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Disney Is Pulling Star Wars and Marvel Films From Netflix (arstechnica.com)
Disney CEO Bob Iger announced on Thursday that his company will pull the full catalog of films from the Star Wars franchise and Marvel universe from Netflix after 2019. Last month, Disney announced it would be pulling a number of Disney titles from the Netflix catalog, but left the door open to keeping the Star Wars franchise and Marvel films. That door has since been slammed shut, "choosing instead to use movies like Iron Man, Captain America, and the forthcoming Star Wars: Episode IX as a draw to a new Disney-owned streaming service," reports Ars Technica. From the report: It's not clear exactly which films are affected by Iger's announcement. A Netflix spokesperson told The Verge last month that "we continue to do business with the Walt Disney Company on many fronts, including our ongoing deal with Marvel TV." That refers to a collaboration between Disney and Netflix to produce several live-action television series based on lesser-known Marvel characters Daredevil, Jessica Jones, Iron Fist, and Luke Cage. Some of those series are still being actively developed. It's a high-risk gamble for Disney. It makes sense for Disney to bring its best-known franchises back under its own roof to give the Disney streaming service the best possible chance of success. But Disney is leaving a lot of money on the table by not doing a deal with Netflix or one of its competitors. It could be an expensive mistake if the Disney streaming service doesn't get traction.
And nothing of value was lost. For me anyway.
Beware of the Leopard.
As per previous discussions on this. FUCK YOU DISNEY! I will not support service proliferation in this manner no matter what movies you have that I may want to watch. You are basically trying to create the exact same licensing, package lockin and distribution restrictions we fled to these streaming services to escape.
service. said no one ever. The rates they'll charge itll be cheaper to buy the titles you like, or simply pirate them. My price elasticity has already tapped out for these services.
I won't be watching disney/marvel films then.
Which is a sign of a company that does not understand its customers.
I suppose I could be charitable and assume that they are trying something new to see if it works, but I think I am on safer ground assuming arrogance.
All the streaming services are trying to give 'honest people' an alternative to piracy. If they try and charge too much or make it too difficult, piracy it will be.
John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
It will be followed with a spike in piracy and less revenue for Disney
And if you have kids you're pretty much stuck buying their stuff. Sure, you can skip it, but you're kids are going to be the odd man/girl out.
They'll live. You don't have to stream their crap for your kids to experience it. Disney has just about saturated itself out of the market IMHO
The cesspool just got a check and balance.
This. Every dang studio and every dang TV network is planning to have their very own subscription service for $$/month, just to see the one program of interest that they have, and I'm not doing it. I would probably have watched the new Star Trek series, but I'm not paying CBS $$/month subscription for their package of crap I'll never watch just for that one program.
I hadn't been tempted to go pirate before, but this is making me waver...
People care more about the content than the medium it's delivered on. Let's see, we watched Disney movies in the theater, then bought them on tape, then bought them on DVD, then streamed them online via $cable_company, then Netflix and now Disney's Service.
Who always made money in all those forms? Disney. Not the movie theater, the VHS tape mfg/distributor, video stores, DVD mfgs etc etc... Disney.. People will be wanting to watch Disney flicks for the next upteen years.
Same thing with all the other content.
We could have a scenario where every content owner has their own streaming service, so you pay them $10/mo, and then buy an aggregator box/service on top of them (Roku etc). Now you're back to paying $100/mo.
We haven't seen ESPN do it with sports, but once they get around to streaming it standalone (and not requiring a cable provider), it's gonna sell like gangbusters.
People have been demanding "a la carte" cable for decades.
Well, we finally got it - you can buy all the individual channels you want. Thing is, each one is now its own individual streaming service, with its own account and billing and app interface and media catalog.
Give it another five to ten years and there'll be services that bundle these services for you, and then we can start complaining about how Cable 2.0 is charging us too much for packages we don't use when all we want is Hulu and Netflix.
We're lost to them and they know it. Now they are trying to serve the 'honest people', but even there if they make it too hard, piratebay it is.
John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
Hopefully this cozy relationship between media creators and distribution channels will eventually be unraveled. Long ago, movie studios used to have ownership stakes in the theaters their movies were shown in. The government put an end to that. I'd like to see the same competition law kick in and force Disney to keep streaming contracts with outside firms.
HAH. Throw the dozens of Disney kids shows and it's ridiculously huge catalog of movies on there and people will be LINING UP to throw money at it to babysit their kids.
Copyright law gives content creators exclusive control over how their work is distributed. I agree that it's too much control, but government anti-trust law is powerless here because it's a right granted by the government in the first place.
We need to modify copyright law if we want to change it. But need I remind you that Disney is the company who successfully managed to shove life + 90 years copyright duration down our collective throats to protect Mickey Mouse.
Any other studio wouldn't try this because of the potential backlash from upset consumers. Disney thinks they can get away with it because kids are going to bug their parents into getting a subscription so they can watch the Disney stuff, principles be damned. And I suspect they're right.
Considering Disney makes literally the worst POSSIBLE choices every time as far as distribution of their product, I'd say Netflix should see this as validation.
VHS? Disney ran SCREAMING away from it, insisting it was going to destroy filmmakers, finally grudgingly dragging itself back to VHS...about the time DVDs came out.
DVD? Hahaha, Disney (insisting such tech would destroy filmmakers and the entire industry) backed the original Divx, which was a rental scheme by which you could buy the disk for about triple the price of a movie rental, and you could then play it (once it validated itself and your purchase in what was essentially an early IoT-locked dvd player) for 48 hours. If you wanted to play it past that 48 hours, you could pay again. (http://www.dvdjournal.com/extra/divx.html)
So...pretty much any tech that Disney's terrified of will soon become the defacto standard.
-Styopa
The new Star Trek is CBS All Access only.
>"If you're in the US, not sure that's an issue. Isn't CBS still free over the air??"
CBS has explicitly said they are NOT going to air the new Star Trek and have it ONLY on their streaming service. There are absolutely ZERO other shows most of us want from CBS, so this is likely to go over like a lead balloon. So they will have very little streaming revenue and zero ad revenue. I suspect they will give up and air it anyway after they discover people will not tolerate it and it ends up very popular on illegal file sharing.
The CNET article was a bit more concise in its treatment of the Defenders question.
Netflix will keep the original Marvel TV series it produced, namely "The Defenders" and the four series focusing on each character, such as "Daredevil." As the Defenders are officially part of the Marvel Cinematic Universe, you may need both streaming services to keep up to date with the whole shebang.
In my case, this is all I care about. I see all Star Wars and Marvel movies at the theatre, and I almost never watch anything twice. So, I've never used Netflix to see one of those movies.
The original programming is a completely different story. I would have been very angry if the viewing time I'd spent on that were wasted (I'll never get a Disney service).
Well done Bob, well done: I'm cancelling my Netflix account as well. With my 28 MB per second internet connection, who need multitude of legal streaming services anyway, huh Bob?
Excluding Marvel cartoons, the only Marvel movies on Netflix (streaming) from the past 10 years are Doctor Strange and Captain America Civil War.
The only Star Wars film on Netflix is Rogue One.
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