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Apple's A11 Bionic Chip In iPhone 8 and iPhone X Smokes Android Handsets In Early Benchmarks (hothardware.com)
MojoKid writes: Many of the new releases of Apple's iPhone bring with it a new A-series SoC (System on Chip) and Apple is keeping that tradition with the iPhone 8 and iPhone 8 Plus, and iPhone X. Each of those handsets sports a custom ARM-based A11 Bionic processor with six cores -- four high performance cores and two power efficiency cores. The two power efficiency cores will perform the bulk medial chores to maintain battery life, which Apple says will be 2 hours longer than the iPhone 7. However, for heavier workloads, the chip is capable of not only firing up its four high performance cores, but also all six cores simultaneously. If early leaked benchmarks are any indication, the A11 Bionic is going to be a benchmark-busting beast of a chip. A set of just-posted Geekbench scores reinforces that notion. Just prior to Apple announcing its newest iPhone models, Geekbench's database was updated with a new entry for an "iPhone 10,5" which we assume to be the iPhone X. Based on the scores recorded, in this one benchmark at least, the A11 CPU powering the iPhone X appears to be 50 to 70 percent faster than any Android handset on the market currently, even those powered by the new Qualcomm Snapdragon 835.
New iPhone is launched:
Apple Fanbois: New iPhone is faster than the Samsung!
Android Fanbois: It doesn't matter. So many other things are more important the processor speed!!!!
New Android phone is launched:
Android Fanbois: New Samsung is faster than the iPhone!
Apple Fanbois: It doesn't matter. So many other things are more important the processor speed!!!!
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While Apple handsets are clearly faster than Android offerings, the phone continues to revolutionize the mobile handset market as only Steve Jobs could have envisioned all those years ago. It's a great tribute to Jobs that Apple is able to continue to innovate even in his absence. He was taken from us too soon. RIP, Steve Jobs.
The most impressive aspect of Apple's ARM chips is in their single-core performance, which is arguably a more useful, real-world metric since many common tasks in apps are principally single-threaded. By that measure Apple is more than 2x faster than Samsung's S8.
Did you just arrive out of the DeLorean, doc? Android and iOS are the only two competitors in the phone/tablet space. If iOS is unsuitable for the GP's uses, the parent poster wanted to know what he's using Android for, since that's the only other option when it comes to mainstream supported mobile devices other than laptops. And since the A11 Bionic chip doesn't power a laptop, the reason the question was asked is plainly obvious.
Or are you just being obtuse?
Cheap toys outsell expensive toys, what's your point?
If you're trying to suggest that everyone who buys a cheap Android phone chooses to do that because they don't want iOS rather than can't afford an Apple phone, I'd say you're incredibly incorrect.
I mean, that's cute, but you're wrong. That CPU will crush the iPhone's new fancy processor in a way that isn't even a competition. You should really stop trusting Geekbench scores, as they intentionally take TDP out of the equation.
The i7 chip can go forever without really thermal throttling in most laptop setups, even under high stress. The iPhone sleeps the CPU in between clock cycles to intentionally let it cool down. Further, the iPhone is running highly optimized software with very specific limitations. It doesn't need to be good at general tasks in the same way the i7 does. Sure it can do cool 4k video stuff... With how many codecs? Yeah, that's what specific hardware gets you, very fast specific things.
It's a great phone processor, but any i7 is going to leave it in the dust in any respectable comparison that doesn't artificially alter benchmarks to make things seem better than they are.
Of course not everyone, that's a strawman. But to try to imply that a significant portion would rather have iOS is also incredibly incorrect. Most people who buys cheap Androids are either fine or would rather have an expensive Android. People who really want an iphone are buying 4s and 5s iphones now. I know a bunch of them, it's sad.
I see a lot of comments on here calling these benchmarks artificial and fake or whatever, but can we take a moment to think about the power of these devices that we have in our pockets? They're pushing more pixels and flopping more teras than our top of the line gaming pcs were 10 years ago. And they fit in our pockets. Couple this with the fact that these devices are getting faster and smaller and battery life is still improving generation over generation.
Slashdot has always been a tinkerer's haven and relatively anti-apple, but their year over year feat of pushing the envelope is impressive. Honestly, all the competition really needs to get the lead out. There's more engineers not at apple than at apple and they're sitting on ass.
So stop blaming Apple for taking the talent or improving on what's there. And stop treating this shit like some religious war. You don't need to bash something to make yourself feel better about what tech you use. Different people value different things. Chill the fuck out and be happy you're around for all this amazing tech, from Samsung, huawei, apple, and the future underdogs that wil become the next number one. Shit is only gonna get better, maybe you can be a part of it. Do your best work and make the world a better place.
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Ewwwwww, coconut...
It's possible to compile objective c as android ndk (native apk) same as C/C++, but usually most coders wind up depending on many system java functions anyway because android is inherently a java-based OS upon a Linux kernel
Benchmarks are all useless so far as I'm concerned, they gave note slow note 2 a good score and my fast cubot a lower score.
What matters is how snappy the apps I use are, I don't care about stupid synthetic benchmarks on phones. How quick does gps get a lock is a good metric, how fast does the phone start or reboot is another good metric. How quick can a photo be taken - another good metric that actually matters for a phone.
Just measuring the CPU speed is pointless.
And test internet reliability, they get this wrong too - time to 100% page load is irrelevant when 99.9% of the page loads quick and the other 0.1% won't even be visible because it's just some tracking crap anyhow.
Waterfox - a Firefox fork with legacy extension support, security updates and better privacy by default.
I stopped caring about scores past when iPhone 5s or Snapdragon 800+ android phones hit the market. There is plenty of performance there to do any task that +95 percent of users need on their phone. 99% of the time, your smartphone is still just a fancy messenger and a web browser (because most mobile apps are just a wrapper around a web site).
It's of course nice that Apple gives you so much performance, but these days Chinaphones that cost under 250USD and carry the specs that are sufficient for most uses out there are just too seductive for a lot of people
When the power is there uses will be found. Like good AR, and like 4K HDR video at 60 fps. That's something that until now was found only in high end professional gear, and certainly not in a phone.
Saying phones are "fast enough" is like sticking your head in the sand.
I wholeheartedly agree!
And anyone who watched the Keynote the other day, and saw what Apple is capable of doing with ARKit and the facial-mapping (Amimoji Poop notwithstanding!), has just GOT to stop and think, as I did, "In REAL-TIME? On a PHONE?!?"
Start watching at time-index 1:32:00
https://www.apple.com/apple-ev...
Even the stupid Animoji stuff is pretty cool, though, from a technical standpoint.
Watch the Cat Animoji accurately track and display Craig's "Angry Face", squinching up it's cheeks and eyes just like he was doing, and, the Unicorn Animoji, accurately tracking and displaying the "lip-flapping" thing that horses do, again in real-time.
Yes, as Craig rhetorically asked when showing-off the Animojies and the "Face Mask" stuff, "So, whaddya do with the world's most sophisticated face-tracking system?", these are admittedly silly applications of some pretty cool technology; but the point is, they also clearly show just how good that technology is.
And. On a PHONE... It's just plain amazing.