Android Oreo Bug Eats Up Mobile Data Even When On Wi-Fi (betanews.com)
Mark Wilson shares a report from BetaNews: An apparent bug with Android Oreo has been discovered which means Google's mobile operating system could be munching its way through your data allowance, even if you're connected to a wireless network. A thread on Reddit highlighted the issue, with many people pointing out that it could prove expensive for anyone not using an unlimited data plan. Google is apparently aware of the problem and is working on a patch, but in the meantime Oreo users are being warned to consider disabling mobile data when they are at home or using a wireless connection elsewhere.
With the current record of manufacturers and carriers not giving a damn about porting the Android updates to their products, I'm happy that google is developing a patch, but I'm wondering if anybody will actually receive the patch.
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The default for that setting for normal users is "on" by design, it's there for fast transition to mobile data when the wifi signal goes out of range. Pretty sure that was the default in Android 7 also, at least on the Pixel. And it works great, one of my favourite features. That shouldn't increase data usage - wifi is used when it's there, the only difference is how fast you switch over to cellular data when the wifi signal goes out of range.
Seeing as how the only devices currently running Oreo are Google's own, I'd imagine they'll be getting the patches fairly swiftly.
Firstly Android 8 is only just out, I just got the OTA on my Pixel yesterday, so very few people have it. So not really an issue as far as fragmentation goes. I'm not sure any non-Google phones have shipped with it yet.
Secondly you haven't been paying attention to the Android 8 changes. The Google stuff, the SoC vendor stuff, and the OEM stuff are now cleanly separated (diagram), so Google updates can be applied without affecting the OEM stuff; there is no need any more for OEMs to spend resources customising and testing updates for their devices. So that situation should be much improved even once there are devices shipping with Oreo.
Thirdly, Android is free, and OEMs are free to put it on good phones, on mediocre phones, and on shitty phones. It's up to you to choose a decent phone. Don't blame Android for your bad choices.
Unlimited never seems to mean what you think it means.
So? ... How is this Apples fault?
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When you only have 5 options the user can change, it's pretty easy to have them readily accessible.
The article and the Reddit thread both talk about a "huge spike" in data usage without including any hard figures. What are we talking about here? 100 MB per day? A gigabyte?
I've heard that dipping your smartphone in milk fixes the problem.
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And it didn't occur to you that something was wrong when streaming was still working after you left your house? Or did you think your wi-fi router had a 500 miles range?
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And it didn't occur to you that something was wrong when streaming was still working after you left your house? Or did you think your wi-fi router had a 500 miles range?
I don't use spotify but I believe the subscription service for it allows you to save music locally to listen without streaming. It's quite possible that the GP thought it was using local media instead of streaming.
It seems unlikely. A 500 mile trip has got to take at least 10 hours. Unless the GP was listening to the same few tracks thinking they had cached - also unlikely.
I prefer the obvious (in the true spirit of Occam's razor) - the GP has a circular road around his home and he drove 500 miles on that road thinking that the wifi would continue to function.
The newly installed router fell over and died as soon as he got into his car. From this I deduce that the router was made by Belkin. That's why they call me Sherlock, Holmes.
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I'm just a cynical bastard as my comment history will say. But damn it... I'd just as soon not be confirmed in my own biases every damn time Google rolls out a really shitty feature.
But at the end of the day Google; why is it that you are so damn obsessed with central control of the environment when you can't even get half of your new features to work right to begin with? You're supposed to be in the business of providing consumer devices to people that they want to buy the best things you can make, not frustrate them with broken products and services.
Heh, not that I, now should ANYONE, have any illusions that Google isn't in the business of selling your constantly leaking stream of marketable data to the highest bidder and any security service that want's it. But you're at last supposed to try to make the basic hardware work first.
I have an app that lets me quickly turn off mobile data. Well actually, it lets me turn it on, as I have a minimal data plan so I leave it off almost all the time, unless I need to quickly send an email when I'm away from home or work.
When I first go tthe phone this was difficult as there was no quick enable/disable of mobile data like my older phone had, requiring going through several levels of settings to get to it. My guess at the time was that the service providers want you to suck up their bandwidth for extra profit.
You get a different sound when it's saved locally. Not as warm.
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Carriers in the US sell you the phones. Some require that you use their device exclusively. If a carrier sells me a phone, and that phone has a bug that causes my data usage to go beyond what I am using, it's the carrier's problem, not mine. I they attempt to bill me for it knowing that the device they sold me is causing this phantom data usage, they are the ones committing fraud. I see a class action lawsuit coming against carriers who choose to bill for data usage caused purely by a defect in a product they sell.