charitable non-profit. It's all charitable work so it's tax exempt the same as every other charitable organization.

      I don't see what there is to complain about when the Gates foundation is treated the exact same way as any other charitable non-profit.

  3. Re:Please donate responsibly by Lisandro · · Score: 2, Insightful

    You should check on Gate's philanthropy background. Think what you may about him, he donated a shitload of money to very good causes over the world.

  4. Re:Please donate responsibly by KiloByte · · Score: 2

    He also made massive donations to promoting genital mutilation (instead of fighting it).

    He also prefers $1000 per dose meds bought from companies he cooperates with instead of $2 per dose of the same substance produced locally. Worse, receiving those $1000 meds usually comes with strings attached where they're contingent on passing laws that shut down production of generics in the name of "intellectual property".

    B&M Gates Foundation is one of worst charities.

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  5. 64 million shares? by Black.Shuck · · Score: 5, Funny

    That should be enough for anybody.

  6. Re:Tax dodge by bws111 · · Score: 2

    What you are complaining about is that he didn't pay taxes on money he never had and never will have. Do you pay taxes on money you never had?

  7. Psychological stimulation by poofmeisterp · · Score: 2

    When you have that much money, you can randomly do weird things with it, with no risk, to get attention focused on you or to see what comes out of peoples' mouths... sort of a litmus test, if you will. I can't imagine what it would be like to have that much money and get bored enough to fuck with it just to stir the proverbial pot.

    I digress.

  8. Not Impressed by Jarwulf · · Score: 2

    If Gates wants to do something that was unquestionably sincere maybe he should give back that money to all the people he swindled so that they can be the revered philanthropists rather than use it to intentionally/inadvertently pump up his own reputation. Otherwise its just like a bankrobber donating to charity. Admittedly the money is going to a lot of good causes but its also going to some bad causes too. And the people he crushed could have donated that money all the same. When he’s as rich as he is theres nothing left to buy but your own legacy, a rational psychopath could do what Gate’s is doing so why he gets so much credit is puzzling. No doubt, he’s shown he’s very smart but he’s also shown he’s a ruthless businessman, a businessman who perhaps is still playing the same game he’s been playing just at a higher level. Instead of throwing money to buy businesses he’s throwing money around to buy hearts and minds. Maybe he’s truly changed but I’ve seen no evidence.

  9. Self-donation shell game. by sethstorm · · Score: 2

    There's no donation, just a move-around.

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  10. ITT ignorance by XSportSeeker · · Score: 2

    I fully expect the comment area in this post to be filled with comments from people who never even heard all the stuff the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation did over the years.
    Because of course there is a predominant bias against Microsoft that will certainly contaminate and overlook all the work that the foundation has done.

    Quick read here before you post your creed against it:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

    If you'd rather have Gates keep his money and let it go to his own family so that we have another bunch of Trumps running around, I hope you rot in hell.