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China Orders Internet Comments Linked To Real Identities (engadget.com)

A (truly) anonymous Slashdot reader quotes Engadget: China isn't slowing down in its bid to silence online political opposition. As of October 1st, the country will require that tech firms hold on to records of the real identities of everyone posting comments on internet message boards. This is to discourage "false rumors, filthy language and illegal messages," according to the government. Of course, it's that last part that Chinese officials are really interested in -- they know you're less likely to challenge the political order if investigators can easily track you down.

The timing of this identity requirement, the VPN restriction and other crackdowns (such as an investigation into internet giants for allowing material that "harms the social order") isn't coincidental. China's ruling party has its next national congress later in 2017, and it has a habit of ramping up censorship around these gatherings to discourage criticism of party policies.

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  1. Fuck China. by log0n · · Score: 3, Informative

    Fuck China.

    1. Re:Fuck China. by log0n · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Or rather, fuck the Chinese government. I'm sure the people are swell.

    2. Re:Fuck China. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Oh sweet summer child, you don't think it'll be everywhere soon? The Wild West is ending, the internet is for govt and big business.

    3. Re: Fuck China. by KGIII · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Gotta be honest, Mexico is pretty handy if you don't mind paying bribes and massive violence that the Federales/policia are willing to ignore. La drugas es no mucho dinero y la pequenas es muy caliente.

      Err... I'm unable to spell in Spanish.

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    4. Re:Fuck China. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      You've never been to China, have you?

    5. Re:Fuck China. by benjfowler · · Score: 2, Informative

      Spotted the wumao.

    6. Re:Fuck China. by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 3, Insightful

      So, that's what you're going with? Russians did it? The Russians made Hillary lose Pennsylvania? How the hell does ANY Democrat lose Pennsylvania? Or Michigan, for fuck's sake? PA, MI, *and* Wisconsin and somehow TEH COMMIEZ did it?

      Now, I bet the discussions in the Michigan union halls and the Pennsylvania VFWs went something like this: "You know Mitch, with the economy so good and America so respected in the world, I was totally going to support Hillary continuing Obama's work, but then I found out that Donna Brazile was feeding her CNN's debate questions. Also, until Comey reminded me, I had totally forgotten Hillary was under FBI investigation for doing what would have gotten me sent to Leavenworth if I had done it when I was in the Navy. So, despite loving all the Democrat policies that have made my life a paradise, especially the idea of a law allowing grown men in dresses to loiter in my tween daughter's restroom, I'm voting for Trump. Oh, and I'm a deplorable racist and hate science. Also, sexism."

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    7. Re: Fuck China. by KGIII · · Score: 2

      Mi espanol es muy mierda.

      I get by. I like Cental America. Fortunately, they are patient while I butcher their language.

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    8. Re:Fuck China. by AK+Marc · · Score: 2, Informative
      The exit polls had hillary winning some of those. Historically, when the exit polls don't match the results, there was fraud.

      And it's hard to think Trump won anything. Most places have almost no public support for him now.

      Democrat policies that have made my life a paradise, especially the idea of a law allowing grown men in dresses to loiter in my tween daughter's restroom,

      That was already legal almost everywhere. And a pre-op transexual isn't a man in a dress. The Democrat's preferred legislation would have made the man in the dress illegal, when he wasn't illegal before. But the racist/sexist lies get the votes. The truth is too nuanced for the Donnie John voter.

    9. Re: Fuck China. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2

      Lots of those bullshit fake news stories *were* thoroughly debunked with basic facts and logic, it's just that Trump supporters didn't want to listen. And then Trump hijacked the term fake news to mean any factual information that he doesn't like, and that's how we got to where we are now.

    10. Re:Fuck China. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      And it's hard to think Trump won anything.

      He didn't. Hillary lost, and you guys have a two party system.

      The election was decided on which candidate people considered to be the worst, not who they wanted as president.

    11. Re:Fuck China. by Opportunist · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Can't really second that. US people are generally woefully uninformed for a people with a free press and free access to information, but they're also generally nice. I only found them a bit patronizing, at least the ones that don't really know there is a world outside of their country.

      In other words, there is no tactful way to inform your host that he needn't explain how a light switch works...

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    12. Re: Fuck China. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It amaz8ng how liberals think the right are all uneducated brainwashed morons. Guess what, the right thinks the exact same thing as the left. In this respect the left and right agree. Both agree that their side is great and the other side are a bunch of slanderous pigs. There is no debate, just name calling. Whether you are a commie or a Nazi in the end it works out the same. I propose a third side in the debate. Let's get the Nazi right, the commie left, the BLM crowd, the racist, the faggots, and the homophobes to form one gigantic party called the United States to crush the foreign interests using the media to divide the country and worry bullshit while the country and media is sold to China.

      You may think the USA is a evil imperialistic empire, but when it falls the liberators will consider you to be the enemy, so might as well defend the place you live. We need to hand together or we shall all hang separately as they say. The enemy is not the right or left. It is the people using the media to divide up the country.

    13. Re: Fuck China. by david_thornley · · Score: 2

      Actually, it was to provide separate primary stats for magic-users and clerics. Most of the original boxed set was slapped together (the rules sure weren't well-written) without deep thought.

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  2. Re:A government the US lefties want by renegadesx · · Score: 3, Insightful

    There are calls by bureaucrats for similar measures in the EU to do the same thing. It's not as crazy as some people think.

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  3. Re:Not so different by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Facebook can do business as its own wishes, and yet not be doing the same thing at all as a government compelling all businesses.

    As usual, Dumb-and-Buffoonish, you can't bother to get past your own mendacity.

    Of course, Facebook was not even the first to implement such a system, so you couldn't even get that right.

  4. They'll be losing most favorite nation status by rsilvergun · · Score: 4, Insightful

    any day now. Yup. Any day now. Right after we call out Saudi Arabia for it's civil rights abuses and treatment of women. In other news, the new iPhone 8 looks pretty sweet.

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    1. Re:They'll be losing most favorite nation status by swell · · Score: 2

      And let's not forget our friends running Israel who are quietly committing genocide while the US media looks elsewhere. But yeah, that iPhone!

      Posting anon due to residing in USA, land of the free (so long as we keep our mouth shut).

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  5. Re: A government the US lefties want by KGIII · · Score: 5, Insightful

    No, it's pretty crazy. What is crazy is not seeing the absurdity of this. It's kinda disappointing that people ignore the value of anonymous speech. When faced with retaliation, you tend to not feel comfortable freely expressing yourself.

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  6. End of the World as We Knew It by mschwanke97402 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    You know it is a whole lot more likely that we get to where the chinese, and many other countries, are through the back door, of lawsuits, liability judgements and insurance companies. Western societies are often more constrained by such than by actual law and government regulation.

    1. Re:End of the World as We Knew It by swb · · Score: 2

      It seems inevitable. The nexus of business, government, national security and social stability all seem to make China seem like an innovator, not a regressive authoritarian.

      I guess its just a question as to whether China can make their society seem consumer/individual friendly enough that nobody really cares about the authoritarianism, and whether the US can make their authoritarianism consumer/individual friendly enough that nobody notices.

      It's like the last great frontier of innovation is how you implement authoritarianism.

  7. Re: A government the US lefties want by KGIII · · Score: 2

    I didn't mention, nor infer, either end of the political spectrum. If you're curious, I'm pretty damned leftist. Free speech is/was once a very left view to hold.

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  8. Re:A government the US _righties_ want by Cyberax · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Actually, China is a right-winger dream: uber-capitalist, lax regulations, no meaningful minimum wage, no environmental protection. Add to that an authoritarian government that doesn't tolerate anything non-traditional (LGBTs, foreign religions, porn) and you get the wet dreams of right-wingers.

  9. This is coming soon to America too. by cyn1c77 · · Score: 2

    Trump wants to know who is talking about him!

  10. Re: A government the US lefties want by KGIII · · Score: 2

    I am unfamiliar with that law. It seems true.

    As I was saying, if I can threaten you or your family, I can probably ensure you say exactly what I want. North Koreans know their government sucks, they also know where they will end up for vocalizing that.

    We need the freedom to express ourselves. Even the Nazis deserve that freedom.

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  11. Re:A government the US _righties_ want by Dutch+Gun · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Except most right-wingers espouse a minimalist Federal government, are pro-firearms-rights, anti-abortionists, religious, and generally favor a strict constructionist interpretation of the US Constitution, with all those pesky individual rights enumerated. Yeah, definitely a right-winger's paradise there.

    Authoritarian governments don't really favor the left OR right. They just favor themselves.

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  12. Re:A government the US _righties_ want by Cyberax · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Have you been in China? It is so capitalist that Ayn Rand would hide under her bed after seeing it. And state companies are nigh indistinguishable from US-style monopolies. Minimum wage is not meaningful, it's not survivable and even that is violated left and right. Tons of factories are STILL open as you can see by looking at the air in Beijing, more often than not regulations are used to extort (small) bribes. Actually, pretty much all regulations are as lax as you want them to be for a small sum.

    As an example, my friend lives near a 24-hour construction site. The work is supposed to stop at 10pm but it continues throughout the night, with the associated noise.

    To its credit, Chinese government is trying to stop the wild unbridled free market and at least force people to obey some laws. Turns out that living inside a pure capitalism is hell.

  13. Re:US & globalism by GNious · · Score: 2

    That's also b'cos the US has never had any global ambitions

    Eh... you SURE about that?