Slashdot Mirror
People Start Hating Their Jobs at Age 35, Study Says (bloomberg.com)
Older workers tend to be more unhappy in their jobs than their younger colleagues, according to a survey of more than 2,000 U.K. employees by human resource firm Robert Half U.K. One in six British workers over age 35 said they were unhappy -- more than double the number for those under 35. Nearly a third of people over 55 said they didn't feel appreciated, while 16 percent said they didn't have friends at work. From a report: There's the stress of being in a high-ranking position -- or the disappointment of not making it far enough up the career ladder. True, salaries are higher, but life starts to get more expensive. "Work-life balance" starts to mean taking care of children, rather than just personal stress management. "There comes a time when either you haven't achieved success, work has burned you out, or lived experience tells you family is more important," said Cary Cooper, a workplace researcher at Manchester Business School. "You ask yourself: 'What am I doing this for?'"
It's about 22
As people age and have a lot more responsibility and less flexibility in their social, mental, and emotional lives, they start enjoying work a lot less and start treating it as more of an obligation! How much did Robert Half spend on this?
Software development is a fun hobby but a shitty career.
If you aren't in management then you start to get dumped on around 35. Just look at who is hired after 40 with a good resume and lots of experience vs a ok resume and little experience at 25. Perhaps if management, in general, didn't crap all over thier employees this wouldn't be nearly as pronounced.
I was transitioning from being a lead video game tester to an IT Support technician when I was 35. While I enjoyed being a video game tester for six years, it was a dead end job with few opportunities for promotion. I'm quite happy with cleaning out IT closets for the last 13 years.
"Oh yeah, I have bills to pay, and they pay me to do this."
If you sincerely love your job and love coming to work each day, you are one of the lucky ones. I'm pretty neutral on my job, so I consider myself pretty lucky.
You're mostly out of your youth/party phase, taking on more responsibilities (mortgage, kids, masters) but way too fucking far from retirement to see the point of it all. so you are stuck at the bottom of an inverse bell curve.
I started thinking this way during high school English class ... but then again, I always have been ahead of he curve!
This is pretty much spot on for me. I wouldn't say I ever truly enjoyed work, but until around 35 I didn't feel like jumping off the roof everyday. Now I can't see anything but the pointless futility in it or any work for that matter. But, I'm a debt slave so like most others I suck it up and trudge onward towards the sweet cold embrace of the grave.
I hate all these motivational speech crap.
As I hate all the HR crap that say other things besides money motivate workers.
If that's true, try getting people to work for free for you.
People work to earn money and pay bills and pursue their hobbies. Period.
Unless you're someone like Steve Jobs, who need to motivate the shit out of people to make him richer.
When you are young and starting out, you don't know all your good ideas will be squashed, or stolen.
When you are older, you have experience and know what's going to happen.
So rise up, all ye lost ones, as one, we'll claw the clouds.
"There comes a time when either you haven't achieved success, work has burned you out, or lived experience tells you family is more important,"
That is if you or those close to you aren't divorced or about to.
Look, there's a fundamental problem with how we in the west handle matters. The [senseless] need to "achieve" burns many out. When coupled with debt, things go south pretty fast.
Between 25 and 35 the world is your oyster and the sky is the limit. From 35 to 45 fast living is catching up with the demands of family, you may have teenagers, and possibly overspent your credit cards. The mortgage on the house is feeling heavy. From 45 to 55 you settle into reality and just plough on, or reinvent yourself with a career change. From 55 to 65, your planning your exit strategy.
Are these the same type of people who get stockholm syndrome working for shitty people and under horrible policies?
The people you work with and workplace culture have a lot to do with happiness, I've convinced my wife and other people in my family to keep looking for something better even though they were making enough to be comfortable, simply because they were unhappy at work. Most have found something with equal or better pay and much nicer bosses/coworkers, and it made all the difference in their lives. No longer coming home feeling like shit and ready for a drink, too anxious to sleep well at night, etc.
Don't settle, if you're not happy then keep looking.
Twinstiq, game news
Now that that is no longer true, I was working good IT NOC positions, But made a better life buying and selling online.
I'm 57, still designing software. Didn't enjoy my brief foray into management, and I'm much more relaxed now that I've ditched ambition. I have a good life, interesting work, enough time and money to enjoy my home and relationship. YMMV
So non-workers can get government checks and a hundred free government services that I'll never benefit from myself.
Also so the 7 counties around Washington DC can be in the top 10 or 15 wealthiest areas in the US.
Well, really... I think people just start to get bored by that time. They were really excited to get their job 10(+ or -) years ago, and now they're thinking, "is this really it? Come in every day and do the same thing every day for the rest of my life?"
I would bet people who (willingly) change jobs every so often are lot happier, and I would guess that if your job has a variety of things to do so that you're never doing the same thing for a very long time, you might be happier. I also think if you get to see the results of your work - the non-financial payday resulting from your work, something you can be proud of, then you might be happier.
Stupid sexy Flanders.
I burned out at 27 and basically never again managed to hold onto a job. Now, I'm 39 and I no longer even can get a job because the government refused me the required paperwork*, so no dole either. My savings are finally giving out so my homework for this month is mapping out suitable bridges and soup kitchens.
You, on the other hand, still have options. Like going for a secondary career in lawn mowing or something.
* This is my country of birth, supposedly full citizen, except that they "can't find me in their systems" so no government ID and over here, that means no rights whatsoever, including no right to work or unemployment benefits. In fact, if I ever get accosted by a "relevant authority", it's off to jail for me, because it's somehow my fault that they refused to even accept the request for an ID renewal. On another note, my teeth are falling out of my mouth but I can't have them fixed either because that also requires a valid government ID, for a complex but mostly fantastically stupid reason. Yay bureaucrats. I want a new country of birth, this one's broken.
Come to Europe and enjoy ~40h weeks and 25-30 working days off each year.
But when I got asked a couple of times to turn fast database queries in to slower computer code so people understand what's going on I got a little grumpy with my job. Even more so since I put effort in to documenting things in detail.
I'm over 55, but not yet 65. Believe me, for most software developers my age, planning your exit strategy is a nice euphemism for hoping you get to leave on your own terms and not get sacked with little-to-no-chance you'll find another job.
It's not you, it's them. You have blinded yourself to a pattern of corporate decay because it came about so gradually. People used to celebrate your achievements, have fun office parties and offsites, pay attention to your needs as a human being. And now it takes a year to order a new laptop and your boss shoots absentee e-mails asking you to attend a cross-timezone phone call at 10pm right?
You will feel so much better when you move to a place that doesn't suck. In the meantime, all your experience is worth a fat pay raise, even a cross-ladder promotion.
This is kinda curious, cos I've hated pretty much every job I've had (at least once the first year honeymoon-period has been up), UNTIL I turned 35. Or 37 actually, but who's counting. By that time I'd had many different jobs that each sucked in different ways, so I was able to ask the right questions at interviews to establish, whether the workplace, the boss and the role was for me. My own vetting just got a lot better = increased job satisfaction.
Then again, I'm not shooting for management, so that might be why I'm not getting disenchanted with the whole thing. Would I prefer being independently wealthy and not employed per se? Sure. But really who wouldn't.
Now!
People in the work force for 20 years tend to have figured out a significant portion the mistakes by incompetent managers / co-workers wasting money and catering to petty egos and every trick in the book to pay you less.
Uplink Hosting - Web/email at an affordable price with high performance - https://uplinkhosting.ca/link.php?id=3
I'm in my 50s and I never have hated the work to be done: I'm lucky enough to be in an industry with near-constant change in technology, and have carved out positions for myself where I'm nearly indispensible, and become the expert. (Yes, I'm being vague)
That's obviously not easy for anyone to do, but it's been very satisfying for me.
On the other hand, I've hated my employers at times: companies that don't support their employees, don't enable them to do what's best for the customers or the company, and in one case, kept me hanging by golden handcuffs for most of a year with almost no work to do.
Design for Use, not Construction!
I hated my job at 17 and I held the hate for 40 years until I retired at 57.
by then you're desperately trying to save money for the kid's college while trying to make car/mortgage payments; meaning just about anything you actually want to do yourself goes out the window and you spend the next 10 years living like a pauper constantly worried about money. Yeah, there's a few people (maybe 10% of the population) that avoid that but for the majority, especially today, you're staring down a miserable end of your existence.
Hi! I make Firefox Plug-ins. Check 'em out @ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/youtube-mp3-podcaster/
and 55-65 jail / prison as your doctor (usa only) needs to be planned for as well.
it's not fast living. The cost of living (Healthcare, housing, transportation, food, and above all education) has rapidly outpaced earnings. Massive productivity increases mean less demand for wages (I've read that if minimum wage kept pace with productivity it'd be $23/hr). Rampant outsourcing and 'insourcing' (e.g. work visas) compound the problem.
Folks aren't living outside their means, they're losing ground. Rapidly. That's why you're seeing crap like what happened in Charlottesville. Folks don't know what to do.
Hi! I make Firefox Plug-ins. Check 'em out @ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/youtube-mp3-podcaster/
People keep statistically recording nebulous " facts" about feelings. There is always one feeling: "mixed".
Something tells me they do not had this answer in the list of multiple choices
I do not believe in karma. "Funny"=-6. Do good and forbid evil. Yours, Oft-Offtopic Flamebaiting Troll.
I didn't wise up about work until I reached my early 40s, so I am a bit of late bloomer. Until then I previously held a series of post-college crap jobs until I landed my first (and only) "real job" when I was 33. For the first few years I was enthusiastic and truly enjoyed the work. But enthusiasm slowly turned to ambivalence which then became disillusionment and finally active disengagement. I became the living embodiment of Wally, Dilbert's slacker co-worker, as I no longer gave a shit about the company and the job. Ultimately, I got laid off along with several others in my department and now I'm enjoying a phat severance package as well as making some money from my dividend investment portfolio.
My point is this: Don't work for the sake of working. You can always make more money but you can't make more time. Early retirement should be your overarching goal. It can be done, as many people have proven it. Just research FIRE (Financially Independent Retired Early) and your eyes will be opened to what's possible. When you no longer *need* to work and are in a position to do the work you *want* to do, the world becomes a lot more brighter.
That's what you do when the Carousel of the Mind is at hand. You change perspective on life.
Never hated my career. Never felt I couldn't 'take that risk'. Always had plenty of outside interests I devoted time to. Simply can't relate.
Were the findings skewed? Keep in mind Robert Half makes their living in job placement. If people don't want to change jobs, they don't have income.
I'm not people!
As people age, they tend to collect responsibilities outside of work. That's (IMO) what makes people hate their jobs more -- it's stress, and the feeling of being trapped no matter what path you choose:
- Places to live where technology professionals congregate are too expensive for most families to survive on a single income. This means both parents work, adding to family stress, as well as having a large amount of monthly expenses even if you aren't spending way above your means.
- My wife and I are constantly trying to balance our jobs and our family life. Some people don't give a crap or just give up trying, but actually caring adds a lot of stress onto your plate as you try to juggle different priorities.
- Around 35, if you haven't been saving for retirement, you should be feeling the Grim Reaper tapping you on the shoulder inviting you to a future of living on Social Security alone and eating Spam...because it's almost too late to start unless you get a really good run of stock market luck. More stress.
- If you have kids, saving for college (should be) a priority too...stress.
- As you age, unless you've stagnated for a decade or more, you're probably in a more responsible role, and less shielded from typical corporate political nastiness. You get to see how the sausage is made...and in my personal experience that's a contributor to stress too.
- Because you have all these responsibilities eating away at you, you're often less likely to just rage-quit and go find somewhere else to work unless you're really well-off...hence the feeling of being trapped.
And, it doesn't matter what career path you've chosen either:
- If you're in management, and you're not 100% suited for the job, I can totally see why people would hate their jobs. You deal with so much, and companies are always looking to "delayer," so the key is to scramble up the middle management layer as quick as possible.
- If you've chosen to remain technical (like me,) there are _so many_ pressures. Outsourcing. Offshoring. A constant deluge of new shiny things to learn if you want to stay useful. MBAs waiting around every corner to question why you're being paid so much in their eyes. Balancing home life with having to stay current. Staying productive enough to keep up with the 24 year olds who don't know enough to not work 100 hour weeks for free. You name it -- we techies pay a heavy price to keep using our brains for work.
- If you've chosen something like a civil service job, then that "trapped" feeling probably sets in early. I know lots of people who work for the state university system and in state government -- getting a bad boss in a CS position who will never be fired and having to stay in a very similar position so you're never fired must be confining, and people have confirmed this. The only cold comfort is that your retirement and usually your job is secure, so that's one less degree of stress.
The take-away is that the grass isn't greener in most cases - life is just more difficult as responsibilities get layered on top.
"It takes 1 in 6 sheeple approximately 23 years after puberty to realize they are being farmed"
The other 5 take longer... shocking.
captcha: ballyhoo
Anyone who doesn't know this already has never had co-workers over 35.
Drew Carey put it best:
"Oh, you hate your job? Why didn't you say so? You know there's a support group for that... it's called EVERYBODY."
"They meet at the bar!"
"Slow down, Cowboy! It has been 3 years, 7 months and 26 days since you last successfully posted a comment."
I would bet people who (willingly) change jobs every so often are lot happier,
Not so sure about this, because even if you're changing jobs you're probably doing roughly the same things for a different company. Simply because if you have 10+ years experience you're not very likely to start over in a junior position doing something completely different. As long as it's not becoming a lock-in where that employer and that job is the only one you'll get I don't see a problem staying if you have no major complaints. Though I know one COBOL programmer who now issues parking tickets, having only obsolete skills is not the best way to finish your career.
Live today, because you never know what tomorrow brings
Family? What family? I'm just over 40 and I'm finally feeling like a success both personally and professionally. I have pursued my interests, have developed my technical skills and have invested in my future. The only problem is that I have spent all of my time working on improving myself and almost no time on relationships with the opposite sex.
Now I'm faced with potentially having no heir to all the wealth I will have accumulated. I never imagined it would be as difficult to meet people at my age as it is; I guess it was a bit foolish to have expected the college life to last forever.
There are still COBOL jobs out there, but in many cases you have to move for them. If your friend doesn't want to move, or isn't all that great at COBOL, or doesn't want to learn anything new...then yeah, I guess parking tickets is the alternative.
We need a survey to identify if the survey is stupid like this one.
Losers start hating their job at 35.
The rest of us are enjoying what we do.
Oh, and we have cool parties that don't cost much and aren't as boring as yours.
Now, go take a shower. That might make you more sociable.
-- Tigger warning: This post may contain tiggers! --
Due to age discrimination, people tend to get laid off at age 35 a lot more than when they were younger.
Until then, their salaries were rising, then they stop growing and start going down. All while living expenses (like health insurance and health care) - are going up.
So, less money, more expenses, and you're expecting people to be joyful at work?
"Nearly a third of people over 55 said they didn't feel appreciated, while 16 percent said they didn't have friends at work."
Why you don't say? it is because they aren't appreciated, their employer is scheming on how to eliminate thie older employee. The 16% without friends at work used to have friends at work but they were laid off when their jobs were shipped to children in Bangladesh, thus throwing their debt laden lives in turmoil.
Yep. When I was younger I was told the old saying "Find a job you love and you'll never work a day in your life.".
Now that I've gotten older, when young people ask me for advice I always say: "No matter what you love, if you have to do it every day for a living you'll learn to hate it. Pick something that pays well and if you can avoid it, don't turn a beloved hobby into a chore.".
"People who think they know everything are very annoying to those of us who do."-Mark Twain
I'm ahead of the curve. I've hated my job starting at age 20. I must be throwing the averages of a bit, meaning there are plebeian who are in their 50's and still love their jobs.
“Common sense is not so common.” — Voltaire
American corporations have slashed benefits...
- Healthcare now costs us a few hundred a month, plus thousands in co-pays and deductibles.
- Vacation/Personal Time, many of us are in our 40's and find ourselves with 2 weeks of vacation. We have less vacation, personal, and sick time today then we did when we were 20. Difference is, now most of our times goes to medical appointments.
- We don't have enough time to address medical needs, so we work with ailments delaying treatment by months or years.
- Management has grown inflexible again, kind of like the 1960's except without the great benefits and pension plans.
- We're underpaid. But what can we do about it, they will just import more H1B Visa holders.
Suddenly, you're working and commuting 40-60 hours a week to live in a mobile home paycheck to paycheck while bill collectors bombard you. All your labor is so you can have your kids a measly 4 days a month. Your health declines, your quality of life declines, and you realize you are a slave to your employer, ex, and government.
My dad put it this way when I asked him why he didn't make a job of building furniture (which he loved to do):
"If you make your hobby your job, you won't have a hobby."
Aah, change is good. -- Rafiki
Yeah, but it ain't easy. -- Simba
http://taskandpurpose.com/mili...
leadership positions take people away from doing the work. And people who are good doing the hands on work make for poor leaders. Also you have good leaders who need people under them who know about the work.
A good leadership person can mess things up by trying to apply things that work for one type work to an different type of work or have an very different view on estimates or even get an projet to an basic working level vs having one that can scale and work as it needs to work.
Forget adulting. What you need to be concerned with is lifing. All throughout our lives, we life. Day in, day out, a human being's time on this planet is primarily due to lifing. Whether you hate your job or not, adulting is just one aspect of lifing. In the end, we all life the life we choose for ourselves, so make it count.
It might still come, but after 8 years of working fulltime in a developer position I still don't agree. ...
Programming is such a wide field, what I do at work has nothing to do with what I do as a hobby, even though it's all "programming" (well, admittedly I don't do that much of it as a hobby as between work and other hobbies and the usual freetime activities there's not much left, but I still really enjoy it when I can).
Though to a degree I found the programming part always somewhat of a chore. The fun part is coming up with creative solutions, and those kind of by definition aren't the same twice. And those can be solutions to the problem the program is meant to solve, solutions to how to express what you want simpler or more readable in code, solutions how to make your code smaller, faster, more robust, more secure,
The world isn't short of interesting problems to solve, you just need to have the time and energy left over to address them after work, which can become the real problem quite quickly.
I'm 50, and I agree with you, but it helps that 75% of my job is stuff other than programming, and despite working for a large company, my work is seasonal (related to sports), so it's always changing.
Stupid sexy Flanders.
... by that time, you have most likely developed some competence, and you can see the vast array of morons and fakers that surround you. You're confronted with a choice: Scream at them until they do the right thing, or just let things fall to shit. Either choice pays the same, so to shit things will go.
Learned this the hard way myself. No kids in my case, but ex wanted our entire net worth, and got most of it (or at least prevented me from getting it).
This will really change the way you think about your bullshit job.
And people who are good doing the hands on work make for poor leaders.
I've never seen a good leader who wasn't also a good worker. I don't believe such a beast exists. I've seen people who can fool you 50% of the time into thinking they are, but that's the best I've seen. To manage a job, you should understand the job and the easiest way to do that is to actually do the job.
"Those that start by burning books, will end by burning men."
but nobody's giving them any answers. For all I've heard from the last few weeks about Hate this and Racism that I've heard almost nothing that addresses why these people felt they had to turn to Nazism and the KKK. I'm guessing the media at large isn't allowed to talk about economic issues, especially given that they're owned by billionaires that benefit from the working class's worsening situation.
There's alternative media on Youtube. Look for the videos pushing Bernie Sanders and the like.
Hi! I make Firefox Plug-ins. Check 'em out @ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/youtube-mp3-podcaster/
http://www.gocomics.com/calvinandhobbes/1993/01/25
"Verbing weirds language" - January 1993. Sorry but the Millenials parents are who taught them to confuse nouns with verbs ... "I learned it by watching you!"
I turned 40 this year. I've been doing the "responsible" things for some time as I have 17 to 19 year-old kids, and own my third home now. The wife and I joke (or long) for the day when we can buy an RV and go full-time RVing. Not sure that we really want to do that, but it looks tempting. It's that time of life when huge bills are mounting (multiple kids need all wisdom teeth pulled? College of course. Major appliance dies. You name it.).
Some days are good, even great, when I get to do something I enjoy or "conquer" a problem. Some days suck - like when I'm doing boring reports or crap I think is the total wrong direction, but my boss said we need to do. Some weeks or months are stressful, like when preparing for an audit, or being interviewed by audit panels of a half dozen people. Last audit took me 2 months to decompress from, and I did a bit of camping.
It's all about finding the joy in the day, and learning how to de-stress. On really stressful days, I take 2-3 walks for 20-30 minutes over to and around a local park. I wear earbuds and listen to music I enjoy, even while doing lame reports.
As far as "risky" stuff - well, I bike to work. That's a ton of fun getting to push myself on the way to work and on the way home. How fast can I go, how close can I cut corners, etc. I've a nice bike trail 80% of the way, and the 20% on the surface streets I enjoy racing cars (ebike). I nearly crashed yesterday, making a narrow turn right to go up a hill back to the surface streets, which I usually swing wide left first - except there was on oncoming bicyclist that prevented me from doing so, and I hit the dirt and gravel just a few inches off the paved path, tired went fishtailing (bike bag on the back and accelerating ebike motor), but I managed to pull it off. Sometimes I don't, and my bike and I have a few dings and dents to show for it.
I also kayak and go shooting at my local range. Kayaking is fun and some risk (mostly just getting rolled and soaking wet). Shooting is a major stress reliever, be it with a rifle or a handgun. Unloading a magazine at 200 yards and hearing "plink" "plink" "plink" is just a blast when you get things dialed in. It's also nice to know as I get older I don't have to be the biggest, fastest, baddest guy to protect my family, as Smith & Wesson have my back too.
Oh, and I find and play a cool video game here or there. Horizon Zero Dawn has been a blast, but I still won't do the final battle as I don't want it to end. At least not until November when there will be new DLC.
Find some hobbies and outside work stuff. Makes going to work not so bad. If you can, do some of that stuff daily, and especially stuff that doesn't rely on others. Yeah, I like doing things with my family and friends, but I go solo a lot of times when others don't want to or cancel. The only except to that is kayaking (unsafe solo where I go).
Procrastinate no more! Start today!
Requiem for the American Dream
This is why I like software.
Get tired of doing PHP, jump over to Java. Get tired of that, jump over to a C/C++ stack. Get tired of that, jump to a WCF project. Get tired of that, jump back to C.
10 PRINT "I hate my job. I'll look for a new one!"
20 PRINT "I found a new job!"
30 PRINT "I love my new job!"
40 SLEEP 15552000
50 GOTO 10
RTTA
and 55-65 jail / prison as your doctor (usa only) needs to be planned for as well.
Only if you didn't plan well.
Personal savings for retirement works pretty well, but it has a problem. Not enough people have the discipline to do it properly. Stuff is too tempting. Many of my Co-workers, who made less than me, were driving Escalades and HumVees around, and leased or bought a new one every couple years. Meanwhile, I kept my Jeeps for at least ten years.
They re-financed their houses several times, sometimes to buy that Escalade, sometimes to take their kids and kid's friends to DisneyWorld every summer. We took our son once.
I refied mine to get the lower interest, and sunk all the money back into the house.
Real Estate agents talked them into creative financing in order to buy as absolutely much house as possible, because you know, real Estate never goes down Oopsies! I fired two agents - one who insisted on showing us houses that were over what we said we'd pay, and the other who called me stupid for not playing the house poor game.
I paid the place off in 15 years. They are in their 60's and looking at ten more years.
This isn't even bragging, as when we were first married, the wife and I lived pretty frugally. Lived in a nice mobile home until I was in my mid 30's Before buying a house.Some of them are still paying off the credit card they bought their first total furniture suite on. Now I don't live frugally at all. But it just takes discipline.
Which most people simply do not have.
The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
the drop in population combined with wartime economies and a massive spike in new technology to feed the war machine is what got us out of what was looking like a perpetual recession/depression. Having to rebuild Europe helped to. Most of history has been about prying enough money away from our ruling class for civilization to proceed despite their best efforts (since if you're rich the last thing you want is anything upsetting the apple cart, seeing as how you own the cart and all the apples).
Hi! I make Firefox Plug-ins. Check 'em out @ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/youtube-mp3-podcaster/
I just moved from front-line work to management. What I've found is that my front-line experience has given me unique knowledge of what support my guys need to be successful.
I had a string of "people managers" who had no idea what the job entailed, and it was really frustrating because I'd be expected to complete a job, but nobody would line up the stuff I needed to succeed.
By contrast, I think my people are a lot happier and more effective now because I know the adminstrative hurdles in their way and try to help deal with those before assigning a job.
I wish switching jobs doesn't make you any more happier. It just numbs the pain because you'll getting a bigger paycheck. thats it. Unless money makes you happy it's hopeless. I can't do a job longer then 2years. Either I'll shoot myself and be fired due to something stupid or hand in my notice.
I've tried it all: DevOps, Sysadmin, Programming
I've worked for banks, data centers, porn, corporate; and its all shit. The lack of women is a big part too.
Working in IT is like being friendzoned. "Oh hi, nice to meet you, so what do you work as?" "IT" ... oh that a great, let me go get another drink. yeah i'll have 2.
Get tired of doing PHP, jump over to Java. Get tired of that, jump over to a C/C++ stack. Get tired of that, jump to a WCF project. Get tired of that, jump back to C.
Does that honestly make the job different enough it feels fresh? I would have guessed that felt like the exact same job, just with a different coffee mug. Or does the nature of the projects shift enough with the changing language that it's more than that?
The Quirkz Handbook of Self-Improvement for People Who Are Already Pretty Okay
I had a job cleaning the jizz out of jack off booths
I assisted in embalming corpses
I did wash and fold loads for prostitutes......
I think I like current job more.
In the late seventies, the late Studs Terkel wrote a book entitled "Working", where he interviewed ordinary people about their working life. In it, he mentions a study that said that, I think it was 70% or 80% of *everyone*, didn't just dislike their job, but actively hated it.
And that was before the 40 hr week went away for a lot of people, and before the "job creators" uncreated jobs in the US, and created sweatshops in Asia and Southeast Asia, leaving a *lot* of folks here working two part-time crap jobs just to pay the rent.
Everything in IT is increasingly being outsourced to script copy/paste'rs in India. I love what I do but hate that no company is willing to hire me directly and provide the standard benefits all of their other employees receive. The temp agencies are no better, Robert Half Technology changed their Holiday pay requirements so that you have to work 50 hours a week to qualify.