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Leaks Reveal New Features In Apple's Next iPhone

Though Apple officially unveils their newest iPhone on Tuesday, information is already leaking on the internet.
  • Mashable: "Physically, it's expected to be about the same size as an iPhone 7, but with an edge-to-edge OLED display that's bigger than what is currently on the iPhone 7 Plus. It won't have a home button or Touch ID, and will likely use some kind of facial recognition tech to unlock."
  • MacRumors cites a report from KGI Securities analyst Ming-Chi Kuo suggesting facial recognition may just be one feature of a complex front camera with 3D sensing hardware, including a proximity sensor, ambient light sensor, and a structured light transmitter (using a surface-emitting laser) and receiver.
  • Fortune: "Apple's iPhone line is expected to catch up with Android phones in the area of wireless charging this year... just lay the phone down on a compatible charger mat or base or dock, and watch the battery fill up."
  • 9to5Mac: "We've found a brand new feature called 'Animoji', which uses the 3D face sensors to create custom 3D animated emoji based on the expressions you make into the camera. Users will be able to make Animoji of unicorns, robots, pigs, pile of poo and many more."

224 comments

  1. Oh joy.... by Rick+Zeman · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "Users will be able to make Animoji of unicorns, robots, pigs, pile of poo and many more.""

    We've hit rock bottom....

    1. Re:Oh joy.... by Dunbal · · Score: 1

      If there was ever a compelling reason to pay $500+ for an upgrade, here it is.

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    2. Re:Oh joy.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Turns out I've been making 'pile-of-poo' face for years. Now I finally understand it.

    3. Re:Oh joy.... by jez9999 · · Score: 1

      I always wanted to know what it would be like when poo frowned at me.

    4. Re:Oh joy.... by martinX · · Score: 1

      I always wanted to know what it would be like when poo frowned at me.

      Things are looking bad for you if you've managed to give the shits to a shit.

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    5. Re:Oh joy.... by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Get a job, get a boss, there you go.

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    6. Re:Oh joy.... by sheramil · · Score: 1

      Came here to post that, prefaced by ".. having solved all of the other of the worlds' problems..."

    7. Re:Oh joy.... by j_l_cgull · · Score: 1

      "Users will be able to make Animoji of unicorns, robots, pigs, pile of poo and many more.""

      We've hit rock bottom....

      Now, you can create an Animoji for that ;)

    8. Re:Oh joy.... by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      In Soviet Russia, shit gives shits to old people! No, wait...

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    9. Re:Oh joy.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Correction. apple has hit rock bottom.

    10. Re:Oh joy.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The NSA backdoor is still a secret though. ae911truth dot org

    11. Re:Oh joy.... by hai_Priesty · · Score: 1

      Don't ever doubt for moment that humankind have a way to dig deeper at the rock bottom whenever boredom is involved in any first-world problems.

    12. Re:Oh joy.... by thegarbz · · Score: 2

      Perfect is the enemy of good enough. Solving "all of the other of the world's problems" would result in no progress ever again.

      That said this specific thing is quite stupid.

    13. Re:Oh joy.... by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

      "Users will be able to make Animoji of unicorns, robots, pigs, pile of poo and many more.""

      That's not the part that concerns me.

      "We've found a brand new feature called 'Animoji', which uses the 3D face sensors to create custom 3D animated emoji based on the expressions you make into the camera.

      Jesus wept. Now we get treated to people on the bus making funny faces into their iPhones, while we guess which emoji they're trying to pantomime. How funny would it be if the phones could be hacked so that no matter what expression the user makes, it always gives the pile of poo emoji?

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    14. Re:Oh joy.... by Methadras · · Score: 1

      Well, so much for keeping your phone locked anymore from government snoops.

    15. Re:Oh joy.... by Strudelkugel · · Score: 1

      The key "innovation" I would like to see on the iPhone and iPad that would get me to buy a new one?

      A USB-C connector.

      Short of that, none of the features mentioned as possible additions would entice me to buy a new iPhone or iPad. Being able to consolidate cables and power bricks would be a huge plus, though.

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    16. Re:Oh joy.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Users will be able to make Animoji of unicorns, robots, pigs, pile of poo and many more.""

      We've hit rock bottom....

      no no no... not yet... leave it to Apple to continue to find a new "innovative" and "brave" new low for all the brainless Apple users every 4 years or so!

  2. 3x by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Troughton-Smith also predicts a 3x screen at 1125x2436 resolution

    What is a "3x screen"? Tried Googling, results unenlightening.

    1. Re:3x by thesupraman · · Score: 2, Informative

      Apple doesnt appear to realise that you can scale bitmaps to any size, especially on screen way better than most peoples eyes can handle (and with heavy GPUs that can trivially manage complex scaling algorithms) - so their resolutions are usually an exact multiples of the original iPhone.

      This would be 3 times the original resolution.

      You are expected to know this, because not to is blasphemy against the one great fashion.

    2. Re: 3x by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      We didn't know this, because it's so retarded nobody could have suspected Apple devices didn't just scale things properly in the first place.

    3. Re:3x by mean+pun · · Score: 1, Troll

      Apple doesnt appear to realise that you can scale bitmaps to any size, especially on screen way better than most peoples eyes can handle (and with heavy GPUs that can trivially manage complex scaling algorithms) - so their resolutions are usually an exact multiples of the original iPhone.

      Scaling is simply not as good as hand-made images for each resolution. Can your eyes handle it? Yes and no. For many people it is noticeable even if they can not express the difference.

      You are expected to know this, because not to is blasphemy against the one great fashion.

      Expected by whom? Why do you care so much?

    4. Re:3x by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 1

      You are expected to know this, because not to is blasphemy against the one great fashion.

      Expected by whom? Why do you care so much?

      Hatred of the other is a core competency of many humans.

      You can't just have an Android phone and enjoy it, your decision must reflect your superiority. You have to dehumanize the Apple user, expose them as having some terrible problem that causes them to purchase a terrible phone (does it even work, fam?) and declare them and the terrible product they use as your sworn enemy.

      Ford versus chevy, writ electronically.

      Meanwhile, I enjoy my iPhones, my Android tablets, my iMac, and my Linux machines, and even a Chromebook and Windows laptop. But actual daily use of a lot of devices and platforms can't stand against the need for hate, I've found

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    5. Re:3x by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Your informative reply gets modded as 'troll' because it doesn't contain mindless criticism of Apple.
      Slashdot might as well pull the plug.

    6. Re:3x by jblues · · Score: 1

      The original iPhone had a resolution of 640x480 pixels. When the iPhone 4 came out, it had a 'retina' display. The number of pixels was doubled. Everything stayed the same size of course - it was just that text was a lot sharper. The 'point' system for the graphics display was still 640x480, but it was now possible to draw a pixel at a half point. Also, when packaging bitmap assets for an app, you could include the optimal sizes. The naming convention was:

      • imageName.png
      • imageName@2x.png

      So a 3x screen is (term coined by this Troughton-Smith feller) the next evolution of that

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    7. Re:3x by mikael · · Score: 1

      There's always a trade-off between complex processing and energy consumption. Using simple bitmaps scaled to integer multiples only requires the 2D pixelblitter chip logic.

      Even then text fonts are defined as Unicode subsets using TrueType and which have every glyph defined from spline curves and then rasterized using a pixel engine (even the font has it's own little shader to handle those literal corner cases at concave points). Then the pixelmap is processed so that compensation is applied due to the RGB structure of the screen.

      Some GPU text rendering techniques actually make use of distance field functions to handle scaling, but that consumes a bit more power.

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    8. Re:3x by thegarbz · · Score: 3, Funny

      What is a "3x screen"? Tried Googling, results unenlightening.

      Disagree I just searched "xxx screen" and found the results not only enlightening but also quite arousing.

    9. Re: 3x by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A lot of people have this thing about truth, calling out bullshit marketing...

      There's a lawsuit about S iri because it still can't do what the advertisement DEMONSTRATED.

      The people are still expecting a single core 3g phone to render complex websites in under 5 seconds (no warning about accelerated video).

      In the uk, they were selling LTE tablets that couldn't actually connect to UK's LTE bands.

      After blowing 600 to 1000 dollars, I'd feel hatred too

    10. Re: 3x by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      320x480, not 640x480

    11. Re: 3x by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 1

      After blowing 600 to 1000 dollars, I'd feel hatred too

      That's because hatred is your core competency. I've never bought one computing device that ever did everything promised. But hey, if hatred makes you happy and helps you in your life, then by all means, hate hate hate. Try violence next, it is the natural progression.

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    12. Re:3x by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Apple doesnt appear to realise that you can scale bitmaps to any size, especially on screen way better than most peoples eyes can handle (and with heavy GPUs that can trivially manage complex scaling algorithms)

      Why would you waste resources doing complex scaling algorithms on the GPU when you know your target image size at development time?

    13. Re: 3x by blindseer · · Score: 1

      There's a lawsuit about S iri because it still can't do what the advertisement DEMONSTRATED.

      I'm sure that there is also a lawsuit against Burger King because the burger someone got didn't look like the one on the menu.

      People bring bullshit lawsuits for bullshit reasons all the time. There's enough disclaimers on any advertisement to make the lawyers go away eventually. If not then more disclaimers will get added.

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    14. Re:3x by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How dare you! Stop making fun of Apples revolutionary retina display technology!

      P.S It sucks, you have to scale your shit to their non standard displays manually. But its like anything Apple, in the technological dark ages.

    15. Re: 3x by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      apple has been lying in their ads since forever
      https://www.wired.com/2008/12/apple-says-cust/

    16. Re:3x by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And I believe is the resolution of some of the ipads, so many app developers already have image assets at this x3 size.

  3. nice by blog2017 · · Score: 1
  4. Was ready to upgrade by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    But the price, the absence of TouchID, and the rumors that they didnâ(TM)t add TouchID because they run out of time, which makes me believe that the usual 1st gen problems will may be worse in this case, made me reconsider and think it may be a good idea to wait for iPhone Xs or whatever the 2nd gen will be called.

  5. I'm curious about the facial recognition by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Initial rumors were they couldn't get TouchID working without an actual home button, and facial recognition was a fallback. I have a hard time seeing how that won't be a big step backward... so I'll be curious to see the announcement on Tuesday AND how well (or how poorly) it works in the real world.

    TouchID works quite well, so the bar is pretty high.

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    1. Re:I'm curious about the facial recognition by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Amazing how they're thinking about ways to clear out the ephemeral keys by mashing the power button, but don't have the common fucking sense to understand how facial definition might be an issue. Hold still while we unlock your phone.

    2. Re:I'm curious about the facial recognition by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If someone punches me and steals my phone, and I get it back, will my swollen face unlock it?

    3. Re:I'm curious about the facial recognition by doctorvo · · Score: 2

      Initial rumors were they couldn't get TouchID working without an actual home button

      They might have a look at the dozens of Android phones that manage to do just that.

    4. Re:I'm curious about the facial recognition by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Hopefully not. Because then all they have to do is beat you senseless, unlock your phone by pointing it at your unconscious face and deactivate the facial recognition feature to take it home.

      Gee, and I thought the fingerprint sensor was easy to fool. Had I known Apple would give phone thieves a better feature just one generation later, I wouldn't have invested the effort to develop something.

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    5. Re:I'm curious about the facial recognition by mean+pun · · Score: 1

      Hopefully not. Because then all they have to do is beat you senseless, unlock your phone by pointing it at your unconscious face and deactivate the facial recognition feature to take it home.

      Gee, and I thought the fingerprint sensor was easy to fool. Had I known Apple would give phone thieves a better feature just one generation later, I wouldn't have invested the effort to develop something.

      Uhm, how is this worse than fingerprints? Before this `all you ha[d] to do' was beat you senseless, unlock your phone by using your unconscious finger, and deactivate.

      For rather extreme values of 'all they have to do', of course, because this is kind of assault is quite prone to draw the attention of any passers-by.

    6. Re:I'm curious about the facial recognition by Totally_Tux · · Score: 1

      Disabling Touch ID on my iPhone 6S requires an additional password/passcode to be entered prior to Touch ID deactivation.

      Whether it is using your face or your finger to unlock a phone, both require access to the physical person.

      The big advantage that I can see with Face ID, is that it'll work even when my hands are damp (e.g. working in the kitchen preparing a meal based on a recipe off my iPad). Touch ID does not work when your fingers are wet/damp.

      I'm curious to find out where Face ID will not work (e.g. when I'm wearing sunglasses, does facial hair growth matter, etc..).

    7. Re:I'm curious about the facial recognition by sheramil · · Score: 1

      Amazing how they're thinking about ways to clear out the ephemeral keys by mashing the power button, but don't have the common fucking sense to understand how facial definition might be an issue. Hold still while we unlock your phone.

      Hold still while I cut your face off with this skinning knife, and use it to unlock your phone.

    8. Re:I'm curious about the facial recognition by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Touch ID on the Pixel fucking sucks. You have to hold it a certain way and uncomfortably slide you index finger under the back of the phone. It works well enough, but trying to reach it is an unpleasant experience similar to nails on a chalk board.

    9. Re:I'm curious about the facial recognition by UnknowingFool · · Score: 1

      The technology that is being discussed is fingerprint recognition without a visible sensor with the screen doing the work. The Home button on the iPhone doubled as the fingerprint sensor. On Android, there still is a fingerprint sensor but requires a visible sensor whether on the back or the Home button.

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    10. Re:I'm curious about the facial recognition by that+this+is+not+und · · Score: 1

      You need the skull, or at least the front half of it, to form the 'facial tissue' over the bone structure.

      If you're going to cut their face off, better just to behead them. Plus, there's a long tradition behind beheading, whereas 'Steal Your Face' wasn't released until 1976.

    11. Re:I'm curious about the facial recognition by UnknowingFool · · Score: 1

      [sarcasm]Because grabbing someone's hand to unlock a phone while restraining them adds layers of unsolvable difficulty to the problem.[/sarcasm] If someone is already in physical custody, both facial recognition and fingerprint scans fail equally.

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    12. Re:I'm curious about the facial recognition by Hognoxious · · Score: 2

      They want my fingers? They'll have to pry them from my cold ... dead ...

      Oh, fuck it.

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    13. Re:I'm curious about the facial recognition by doctorvo · · Score: 1

      No, the "technology being discussed" was "having a fingerprint sensor without an actual home button". Android solved that problem simply and efficiently by putting the sensor on the back, a solution that Apple could have adopted as well.

    14. Re:I'm curious about the facial recognition by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Which brings this to mind.

    15. Re:I'm curious about the facial recognition by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 1

      Welcome to Slashdot, Nicholas Cage!

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    16. Re:I'm curious about the facial recognition by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The implementation of their facial recognition will probably not require a real face. Just as the fingerprint scanner promised us a real finger would be needed and was defeated by a fucking gummy bear...

      People don't seem to get it. Biometrics is a terrible authentication method; you cannot replace the information if something goes missing or is incorrectly implemented, and it's buggy as fuck. How many times does your finger prints reader incorrectly say it's not you?

    17. Re:I'm curious about the facial recognition by UnknowingFool · · Score: 1

      I don't consider moving the sensor to the back as either "simple or efficient". And what do you say about the models of Androids that have a front fingerprint sensor that doubles as a home button.?

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    18. Re:I'm curious about the facial recognition by exomondo · · Score: 1

      I have a hard time seeing how that won't be a big step backward... so I'll be curious to see the announcement on Tuesday AND how well (or how poorly) it works in the real world.

      I'm sure if you're holding the phone in front of your face it probably works quite well but if you do things like unlocking your phone while it's sitting on the table then it's unlikely to work well at all. Have they got it to work reliably and securely when you're wearing a hat and/or glasses? I'm sure they've got some method to work around that but as you say, these are the sorts of scenarios where touchid works very well.

    19. Re:I'm curious about the facial recognition by doctorvo · · Score: 1

      And what do you say about the models of Androids that have a front fingerprint sensor that doubles as a home button.?

      I think they copied a bad design decision from the iPhone.

    20. Re:I'm curious about the facial recognition by UnknowingFool · · Score: 1

      But that kinda destroys your premise right?

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    21. Re:I'm curious about the facial recognition by doctorvo · · Score: 1

      My premise isn't a pissing contest between Android and iPhone, my premise is that putting the fingerprint sensor on the back of the phone is a good design decision.

    22. Re:I'm curious about the facial recognition by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Right - yes when it's in a car dock that really convenient

    23. Re: I'm curious about the facial recognition by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Aria Stark - is that you?

    24. Re:I'm curious about the facial recognition by UnknowingFool · · Score: 1

      And that's your opinion. Other people disagree strongly with that opinion. There are known issues with placing it on the rear; that's why some Androids opt to put it in the front.

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    25. Re:I'm curious about the facial recognition by doctorvo · · Score: 1

      And that's your opinion. Other people disagree strongly with that opinion. There are known issues with placing it on the rear

      There are "known issues" with placing it anywhere; we call that a "tradeoff".

      Android got rid of the home button a while ago, placed the fingerprint sensor on the back, and has given people a variety of additional biometric identification options (face, voice, etc.) and context options (device nearby, network nearby, location, etc.).

      iPhone is getting rid of the home button now, removing the fingerprint sensor altogether, and gives people face unlock.

      Apple is simply following the same path as Android in terms of getting rid of physical buttons. Like Google, Apple discovered that there was no place for the fingerprint sensor in front, but unlike Google, Apple just dumped the fingerprint sensor instead of placing it in back, leaving Apple users with just face identification for biometrics. Now line up your camera and smile.

    26. Re:I'm curious about the facial recognition by ctilsie242 · · Score: 1

      TouchID works, but other makers have caught up. I bought a cheapie LG Stylo 3 phone, and its fingerprint recognition is very solid. My older HTC A9 has both fingerprint recognition and facial recognition (where you can optionally set it to require that you blink before it will unlock.)

      Facial recognition may be OK for some, but I prefer a dedicated action to unlock my device like hitting a button. That way, I'm assured the phone is locked unless I explicitly unlock it, as opposed to just holding it up to read an entry on the notifications screen.

      I hope Apple keeps TouchID, especially with regards to things like Apple Pay.

    27. Re:I'm curious about the facial recognition by UnknowingFool · · Score: 1

      Android got rid of the home button a while ago, placed the fingerprint sensor on the back, and has given people a variety of additional biometric identification options (face, voice, etc.) and context options (device nearby, network nearby, location, etc.).

      That's not factually true. Some models of Android phones do not have the home button. But Android did not get "rid" of it as you claim. The current flagship model HTC U11, as well as certain Samsung phones still clearly have a home button.

      Apple is simply following the same path as Android in terms of getting rid of physical buttons.

      Again you can still get current Android phones with many physical buttons so that's not true either.

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    28. Re:I'm curious about the facial recognition by doctorvo · · Score: 1

      Seriously? You want to debate the semantics of "getting rid of the home button"? Get fucking real.

    29. Re:I'm curious about the facial recognition by UnknowingFool · · Score: 1

      There's a huge difference between Android now includes an option not to use a home button and Android getting "rid" of it. One is true. The other is not especially when Android is so varied between manufacturers and models with some models having more buttons than others. Just like saying "PC MB manufacturers have added USB 3.0" is not the same as "PC MB manufacturers have gotten rid of PS/2".

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    30. Re:I'm curious about the facial recognition by doctorvo · · Score: 1

      Again... You want to debate the semantics of "getting rid of the home button"? Get fucking real.

    31. Re:I'm curious about the facial recognition by UnknowingFool · · Score: 1

      You said : "Android got rid of the home button a while ago". That is past tense. And a lie.

      Android did not get rid of anything. No part of Oreo removed the home button. The future of Android someday might head that way but for now the home button is still part of Android as evidenced by the many models released this year that have it. Either you don't know what the words "got rid of" mean or again you are in denial about the state of Android. And lying about it. As an analogy, PCs got rid of the Serial Port, Game Port, and Parallel port. Apple got rid of ADB ports. None of them "got rid" of USB

      You also don't seem to understand the words "some", "most", or "all". Some Android models have a home button. That's a fact. Most Androids vary in terms of features. That's a fact. All Androids support a home button in the code. Fact.

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    32. Re:I'm curious about the facial recognition by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You said : "Android got rid of the home button a while ago". That is past tense. And a lie [...] You also don't seem to understand the words "some", "most", or "all".

      No, you seem to have trouble with those words.

      In this context, "Android got rid of the home button a while ago" = "The Android OS demonstrated the ability to operate without a home button, unlike Apple, which seems to have trouble figuring this out."

      Geez, you Apple fanbois, ignorant and stupid as ever.

  6. While it charges.... by thesupraman · · Score: 1

    Well, they will need something to do while they are waiting to 'watch the battery fill up' when on wireless charging, since wireless generally charges at a fraction of the wires charge rates ;) They shouldn't have to watch and wait more than a few hours....

    But hey, its a new iPhone! The media just cannot contain their gushing over any tiny change, because it just HAS to be revolutionary.

    Still, a whole lot of people will no doubt suddently realise that their year or two old phone, that was working perfectly well last week is suddenly THE thing that is holding them back from climbing mountains on warm spring mornings with perfect model like looks, and rush out and purchase one.

    1. Re:While it charges.... by rmdingler · · Score: 1

      Well, they will need something to do while they are waiting to 'watch the battery fill up' when on wireless charging, since wireless generally charges at a fraction of the wires charge rates ;) They shouldn't have to watch and wait more than a few hours....

      That's the thing, isn't it? People with access to the Smartphone Club need something to do while they're waiting on, well, literally everything; a turd to crown, the light to turn green, the boss to come back around.

      We have to ask ourselves what's been lost... think of the poor magazine salesmen who are out of work now that waiting rooms don't have to be stocked with their wares.

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    2. Re:While it charges.... by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 1

      Well, they will need something to do while they are waiting to 'watch the battery fill up' when on wireless charging, since wireless generally charges at a fraction of the wires charge rates ;) They shouldn't have to watch and wait more than a few hours....

      Marketing beats technology, I guess. Horrible efficiency, and no other advantage other than fixing the first world problem of it being too much trouble to plug the phone in. The real answer to that problem is the venerable old charging dock. And it causes more problems, by putting components that should be in a charger - inside the phone.

      Which then creates conflicts with another marketing demand, longer battery life, as space is used by the second half of the charger now inside the phone.

      But hey, its a new iPhone! The media just cannot contain their gushing over any tiny change, because it just HAS to be revolutionary.

      While a nice meme, I read it as Apple "catching up"

      Still, a whole lot of people will no doubt suddently realise that their year or two old phone, that was working perfectly well last week is suddenly THE thing that is holding them back from climbing mountains on warm spring mornings with perfect model like looks, and rush out and purchase one.

      Most of my Android using buddies get a new phone once a year or less. Some complain about how much I spent for my iPhone, while ignoring that overall, they spend a hellava lot more than me.Apple versus Android, Chevy versus Ford. Its the same thing, except a lot of Android fans don't understand they are guilty of what they accuse Apple fanbois of doing.

      FWIW, I tend to skip a generation. Started on an iPhone 5, now have a 7.

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    3. Re:While it charges.... by Moridineas · · Score: 1

      FWIW, I tend to skip a generation. Started on an iPhone 5, now have a 7.

      Ditto. Started with 3gs, kept it for 3 years and got a 5. Kept that for 3 years and got a 6s. The 6s battery kind of sucks, but I'll keep it until I really feel like I have to upgrade. You don't _have_ to upgrade every year or two.

    4. Re:While it charges.... by tsqr · · Score: 1

      Well, they will need something to do while they are waiting to 'watch the battery fill up' when on wireless charging, since wireless generally charges at a fraction of the wires charge rates ;) They shouldn't have to watch and wait more than a few hours....

      Sounds as if you've never used wireless charging. The charging rate isn't significantly slower than wired charging, in my experience. Wireless is much more convenient at work, where you just set your phone down on the charging pad when you're not using it, and grab it and go when you need to leave your desk. The phone's always charged, and you're not messing about with cables. And of course, you aren't forced to use wireless charging if you don't care for it. The cost differential between having wireless charging and not having it in a phone is a few bucks at most. Choice, as usual, is a good thing.

      The most troubling thing about Apple's implementation? From TFA: Japanese tech news site Macotakara reported last month that the new iPhones would charge at 7.5 watts, half the current Qi standard and would not be compatible with existing Qi charging pads. Only Apple-certified recharging equipment will work with the new iPhones, according to the report. So the $8 charging pad I've been using for 1-1/2 years with my Android phone won't work with the iPhone, and the (most likely expensive) iPhone-compatible charger is indeed much slower than wired charging. Thanks, Apple!

    5. Re: While it charges.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Right.

      So what you're saying is that what i-fanbois accuse a-fanbois of (bring unable to afford bdue to being poor, undoubtedly trotting out the "play store makes less money") is completely wrong.

      If you're either making it up, then you have a massive statistical anomaly on your hands. Most people don't upgrade every year (unless their carrier hides the true cost)

    6. Re: While it charges.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      To be fair, most i users are use to crap charging rates -- The phone comes with a bog standard 1 amp \ 5v (i.e. 5 watts), whereas everyone else includes 2.4a (12w)

      If the 7.5w thing is true, uninformed (i.e. most) users will feel like it's faster.

    7. Re:While it charges.... by Known+Nutter · · Score: 1

      Yes, you do, citizen.

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    8. Re:While it charges.... by Paradise+Pete · · Score: 1

      think of the poor magazine salesmen who are out of work now that waiting rooms don't have to be stocked with their wares.

      Poor Goofus and Gallant. Working as Walmart greeters now I hear.

    9. Re: While it charges.... by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 1

      Right.

      So what you're saying is that what i-fanbois accuse a-fanbois of (bring unable to afford bdue to being poor, undoubtedly trotting out the "play store makes less money") is completely wrong.

      If you're either making it up, then you have a massive statistical anomaly on your hands. Most people don't upgrade every year (unless their carrier hides the true cost)

      I'm saying that there are fanbois on both sides, irrational people who need to hate because they need to hate, and just like anything else, their hatred serves some function.

      I don't hate any of them, but am astute enough tto know when people are acting like assholes.

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    10. Re:While it charges.... by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 1

      FWIW, I tend to skip a generation. Started on an iPhone 5, now have a 7.

      Ditto. Started with 3gs, kept it for 3 years and got a 5. Kept that for 3 years and got a 6s. The 6s battery kind of sucks, but I'll keep it until I really feel like I have to upgrade. You don't _have_ to upgrade every year or two.

      I try to explain this to people. You can have a lot more money in hand if you skip a generation of electronics, or keep your car longer, but I guess many people are like crows, and attracted to shiny objects.

      I've found the 7 to be a nice phone, even if it doesn't have the ancient headphone jack (guess I'm doing some trolling for AC's here) The 5 I traded in was nice too, but it was at one of those good deal times. My son is on our family plan, and he wanted a Samsung. And he paid more than I did even with his trade-in - oops, there I go trolling AC's again.

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    11. Re:While it charges.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You seem like the kind of asshole that trolls everyone. Not just ACs.

    12. Re:While it charges.... by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 1

      You seem like the kind of asshole that trolls everyone. Not just ACs.

      Rarely, because AC's are much funnier when you troll them.

      And yes - I am an asshole, so it is no insult to me.

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    13. Re:While it charges.... by Moridineas · · Score: 1

      Yes, I do. (heads to Apple Store)

    14. Re:While it charges.... by Moridineas · · Score: 1

      My wife has a 7--I'm not at all fond of the "button" or haptic touch pad whatever the hell it is. I guess I won't have to worry about that with the next generation of iPhone doing away with the thing entirely!

    15. Re: While it charges.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Your wife enjoys the 7... inches I slip her when you're not around.

    16. Re: While it charges.... by Moridineas · · Score: 1

      I guess sometimes she feels like something smaller than what she's used to. Ayo....

    17. Re:While it charges.... by ctilsie242 · · Score: 1

      If you have a 6s, there is a battery recall program going on, because the 6s battery does suck. Check your serial number and go and get yourself a replacement battery if needed.

    18. Re:While it charges.... by ctilsie242 · · Score: 1

      I'm the same way. Ideally, I prefer being on the 4s/5s/6s side of Apple's cycle when it comes to new devices, just because the form factor and most of the engineering is already done, so the device is mainly issue fixes that can't be retrofitted (better antenna placement on the 4s, stiffer aluminum on the 6s, etc.)

      The only exception to this seems to be this year. If Apple is going with a new design, it might be good to wait a year. Plus, Apple tends to up storage capacity then as well, so the phone may have 512GB of usable storage.

    19. Re:While it charges.... by torkus · · Score: 1

      Apple wouldn't be stupid enough to go and re-design a changing method when there are already standards and hardware all over the environment. They wouldn't throw away everything the entire industry has built before they decided to jump on the bandwagon just so they can have a proprietary standard unique to them.

      Now...am I talking about lightning or wireless charging? (or headphones ports)

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    20. Re: While it charges.... by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 1

      I guess sometimes she feels like something smaller than what she's used to. Ayo....

      Boom! Well played, sir, well played indeed!

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    21. Re:While it charges.... by Moridineas · · Score: 1

      I actually am part of the 6s battery recall. Apparently the recall is in effect for 3 years from the date of purchase and I'm _mostly_ able to make it through the day now, so I'm waiting a little bit longer to take mine in for the recall.

    22. Re: While it charges.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I love the fact that I have no idea what trolling is and how much it seems to affect people on virtual websites. I find it funny that we all feel the need to comment on something and that we will actually forget we even did so in less than a few months time. But I guess we're all first worlders and bored. But seriously, I'm not really sure what this trolling thing is about. I could google it, but I'm just not interested. And the best part is that I will never even be back to see anything posted in response to this little comment I made in a little window on a virtual internet. People are strange aren't we?

  7. Overhyped equal disappointment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The trouble is Apple over promises so much these days it just ends up disappointing most everyone. Never seen so much planned leaks just to try and spur on interest in what's going to be just another new iPhone. IOS 11 from my perspective having used it for weeks is just a mid level refresh. Probably do more to upset people with changes then any new features it offers.

    1. Re: Overhyped equal disappointment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And which part of what has been announced is not available in Samsung Galaxy S8?

    2. Re: Overhyped equal disappointment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      On my iPhone 6 the iOS 11 beta 9 fixed the gps bug introduced in 10.3.3 and also increased my wifi range. So itâ(TM)s basically a 1.8 gb bug fix.

  8. iPhone's facial recognition tech to unlock by aepervius · · Score: 1

    Great. I am now on android for the rest of my life.

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    1. Re:iPhone's facial recognition tech to unlock by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 1

      Until they all copy that feature, which by that time all the Android fanboys will say Apple copied the feature from Android.

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  9. can't admit a mistake by doctorvo · · Score: 1

    The problem with the fingerprint sensors on the iPhone is that it's on the home button, or alternatively, that the home/unlock button is in the front. The location on the back, as on Android phones, may seem less natural but is more convenient. Rather than admit their mistake and simply move the sensor to the back, Apple is pouting.

    1. Re:can't admit a mistake by martinX · · Score: 1

      How does a back sensor work in conjunction with a phone case?

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    2. Re:can't admit a mistake by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      By making a case that has a hole in the relevant spot. Duh.

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    3. Re:can't admit a mistake by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You have to but the new and more expensive case that has a hole in the back, of course.

    4. Re:can't admit a mistake by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      Same way as the headphone jack, microphone, speaker, usb socket, buttons, camera, temperature sensor, barometer, pulse oximeter and fingerprint sensors on the back work.

    5. Re:can't admit a mistake by Bill+Hayden · · Score: 1

      Why would anyone want a phone unlock on the back of the phone? The most common place for me to unlock my phone is when it sitting flat on my desk.

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    6. Re:can't admit a mistake by doctorvo · · Score: 1

      Android phones tend to be unlocked by proximity in that situation.

    7. Re:can't admit a mistake by Solandri · · Score: 1

      By putting a cutout on the back of the case. You know, like the non-functional cutout on many iPhone cases to let you see the Apple logo.

    8. Re:can't admit a mistake by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 2

      So to unlock your phone you... put your finger into it's back hole? Sounds kinky.

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    9. Re:can't admit a mistake by UnknowingFool · · Score: 1

      So your solution to an obvious problem is to turn bypass the security mechanism altogether?

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    10. Re:can't admit a mistake by that+this+is+not+und · · Score: 1

      The hole on the back of an Apple gadget's case is positioned to show off the large Apple logo on the back of the phone. Using it for practical reasons would go against Apple Design Standards.

    11. Re:can't admit a mistake by doctorvo · · Score: 1

      I'm just telling you how many people use Android and what they find convenient. You can also use face unlock if you like; many modern Android phones have it.

    12. Re:can't admit a mistake by UnknowingFool · · Score: 1

      No, what you're saying is to overcome a problem with the fingerprint on the back (which means I have to pick up the phone to unlock it), I should bypass security completely.

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    13. Re:can't admit a mistake by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My dick aches when I think about a new iPhone. My pee-pee is twitching like a salted slug. I'm going to have to go beat-off now. The iExcitement is too much!

    14. Re:can't admit a mistake by doctorvo · · Score: 1

      I have no opinion on what "you should do". For all I know, a rotary phone is ideal for you.

      I'm telling you what people tend to do, and it's different from what you do,.

    15. Re:can't admit a mistake by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It is no more convenient than having sensor on the front. Whenever I try to unlock my son's Android phone with fingerprint sensor on the back, it is annoyingly inconvenient.

    16. Re:can't admit a mistake by UnknowingFool · · Score: 1

      Why is it hard for you to admit that this is a problem with having a fingerprint on the back of the phone? Are you in that much denial of the problem?

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    17. Re:can't admit a mistake by doctorvo · · Score: 1

      I'm telling you from first hand experience: the fingerprint sensor on the front of the iPhone sucks. In fact, so does the home button itself.

    18. Re:can't admit a mistake by UnknowingFool · · Score: 1

      I'm telling you from firsthand experience, the rear fingerprint sensor on some Androids suck. The front facing ones are better.

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    19. Re:can't admit a mistake by doctorvo · · Score: 1

      I'm telling you from firsthand experience, the rear fingerprint sensor on some Androids suck. The front facing ones are better.

      I seriously doubt you use both iPhone and Android on a daily basis. In any case, it's not the choice you get anyway. Apple is simply following Google's design lead, just a couple of years late. Unlike Android phones, it looks like the iPhone will end up with only face unlock and no fingerprint sensor at all.

    20. Re:can't admit a mistake by UnknowingFool · · Score: 1

      I seriously doubt you use an iPhone daily.

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    21. Re:can't admit a mistake by doctorvo · · Score: 1

      Well, your nick says it all: "UnknowingFool".

    22. Re:can't admit a mistake by UnknowingFool · · Score: 1

      You're arguing a fact. It's a fact that you have to pick up a phone with a rear fingerprint sensor to unlock it. That's a fact. You've spent multiple posts in complete denial of a fact.

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    23. Re:can't admit a mistake by doctorvo · · Score: 1

      No, what we are talking about is what to do with the fingerprint sensor once you have already decided you are going to get rid of a physical home button. Android found a good place for it that works well in most situations, while Apple just got rid of it.

      The fact you keep obsessing about is simply irrelevant.

    24. Re:can't admit a mistake by UnknowingFool · · Score: 1

      No, what we are talking about is what to do with the fingerprint sensor once you have already decided you are going to get rid of a physical home button.

      No my question specifically was how do you unlock an Android with a rear-facing fingerprint sensor if your phone is lying down. Your solution was to bypass the security altogether. So that's factually a problem with putting the sensor on the back which you won't acknowledge.

      Android found a good place for it that works well in most situations, while Apple just got rid of it.

      On one model. They got rid of it on one model. Please be clear on your facts.

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    25. Re:can't admit a mistake by doctorvo · · Score: 1

      No my question specifically was how do you unlock an Android with a rear-facing fingerprint sensor if your phone is lying down. Your solution was to bypass the security altogether

      No, my solution is to pick it up, like normal people do.

    26. Re:can't admit a mistake by UnknowingFool · · Score: 1

      That's not a solution for people who want to keep their phones secure. That's bypassing the security. If I said that my front door lock is hard to open when it rains, would your solution be: Well just keep the door open when it rains.

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    27. Re:can't admit a mistake by doctorvo · · Score: 1

      That's not a solution for people who want to keep their phones secure.

      How is picking up your f*cking phone like normal people do and using the fingerprint sensor on the back "not a solution"?

  10. It's easy to predict the next iPhone's features by elrous0 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Just look at the list of features on a good Android phone from a year ago and then double the price. Bingo!

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    1. Re:It's easy to predict the next iPhone's features by Opportunist · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You forgot to remove a feature people actually used and replace it with some stupid gimmick nobody asked for to give tech journalists something to write about.

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    2. Re:It's easy to predict the next iPhone's features by elrous0 · · Score: 2

      Yeah, "The new iPhone comes with an automatic feature that locates nearby restaurants when it hears your stomach growl" should get you at least 10 fawning articles in Wired and several segments on The Tonight Show where a half-drunk Jimmy Fallon calls it the greatest thing ever.

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    3. Re:It's easy to predict the next iPhone's features by MrKaos · · Score: 1

      Fuck you man, We worked hard on that predictive acne app in the facial recognition software for the iPhony. How can you say that's a gimmick?

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    4. Re:It's easy to predict the next iPhone's features by gumbi+west · · Score: 1

      There is also removing the POS android OS. On my Nexus shit crashes all the time and when I click on the google app mic icon the Google app opens and then instantly closes. I have to wait for this to happen and then click it a second time to get the app to work--great UI, Google!

      Now, vote me down, I'm going against the slashdot norms.

    5. Re:It's easy to predict the next iPhone's features by that+this+is+not+und · · Score: 1

      The problem is, acne victims are teens, and the teens have all figured out that the iPhone is the Mom Phone.

    6. Re:It's easy to predict the next iPhone's features by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Coz, "Courage". Fullstop.

  11. OMG!!!111!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I just shat my pants and came at the same time!! Apple are releasing a phone and it has FEATURES!!!!

    1. Re:OMG!!!111!! by MalachiK · · Score: 1

      Yeah. Are we expected to react like they just cured cancer or something?

  12. Sounds like more Courage by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sounds like more Courage . Like an inspiring commercial promoting water proof showing a road racing bicycle rider about to go for a ride in lightning and heavy rain. What was the intended message? If the iPhone 7 survives the wipe out and possible lighting strike and rider still conscious can call for help coz water proof?
    There are better use cases for a water proof phone than a dangerous bike ride in lightning and rain. Don't think those customers will long term unless it's from their recovery rooms.

  13. What people think of me... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've always people think of me as a smiling pile of poo, now I can make it really happen!

  14. If Apple were a democracy ... by mikael · · Score: 4, Funny

    and compromises had to be made, the iPhone would look like this:

    https://i.redditmedia.com/i2AK...

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    1. Re:If Apple were a democracy ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      looks pretty good to me. Make it so

    2. Re:If Apple were a democracy ... by MrKaos · · Score: 1

      There is no whammy bar on it!

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    3. Re: If Apple were a democracy ... by Archvile7 · · Score: 1

      A view master? Fucking sold.

    4. Re:If Apple were a democracy ... by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 1

      No S-Video output? WTF Apple?

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    5. Re:If Apple were a democracy ... by elistan · · Score: 2

      Less storage than a Nomad? Lame.

    6. Re:If Apple were a democracy ... by that+this+is+not+und · · Score: 1

      That's a two pound dongle that plugs into the RCA jacks. Self powered, it uses two 'C' cells and has a battery life of 45 minutes.

    7. Re:If Apple were a democracy ... by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      ... and costs 300 bucks.

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    8. Re:If Apple were a democracy ... by mikael · · Score: 1

      Missing a SCART connector as well.

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    9. Re:If Apple were a democracy ... by chihowa · · Score: 1

      That's a two pound dongle that plugs into the RCA jacks. Self powered, it uses two 'C' cells and has a battery life of 45 minutes.

      That's way too user friendly. It has to use an odd number of obscure batteries: Three C cells, one 6V lantern battery, or a stack of 15 coin cells. A different model for each battery type and each one costs $49.

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    10. Re:If Apple were a democracy ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No AppleTalk. Huge failure.

    11. Re:If Apple were a democracy ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      https://i.redditmedia.com/i2AKHnMHyByc-yj8cBgxiOw-5aVO_zJdsr6Kf7ZhgPI.jpg?w=506&s=8c43426b5805d7f7c72949b68d672a3c

      Those XLR inputs would actually be handy for audio and video interviews!

  15. Will the masses burn out from this churn? by swb · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It seems more and more obvious that the utility value for smartphones generally peaked some time ago - messaging/email, web, photos and apps to some degree anywhere you are seems like the primary utility function of the smartphone.

    Yet companies like Apple are on this business treadmill where they think they have to re-invent it every year in order to keep selling phones. They mostly coasted on the fact that the next model improved some aspects -- CPU, storage, photo quality -- some noticeable increment, but they didn't really increase the basic utility value.

    It really seems like they've hit the point where not even technical incremental improvement adds very much, and now they're needlessly altering the experience just to sell new phones.

    Maybe this works with some segment of the population, but will people generally start rebelling against this? Most of these changes don't seem like a better experience, at best the *same* experience that requires re-learning, at worst a lesser experience.

    1. Re:Will the masses burn out from this churn? by mikael · · Score: 1

      That's been the trend for 20+ years for the general consumer market. First there were 8-bit home computers (1980's), desktop PC (1990's). Once 3D graphics took off (1999 onwards), the mass market trend was for sub $600 desktop PC's (2000's) as vendors faced ever tighter profit margins. These were replaced by laptops and netbooks and smartphones (2005+) with wireless broadband. Back then, people in SF were complaining that they didn't see everyone else carrying laptops with them to the cafes, just their smartphones.

      There are always going to people who are going to buying their first smartphone, or they've dropped their current one into the bay. The semiconductor companies are constantly innovating their technology from optimizing the silicon layouts to reduce power, small transistor sizes, better compression algorithms, antennae designs, higher resolution camera CCD's, screens. Ultimately they'll move to 3D digital photography, augmented reality and holographic displays.

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    2. Re:Will the masses burn out from this churn? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The "masses" are buying cheaper Android phones based on sales numbers. The high dollar Samsung Galaxy and Apple iPhone brands are a smaller percentage of the total. The newer features are added to the expensive phones first, eventually making their way to cheaper alternatives.

      People may keep their phones longer than before, but that's no reason not to keep innovating even if it's evolutionary rather than revolutionary.

    3. Re:Will the masses burn out from this churn? by ljw1004 · · Score: 1

      They mostly coasted on the fact that the next model improved some aspects -- CPU, storage, photo quality -- some noticeable increment, but they didn't really increase the basic utility value. It really seems like they've hit the point where not even technical incremental improvement adds very much, and now they're needlessly altering the experience just to sell new phones.

      What?? I'm personally a Windows Phone fan (well I was until that died and I reluctantly switched to Apple) but I think basic utility is definitely helped by the few changes we saw:

      * Wireless charging. Sometimes lint gets stuck and I can't charge. Often I just forget to charge my phone. When I had a micro-usb adapter I'd wear out about one cable a year, and once the port on my phone just got too damaged and I had to get a new phone. The lightning port doesn't seem quite as fragile, but even so I'm excited about this.

      * Face log-in. I love it on my Windows machine. Touch ID frustrates the heck out of me because it fails 20+ times a day (usually due to not scrupulously dry fingers, or using the phone with a finger or toe that I haven't registered due to my other hands being occupied holding my toddlers). It also interferes with the when you want to grab your phone and take a photo instantly, another toddler-related need. It took me about 5 months to of iphoning to learn the muscle memory rule "DON'T press the home button (because it's too prone to failing to log you in and by that time you'll have lost the shot); instead pick the phone up, wait for the motion sensor to realize it's moved, then swipe left to get to the camera".

      * Less bevel. Yes I am eager to be able to read more words per line on Kindle when I go to bed. It's a trade-off between "wanting bigger screen for kindle and movies" vs "wanting smaller phone for everyday use and fitting in pocket". This is a minor technical improvement sure but I welcome it.

      As for the depth sensor? It feels like there'll be useful apps coming out of this (e.g. the virtual tape measure app) but it's too early to tell.

    4. Re:Will the masses burn out from this churn? by gumbi+west · · Score: 1

      It does. Look at desktop and laptops. People still want the latest one, but they haven't changed anything but the display connector and video board for about 10 years.

    5. Re:Will the masses burn out from this churn? by UnknowingFool · · Score: 1

      And if they just kept making the same model for a few years, do you think anyone will buy it? Sure the improvements now are not as far reaching as in the early years but there are still minor improvements to be made. CPUs for example are starting to peak in terms of power. While they can introduce more powerful ones, the ones that are currently being used are powerful enough for most things. Where it seems to be going is that one day maybe your smart phone will be your computer/laptop. The UI is the last hurdle.

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    6. Re:Will the masses burn out from this churn? by UnknowingFool · · Score: 1

      Well going from HDDs to solid state memory is a major improvement, I think. CPUs with integrated GPUs has come a long way. Before you had to have a discrete GPU even in laptops. Wifi chipsets taking less power and space, etc. So some progress is being made.

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    7. Re:Will the masses burn out from this churn? by Moridineas · · Score: 1

      Yet companies like Apple are on this business treadmill where they think they have to re-invent it every year in order to keep selling phones. They mostly coasted on the fact that the next model improved some aspects -- CPU, storage, photo quality -- some noticeable increment, but they didn't really increase the basic utility value.

      So you think they would be better if they _didn't_ release upgrades every year?

      I would also say that Apple "re-invents" the iPhone every 2-3 years, in terms of there being larger changes to form factor, internal design, etc. The second year is usually just a refresh with better camera, CPU, etc. If you're going to complain about an incremental refresh, then I really don't understand your argument.

      iPhone 3g / 3gs (2 years)
      iPhone 4 / 4s (2 years)
      iPhone 5 / 5s (2 years)
      iPhone 6 / 6s / 7 (3 years)

    8. Re:Will the masses burn out from this churn? by Moridineas · · Score: 1

      * Wireless charging. Sometimes lint gets stuck and I can't charge. Often I just forget to charge my phone. When I had a micro-usb adapter I'd wear out about one cable a year, and once the port on my phone just got too damaged and I had to get a new phone. The lightning port doesn't seem quite as fragile, but even so I'm excited about this.

      Lightning port is pretty hardy, and a paperclip does wonder to get the lint out ;-) I generally do that about once a year.

    9. Re:Will the masses burn out from this churn? by gumbi+west · · Score: 1

      enough to justify the cost of a new machine? I can put an SSD in my 10 year old laptop. Beyond that, battery times have improved and I'm not sure I see much else. I don't do much graphics intensive and there I'm fine so long as the graphics card isn't eating my memory.

    10. Re:Will the masses burn out from this churn? by UnknowingFool · · Score: 1

      or using the phone with a finger or toe that I haven't registered . . .

      How is this Apple's fault that you didn't register all the fingers you wanted to use with Touch ID. You are allowed to register many prints.

      . It also interferes with the when you want to grab your phone and take a photo instantly, another toddler-related need

      Um, you do know you don't have to unlock your phone to take a picture, right? That's been a feature of iPhones and Androids for a while.

      . It took me about 5 months to of iphoning to learn the muscle memory rule "DON'T press the home button (because it's too prone to failing to log you in and by that time you'll have lost the shot);

      Er what? You are pressing the Home button. It's not the button to take the picture.

      instead pick the phone up, wait for the motion sensor to realize it's moved, then swipe left to get to the camera".

      So which of the steps are you complaining about? You have to pick up the phone otherwise you're taking a photo of the surface it's on (in the dark). I don't know about your phone but I never have "wait" for the motion sensor. It takes less than a second to get to the camera with all of those actions.

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    11. Re: Will the masses burn out from this churn? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      https://goo.gl/images/3hxgHe

    12. Re:Will the masses burn out from this churn? by ljw1004 · · Score: 1

      How is this Apple's fault that you didn't register all the fingers you wanted to use with Touch ID. You are allowed to register many prints.

      Umm... thanks for telling me that I'm holding my phone wrong, I guess??

      You're allowed to register five fingerprints. With my two thumbs, two index fingers and my wife's thumb, we're already maxed out.

      So which of the steps are you complaining about? You have to pick up the phone otherwise you're taking a photo of the surface it's on (in the dark). I don't know about your phone but I never have "wait" for the motion sensor. It takes less than a second to get to the camera with all of those actions.

      Try it. On my iPhone 6S, it's about two seconds from picking it up to being able to take a photo...

      Wait for motion-sensor to wake up enough that the screen allows a swipe-left: ~0.7 seconds, failure rate ~2%
      Swipe-left: ~0.4 seconds, failure rate ~5%
      Wait for phone app to be responsive: ~0.3 seconds, failure rate 0%
      Press the on-screen take-photo button: ~0.3 seconds, failure rate 0%

      Or:

      Press home button to log in: ~0.4 seconds, failure rate ~10%
      Press on-screen camera icon on the bottom bar: ~0.3 seconds, failure rate 0%
      Press on-screen take-photo button: ~0.3 seconds, failure rate 0%

      What I'm hoping with face recognition is this:

      Pick up camera and have it recognize my face en-route to my hands: ~0.4 seconds, failure rate 2%
      Press on-screen camera icon on the bottom bar: ~0.1 seconds, failure rate 0% [faster than above because I don't need to reposition my finger]
      Press on-screen take-photo button: ~0.3 seconds, failure rate 0%

    13. Re:Will the masses burn out from this churn? by UnknowingFool · · Score: 1

      enough to justify the cost of a new machine?

      You said: " they haven't changed anything but the display connector and video board for about 10 years". That is factually not true. Secondly the argument you're bringing up NOW is that these changes are not worth buying a new machine. You didn't mention that in your statement and is strictly a matter of your own personal choice and opinion.

      I don't do much graphics intensive and there I'm fine so long as the graphics card isn't eating my memory.

      Well good for you. Other people have different needs than you. Maybe that's why they've bought a new laptop in the last 10 years.

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    14. Re:Will the masses burn out from this churn? by UnknowingFool · · Score: 1

      Umm... thanks for telling me that I'm holding my phone wrong, I guess??

      Your complaint about not registering your prints to use is as silly as saying that your web accounts aren't unlocked by passwords you haven't set yet.

      Try it. On my iPhone 6S, it's about two seconds from picking it up to being able to take a photo...

      So have I. Under a second. I've tried it with other models. Under a second. I'm not sure what's wrong with your phone.

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    15. Re:Will the masses burn out from this churn? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You are missing one very important difference between the PC and the so called "smart" phone industry. It's called market lock / planned obsolescence. In the smart phone industry; the battery dies; the shrouding or screen cracks; the apps take exponentially more and more memory to run on purpose (just for emoji crap), on a very piss poor limited platform. Contracts are set to expire every two years. Software is locked down to a point that you have to do it their HW vendor's way. People have to buy phones every two years or less because they have to. And they are going to the same vendors like a battered mate because all the ads tell them Apple your god.

      In the PC world, your software and HW weren't locked and you can change it for your benefit any time. People purchased the next better thing based on real calculated improvements. This drove true innovation and rewarded those that took risks to do it. The smart phone industry is quite different than those days. I work in semiconductors, and it's very puzzling how phones have not really improved their usefulness or longevity and have not replaced PCs still, yet the price is going up and up, and PCs have relatively low prices. People need a working phone, and they will keep buying the next model regardless, and that allows the companies to slack off and not take real risks.

      There is true innovation going on out there, but it's not coming from Apple.

    16. Re:Will the masses burn out from this churn? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, people don't want the newest MacBooks. because Apple did exactly that. They altered a perfectly good computer and form factor to introduce a gimmicky "touch bar" that no one asked for. (And make it even thinner, forcing them to remove every port but Thunderbolt 3 and audio out.)

      Reception to the computer was so poor among long-time professional users that they immediately had to discount dongles, and then they later had to issue an unprecedented statement that they hadn't forgotten about their Pro users.

      TL;DR: Yes, if you fuck hard enough with a form factor and sacrifice usability for it, the users will call you out.

    17. Re:Will the masses burn out from this churn? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      iPhone 3g / 3gs (2 years)
      iPhone 4 / 4s (2 years)
      iPhone 5 / 5s (2 years)
      iPhone 6 / 6s / 7 (3 years)

      You fail your own argument. Every 2 years iPhone 6 / 6s / 7. 7? that last year the 7 was supposed to be the reinvention! Don't you see iPhone 8 will be a incremental upgrade as was 7 and so on.

      You'd have been right if the 7 was any different. Good yes, different no. Worth it if you have a 6? no not really.

    18. Re:Will the masses burn out from this churn? by Moridineas · · Score: 2

      That's what I was saying--that the iphone 6/6s/7 are all one "generation" despite the nomenclature. Apple broke the pattern there.

    19. Re:Will the masses burn out from this churn? by blindseer · · Score: 1

      You are missing one very important difference between the PC and the so called "smart" phone industry. It's called market lock / planned obsolescence.

      Is it planned? I'm pretty sure that they know that the phones the are issuing now will be obsolete in four years or so but I'm not sure that they have any kind of real plan.

      I've had cell phones for probably 20 years now and I'm on my fifth phone. I think my first phone lasted me six years but my last one barely lasted a year. I used my phones until they were ready to fall apart from wear or I had damaged it. Except that last one. My first two were old enough that I risked losing service because the old towers were getting phased out. My first phone was a "tri-mode" or something like that to cover analog and the digital services at the time. My second was a "dual-mode" in that it had analog and digital. My third was when the GPS phones were starting to be mandated. Anyway the cell company paid me to take a new phone because they didn't want to support my phone any more, it didn't have the E911 features. When I ran that through the wash I panicked and got whatever they had at the local store that was cheap, because I wasn't ready to invest in a smart phone.

      Maybe I'm on the thin edge of the bell curve in not buying a new cell phone every year or two. I have an iPhone 7 now because my iPod Touch hit the floor a bit too hard once and the screen became cracked and hard to read. So of the four phones I had two were replaced because the cell phone towers were getting upgraded to a new signal and frequency standard. Two were because of damage (one to the phone itself, the other to a "smart" pocket device that a cell phone was an obvious replacement).

      I don't know how long you expect these things to last but my experience tells me that they'll last five years or so, if not potentially much longer. That's not that bad for an electronic device, or any consumer product really. Don't think of just electronic devices, just stuff around your house. How long does a lawn mower last? A reclining chair? Things where parts don't move are pretty durable, like pots, pans, dishes, and such last a long time.

      Tell me something, how long should a cell phone last in your opinion? I have no problem making them last four years or so. Now that water resistance and durable glass is pretty standard I expect my current phone to last a very long time.

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  16. Not yet. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    When they issue a special U2 version of the iPhone, then we'll have hit rock bottom.

    1. Re: Not yet. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Bono is an animated pile of poo already

  17. SCHHHHWIIING! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Gonna get me some apple pie!

  18. "Leaks" reveal "new" features by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Fucking junkies.

  19. And.. by krouic · · Score: 1

    And nothing of value was won...

  20. Will I be able to make a phone call by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Wow, with all of those kewl features, will I be able to make a phone call with it?

    1. Re:Will I be able to make a phone call by that+this+is+not+und · · Score: 1

      There is a small lab in the back of the building on the fourth floor where 'Telephone Call Ergonomics' are considered. Twice a month, but hardly anybody shows up for the meeting.

  21. It's what's not there by MrKaos · · Score: 1

    There is absolutely no spyware on this phone at all. No seriously, fuck off, stop laffing, it's really really true. This phone respects your privacy, it really honestly does.

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  22. So ... by jon3k · · Score: 1

    "Apple's iPhone line is expected to catch up with Android phones in the area of wireless charging this year... just lay the phone down on a compatible charger mat or base or dock, and watch the battery fill up."

    So, exactly what I do already?

  23. Facial recognition without button. How? by BlackPignouf · · Score: 2

    How is facial recognition supposed to work without any button?
    Is the camera always recording and scanning even when the phone is supposedly off?

    1. Re:Facial recognition without button. How? by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 1

      Gyroscope that's been in the iPhone since... almost forever?

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    2. Re:Facial recognition without button. How? by that+this+is+not+und · · Score: 1

      Any time the phone is slightly moved, it wakes up and the reconnaissance feature resumes spying on everything you do with the camera.

  24. That makes no sense by MrKaos · · Score: 1

    The user is the product, the newest feature is more accurate data about their behavior.

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  25. Re: Sick & tired of SURVEILLANCE DEVICES by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You DO know that you can still buy a "dumb" phone, right? And that they not only work great but have much better battery life and don't break nearly as easily? And are available for under $50?

  26. Always watching by Excelcia · · Score: 1

    Better yet, a camera with 3d sensing technology that is always on and watching. That's not taking our invasion of privacy to a whole new level at all.

    1. Re:Always watching by Paradise+Pete · · Score: 1

      Better yet, a camera with 3d sensing technology that is always on and watching.

      Always on and watching? Surely not. I assume the face recognition stuff kicks in when you lift the phone. I'm hopeful that it works well enough that I can essentially just pick up the phone and start using it, even in the dark.

    2. Re:Always watching by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      For that level of convenience, you must give up all privacy.

    3. Re:Always watching by Paradise+Pete · · Score: 1

      For that level of convenience, you must give up all privacy.

      I'm not following you. Maybe you're right, but In what way is privacy being compromised?

  27. Can it make phone calls? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Everybody is talking about a portable phone yet nobody says anything about making or receiving phone calls.

    And by the way, what difference does it make to speculate about features and discuss leaks when everyone could just wait until the announcement in a few days?

    It's like trying to guess the the plot twists of an upcoming movie based on a frame-by-frame analysis of the movie trailer.

  28. data cable? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    no data cable, how I upload my 500MB Xcode app on that iPhone ? Wifi? while i'm coding in the plane?

    1. Re:data cable? by UnknowingFool · · Score: 1

      Er? The rumor is that the new iPhone will have charging without the need of a cable (wireless charging like Qi). The rumor is not that the iPhone will have no cable at all.

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    2. Re:data cable? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dongles sold separately.

  29. Re:Sick & tired of SURVEILLANCE DEVICES by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 1

    I use a phone to dial a number, speak, then hang up.

    What the AC above just told you. Get a dumb phone. Smaller, cheaper, better battery life, etc.

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  30. Why not lead to a modular bus? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A standard handheld computer should compete on a modular approach to features, as a NUMA or BEOWulf cluster doesnt need a camera or a screen on each phone stacked how-many to the ceiling. And some of us have rare peripherals where wouldbe great a modular phone coul swap unneeded hardware for an interface to said homebrew equipment; i have experimental topls still on ps2, rs422, and gpib that are low power as a phone and the added portability leaves only a netbook and bulky travelbatterybank my only option.

    or is Apple and the Android Justice League of Super Kwaii Friends just forcibly combining the DMV helpdesk with a cashless ATM and the Alibaba prison commisary vending machine and Labor Ready into one end-all be-all device?

    Is the next option a blood and urine testkit,or breath-a-lyzerd? PC Cards for laptops were mimic size to fit with credit cards in a wallet, at this rate shouldnt the handheld portable have modules the size of a Nickel and install space for eight of these options like did a homebrew era ISA Bus motherboard?

    ANSWER ME!

    1. Re: Why not lead to a modular bus? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Pass the dutchie to the left hand side my friend. You are bogarting it.

  31. This is what iFans will be fapping about ??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Thats just sad. But i guess if your stupid enough to single source your phone supplier you kinda deserve whatever phone your forced to compromise with.

  32. a brand new feature called 'Animoji' by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

    a brand new feature called 'Animoji'

    Is there a noSJW app to make it go away?

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  33. if i was apple.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    i'd throw in a headphone jack just to fuck with people.

    1. Re:if i was apple.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A proprietary jack; that requires a dongle to use a regular set of earphones.

    2. Re:if i was apple.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...because they know everyone will happily purchase that dongle.

  34. Ignore the hype... by cdreimer · · Score: 0

    I just paid off the lease balance on my iPhone 6s and cancelled the insurance to free up $30 in my budget. Since I have an older five-line plan at Sprint that cost $10 per month for each additional line, I added a new iPad (5th gen) to replace my five-year-old iPad 2. With a promotional service credit, no service activation fee and a AAA discount, the iPad will cost $30 per month. In short, my monthly bill isn't changing for the next two years.

    1. Re:Ignore the hype... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Who gives a shit? Are you new here? This is a tech website, not a personal musings and diary blog.

    2. Re:Ignore the hype... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Information about Christopher Dale Reimer and autistic people:

      Autistic people have obsessions about things normal people don't care. For example, one of our autistic patient went haywire when he realized that there was a penny missing in his pocket change.

      To calm him down, one of our educator pretended to have found it on the floor and gave a penny to him.

      The autistic patient condition went even worse because he realized it wasn't the same penny!

      Chris has an obsession with budgeting every penny. I doesn't understand that most people do not budget to the penny and have a flexible amount they allow for miscellaneous items.

      I am Nancy Guerrero and I am Director of Special Education for the Santa Clara County Office of Education. We use Chris' (a.k.a. creimer,cdreimer) picture in our document because he is the hardest case we have ever had to handle:
      http://www.sccoe.org/depts/stu...

      Our artists were inspired by the low carb diet that Christopher follows scrupulously for the small lunch box and by the picture linked below for the rest. I am sure that you will notice the similarities such as the bump on the side of his chest and more:
      https://www.cdreimer.com/slash...

      Please be easy on Christopher although, I am aware that some of our staff handling Chris post joke comments here and obvoiusly, the Santa Clara County Office of Education disapprove that behavior vehemently:
      https://school.discoveryeducat...

      But it isn't Chris' fault if he is the way he is. We do the best we can do with him and he is partially integrated into society. We try to cure his abnormal need for attention but he is kind of stubborn and won't listen to anybody.

      Thank You dear users,
      -Nancy Guerrero

    3. Re:Ignore the hype... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Exactly, we will always love you Chris. We wish you the best with that new girlfriend who drives a Subaru Forester that you met at church over the weekend.

      Take care my friend,

    4. Re:Ignore the hype... by cdreimer · · Score: 0

      Are you new here?

      Yes.

      This is a tech website, not a personal musings and diary blog.

      You mean Slashdot isn't the new Reddit?

    5. Re:Ignore the hype... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Are you new here?

      Yes."

      You're not creimer with the same exact websites and quoting style? You're a totally different and completely new person?

    6. Re:Ignore the hype... by cdreimer · · Score: 1

      You're a totally different and completely new person?

      creimer got started on Slashdot, posted 25 to 50 comments per day, and got run off by the trolls.

      cdreimer came kicking and screaming to Slashdot, post a few comments per day, and too busy to pay attention to trolls.

      If you can't tell the difference, you're probably a troll.

    7. Re:Ignore the hype... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not sure I understand. The quality of creimer's posts made him a highly rated contributor and moderator, right?

      Why would trolls run him off?

      I also thought creimer was laughing *with* the trolls? Busy doing what? Budgeting your subsistence-level existence to the nearest penny?

      So, what difference? You're the same person. If you think you're two different people, you're probably insane.

    8. Re:Ignore the hype... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...you're probably insane.

      I don't think there is any question on this...he definitely is.

    9. Re:Ignore the hype... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh shit, man. Creimer got flagged by corporate IT for wasting too much time on Slashdot all day. And he still can't kick his habit. He's like the junkie who's convinced he can TOTALLY get by with just... one... tiny... hit...

      Creimer, how's the diet going?

  35. I'll just buy a Moto E4... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...and save anywhere from $500 to $800 dollars, depending on features. I suppose businesses users might get something out of high-end phones, but the average consumer doesn't. (For instance, screen resolution/size doesn't really matter to me since I'd only ever watch high quality movies/TV shows at my desktop or on an HDTV, not on a phone.)

  36. Aiming for the moon. by DrYak · · Score: 1

    Android solved that problem simply and efficiently by putting the sensor on the back, a solution that Apple could have adopted as well.

    Apple, for once, wanted to be a bit original and have the fingerprint sensor work on the front, through the screen.
    (think all the sci-fi movie where the hero is required to place a hand on the shape drawn on the screen).
    Turns out, they didn't manage to find a way to pull this thing while fitting the ever thinner form factor

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    1. Re:Aiming for the moon. by doctorvo · · Score: 1

      My point is: the front of the phone just isn't a good place for the fingerprint sensor to begin with.

  37. All irrelevant. by cheesybagel · · Score: 1

    What everyone wants is for their phone to be as thin as a credit card and for their batteries to last for seconds, rather than minutes.

  38. burned customer. by DrYak · · Score: 1

    The rumor is not that the iPhone will have no cable at all.

    You know after the removal of the audio jack, to some past customer, that wouldn't sound that much implausible.

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    1. Re:burned customer. by UnknowingFool · · Score: 1

      So you're extrapolating of what Apple might do next on a rumor of what Apple might do next.

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  39. One missing feature... by cyn1c77 · · Score: 1

    Also, now that the phone can charge wirelessly, it also will not have any ports whatsover.

    So you will HAVE to use Apple's bluetooth headphones to talk to anyone or listen to music.

    Because courage.

  40. Presumably by easyTree · · Score: 1

    This post is one of many generated via a schedule job.

  41. Privacy Concern? by dcw3 · · Score: 2

    So what happens when a cop grabs your phone, and wants in? Does he get to just hold it up to your face to unlock it? If so, this seems like a serious flaw.

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  42. Two things by DarthVain · · Score: 1

    1) Facial recognition to unlock your phone? LOL! What could possibly go wrong. I'd imagine that it will work about as well as Siri (which is to say not very well). Might as well unlock your phone by getting in a argument with Siri and having it analyse that! :)

    2) Getting rid of home button. Good idea. Was a point of failure. Also already sort of implemented. Girlfriend broke her home button (probably though continuous usage), but was able to limp by however by adjusting the software to do it VIA the touch screen. Which was a bit of a pain in the ass as it wasn't designed very well, but probably could easily be adjusted to serve just fine. I mean most other phone have gotten rid of their physical buttons awhile ago, probably for the same reason (point of mechanical failure), I mean the last one I had that did I think was my Samsung S3...

  43. Apple vs good by DrYak · · Score: 1

    My point is: the front of the phone just isn't a good place for the fingerprint sensor to begin with.

    On the other hand, Apple was never about what is theoretically "good".
    They mostly aim for what seems intuitive to clueless newbies

    - The home button is where they put their finger anyway
    - Apple logic : let's put the fingerprint sensors there.

    - You're removing the home button and creating a "software" one displayed on the bottom of the screen ?
    - Apple logic: Then the bottom of the screen should also be a finger print sensors, because that's where you're sure to find the user's finger
    (if he isn't holding the phone "wrong" :-P )

    - Oops that last one didn't work out, let's quickly scramble to make something, let's re-use that "face recognition" idea thrown by the guys at the R&D lab.

    The rest of the planet :
    - If somebody is holding their phone in their hand, there's a high chance that they can easily reach the back with a finger.

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  44. Safe to say... by martinfb · · Score: 1

    Safe to say that it is apparent that the stretches that smartphone mfgrs have reached indicates the beginning of the end of, well, bullshit tweaks for way too much money!
    C'mon, folks. WTF?! Are you really ready to go reaching that far for bullshit?!

    How about bringing the cost to a reasonable level?!

    Dear fellow citizen: Please WAKE THE FUCK UP!

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