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Every Major Advertising Group Is Blasting Apple for Blocking Cookies in the Safari Browser (adweek.com)

The biggest advertising organizations say Apple will "sabotage" the current economic model of the internet with plans to integrate cookie-blocking technology into the new version of Safari. Marty Swant, reporting for AdWeek: Six trade groups -- the Interactive Advertising Bureau, American Advertising Federation, the Association of National Advertisers, the 4A's and two others -- say they're "deeply concerned" with Apple's plans to release a version of the internet browser that overrides and replaces user cookie preferences with a set of Apple-controlled standards. The feature, which is called "Intelligent Tracking Prevention," limits how advertisers and websites can track users across the internet by putting in place a 24-hour limit on ad retargeting. In an open letter expected to be published this afternoon, the groups describe the new standards as "opaque and arbitrary," warning that the changes could affect the "infrastructure of the modern internet," which largely relies on consistent standards across websites. The groups say the feature also hurts user experience by making advertising more "generic and less timely and useful."

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  1. Can ads get any less timely and useful? by TheCastro1689 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I bought a motorcycle helmet years ago, I still get ads for the helmet and others I researched. Fucking ads suck.

    1. Re: Can ads get any less timely and useful? by alvinrod · · Score: 4, Interesting

      That reminds me of the story about Target's initial foray into targeted ads where they could tell based on search history when a user was pregnant and had some data to suggest that if they could get a new mother to start shopping at their stores she'd likely be a good longtime customer. They were worried about it appearing creepy for them to start displaying sales ads for diapers or other baby products that people hadn't looked for yet, so they through it some ringer results (like golf clubs or scotch glasses) that would make the advertising appear more random.

      Perhaps they're selectively feeding you some ads that are more relevant, but tossing in some crap like that so it doesn't appear too obvious. Or maybe someone else temporary had that IP and was making different searches with it that are influencing the results.

  2. Google, please get on board with this!!! by turp182 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Unless Apple has a patent on it...

    I have to manage enough other stuff and generally ignore cookies.

    That said, cookies do show me what my wife is shopping for on Amazon, but I don't need to see that (it is funny to call her and implicitly talk about what's she's looking at, but that only worked a couple of times).

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  3. Targeted Ads? by in10se · · Score: 5, Interesting

    If I have to see ads on a web site, my preference is that they are "generic and less timely and useful" since I'm going to ignore them anyway.

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  4. Re:It must be good then! by Dixie_Flatline · · Score: 4, Interesting

    This is really significant in a few ways:

    1) This isn't something Google can do, because obviously Google's bread and butter is ads (though, let's be real—I bet Google could do better, less disruptive advertising if they wanted to)
    2) Apple's users are disproportionately represented in online purchasing. When you see stats for online Black Friday sales, most mobile sales are on iOS devices. This makes Apple's decision hit twice as hard despite having less market share.

    I'm sure it won't be long before ad agencies come up with some other irksome method of ruining my online browsing experience, but I'm so happy someone is trying *something* to mess with these guys.

  5. Your ads hurt my user experience. by Macdude · · Score: 4, Interesting

    To the Interactive Advertising Bureau, American Advertising Federation, the Association of National Advertisers, the 4A's and two others:

    Your ads hurt my user experience.
    Your tracking hurts my privacy.
    Your infected ads hurt my computer.

    Basically, you hurt people. If you disappear that will be a good thing.

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  6. Re:Oh noes!!! by JohnFen · · Score: 4, Interesting

    It will be when most sites will become paywalled. More high quality sites will go down the drain because of the lack of funds, so they'll either have to block completely (there are some already doing this) or devolve into clickbait.

    Fine by me. Most sites -- and especially sites that rely heavily on advertising -- aren't exactly indispensible to me. The ones that are, I'm already paying cash money to.

    I think it's high time for the web to break its addiction to advertising. There are other, better, ways to pay operating costs, but none of them will be adopted as long as it's easy to do ads. I don't think that it's a coincidence that the overall quality of web offerings dropped when advertising became the predominant revenue model.

  7. Re: The varnish is off by Cyberpunk+Reality · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I think there is a legitimate market niche for advertisitng. Letting people gain awareness that things of interest to them exist is a perfectly reasonable thing to do. Lots of people go and watch movie trailers of their own volition, for example. But there is absolutely a line, beyond which advertising becomes parasitic. How much time do we collectively lose, how much wealth does our society spend, in order that some people may become wealthy selling to some other people? Where, ethically, is the line between robbery, extortion, fraud and an advertising campaign or sales pitch? I do not know exactly where the line is for responsible advertising, but as a society I think we are very far on the wrong side of it.

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