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Google Allo For Chrome Finally Arrives, But Only For Android Users (engadget.com)

Google Allo, the chat app that arrived on the iPhone and Android devices last year, now has a web counterpart. Head of product for Allo and video chat app Duo, Amit Fulay, tweeted: "Allow for web is here! Try it on Chrome today. Get the latest Allo build on Android before giving it a spin." Engadget reports: To give it a go, you'll need to open the Allo app on your device and use that to scan a QR code you can generate at this link. Once you've scanned the code, Allo pulls up your chat history and mirrors all the conversations you have on your phone. Most of Allo's key features, including smart replies, emoji, stickers and most importantly the Google Assistant are all intact here. In fact, this is the first time you can really get the full Google Assistant experience through the web; it's been limited to phones and Google Home thus far.

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  1. Oblig. Allo, allo by nospam007 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Listen very carefully, for I shall say this only once.

    1. Re:Oblig. Allo, allo by Big+Hairy+Ian · · Score: 1

      Listen very carefully, for I shall say this only once.

      Good Moaning

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  2. Allo? by darkain · · Score: 1
    1. Re:Allo? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      a subtle reference to google having allocated enough storage to mine your conversations and contacts and location history and......

  3. Finally! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Another app I'll never use.

  4. Huh? by bickerdyke · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Sounds complicated. I'll stick with Hangouts. Multi-device, web and app available, group chats and single chats, audio and video..... Google should buy that if they want a good messenger.

    oh.. wait a sec..

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    1. Re:Huh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If it's so great, why does nobody use it? Hangouts market share isn't just tiny relative to the big guns - WhatsApp, FB, Insta - it's also small compared to apps I've never even heard of. FWIW I personally find the Hangouts UI messy and unfocussed. As soon as Messages came out, I switched to that for SMS, and I use WhatsApp for everything else. Hangouts is a mish-mash, I'd rather have separate, more focussed apps.

    2. Re:Huh? by FatAlb3rt · · Score: 1

      Well, I guess since I see so many people with Beats headphones, those must be good. Is that how the line of thinking goes?

    3. Re:Huh? by MachineShedFred · · Score: 1

      It would help if Google would actually do some development on it, and not just keep creating replacements and abandoning what was there before.

      Gchat and Google Voice are a thing, then Hangouts becomes a thing and the first to are left to wither away. Now a new chat thing comes along and Hangouts is left to wither away.

      I can't imagine why people don't want to hitch to this platform, and why other apps might be more popular to use. Maybe if Google didn't fuck over every single person that ever uses one of their apps, more people would give it a go?

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  5. The new Google+ by paulatz · · Score: 4, Funny

    There is a huge demand for this new chat app, this is going to be a big hit! All the people who use google+ will also want to use Allo

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    1. Re:The new Google+ by esperto · · Score: 1
      I use google+ and not even I want to use Allo.

      Google is making a stupid decision after another lately, and their decisions over messaging applications are a poster child of this, they had a really nice thing with gtalk, decided for whatever reason create another one, hangouts, and force everyone over to that instead of improving gtalk, people didn't like that, then they did it again, but this time they've already had lost a huge base, most people were either on facebook messenger, whatsapp (which is now also facebook), telegram or apple own messenger, and the best feature of Allo was AI, because you can't answer your own messages (????), so people just said fuck it, I'm not going to bother to change over to a application nobody uses and that the company that make it has ADHD and tomorrow will change over again.

    2. Re:The new Google+ by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No. I use G+ and on occasion Hangouts for people without Signal - everything else goes through Signal (or email). Allo is just an attempt to lure in non-Hangouts users to Hangouts... under a new name.

  6. Thanks, I'll pass. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'll take the banana, thankyouverymuch.

  7. Thank goodness by DrXym · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Remember when Google used to support XMPP (Jabber) protocol so chat was federated and people could use what software they liked?

    These days, every chat provider is just a vertical, proprietary walled off service. First they snare you with the kewl features, then they scrape your contacts. Then they start grabbing your GPS location. Then they start pushing ads and services at you "relevant to your conversations and location". Then they start integrating features of product B until the chat software is a bloated mess. Then they calve off product B into its own app but make it mandatory you install it as part of a suite. Then a new chat app comes along which claims to do away with the bloat, rinse and repeat.

    Just implement a secure, federated, open protocol and stop this nonsense. At that point chat can be part of the phone software stack. Apps can compete on their front ends and other functions they offer.

    1. Re:Thank goodness by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You forgot the part about many features continuing to run in the background and using battery and data such that when you actually want to talk to someone you run out of one or both halfway through.

    2. Re:Thank goodness by loonycyborg · · Score: 1

      I think it would be better to have a single standard for IM identity and bridging, so people could jump messaging apps without losing their contacts. A single federated IM protocol strictly speaking isn't needed for this.

    3. Re:Thank goodness by DrXym · · Score: 2

      Yes that too. Worsened in reality because most people would have to run multiple chat apps for all the people they might communicate with. It's bullshit and there is no reason for it.

    4. Re: Thank goodness by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There's already an interchangeable standard messaging platform. It's called SMS/MMS

    5. Re:Thank goodness by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think it would be better to have a single standard for IM identity and bridging, so people could jump messaging apps without losing their contacts. A single federated IM protocol strictly speaking isn't needed for this.

      No, it's just the most obvious way to do it that's proven effective before. But yeah, why on earth would you want that?

    6. Re:Thank goodness by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What do you imagine exactly? That the internet is somehow supposed to be de-centralized? Silly talk.

    7. Re: Thank goodness by DrXym · · Score: 1

      Yes and it's tied to your telephone number and many carriers charge large amounts of money for it. Now imagine something like that which is federated, works over the internet, is secure and encrypted (such that nobody in the middle knows more than necessary to deliver between the sender and recipient) and you have what chat should be.

    8. Re: Thank goodness by Joce640k · · Score: 1

      ...which is woefully insecure and you get to pay per message sent!

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    9. Re: Thank goodness by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I get offered more free SMS messages than I could possibly want to send, but other forms are more convenient in that I have the same client and account on multiple devices, and sharing of images tends to be better.

    10. Re:Thank goodness by TeknoHog · · Score: 1

      Remember when Google used to support XMPP (Jabber) protocol so chat was federated and people could use what software they liked?

      I'm using my Hangup^H^Houts account with Pidgin (XMPP) right now. So yes, I do remember it rather well.

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    11. Re: Thank goodness by tepples · · Score: 1

      If the man in the middle cannot read messages that you send or receive, then how can it back up your chat history to keep it accessible across all your devices? That's one reason I find IRC inconvenient as an IM protocol: I can't review previous conversations that I had on a previous device.

    12. Re: Thank goodness by golgotha007 · · Score: 1

      >how can it back up your chat history to keep it accessible across all your devices?

      That's why you typically scan the QR code between clients, you're sharing your private key across applications. All of your chat history is stored encrypted server-side.

    13. Re: Thank goodness by DrXym · · Score: 1

      Easily. The service itself could store the encrypted data and only devices you've authorised are able to decrypt it.

    14. Re: Thank goodness by tepples · · Score: 1

      That's why you typically scan the QR code between clients

      That'd work for WhatsApp or Allo, both of which require the subscriber to have a phone, but not for users who use only a PC. How would a PC-only user of an app that allows PC-only users copy the private key from one copy of an application to another? Consider the case where one of those copies is a JavaScript application running in a web browser for two reasons: it could be a machine whose administrator allows the user to run JavaScript in a browser but forbids the user to permanently install native applications, or it could be a machine running a operating system to which the native application happens not to have yet been ported. Or does the ease of copying private keys through an application for a major smartphone operating system justify requiring each subscriber to own and use a major smartphone?

    15. Re: Thank goodness by MachineShedFred · · Score: 1

      Never heard of encryption?

      This magical technology would allow only the intended recipients to read it, while still allowing storage by the service provider. Crazy, right?

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    16. Re: Thank goodness by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because encrypted communications never existed before smartphones.

      You are asking a question that has been answered about a million times in the past already.

    17. Re: Thank goodness by tepples · · Score: 1

      Then which services still popular in 2017 use the method used "about a million times in the past already"?

  8. Overcomplicated or what by mrbester · · Score: 3, Insightful

    So, in order to use this on my device, I have to go into an already installed app (so why do I need this?). Then in that app I have to use the camera to scan a QR code generated by a link, meaning it has to be on the screen of a *different* device. One that I can't use the end result on anyway.

    So I need two devices to run code in the app so I don't have to use the app. TFA in this case means Totally Fucking Awful. Who signed off on this shitty process?

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    1. Re:Overcomplicated or what by MachineShedFred · · Score: 1

      Also, what do you do if you are on a desktop that doesn't have a camera (yes, they exist) or a laptop without a camera (they also exist).

      Seems like a lot of work to use what is essentially Hangouts, which was essentially Gchat. Which was essentially many other IM products that came before it.

      Maybe they could launch yet another chat service which doesn't work with the previous ones, and let the previous ones all die a death of neglect - because they've never done that before...

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    2. Re:Overcomplicated or what by nate_in_ME · · Score: 1

      The camera isn't needed on the computer, the computer screen displays the QR code and you scan it from within the Allo app on your phone (which most likely DOES have a camera)

    3. Re:Overcomplicated or what by MachineShedFred · · Score: 1

      That makes far more sense. Thank you.

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  9. if it supported SIP by johnjones · · Score: 1

    if it supported the standard SIP in addition to its other features then I personally would use it and I think it would get traction.

    SIP support (voice and video calling) would mean I could use it for the work extension and home without multiple clients.

    without SIP or some compelling feature its a also ran experiment that some will care about...

    1. Re:if it supported SIP by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Your Android phone already supports SIP. You can add as many SIP accounts as you want. It's in phone under calls, calling accounts, sip accounts.

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  10. So identical to WhatsApp, then? by Bearhouse · · Score: 2

    ...need to open the Allo app on your device and use that to scan a QR code you can generate at this link. Once you've scanned the code, Allo pulls up your chat history and mirrors all the conversations you have on your phone....

    and iMessage, both of which already have a gazillion users already. Not counting FB messenger...
    How Google continues to screw up this lucrative sector amazes me, with Android and Chrome as a base they should be cleaning up, especially since M$ as essentially killed-off Skype by making it unusable (except for business users).

  11. Re:Nothing but boners... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It was good while it lasts!

    What a strange coincidence. That's exactly what your mother said!

  12. Okay . . . . by reboot246 · · Score: 1

    Would someone explain exactly why I would want or need this? I just don't see the need and I certainly don't want another google app taking up space I could use for something really useful.

  13. Opensource by short · · Score: 1

    Where are the sources and best also already a port as a native Linux client?

  14. Oblig XKCD needs updating... by Geeky · · Score: 2

    This XKCD needs updating... or does Allo have so few users it doesn't even register on the radar?

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    1. Re:Oblig XKCD needs updating... by infolation · · Score: 1

      That XKCD doesn't even include Wire messenger, which has many more reasons for its existance than 'Allo'.

  15. Line by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    and Line, and that other one I've forgotten that China uses.

    Nobody will use this because Google already knows too much. Sign up to a Google play store and a phone number is now compulsory.... "to prove you're not a robot".... yeh right, that's why Google play needs that.....

    Google have become such a creepy data grabber, I hope they get slapped down hard. As it is I avoid their search, and use disposable addresses where they force me to register to minimize Google's data snarfing..

    1. Re:Line by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What kind of morons sign up to google play? 'Apps' that require it self identify as 'apps' you don't want on you phone. How else would you know.

    2. Re:Line by spire3661 · · Score: 1

      Microsoft requires a phone number for MS accounts now as well. Its not required to sign up, but they will lock you out of your account until you provide one. There is no way to get around it.

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    3. Re:Line by tepples · · Score: 1

      And with the Windows installation process strongly encouraging use of a Microsoft account since Windows 8, does this mean people are required to buy a cell phone and maintain a subscription to cellular service in order to use the operating system that comes preinstalled on the vast majority of PCs in North America?

    4. Re:Line by MachineShedFred · · Score: 1

      Well, you could always get a free phone number through Hangouts / Google Voice, until the inevitable demise of that service...

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    5. Re: Line by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not sure about Windows but my ms/live/hotmail/whatever accounts work just fine without a phone#

  16. FINALLY, I was so tired by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    of having to send all my very private and personal conversations to Google manually - but now Allo will do it for me.

  17. Surprise! Seriously - huge surprise! by bradley13 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I just wrote a comment grousing about yet-another-walled-off-chat-app. But then I did a brief search, and...

    Surprise: Allo apparently uses the Signal protocol, which is an open standard. More, it's a standard that included end-to-end encryption. Unless Google deliberately and specifically broke compatibility, it should be possible for an Allo user to communicate with a Signal user, or anyone else with an app that supports the Signal protocol.

    At the moment, I stick to SMS because that lets me send a message to someone without caring about what app they happen to have installed. Everyone can receive an SMS. Kind of pathetic, but there we are. But I use Signal to send those SMS messages, so if someone has a Signal-compatible app, it should automatically upgrade the communications channel.

    Here's hoping: If this is the beginning of a movement back to open protocols, the world will be a better place...

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    1. Re:Surprise! Seriously - huge surprise! by johanw · · Score: 1

      > nless Google deliberately and specifically broke compatibility, it should be possible for an Allo user to communicate with a Signal user, or anyone else with an app that supports the Signal protocol.

      Certainly not, unless Google got an agreement with Open Whisper Systems that they can federate with their servers, and giving OWS's history (they have already bad experiences with Cyanogen in the past on that) I doubt they'll do that.

    2. Re:Surprise! Seriously - huge surprise! by fred6666 · · Score: 1

      At the moment, I stick to SMS because that lets me send a message to someone without caring about what app they happen to have installed. Everyone can receive an SMS.

      Wrong, since you need a cellular radio (or some other SMS gateways) and a phone number to receive SMS. You can't receive an SMS on a regular PC.

    3. Re:Surprise! Seriously - huge surprise! by antdude · · Score: 1

      It sucks that none of the contacts have SIgnal to encrypt our SMSes. I wish SMSes had encryption already. :(

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  18. Re:Nothing but boners... by nospam007 · · Score: 1

    "Shut up, nospam007. You are a stupid retard."

    It takes one to know one. :-)

    "I turn 24 the other day, "

    Then get the fuck off my lawn!

  19. I guess.. by CptLoRes · · Score: 1

    Google after all this time, finally figured out how to integrate and setup a working WebRTC system. I understand their pain, for something that could have been so much simpler. Ohh wait, they where involved in making WebRTC? I retract, no sympathy from me.

  20. back in my day... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Allo's key features, including smart replies, emoji, stickers and most importantly the Google Assistant are all intact here.

    Back in my day, we used to chat using actual words, which we wrote ourselves.

  21. It's not for the Web, it's only for Chrome by roca · · Score: 1

    In fact, it even blocks non-Chrome Chromium browsers such as Opera etc!

  22. About time by swillden · · Score: 1

    Yeah, yeah, all the comments about yet another chat app, and how Google has 20 of them...

    Allo is actually pretty nice, with the integrated assistant and all. My kids are all using it, but the mobile-only aspect killed me. I'm old, and I hate typing on a mobile keyboard, plus I spend a big chunk of my waking hours in front of a real keyboard. I like being able to use my phone when I'm away from the computer, but it's so much better to have a real keyboard, where I can type 100 wpm, rather than 2.

    This will make it a lot easier for me to chat with my kids, and I may even start using it with other people.

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    1. Re:About time by tepples · · Score: 1

      Then don't use a mobile keyboard. Buy a full-size USB keyboard and a USB OTG adapter, and physically plug it into your phone's USB port. You can even get a Model M from Unicomp if you want.

    2. Re:About time by swillden · · Score: 1

      I have a bluetooth keyboard that I could use, if I wanted to do that. But I don't want an extra keyboard on my desk. I have one already.

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  23. Keeping the name? by OneHundredAndTen · · Score: 1

    I am surprised that Google is using the same name for this under Chrome. Google has an extensive history of changing names so as to maximize confusion and doubt. It is probably the only company that seems to be keen on promoting FUD about themselves.

  24. Typo in post by itwasgreektome · · Score: 1

    Post says "...tweeted: "Allow for web is here! ..." Allo, not allow.

    1. Re: Typo in post by Brockmire · · Score: 1

      BeauHD, it's 11 hours later, and you still haven't corrected the misquote. Please take some fucking care when quoting people, eh? You fucking linked to his actual words so you look incompetent. Slashdot would be ran better by a high school newspaper team. They'd proofread for fucks sake.

  25. DOA by sremick · · Score: 1

    Browser-specific? What is this, the 1990s and Microsoft? I don't use Chrome.

    And tied to a specific device, which has to be operational? One of the reasons we love and use Hangouts is because it works no matter what the state of your other device(s) is. Sometimes phones break or become inoperable. The fact that I can still hop in a web browser (ANY web browser) and still access my text messages (Google Voice) and IMs is a lifesaver.

    This is boneheaded, and makes Allo even more DOA than it was before.

    1. Re:DOA by ledow · · Score: 1

      Otherwise known as "Let's copy WhatsApp Web".

  26. For people who own both a phone and a PC by tepples · · Score: 2

    It's for people who already use this app on a phone and want to additionally use a desktop or laptop computer with its larger screen and physical keyboard. In other words, it's a counterpart to WhatsApp web access.

  27. Most people carry cell phones by tepples · · Score: 1

    I think bradley13's point is that almost everybody with a valid reason to communicate with bradley13 already carries a device with a cellular radio on a plan with at least several hundred monthly sent and received messages, and those few who do not (such as damn_registrars and irrational-design) can easily acquire one.

    But I wonder how many people in bradley13's circle of friends have North American pay-as-you-go plans. Carriers in the U.S. and Canada bill both the sending account and the receiving account for each message. T-Mobile, for example, charges 10 cents for each sent message and 10 cents for each received message.

    1. Re:Most people carry cell phones by fred6666 · · Score: 1

      The point is not whether someone carries a phone or not.
      Why would I type on a small phone when I sit in front of a big display and keyboard? An Internet-connected PC which is much more convenient to reply? Sending SMS and forcing people to reply from a phone is rude.

    2. Re:Most people carry cell phones by tepples · · Score: 1

      Why would I type on a small phone when I sit in front of a big display and keyboard?

      In order to send messages between those times when you "sit in front of a big display and keyboard". Or do you have a laptop on your person everywhere you go?

      Sending SMS and forcing people to reply from a phone is rude.

      Is it also rude for someone to have an IM waiting for him but not read it nor reply to it because he subscribes to SMS but not cellular data and is away from home, work, or a public hotspot?

    3. Re:Most people carry cell phones by fred6666 · · Score: 1

      Why would I type on a small phone when I sit in front of a big display and keyboard?

      In order to send messages between those times when you "sit in front of a big display and keyboard". Or do you have a laptop on your person everywhere you go?

      Since when do you need a laptop to read messages received over the Internet, such as emails and instant messages? A smartphone can do it just fine.

      Sending SMS and forcing people to reply from a phone is rude.

      Is it also rude for someone to have an IM waiting for him but not read it nor reply to it because he subscribes to SMS but not cellular data and is away from home, work, or a public hotspot?

      No, it isn't. Just like it isn't rude to send an email to such a person.
      Also that person can use an email to SMS gateway if he/she wants to read messages on the go.

    4. Re:Most people carry cell phones by tepples · · Score: 1

      Why would I type on a small phone when I sit in front of a big display and keyboard?
      [...]
      Since when do you need a laptop to read messages received over the Internet, such as emails and instant messages? A smartphone can do it just fine.

      Because it's inconvenient to reply to "messages received over the Internet" "on a small phone".

    5. Re:Most people carry cell phones by fred6666 · · Score: 1

      What is so hard to understand? If I am close to my PC, I want to reply from my PC. If I am not, I may want to be able to reply from my phone as a backup.

  28. Or just use SMS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Pretty ubiquitous

  29. Re:Nothing but boners... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Does turning 24 come with grammar or etiquette training? No? That is patently obvious.

  30. Allo Allo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Now read very carefully, I will write this only once.

  31. With all the spying and data mining, why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why would anyone use something other than Signal or other end-to-end encrypted chat apps?

    That, and the fact that Google just keeps orphaning projects to move onto their next 'new thing'.

  32. U.S. only and requires an existing number by tepples · · Score: 1

    Google Voice is unavailable outside the United States and still requires a phone number. Receiving phone calls requires either a Google Voice number or a Project Fi number, which is also available outside the United States. (Source) Even if you are among the minority (~5%) of people who do live in the United States, signing up for Google Voice requires a phone number to which to forward calls. (Source)

  33. CORRECTION by tepples · · Score: 1

    which is also available outside the United States

    This should be "which is also unavailable outside the United States" as stated in the source.

  34. Who pays to store encrypted chat logs? by tepples · · Score: 1

    Who pays to store encrypted chat logs? I imagine that the provider of a storage facility would be unwilling to store information that it cannot decrypt because information that it cannot decrypt isn't useful for choosing the most relevant advertisements to show to the provider's users. Or would you and everyone with whom you communicate be fine with a paywall around the storage of chat logs?

    1. Re:Who pays to store encrypted chat logs? by unrtst · · Score: 1

      Assuming that this protocol/service is has the features DrXym mentioned:

      Now imagine something like that which is federated, works over the internet, is secure and encrypted (such that nobody in the middle knows more than necessary to deliver between the sender and recipient) and you have what chat should be.

      ... then federation can and will take care of it.

      Want to have your chats backed up and shared across your clients with as little effort on your part as possible, all while retaining all the security and encryption?
      - pay for that service

      Want all of that, but don't want to pay?
      - host it yourself, or join a small group of people that are doing so

      Want to have all of that, but you don't want to pay, and you don't care if one provider can see your messages and serve you ads?
      - use a free ad-based service (you'll give them your private key so they can mine your data)

      Don't trust any service for log storage, even if they don't have your keys?
      - use the service without a chat log storage provider, and keep local logs if you like (which would also be encrypted with your own key)

      FWIW, all of this technically exists already: XMPP + OTR.
      Since it still hasn't taken over the world of chat, there's still an opportunity for a different protocol to be king. However, AFAICT, there's no way in hell any of these other chat clients/protocols/services will EVER unify the situation unless all the major players adopt an open system with all those features.

      Open Whisper Systems, Signal, Whatsapp, Facebook Messenger, and Google Allo all make use of the end-to-end encryption protocol, "Signal Protocol", which started as TextSecure and RedPhone. As such, it seems like there has been some unification around what protocol to use for end-to-end encryption.... just need the rest to fall into place.

  35. Pain for no gain. by J.+T.+MacLeod · · Score: 1

    So it's like Hangouts, but with the extra inconvenience of being tied to your mobile number instead of something easily memorized.

    And with the added pain of REQUIRING YOUR PHONE TO USE THE WEB VERSION.

    It's a pain and does nothing more of value than existing applications. Why does it even exist?

  36. Needs node.js/electron and nosql engine w/flat UI by Billly+Gates · · Score: 1

    Can't see it take off with all the new kewl millennial kids otherwise

  37. Not "web" compatible. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why even release something like this, which only works on Chrome? It seems utterly pointless and arrogant to call it "web compatible", when it's artificially not even compatible with other Blink-based browsers, uses upcoming non-even-close-to-standard-yet tech (and doesn't even have to), and took so damn long to make in spite of that.

    Google should just give up on this facade that they "care about the web" already. They're really no better than Microsoft was in the IE6 era anymore. From not making Hangouts web compatible after years to recently futzing with GMail and breaking its H2 support, to Google Fonts pushing to relax the OpenType standard instead of fixing their shitty fonts, to YouTube constantly breaking, I have to wonder whether they can even handle their own properties, let alone the web at large.