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Microsoft Outlines the Upgrade Procedures For Xbox One X (arstechnica.com)
An anonymous reader quotes a report from Ars Technica: The easiest way to get all your games to the new system, as outlined by Microsoft Vice President Mike Ybarra, will be to just put them on an external USB hard drive and then plug that drive into the new console. "All your games are ready to play" immediately after this external hard drive move, he said, and user-specific settings can also be copied via external hard drive in the same way. If you don't have an external drive handy, "we're going to let you copy games and apps off your home network instead of having to manually move them or redownload them off the Internet," Ybarra said. It's unclear right now if Microsoft will mirror the PS4 Pro and allow this kind of system-to-system transfer using an Ethernet cable plugged directly into both consoles. For those who want to see as many pixels as possible as quickly as possible when they get their Xbox One X, Ybarra says you'll be able to download 4K updates for supported games before the Xbox One X is even available, then use those updates immediately after the system transfer. Microsoft also released a list of 118 current and upcoming games that will be optimized for the Xbox One X via updates, a big increase from the few dozens announced back at E3.
There are two x's in Xbox.
People are buying game consoles from Microsoft? The same Microsoft that's spying on everyone, pushing ads on your paid-for-but-not-really-yours computer operating system that tried to push a fucking touch interface down our throats?
Anyone else notice that they made it such that it just spells XBOX when you shorten it?
What is that, 19 in pig Latin numerals?
-Dave
Who bothers with a console? I hit steam, buy a PC game for $19.99. If I want a game on the console, I am paying $79.99 for the physical media ($79.98 if I buy it used), then have to pay another C-note just for DLC, so I have a chance of actually winning, and so the side quests are present, making the game make sense. Of course, since the saves are locked to the console, I'm hosed, where with the PC, I can do a game restore and be OK.
If you want to be an end user, who does what he/she is told, and opens the wallet when EA or Ubisoft demands more cash for the same tired old IP that hasn't changed since the early 2000s, by all means... buy a console. If you like actual gaming, PC is where it is at.
And if you want to play games with any real level of quality, you'll be shelling out for a PC -- which you skipped fully over there in your inept rant. You'll also be paying for an OS, another 100 or two there.
Also, I buy games at 59.99 -- not your 79.99, so I'm already 20 ahead of your quote. You don't shell out 100.00 for DLC unless you're an idiot. Depending on how fast you play them, you can trade them back in for at least 50% of their value -- so, now I'm down to like 25-30 worth of expense....
If you're going to bring the penis measuring BS, try to know WTF you're talking about.
Why would it be any different than the process from moving from an Xbox One to an Xbox One S?
Kind of old news by now how to do this, and already pops up on a new console with instructions on moving from another system...
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I can't remember the last time I paid $80 for a console game. You can either: 1) wait for the game to get cheaper or 2) pre-order games during E3 and get some for 20% off, or some bigger named titles for $50. This E3 I pre-ordered Battlefront 2 and a few others for $50 (CAD) from Amazon. In Canada new PC games are now priced the same as the console versions for the most part.
I game on both PC and consoles and while PCs do have some advantages (run at higher framesrates/res, customization, k/b and mouse), consoles have some niceties as well (sit on the couch, play games with friends not on PC, no Windows 10 headaches).
Nintendo is the only company AFAIK that locks saves to their consoles, Sony and Microsoft have had cloud saves available since the 360/PS3 gen. I'm using 360 saves on my Xbox One for backwards compatible games.
Two smart moves:
1. Make it easy for your customers to upgrade.
2. Don't bog down your gaming network as 20M users all try to re-download 5TB worth of games for their new system.
I own every system since the Atari 2600, but I have been primarily using my PS4 this generation, while I used my 360 primarily last generation. Microsoft made some huge miscalculations with the Xbone and I held off buying it for several years, and since it doesn't have many exclusives, it is mainly a pass through and 360 game player. Hopefully this is more indication of putting the customer first and giving gamers what gamers want first and foremost.
Sony could learn a thing or two in this regard, as well as backwards comparability so that the customer doesn't feel ripped off buying the same game twice...
If you disagree, please post your argument. (-1, Overrated) isn't your personal censorship tool for views you don't like
Sony locks certain saves to the console too. Or at least they did in the PS3 days. Annoying.
On the PS3, Sony didn't have a mandate - they left it up to the developer/publisher.
"Our opponent is an alien starship packed with atomic bombs. We have a protractor."
The 360 used a transfer cable, 3DS lets you just copy content between SD cards when you move to a new system, PS3 and PS4 let you use a USB drive to transfer contents to a new system.
Things have been this way for about 10+ years now, nothing new
On the other hand on XboxOneX launch day the servers are guaranteed to go down as gamers download all the patches and assets to update their games for the platform!
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Wii U was indeed a very stupid mis-step, as it sounded too much like the Wii. This isn't the same thing though, as the Xbox One X is an upgraded Xbox One, not a compatibility-breaking whole new console.
I don't think MS are really targeting it the way you suggest - the price-point makes it clear it's not 'for everyone', it's for people into high-end tech. Their marketing has reinforced this explicitly.
Who bothers with a console?
I'm going to take it that either you live in Australia or some country without PSN access. I'm also going to assume that you're a PC Master Race sort of guy.
I hit steam, buy a PC game for $19.99.
I hit PSN, buy a PSwhatever game for $19.99
I am paying $79.99 for the physical media
Australia? Bandwidth caps and slow internet? Because here in the US new "AAA" PS4 games cost $59.99, unless they're some kind of "Deluxe edition". Also All games are available in digital form, in fact, some games are ONLY available digitally and don't have retail releases.
Of course, since the saves are locked to the console, I'm hosed, where with the PC, I can do a game restore and be OK.
I don't know where you got that idea because that is NOT the case in the Playstation ecosystem. There's cloud saves and you can still physically back them up on top of that, which I just did to USB on the PS3 and PS4. They will be saved at: /PS3/SAVEDATA/game-id-number-foo (for example the PS3 Skyrim option save is in BLUS-30778-OPTION- and /PS4/SAVEDATA/ps4-id-number/game-id-number (PS4 skyrim digital saves are in the CUSA05333 folder)
And to the PC with the Vita via QCMA. where they will be in ~/PS Vita/APP/vita-id-number/game-id/savedata
opens the wallet when EA or Ubisoft demands more cash
Really, and there aren't EA or Ubisoft games on PC?
http://store.steampowered.com/...
for the same tired old IP that hasn't changed since the early 2000s,
Considering the top games being played on Steam right now are:
Dota 2 (MOBA)
PLAYERUNKNOWN'S BATTLEGROUNDS (yet another shooter)
Counter-Strike: Global Offensive (yet another shooter)
H1Z1: King of the Kill (shooter)
Grand Theft Auto V
Team Fortress 2 (shooter)
Football Manager 2017 yearly sports game
PAYDAY 2 (co-op shooter)
Path of Exile (diablo clone)
Warframe (co-op mmo shooter)
You really think PC gamers are some kind of "cerebral master race"? They're no different from the Madden addled Xboxers.
If you like actual gaming, PC is where it is
That's silly, gaming is on any platform you want to do it on. PC, console, mobile-console, phone, tablet, whatever.
I've not seen this behavior with any games I own, which games?
you know, with steam's big picture mode + xbox 360 controller, you really do get the best of both worlds.
Or play the games that come free with Xbox Live Gold.
Sorry, I have PS+ and since the PS4 came out, Sony's been offering lamer and lamer games on PS+. (PS+ games used to be good and people would get excited every month to see what games were new. Now it's more of a "meh").
At least Microsoft's offering is decent still (they still need to compete, and while Sony's resting on its laurels faking in PS4 cash, Microsoft's being the underdog and actually competing again). Even the 360 games are decent (and unlike the PS4, Microsoft ensures the free 360 games also play on Xbone).
Microsoft was resting on their laurels for the Xbox360, but since their Xbone's doing not as well (understatement), Microsoft's been trying to claw back some userbase. It is really annoying, because Sony and Microsoft do well competing, but it's more of a "if I'm winning, I'm going to just coast".
Can't even remember. I just knew it was a potential issue and decided to avoid the whole mess when I first got my PS3 by adding in a larger hard drive on day 1.
As HAKdragon mentioned, it was up to developers to lock the saves or not. I believe when PS+ came about the issue was "resolved" because you could backup your saves to Sony's servers to get around the lock. Of course, that assumes you are paying the monthly subscription.