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Java EE Is Moving To the Eclipse Foundation (adtmag.com)

Posted by msmash on from the new-beginning dept.

Oracle has chosen the Eclipse Foundation to be the new home of the Java Platform Enterprise Edition (Java EE), the company announced this week. Oracle made the decision in collaboration with IBM and Red Hat, the two other largest contributors to the platform. From a report: "The Eclipse Foundation has strong experience and involvement with Java EE and related technologies," wrote Oracle software evangelist David Delabassee in a blog post. This will help us transition Java EE rapidly, create community-friendly processes for evolving the platform, and leverage complementary projects such as MicroProfile. We look forward to this collaboration." Mike Milinkovich, executive director of the Eclipse Foundation, is optimistic about this move, which he said is exactly what the enterprise Java needs and what the community has been hoping for.

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  1. I think it's a good choice by supertrooper · · Score: 3, Insightful

    As Eclipse IDE user maybe I'm bias, but at least things are moving in the right direction

    1. Re:I think it's a good choice by ledow · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The right direction being "Oracle washing their hands of it and having nothing more to do with it as they can't monetise it", so yes. This is definitely going in the right direction.

      At least they didn't just kill it off and bury it, like some of the other things they took over.

      Oracle's touch is like a death-knell to everything from Solaris to OpenOffice.

  2. Re:JBoss Development? by MtHuurne · · Score: 4, Insightful

    As far as I know JBoss is owned by Red Hat, so I wouldn't expect any news about it from Oracle. Since Java EE is a spec, not a code base, this move is good news for other implementations, as it means Java EE can continue without Oracle if needed.

  3. Re:I haven't used Java since my college days... by Walking+The+Walk · · Score: 2

    As a former NetBean IDE user, I find this development disturbing.

    This is just the Java EE spec moving to the Eclipse Foundation, not Java SE or the standard Java SE implementation. So while it may slightly increase Eclipse IDE adoption, the decision won't have undo impact on NetBeans, IntelliJ or other IDEs.

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  4. Total Eclipse by dmt0 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Of Sun

  5. Re:Why does a language need an "Enterprise Edition by bws111 · · Score: 3, Informative

    Java is not just a language, it is also a platform (JVM, APIs, etc). The different editions are for the plaform not the language. So there is a platform for 'normal' usage (SE), a platform for long-running, network intensive applications (EE), and a platform for lightweight use (ME).

  6. Re:Why does a language need an "Enterprise Edition by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 4, Informative

    Java is not a compiler.

    It is a huge set of specifications, a huge set of standard libraries, and a mountain of open source frameworks and platforms. And VMs ...

    SE: standard edition, mainly for desktop apps, but the line to EE is blurry
    EE: enter prise edition, defines standards for accessing DBs, do OR mapping (via annotations (*)), have annotation(*) based REST/SOAP services and build in tools to support development or out of the box deployment

    In other words, if you want to run a C++ web service, you first need a web server (extra download and install) where you can deploy your *.so/*.dll to, then you configure something that the web server knows what requests to route to your plug in.

    In Java EE, there is a build in web server, and you simply deploy the *.dll analogon (a *.war) and the server configures everything automatically, based on annotations (*)

    (*) an annotation can be considered as a smart comment. The compiler puts it into the object code and the deployment environment interprets it (with framework support) and weaves the necessary missing code around it or uses reflection to orchestrate what ever the annotations are supposed to do.

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  7. Re:Why does a language need an "Enterprise Edition by bws111 · · Score: 2

    I did answer the question. It is more than 'just libraries'. The JVM, for example, is not 'just a library'.

    The 'editions' are just specifications. They are closer to something like POSIX than 'C'. The editions specify not only the libraries, but also things like how applications should be packaged, etc. If your Java installation meets the spec for the 'edition' that is required by an application, then you can run the application WITHOUT having to install a bunch of libraries, etc.