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How a Tax Inspector Used Google Search To Locate the Founder of SilkRoad (bbc.com)

An anonymous reader shares a report: You could buy any drug imaginable, wherever you were in the world, on the Silk Road website. Hidden on the dark web, it made millions of dollars every week. The US government had been trying to shut it down for more than two years when tax agent Gary Alford was brought in to try to trace the money which passed through the site. In his spare time, Gary started searching Google to try to find the mysterious mastermind behind the site: Dread Pirate Roberts. And he was successful. Gary spent hours trawling the internet for the first ever mention of Silk Road. He says he came across a posting on Bitcoin forum. In the post, Roberts had shared his Gmail account. That escalated the investigation. Gary spoke with BBC describing the rest.

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  1. Video? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    No one is going to watch a stupid video for this.

    1. Re:Video? by Gaygirlie · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Pretty much. As soon as I noticed it was a video I just simply closed the tab in disgust. Videos are great and all for content where there is some visual content that'd be difficult to convey properly in textual form, but... talking heads ain't that.

    2. Re:Video? by aicrules · · Score: 1

      While this is slightly off topic from the story, it is interesting how Video was supposed to be like the entire internet by now, yet I agree that for stories like this, if I am forced into a video to get more information it is highly likely I'll bail on the whole story. Some of that is probably because I'll read news stories at work or somewhere else where audio isn't an option, but I know that's not the whole reason because I will do the same at home most times unless I am extremely interested in the story. I wonder why that is...I definitely prefer talking to a person to hear a story rather than read it in a text message...just a mildly intriguing psychological phenomenon that I'd love to read about. Now I'll probably get someone posting a reply with a link to a video explanation of what I'm describing...

    3. Re:Video? by Mashiki · · Score: 2

      Video like this is the "it's millinial's thus, hot shit in their demographic market" just like it was supposed to be for gen-xer's in 2002.

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    4. Re:Video? by LordWabbit2 · · Score: 2

      What's annoying about videos is the wadsworth constant where the first 30% of a video is not worth watching because it contains nothing relevant to why you are watching the video in the first place. It's waffle about their other videos and pleas to subscribe etc. etc. You used to be able to add &wadsworth=1 to a youtube url, but the last time I tried it didn't work anymore.

      The other reason I prefer reading to watching someone with a lisp trying to explain something, is that I read WAY faster than they can talk (without sounding like Mickey Mouse) so if I am skimming a wall of text scanning for something it's faster and I don't waste 10~15 minutes of my life before realizing the video does not have the information I am looking for.

      The annoying part is everyone wants to be a youtube star, so more and more I have to sit through some twat waffling about his cat.

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    5. Re:Video? by Avarist · · Score: 1

      Actually there's a pretty good feature film about this. Worth the watch.

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    6. Re:Video? by rogoshen1 · · Score: 1

      i think part of it is because textual content is so trivial to copy and pass off as your own.

    7. Re:Video? by mattack2 · · Score: 1

      ....and the name of that feature film is?????

    8. Re:Video? by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      The reason they do videos is because Youtube pays people if enough watch it. So make 10 lines of text and get $0.00 out of it, or make a video and you get a chance of making some oney. If you spend 10 minutes up front describing all your friend's youtube channel and 10 minutes at the end reminding people to click on "subscribe" then you may get even more money. You wouldn't want to force these people to have to get a real job, would you?

    9. Re:Video? by Avarist · · Score: 1

      Deep Web (2015)

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  2. bull by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    yeah that's the official story
    they just dont want to admit they used the same techniques to break in machines as what they are supposed to protect us from , the silkroad bust is as criminal as what was going on on the silkroad

    1. Re:bull by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      yeah that's the official story
      they just dont want to admit they used the same techniques to break in machines as what they are supposed to protect us from , the silkroad bust is as criminal as what was going on on the silkroad

      True enough that criminal acts were being committed by law enforcement, and that sales of items that bear criminal penalties were occurring on Silk Road.

      But my friend Ross Ulbricht was a true Libertarian in his ideals, and in fact did not engage in illegal activity. He basically set up an "ebay with looser rules". He was no kingpin, but just the first to create (and groom) a dark-web sales site with vendor reviews and everything. It is likely that Ross saved countless lives by instituting a system of customer-feedback, which weeded-out the unreliable outlets for whatever they were selling.

      Ross built a very successful model for an open-market site. The status-quo can't handle that, so he gets life in prison only because they think that he will serve 'as an example' to others. If you've perused the dark-web lately, you will see that he is being avidly imitated, and serves as 'the opposite of an example' in terms of law-enforcement risk to people.

      Stay strong, Ross.

    2. Re:bull by Megol · · Score: 1

      Why is it that people that should know better fall for conspiracy theories? Because an alternative explanation of how dread idiot shitbag was found isn't needed - he fucked up. In public forums. Repeatedly. He fucked up when he allowed people to get access to his notebook computer (yes _allowed_ by having shit security).

      There's no reason to believe in conspiracies connected to this case. None. But still people that should know better believe them.

    3. Re:bull by Megol · · Score: 1

      Nice friends you have. Let's hope you don't do anything wrong or you may get a contract on your head...

    4. Re:bull by king+neckbeard · · Score: 1

      Perhaps because we already heard a similar story to how a poorly configured captcha was the cause of the downfall.

      Also, because it has long been suspected that there are exploitable vulnerabilities in TOR, which US intel would not like disclosed. We also know that parallel construction is a common practice, and this would be a case where that would be likely to happen.

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  3. Maybe the real lesson is paranoia by DickBreath · · Score: 4, Insightful

    When you first want to unveil something like this, think ahead more. Don't get caught up in the excitement of your creation.

    Use a new computer (hint, they're cheap these days, even a Raspberry Pi). Use a browser in the most anonymous mode, within a VM. Connect to the internet using an anonymous WiFi. Create a new account on the forum simply for the unveiling event. Wipe the VM and maybe even the entire computer when you're done. If the computer was a Pi, simply dispose of the SD card. Use a USB WiFi dongle, not the computer's built in WiFI -- and then dispose of the WiFI dongle when done. Use a pre-composed message for your announcement. Make sure it is not in your typical writing style and vocabulary. Don't compose the message on another computer. Maybe on a yellow paper tablet that is easily disposed of.

    Maybe that sounds too paranoid. After all, they're not out to get you.

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    1. Re:Maybe the real lesson is paranoia by misexistentialist · · Score: 1

      hard not to make a mistake ever, he probably should have been sowing the seeds of his defense that he wasn't DPR by setting up red herrings and fall guys so he could at least get a favorable plea deal

    2. Re:Maybe the real lesson is paranoia by hey! · · Score: 3, Insightful

      And never, ever, ever make a mistake. Mistakes never go away.

      What's in addition point mistakes, where you reveal a single, discrete detail that identifies you, there are cumulative mistakes, where you release enough enough information over time; innocuous details that crosschecked with each other can locate you in time and space.

      Even your writing style and subject matter can identify you. That's how they caught the Unabomber, through content and style of his manifesto. Keep your communications terse, business-like and confine them to the point, and avoid regionalisms.

      If you must argue politics, use sock puppet accounts.

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    3. Re:Maybe the real lesson is paranoia by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      From the video I got the sense that they uncovered a forum posting that discussed *how* to do something like Silk Road, not necessarily announcing Silk Road. Why he left his email at the end of the thread is unclear, but probably at this point he wasn't fully committed to the idea. You tend to be laxer with data security if you don't think you're going to actually do anything serious.

    4. Re:Maybe the real lesson is paranoia by gachunt · · Score: 1

      I type with my non-dominate hand when I want to remain anonymous.

    5. Re:Maybe the real lesson is paranoia by houghi · · Score: 1

      Maybe that sounds too paranoid. After all, they're not out to get you.

      It is only paranoia if you THINK you are being followed.

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    6. Re:Maybe the real lesson is paranoia by houghi · · Score: 1

      Dispose of the WIFI dongle? Why not just edit the MAC?

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    7. Re:Maybe the real lesson is paranoia by rogoshen1 · · Score: 1

      Or simply get out while ahead.. make a million or two, then abandon ship. Move somewhere like Russia or Thailand and never look back.

    8. Re:Maybe the real lesson is paranoia by Areyoukiddingme · · Score: 1

      Even your writing style and subject matter can identify you. That's how they caught the Unabomber, through content and style of his manifesto. Keep your communications terse, business-like and confine them to the point, and avoid regionalisms.

      Just run your English text through Google Translate, from English to German to French and back to English again. You'll end up sounding like you were dropped on your head as a baby, but you'll still be understandable, and it will handily obliterate your personal style in the process. (As opposed to English->Turkish->Japanese->English, which doesn't even result in actual words...)

  4. Re:jeez by DickBreath · · Score: 1

    Maybe this planet is some other planet's hell. Or prison.

    Life in prison is to send a message that this is much worse than rape or murder, for which you won't get such a harsh sentence. This the the worst crime. Defying authority!

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  5. Re:But the book came out this spring... by SlickUSA · · Score: 1

    An amazing story with incredibly researched details, if i may add!

  6. Best part of the story by Bill+Hayden · · Score: 5, Funny

    Librarian: I texted my son, "...a bunch of FBI agents just came in and busted a guy." My son knew exactly what Silk Road was! (nervous laugh) I don't know why he knew that.

    Comedy gold.

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  7. Re:jeez by EndlessNameless · · Score: 1

    This the the worst crime. Defying authority!

    Not even close. There was credible evidence that DPR tried to order hits on people who he perceived as threats.

    I assume the judge had the option to provide a lesser sentence, but if someone is willing to hire a hitman to protect his illegal business---how is he any better than a mob boss? Send him up the river.

    Fuck that guy, he deserves to rot. Not for the drugs alone, sure, but he is a piece of shit.

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  8. Re:Something to be aware of: by pnutjam · · Score: 1

    Yeah, best method is a craigslist laptop running a vm that you destroy. If your paranoid, ditch the laptop afterwards, you can probably sell it again if your careful.
    USB tails on a used laptop is pretty hard to trace as well.

  9. Really? by nospam007 · · Score: 4, Funny

    "searching Google to try to find the mysterious mastermind behind the site: Dread Pirate Roberts."

    Inconceivable!

    1. Re:Really? by Neo-Rio-101 · · Score: 1

      As you wish

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  10. Huh. by Type44Q · · Score: 1

    You could buy any drug imaginable, wherever you were in the world, on the Silk Road website.

    Yeah. Or so they claim.

  11. Re:jeez by king+neckbeard · · Score: 1

    What there is evidence of is that law enforcement and informants created a threat, and a means of addressing that threat, which DPR utilized. So, he order a fake murder for a fake threat under extreme duress created by law enforcement.

    From a utilitarian perspective, had all of the above been real, it would have still been the ethical choice. Compared to the meatspace black market, the lives that he paid to end are rounding errors. The threats were effectively holding the safety and freedom of many others hostage.

    Yes, I realize saying that makes me sound like a cold, calculating bastard. Law enforcement, particular vice, is not about warm and fuzzies either, and often fails to take into consideration the total harm (since, if they did, they'd quickly find the best option is to do nothing, which is bad for their long term employment).

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  12. We've all been to Silk Road right? by Trax3001BBS · · Score: 1

    At first I thought it TOR's front page, and can vouch for the abundance of drugs; mostly kids selling their Adderall.

  13. Re:What mastermind? by king+neckbeard · · Score: 2

    From a technical standpoint, Amazon isn't particularly exceptional as a website, or at least it wasn't until it had enough volume that major innovations were needed to handle the load.

    Being a large presence on the internet often consists of creating the first "good enough" site for a particular niche.

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  14. Re:Millenials by Qzukk · · Score: 1

    I caved in and did video tutorials, because trying to support people as they read the monitor to me word by word ("File"..."Edit"..."View"...) was going to give me a stroke.

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  15. Re:But the book came out this spring... by rogoshen1 · · Score: 1

    Can slashdot just go ahead and ban self-promotion/shilling in posts?

    It's really god damn annoying, take your yard-sale somewhere else.

  16. Re:But the book came out this spring... by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

    Can slashdot just go ahead and ban self-promotion/shilling in posts?

    Take it up with management. Bitching in the comments won't change anything.

    It's really god damn annoying, take your yard-sale somewhere else.

    Feel free to go somewhere else, as I'm not violating the Slashdot TOS.

  17. Very ticky by hattable · · Score: 1

    I'm not falling for it. I don't read the articles. Did you think having the articles read themselves to me would work any better?

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