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Dilution of Whisky -- the Molecular Perspective (nature.com)

From a new published paper in Scientific Report by Bjorn C. G. Karlsson and Ran Friedman: Despite the growing knowledge of the nature of water-alcohol mixtures on a molecular level, much less is known on the interaction of water, alcohol and small solutes. In particular, the nature of the interaction between the solvent and taste-carrying molecules, such as guaiacol, is not known. To address this gap, we used MD simulations to study the distribution of guaiacol in water-alcohol mixtures of different concentrations. Our simulations revealed that guaiacol is present at the air-liquid interface at ethanol concentrations that correspond to the alcohol content of bottled or diluted whiskies. Because the drink is consumed at the interface first, our findings help to understand why adding water to whisky helps to enhance its taste. A molecular understanding of the nature of taste compounds in water-alcohol mixtures allows for optimizing the taste of alcoholic spirits. [...] Overall, there is a fine balance between diluting the whisky to taste and diluting the whisky to waste.

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  1. Doin' gods work son! by jediborg · · Score: 1

    Some of my relatives are 'whiskey snobs' and would make fun of me for diluting it (just slightly) with water for better taste. Now I can tell them I have science to back me up!

    1. Re:Doin' gods work son! by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 1

      Some of my relatives are 'whiskey snobs' and would make fun of me for diluting it (just slightly) with water for better taste. Now I can tell them I have science to back me up!

      Hmm... Expect mixed results. It seems many people aren't swayed by science and/or facts.

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    2. Re:Doin' gods work son! by taustin · · Score: 1

      Gourmet moose pee still comes out of the same end of the moose.

    3. Re:Doin' gods work son! by penandpaper · · Score: 1

      Expect mixed results.

      Pretty sure OP knows the results of mixing. :)

    4. Re:Doin' gods work son! by JonnyCalcutta · · Score: 1

      Not if its 'whiskey'. This only really applies to 'whisky'. Anyway, whenever I meet a whisk(e)y snob I mix in some coke (or Irn Bru which seems to annoy them more)

    5. Re:Doin' gods work son! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Overall, there is a fine balance between diluting the whisky to taste and diluting the whisky to waste.

      A splash of good water will open up a whiskey, much like allowing a wine to breathe. You can taste the subtle flavors, instead of just burning your tongue with alcohol. Too much water ruins it, just like airing a wine too long turns it to vinegar.

      If you like it, drink it the way you like it. If anyone complains about how you drink it -don't drink with them.

      "Whisky, invented by the Irish, perfected by the Scottish!"

    6. Re:Doin' gods work son! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Some of my relatives are 'whiskey snobs' and would make fun of me for diluting it (just slightly) with water for better taste. Now I can tell them I have science to back me up!

      Most of the "snobs" I know would tell you to taste first and then if necessary add a drop or two of water per ounce to "open" it up.

    7. Re:Doin' gods work son! by renegadesx · · Score: 1

      As a whisky snob, I have no problem adding water but it depends on the whisky, In my personal experience in some cases water brings out more flavour, and in some it kills it. When you go to a whisky tasting, taste it neat and then add a drop of water and compare it. Your mileage will vary.

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    8. Re: Doin' gods work son! by LQ · · Score: 1

      Sorry, but being of Scottish descent I can tell you there was always a wee jug of water on the bar to add a splash to your dram.

    9. Re:Doin' gods work son! by OrangeTide · · Score: 2

      Uh, whisky snobs always try their favorite whiskies at different dilutions.

      That said, the water that is already added when bottled is usually a good place to start. If it's cask strength, you can of course try the same whisky in many different ways.

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    10. Re:Doin' gods work son! by arth1 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Anyway, whenever I meet a whisk(e)y snob I mix in some coke (or Irn Bru which seems to annoy them more)

      Well, yeah, that's ruining two good beverages.

      The firm rule is that there are only two things you should add to whisky:
      Water, or more whisky.

    11. Re:Doin' gods work son! by arth1 · · Score: 1

      Whiskey is already diluted from the barrel to ship it at 80 proof.

      Whiskey might be, but this is about whisky.
      None of the whiskies I drink are less than 90 proof, and some are up to 120.

    12. Re:Doin' gods work son! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's an insulting comparison.

      Moose pee doesn't create addiction, brain damage, domestic abuse, or death by drunk drivers.

    13. Re:Doin' gods work son! by rtb61 · · Score: 0

      Alcohol is a toxin. The liver is specifically designed to get rid of it. Yes pour a toxin on your taste buds and they don't work so well, and all the other nonsense is just nonsense. Just like using MSG in order to stimulate the taste buds to taste more, when real flavours are missing, ahh, the bullshit taste of fake umami. Not the original of course, which was a Japanese thing, a balance of salty, sweet, bitter and sour to create savouriness, now just one bullshit chemical burning out your tastebuds and addicting you to need more, just like mothers milk (high levels of MSG), need to addict a child to consuming sustenance and the corporations keep it going because cheating children of pocket money is something that is celebrated by the rich and greedy. PR=B$ at work.

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    14. Re: Doin' gods work son! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Neither does responsible consumption but you have fun sitting in your tower

    15. Re: Doin' gods work son! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      You must be a lot of fun at parties.

    16. Re:Doin' gods work son! by dwye · · Score: 1

      I assume that they only drink cask-strength whiskey (~130 proof)? Otherwise, they really ARE snobs, rather than displaying better taste than most.

      Of course, real whiskey fans know about the effect of a small amount of water opening up additional notes. If they (your relatives) don't, well, that just proves something more.

    17. Re:Doin' gods work son! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      now just one bullshit chemical burning out your tastebuds ,

      Not just one chemical, as there are several different forms of glutimates that cause the same taste, and these are present naturally in things like seafood, meats, and cheeses. Knowing that some things work well together, like a touch of anchovy paste in beef stew, because of similar components has nothing to do with the FUD about MSG.

    18. Re: Doin' gods work son! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sorry, but being of Scottish descent I can tell you there was always a wee jug of water on the bar to add a splash to your dram.

      Sorry, but being Scottish, I can tell you that your wee jug was probably for diluting some of the more 'inferior' singles and blends in a misguided attempt at making them potable, some of which (IMHO) remain bloody undrinkable even when diluted to near homeopathic concentrations..(e.g. Grouse..).

      A decent Whisky requires no more added water, especially from 'local to drinker' sources(shudders at memories of people diluting single malts using chilled London tap water....) as it is already somewhere between 40-60% water anyhow.

      Each to their own though, if watering the stuff down works for you, go for it.

    19. Re:Doin' gods work son! by Anne+Thwacks · · Score: 1
      Moose pee doesn't create addiction, brain damage, domestic abuse, or death by drunk drivers.

      Citation required

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    20. Re: Doin' gods work son! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Depends on the kind of whiskey they are drinking.

    21. Re:Doin' gods work son! by KozmoStevnNaut · · Score: 1

      When you add a few drops, it's not really any significant dilution, but as the article says, it can have significant chemical effect. And besides, you're the one drinking it. If you want to dilute to 50/50, feel free to do so. Fuck the snobs.

      As my favorite whisky club's slogan goes, "leave no nose upturned".

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    22. Re:Doin' gods work son! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This.
      "How would you like your whisky?"
      "On the rocks with a little bit of water, please."
      "You are drinking this incorrectly!"
      "You are being a bartender/friend incorrectly!"

    23. Re:Doin' gods work son! by GLMDesigns · · Score: 1

      Your relatives may not be whiskey snobs. Most whiskey snobs I know recommend adding cool (not cold) water to your whiskey or bourbon to bring it down to 38% alcohol.

      Don't put ice as it will cool, hence hide the flavors.

      Use a glass that captures the aroma (like a red wine glass) or get a set of Glencairns so that you're able to savour the whiskey

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    24. Re:Doin' gods work son! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Coke into whisky/scotch? Heathen. Coke into bourbon I can sort of understand. Coke into Canadian whiskey, sure, something has to give it some flavor. But Scotch? Good lord. Ron Burgandy would kick your ass!

    25. Re:Doin' gods work son! by karbonforms · · Score: 1

      The same MSG that occurs naturally in tomatoes and parmesan etc? Idiot.

    26. Re:Doin' gods work son! by Joce640k · · Score: 1

      I find Red Bull a better mixer for bourbon.

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    27. Re:Doin' gods work son! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Some of my relatives are 'whiskey snobs' and would make fun of me for diluting it (just slightly) with water for better taste. Now I can tell them I have science to back me up!

      Hmm... Expect mixed results. It seems many people aren't swayed by science and/or facts.

      Hmmm,
      Science is it?
      Facts are they?
      Adding some more water to something which already contains up to 60% water alters its properties, eh?
      Homeopathy?, Magic? meh, who cares? just enjoy the whisky whatever way you prefer (though anyone who does things like putting Coke in 18 year old Highland Park deserves to be eaten alive by midgies, over several decades...).

    28. Re:Doin' gods work son! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Easy. Just tell them God made whiskey taste better mixed with water.

    29. Re:Doin' gods work son! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      yes, I think the person that said this should be the subject of a few decades of experience drinking various varieties of moose pee...

      That's the only way to know for sure.

    30. Re:Doin' gods work son! by taustin · · Score: 1

      The only way you could know that is from experience. Do you drink moose pee a lot?

    31. Re: Doin' gods work son! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Way to move the goalposts. Yes there are responsible people, that doesn't change the fact that alcohol interferes with ones ability to be responsible and causes all of the above. Fact.

  2. Slashdotters admittedly have large differences by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 4, Funny

    I am hoping, though, we can all come together and agree that:

    The dilution of whiskey is morally wrong.

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    1. Re:Slashdotters admittedly have large differences by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 5, Funny

      I am hoping, though, we can all come together and agree that:

      The dilution of whiskey is morally wrong.

      Against any dilution? Sounds like you're a member of the malt-right. :-)

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    2. Re:Slashdotters admittedly have large differences by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 1

      Well played, sir.

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    3. Re:Slashdotters admittedly have large differences by LynnwoodRooster · · Score: 1

      So you only drink still proof whiskey?

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    4. Re:Slashdotters admittedly have large differences by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The dissolution of the US Presidency is the real story, not ice cubes in whiskey. This all was known by whisky drinkers 50+ years ago if not much further back.

    5. Re:Slashdotters admittedly have large differences by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Cute & quick quip, everyone likes a purist. Especially when it comes to our favorite poisons :D

      But if you read the article, it says that splashing some H2O into the whisky actually enhances it's flavor, scent, and sharpness. It breaks through to the bottom and causes some characteristics of the whisky to rise to the top.

      So sure, if you consider introducing a small bit as 'diluting' than yeah the bottom-eighth of a glass may seem a wee thin. But you did enjoy 7/8ths of your sips at better quality than without the splash... so minor trade-off there.

    6. Re:Slashdotters admittedly have large differences by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Anything more than two drops of water per dram should be reported to the authorities as a hate crime.

    7. Re:Slashdotters admittedly have large differences by Errol+backfiring · · Score: 1

      So true. It is a waste of drinking water.

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    8. Re:Slashdotters admittedly have large differences by KozmoStevnNaut · · Score: 1

      I have a 65% ABV whisky you should try, then. It's a real fiery bitch of a burninator undiluted, but with some serious dilution, it becomes the most wonderful peaty campfire smoky dram I've ever had.

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    9. Re:Slashdotters admittedly have large differences by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Try a 125 Proof cask strength rye undiluted and get back to me. It is funny to me how the burn becomes a background to the flavor with only a few drops of water in a glass, because that shock-burn at 125 can get downright harsh.

    10. Re:Slashdotters admittedly have large differences by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes. The moral thing to do it pour it down the drain, because it tastes absolutely foul. All of it.

    11. Re:Slashdotters admittedly have large differences by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Exactly. Most people seem to be under the false impression that whiskey is distilled and comes out at 80-90 proof. No, the whiskey is already watered down for bottling. Any further water added is just to lower the ABV so that it's less harsh.

    12. Re:Slashdotters admittedly have large differences by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I couldn't care less about the dilution of whiskey.

      Whisky, now that's another matter entirely.

  3. How i imagine this started by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    "There must be a way to use some of this grant money on whisky..."

    1. Re:How i imagine this started by flaming+error · · Score: 1

      Or: "Hmm. What constituency is most likely to be loose with their money?"

    2. Re:How i imagine this started by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or: "Hmm. What constituency is most likely to be loose with their money?"

      Well that answers the question of if they were using Scotch.

  4. Whiskey was "just right" by reboot246 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Boss: How did like that bottle of whiskey I gave you for Christmas?
    Employee: It was just right.
    Boss: Just right? Is that all?
    Employee: Yep, if it had been any worse, I couldn't have drunk it and if it had been any better, you wouldn't have given it to me.

  5. Whisky != Whiskey by lophophore · · Score: 4, Informative

    The authors of the article don't understand that "whisky" (from Scotland) is not the same as "whiskey" (from anywhere else.)

    The discussion that the water opens the whisky up and makes the guaiacol more aromatic does not apply to whiskey that does not have a lot of this chemical in it, that is to say NOT SCOTCH.

    Adding water to Irish Whiskey, or good ole American Bourbon Whiskey, is not going to have the same effect. Adding a couple teaspoons of cool water to your delicious smoky single malt from Islay will make a noticeable difference and open op the "nose" of the whisky.

    True "whisky snobs" know the difference.

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    1. Re:Whisky != Whiskey by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > "whiskey" (from anywhere else.)
      Wrong! 'Whiskey' is from the USA or Ireland, 'whisky' is from anywhere else.

    2. Re:Whisky != Whiskey by rogoshen1 · · Score: 4, Funny

      just when you think audiophiles are the most insufferable cunts on the face of the planet...

    3. Re:Whisky != Whiskey by uncqual · · Score: 1

      IMHO, a couple Tsp is a bit much for the standard drink size. Although, most of my testing has been on popular (read, "well marketed and available almost everywhere") moderately priced Islays like Lagavulin or some of the smokier Highlands so my testing is not very broad based.

      However, I expect to continue to experiment aggressively until I figure out just the right amount of water to add -- it could take decades to perfect this, but I'm willing to make that sacrifice to help humanity.

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    4. Re:Whisky != Whiskey by taustin · · Score: 1

      True "whisky snobs" know the difference.

      You remind me of true audiophiles

    5. Re:Whisky != Whiskey by Sumus+Semper+Una · · Score: 3, Informative

      The authors of the article don't understand that "whisky" (from Scotland) is not the same as "whiskey" (from anywhere else.)

      Isn't that why Scotch exists as a word used to describe a specific kind of alcoholic beverage? Also, did you even read the article? Ok, this is Slashdot, that was a silly question to ask. Anyway, here's an excerpt from the introduction stating that they are well aware of the differences in guaiacol content:

      Guaiacol is a small and mostly hydrophobic molecule that is able to interact with polar solvents via hydrogen-bonding and polar-aromatic interactions. Higher concentrations of guaiacol have been found in Scottish whiskies than in American and Irish ones. The concentration of guaiacol was found by GC/MS to be 3.7–4.1mgL1, or about 3.2105M in two undisclosed Scottish whiskies5. It is likely that the concentration of guaiacol in Isley whiskies is even higher.

      And, more specifically, they point out in their conclusions that dilution with water is only helpful to cask-strength whiskey to bring out its flavor:

      Dilution of cask-strength whisky improves its taste by increasing the propensity of taste compounds at the liquid-air interface... ...It is therefore reasonable to assume that the taste of guaiacol (and other amphipathic, semi-volatile compounds) is less pronounced at high alcohol concentrations, which explains why dilution of cask-strength whiskies results in a change in the sensory effects of the whisky.

      So diluting some off-the-shelf Jack Daniel's likely won't enhance its whiskey flavor. But adding a little water to some Scotch or cask strength Maker's Mark will enhance it.

    6. Re:Whisky != Whiskey by SlaveToTheGrind · · Score: 2

      The authors of the article don't understand that "whisky" (from Scotland) is not the same as "whiskey" (from anywhere else.)

      The discussion that the water opens the whisky up and makes the guaiacol more aromatic does not apply to whiskey that does not have a lot of this chemical in it, that is to say NOT SCOTCH.

      Huh? The article's introduction specifically says that guaiacol "is much more common in Scottish whiskies than in American or Irish ones."

    7. Re:Whisky != Whiskey by lophophore · · Score: 2

      Yeah, I read the linked paper and a lot of the breathless press about it, too. Thanks for asking. The press really got it wrong, and maybe that's what twisted me up. These guys got it right: http://blogs.discovermagazine.... -- very few of the others did.

      The reason that there is so much guaiacol in whisky from Scotland has a whole lot to do with the way that they smoke the barley. Especially the Islay whiskys. They smoke the malted barley, then ferment it, then distill it, and even after being distilled twice, the whisky still smells smoky to the nose, and more so with a splash of water.

      Makers Mark is made from corn, and the only thing smoked is the inside of the barrel, which is charred. The article authors are not talking about high-proof bourbon. IMHO, you are just diluting that, which may not be a bad thing.

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    8. Re:Whisky != Whiskey by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      It is a difference in the Gaelic pronunciation.

      Scotch Gaelic uisge beatha vs Irish Gaelic uisce beatha. Both are "the breath of life" but the difference in pronunciation became a difference in spelling. Most of the world followed the Irish spelling.

      Now days we call Scottish whisky "Scotch", American whiskey "Bourbon" and Irish whiskey "Whiskey". To further muddy the waters there are Japanese whiskys (made in the Scottish style) and rye whiskeys.

    9. Re:Whisky != Whiskey by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      GAH! water of life... not breath. My brain has gone home for the day already.

    10. Re:Whisky != Whiskey by pz · · Score: 3, Informative

      Having been in and around both audiophiles and whisky aficionados, I can most certainly say that the latter are far less ... ah, annoying ... than the former. Whisky lovers, after all, like to drink. That alone eliminates most of the peccadillos.

      And, really, when it comes down to it, there are substantial differences between the various amber liquors. Just because something alcoholic is aged in wood does not mean it is like everything else that is.

      Also, importantly, the differences that audiophiles talk about are often minute and difficult to discern. The differences that whisky aficionados talk about are readily perceived by the ordinary palette.

      And while the audiophile realm is filled with snake oil salesmen who want nothing more than to separate you from your hard-earned wages, providing you with products of highly dubious value, whisky is largely --- and I do say this in the over-all sense, understanding that there are occasional exceptions --- value-based. The more you spend on a bottle, generally speaking, the better it will taste. By comparison, wire is largely wire no matter how expensive it is.

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    11. Re:Whisky != Whiskey by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Canadian Club Whisky. From Canada. Japan also calls it Whisky. Snob.

    12. Re:Whisky != Whiskey by zieroh · · Score: 1

      True "whisky snobs" know the difference.

      Speaking as an avid whisk(e)y drinker, I have long ago learned to spot other whisk(e)y enthusiasts. I have enjoyed a wide variety of the stuff with a wide variety of people. I think, then, that I can say with some authority that you're not a snob at all -- you're something so much more. I think the proper classification is "whisky douchebag".

      I know I'll get modded down for this, but I don't care. I've got a glass of the good stuff in one hand and karma in the bank.

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    13. Re:Whisky != Whiskey by zieroh · · Score: 1

      The differences that whisky aficionados talk about are readily perceived by the ordinary palette.

      And while the audiophile realm is filled with snake oil salesmen who want nothing more than to separate you from your hard-earned wages, providing you with products of highly dubious value, whisky is largely --- and I do say this in the over-all sense, understanding that there are occasional exceptions --- value-based. The more you spend on a bottle, generally speaking, the better it will taste.

      I largely agree with this, but I'll go ahead and provide one of the most egregious and notable exceptions that you alluded to: Pappy Van Winkle is surely the Pear Anjou speaker cable of the whiskey world. Perfectly acceptable bourbon, to be sure. But not worth anything near the going price.

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    14. Re:Whisky != Whiskey by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yup. In fact there are even some American whiskies that spell it properly. eg. Maker's Mark Bourbon.

      Really the only country that should be spelling it with an 'ey' is Ireland - since they actually changed the spelling to differentiate Irish Whiskey from all other whisky - but namely Scotch and other British libations. Pride of the green. Too bad that their best selling whiskies are really boring.

    15. Re:Whisky != Whiskey by rgmoore · · Score: 1

      I think you're missing the importance of this point:

      (and other amphipathic, semi-volatile compounds)

      The authors of the study looked at guaiacol specifically, but their intention is to use it as a typical example of a large class of similar compounds that are important in the flavor of more kinds of whiskey than just Scotch. This kind of thing- studying one compound as an example of an entire class- is common when it just isn't practical to study every member of a class. They clearly can't study every flavor molecule in a mixture as complex as whiskey, so they pick one that's typical and extrapolate the results to similar molecules. Studying an intractably complex system by considering a simpler model is an essential part of how real science works.

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    16. Re:Whisky != Whiskey by lars5 · · Score: 1

      You are not the Kwisatz Haderach.

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    17. Re:Whisky != Whiskey by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Canadian Club Whisky. From Canada. Japan also calls it Whisky. Snob.

      Not surprising, as

      a. Canada was/is full of Scots who'd escaped.. (so, there's no excuse for 'Canadian Club', as they should know better.)
      b. Japan: Masataka Taketsuru learned his trade in Scotland, and married a Scot.

  6. WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE! by Thud457 · · Score: 1

    "guaiacol"?
    GUACAMOLE ALCOHOL?! Maybe science has gone too far...

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  7. Great one-liner. by martinX · · Score: 1

    "Overall, there is a fine balance between diluting the whisky to taste and diluting the whisky to waste."

    I bet it was high-fives all around the room when someone came up with that one. At the very least, it makes a great heading for the conference poster/first PowerPoint slide.

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  8. What costs more? by bwd777 · · Score: 1

    What costs more? The article or the whisky?

  9. As an aspiring Whiskey connoisseur... by TomR+teh+Pirate · · Score: 1

    I'm very interested in this work. I have as a rule tried to stay away from ice and even water as I didn't want to dilute the product for its own sake. But with science indicating that the flavors of the whiskey are unlocked, my favorite pastime gets a new technique!

    1. Re:As an aspiring Whiskey connoisseur... by KozmoStevnNaut · · Score: 1

      You have to experiment to find the right amount of water, especially with cask strength malts. I have some at 65% that are undrinkable when undiluted, and I have others around ~63% that are just deceptively smooth and hardly need more than a single drop or two to open up beautifully.

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  10. Further application of research by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Is this why farts smell worse in the shower?

  11. Cask strength -v- Bottle strength by seoras · · Score: 3, Informative

    As lophophore correctly points out this only applies to Scottish Whisky, but I'd go further by adding that it only applies to cask strength Whisky not your off-the-shelf bottle strength (~40%) which has already been watered to taste.

    I got my education in Whisky in the early 90's living in Edinburgh where there was a private club in Leith called the Scotch Malt Whisky Society. 4 times a years the owners would tour the distilleries sampling casks and purchasing the ones they liked best which they then bottled and sold in the club rooms directly from the cask (hence cask strength). The distilleries allowed them to do this on the condition they numbered the bottles protecting the anonymity of each distillery which has it's own unique (blended) flavour.
    They'd organised guided tastings which I went to a number of. You'd get 3 Whisky's and be told to taste a tiny amount un-watered and then slowly add water to taste until you felt the flavours had come out. The results are dramatic and the taste of that Whisky is unlike anything you've ever tried or known about Whisky.
    They've since been bought out by a large company and are now a global franchise. If you can find one near you then I recommend trying them out.

    If you can't find them near by the I'd recommend by favourite Whisky Lagavulin.
    It comes as a standard 16 year old which is regular strength and also as a 12 year old cask strength. I always go for the cask strength one.
    Whisky's don't improve much after 12 years.

    Final tip. Try to use distilled water to dilute. As clean and neutral as you can get.

    1. Re:Cask strength -v- Bottle strength by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      The only thing I'd add to this is "taste a tiny amount un-watered" means a truly small amount - any significant quantity of cask-strength will numb your taste buds.

    2. Re:Cask strength -v- Bottle strength by KozmoStevnNaut · · Score: 1

      Whisky's don't improve much after 12 years.

      I have a beautiful 20yo SMWS Laphroig on my shelf that very much disagrees with that idea :-)

      --
      Eat the rich.
    3. Re:Cask strength -v- Bottle strength by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have to strongly disagree. My cask strength single barrel whiskys are all 25+ years and it's a big difference to 1x years old. But the good thing about whisky is, everybody has their own taste and preferences.

    4. Re: Cask strength -v- Bottle strength by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Reverse-osmosis filtering (e.g. Aquafina) is the way to go for this whisky snob.

  12. That's like killing the Decaf inventor! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    He's dead, Jim*

    *Jim (Beam)

  13. implications for naturopathy? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    yes yes adding a drop of (distilled? at least clean) water "opens up" the aromatics in a whisky
    that's why there's those little brass taps on the counter
    but what are the implications of this for the oft-ridiculed dilution of tinctures in naturopathy?

  14. "Whiskey" experiment after watching Boardwalk Emp. by Maxo-Texas · · Score: 1

    So I was watching boardwalk empire and saw that basically they took grain alcohol (you may know it as everclear) and mixed ingrediants like... ...

    vanilla and water for rum.
    water and a little sugar for vodka.
    liquid smoke, amber coloring for whiskey.

    So I did some experimenting (having had a couple dozen whiskeys including the expensive stuff).

    It wasn't whiskey- but if you hadn't had whiskey for a few years, it was sorta in the neighborhood. I'm wondering if filtering the water thru some peat moss and then boiling it and filtering it thru a coffee filter would be more whiskey like.

    Bonus tip- most top shelf vodka has up to 2% sugar added. You can't taste it but it smooths it out.

    I've also done the brita thing and the activated charcoal thing for bottom shelf spirits. They don't produce top shelf products but they do improve them- and in mixed drinks (many created to hid the flavor of bad booze), they are okay.

    Personally, The Balvenie is the one I like best for the price followed by The Singleton. The various Glen 18's are all pretty nice but $$$ (Glenfiddich) and more for sipping for taste than drinking.

    --
    She was like chocolate when she drank... semi-sweet at first and then increasingly bitter.
  15. Wussky by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See title for what you get when you add water

  16. Agreed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    just when you think audiophiles are the most insufferable cunts on the face of the planet...

    Not really. From my experience, Slashdotters aren't letting go of that title any time soon.