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Google Allowed Advertisers To Target 'Jewish Parasite,' 'Black People Ruin Everything' (buzzfeed.com)

Alex Kantrowitz, reporting for BuzzFeed News: Google, the world's biggest advertising platform, allows advertisers to specifically target ads to people typing racist and bigoted terms into its search bar, BuzzFeed News has discovered. Not only that, Google will suggest additional racist and bigoted terms once you type some into its ad buying tool. Type "White people ruin," as a potential advertising keyword into Google's ad platform, and Google will suggest you run ads next to searches including "black people ruin neighborhoods." Type "Why do Jews ruin everything," and Google will suggest you run ads next to searches including "the evil jew" and "jewish control of banks." BuzzFeed News ran an ad campaign targeted to all these keywords and others this week. The ads went live and were visible when we searched for the keywords we'd selected. Google's ad buying platform tracked the ad views. Following our inquiry, Google disabled every keyword in this ad campaign save one -- an exact match for "blacks destroy everything," is still eligible. Google told BuzzFeed News that just because a phrase is eligible does not guarantee an ad campaign will run against it. A total of 17 ad impressions were served before the keywords were disabled.

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  1. Just like Facebook? by WoodstockJeff · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Deja vu, except for the company name.

    1. Re:Just like Facebook? by danbert8 · · Score: 1

      Indeed, can we mark TFA as redundant?

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    2. Re:Just like Facebook? by Luthair · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Really though, are the creators of automated systems meant to think of every possible questionable phrase?

      If someone pins a hateful ad on a bulletin board are the owners letting the person do it or have they just not seen it yet?

    3. Re:Just like Facebook? by Daetrin · · Score: 2

      ProPublica caught Facebook, and Buzzfeed caught Google. So which important high-traffic website is next? Is anyone focusing on Bing to see if it suffers from the same problem?

      [crickets]

      Hello? Anyone there?

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    4. Re: Just like Facebook? by dougdonovan · · Score: 1

      bad google.

    5. Re:Just like Facebook? by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 1

      Bing's only user is Ned Ryerson.

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    6. Re:Just like Facebook? by bluefoxlucid · · Score: 1

      I'm amazed they got 17 impressions. Was the campaign likely to get hundreds, or low-budget and picking up 2-3 a day?

    7. Re:Just like Facebook? by JohnFen · · Score: 1

      Hoards of free porn aficionados say that you're wrong.

    8. Re:Just like Facebook? by Luthair · · Score: 1

      And tell us how accepting payment to place that hateful ad is the same as someone putting it up without your knowledge?

      So change the scenario slightly and add a vending machine that dispenses pins for a quarter

    9. Re:Just like Facebook? by Gorobei · · Score: 1

      Well, Bing is only used to search for porn videos. Given "black people ruin porn", Bing made a noble effort to cater to my needs.

    10. Re:Just like Facebook? by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 1

      Really though, are the creators of automated systems meant to think of every possible questionable phrase?

      That is not a good argument. Google could easily build a filter that could stop 90% or more of these phrases. They will never stop 100%, but they could easily do way better.

      But should they? Is it really their role be society's ideological and moral gatekeepers?

    11. Re:Just like Facebook? by serviscope_minor · · Score: 1

      You don't get to absolve yourself of responsibility just because you created an automated system. If you are making money of such things then you are responsible.

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    12. Re:Just like Facebook? by Cajun+Hell · · Score: 1

      Which just goes to show, those people are all the same.

      Why do ad people have to ruin everything?

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    13. Re:Just like Facebook? by Stolovaya · · Score: 1

      So phone carriers should be responsible for all the content that passes over their wires?

    14. Re: Just like Facebook? by loufoque · · Score: 1

      Please do explain to me how the most basic expression of free speech is illegal in the USA

    15. Re:Just like Facebook? by Luthair · · Score: 1

      Have you never seen a bulletin board before? Do you not know how pins work?

  2. Not to sound racist but... by tbuddy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I'm not seeing why this is a problem. You're not going to eliminate racism by hiding it. It's not like a confederate statue staring you in the face, you have to go looking for racist garbage for you to find it on Google search and if you do find some racist garbage you can get rid of it fairly easy with their reporting tools.

    People want information and advertisers want information. You can find perfectly legal porn sites and the like and they can advertise. I'm just not seeing the social dilemma. It's not like their getting links to fake pharmacies that can sell you knock off Viagra that could be potentially dangerous and lacks quality control (which they had an issue with before and fixed). I'm a big proponent of people being accepting and part of that is being accepting of people who I think have horrible world view points. As long as it doesn't harm me people can do what they like, unless it is BuzzFeed news. That's literally Hitler. #ICan'tEven

    1. Re:Not to sound racist but... by Captain+Splendid · · Score: 1, Insightful

      You're not going to eliminate racism by hiding it.

      Sure you are. No baby is born racist, they get taught that shit by someone or something.

      Your idea is sound in principle ("information wants to be free"), but in practice it doesn't really work out that way.

      I'm just not seeing the social dilemma.

      Others do, though. Are there opinions worth any less than yours?

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    2. Re:Not to sound racist but... by Vermonter · · Score: 4, Insightful

      When you ban certain ideas, those ideas end up getting discussed in private where they are far less likely to be disputed. The best thing to do is to invite bigoted ideologies to be discussed openly, so that counterarguments can be put forth and the general public can see why they are bad ideas. Sadly it's less effort to ban offensive ideas than to debate them.

      Just like prohibition didn't stop drinking, banning offensive ideas does not kill them.

    3. Re:Not to sound racist but... by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 1

      To summarize the summary of the summary: people are a problem.
      Douglas Adams

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    4. Re:Not to sound racist but... by hey! · · Score: 1

      Well, eliminating racism is kind of a straw argument. Is anyone actually arguing that racism will disappear because Google took action in this case?

      I suspect the reason that Google stepped in here was profit maximization, not social engineering.

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    5. Re:Not to sound racist but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      This isn't about banning racism, it's about whether Google is profiting from racism.

    6. Re: Not to sound racist but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Actually, science shows that babies demonstrate in-group preferences. So, yes babies are born racist.

    7. Re:Not to sound racist but... by dbialac · · Score: 1

      Because, you know, people don't say the same things in private.

    8. Re:Not to sound racist but... by JohnFen · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Those studies don't support your conclusion. What those studies show is that infants fear anything that is different from what they've been experiencing. It's not specifically a race thing. It's also why infants tend to be picky about their food, are suspicious of new toys, don't like it when their living space is redecorated, etc.

      The reason is pretty well established, too: it is safer to stick with what you know is OK than to risk something that you don't have experience with.

      And, the effect eases with experience and education. Nothing about these studies indicates that racism, specifically, is hardwired or that it's inevitable.

    9. Re:Not to sound racist but... by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 1

      I'm afraid that's not true. These ideas are sticky in a lot of people's minds, especially the uneducated, auto-didacts, and the not fully educated. We let them see these ideas, they're going to believe them despite the ridiculous conclusions to which they lead, and before we know it the trains are running on time to the camps.

      The best thing we can do is attempt to inoculate people beforehand by crapping all over the ideas before anyone sees them, and the next best thing is to eliminate them from the public square. It really helps to see advocates of these vile ideas unable to speak without hired thugs to protect them.

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    10. Re:Not to sound racist but... by dbialac · · Score: 1

      Not only that, but if you want to create ads to fight racism, you can do that by targeting these kinds of terms. But the knee-jerk reaction by SJW's doesn't give them a chance to actually consider this fact.

    11. Re:Not to sound racist but... by Rick+Schumann · · Score: 2
      ..Okay, here's where I have problems with what you're saying:

      You're not going to eliminate racism by hiding it.

      While as a stand-alone statement this is true (racism is like cockroaches, after all; it prefers existing away from the light -- at least until they feel they have 'strength in numbers') this does not mean that anyone, individual or especially a business of any kind, should CATER TO IT/THEM -- not unless they want to be 'guilty by association'. By catering to it/them (by selling them ads) that is precisely what Google did -- and they implicitly admitted their guilt in this case by deleting everything once they were called out on it.

      You can find perfectly legal porn sites and the like and they can advertise.

      You cannot conflate pornography with racism and porn websites with selling advertising space to racists/racist organzations or anyone who wants to leverage racism to promote their business. Two totally different things.

      I'm a big proponent of people being accepting and part of that is being accepting of people who I think have horrible world view points.

      Sure. I'm all for 'freedom of speech'. HOWEVER: 'Freedom of Speech' does not mean 'freedom to say whatever the hell you want and suffer no consequences from the Court of Public Opinion. Racism is NASTY and should NOT be tolerated. Sure, let them 'out' themselves all they like -- then we know who they are so it can be made crystal-clear to them that their attitudes and opinions have no place in modern society.

      As long as it doesn't harm me people can do what they like

      So, in other words, you in actuality stand for nothing except yourself? I think you'd better clarify yourself on that point, because otherwise I'd have to say that your self-centered and apathetic attitude is, to put it mildly, disappointing.

    12. Re:Not to sound racist but... by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 1

      The issue is that, in this moment in time, people who strongly identify with either right-wing or left-wing ideology tend to prefer shouting down those who hold opposing views instead of engaging them in actual discussion. Additionally, there appears to be extreme reluctance - on both sides - to even acknowledge that perhaps some part of what "the other side" believes is a legitimate concern.

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    13. Re:Not to sound racist but... by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 1

      And that "different from everything they've been experiencing" for white babies is black people. Is it any wonder we have the systemic structural racism problem we do? It perpetuates itself automatically in families where white babies are raised by white adults.

      "it is safer to stick with what you know is OK than to risk something that you don't have experience with."
      Dude, why are you making excuses for racists? We don't need to be making their lives easier. We need to be driving them out. The whole idea of diversity is to make people comfortable with things they don't have experience with. Please stop repeating these outdated shibboleths.

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    14. Re:Not to sound racist but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Sure you are. No baby is born racist,

      Actually, babies are born racist. Well, not literally racist as "race" is too complex of a concept for babies to grasp, but babies do discriminate. One of the early stages of development is learning to discriminate between people who look like you/your parents, and those who don't. It's part of learning to identify people they know (parents) from strangers

      This is why much emphasis is played on creating "diverse" environments. If a baby (or even a grown adult) is exposed to seeing people of all races working together in harmony, they are less likely to develop prejudices.

      In other words, you eliminate racism not by hiding, but by showing. Show a better alternative.

      they get taught that shit by someone or something

      Again, this means the solution isn't to hide racism, but to teach tolerance. This isn't "information wants to be free". This is "the answer to hate speech isn't censorship, but more free speech", where you speak your own better ideas, you offer your well reasoned rebuttals (as in, try not to shame and call them racists, that usually has the opposite effect)

      And we know this works in practice because we've TRIED your way of hiding and shaming and cornering the racists, and the racists didn't go away. If anything, it made them stronger as they see your attempts to hide them as oppression.

      Conversely, previous successes in combating hate and prejudice was done using what I said: activists stood out and spoke out. They didn't hide nor did they demand the racists to go hide. The racists can try to speak out against them, and sometimes things even got violent, but that just made them appear as fools and violet thugs to everyone watching. And that was how the racists lost support.

    15. Re:Not to sound racist but... by tbuddy · · Score: 1

      Totally good point. The same way that competing companies post ads on their competition. It's not as though there aren't some non-profits that are flush with cash who should be doing this. Even if it's not their target market they could get racists to rage about them, thusly get more word of mouth. It's could be a better spend on than targeting people who agree with their viewpoints in not condoning racism.

    16. Re:Not to sound racist but... by gweihir · · Score: 1

      Actually, people find out about racism all by themselves. It is one of the common ways to of fuckups to elevate themselves above others. Fuckups that are still kids do discover it all by themselves. The idea is pretty simple and obvious: Identify some characteristic somebody else has that they cannot do anything about and are not actually responsible for and that you yourself do not have. Then attach negative meaning to it.

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    17. Re:Not to sound racist but... by JohnFen · · Score: 1

      Dude, why are you making excuses for racists?

      I'm not. I'm debunking one of the common excuses they use.

      But I'm not going to avoid stating things that I think are true just because scumbags might misunderstand or misuse what I say. They're scumbags and aren't worth that amount of consideration.

    18. Re:Not to sound racist but... by gweihir · · Score: 1

      Indeed. And it validates those ideas and the people that have them by the "David vs. Goliath" effect. (Works something like this: "They have to suppress the idea. Hence the idea must have merit, because otherwise they would have actual arguments against it and would not need to suppress it.)

      But the cave-man reflex is to apply violence to anything they not not like, in modern times by proxy of the big fetish of "the law". This routinely makes matters much worse.

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    19. Re:Not to sound racist but... by gweihir · · Score: 2

      Google is profiting from what people want. If you force them to censor, you are banning things. While this state of affairs is not good, the proposed "cure" is far worse.

      Caveat: I do think Google is an evil large corporation these days, but that is the normal state of things in capitalism. (No, communism is even worse, there you have an evil, all-encompassing state.)

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    20. Re: Not to sound racist but... by freeze128 · · Score: 1

      This kinda sounds like a meme... like cats are jerks.

    21. Re:Not to sound racist but... by gweihir · · Score: 2

      You are advocating censorship and propaganda. These are universally abused as soon as established and far worse than having stupid people think stupid things on their own. The only think we can to without making matters much worse is to be resilient as a society and tolerate the idiots. Any attempt at suppression is not only futile, but dangerous.

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    22. Re:Not to sound racist but... by gweihir · · Score: 1

      My guess would be Google actually just is using some weak AI mechanisms and they did not feed in a list of things that are "forbidden". Does say bad things about some of their customers, but the world is full of idiots and _that_ cannot be fixed.

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    23. Re:Not to sound racist but... by hey! · · Score: 1

      Right. In a world where everyone was perfectly logical and unemotional we'd say, "Well, the AI classifier identified distinct groups of racist customers." But in the world we live in reputation matters, and the most valuable customers don't want to be associated, even tenuously, with these morons.

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    24. Re:Not to sound racist but... by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 1

      It's not specifically a race thing.

      Not specifically. But it is still a race thing. If an Ethiopian child has only seen black faces, they are going to have a negative reaction if a white/green/purple person walks in the room. Children have a natural dislike of things they are not used to ... including people of different races.

      And, the effect eases with experience and education. Nothing about these studies indicates that racism, specifically, is hardwired or that it's inevitable.

      First you say it can be eased with education ... then you say it doesn't exist.

      Your use of the weasel word "specifically" indicates that you don't even believe your own argument, since no one is claiming that it is "specific" to race.

    25. Re:Not to sound racist but... by JohnFen · · Score: 1

      But it is still a race thing.

      No, it's a difference thing. Babies aren't saying "not my race!", they're saying "something I've never seen!" It's adults that put the special weight on the racial differences and project that weight onto babies.

      First you say it can be eased with education ... then you say it doesn't exist.

      Huh? Where did I do that? Perhaps I was unclear... I'm saying that people pointing to those studies as proving racism is inborn are misunderstanding the studies. I'm not saying racism doesn't exist. It clearly does.

      My usage of the word "specifically" was intended to clarify this distinction. Obviously, it failed to do so.

    26. Re:Not to sound racist but... by gweihir · · Score: 1

      In that world we would not have racists, because racism is just a mechanism of losers to claim "I am better than those others because they have race characteristic XYZ, but I do not". Listen to some black racists some time and the utter stupidity of the racist idea becomes glaringly obvious.

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    27. Re:Not to sound racist but... by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 2

      But it is still a race thing.

      No, it's a difference thing.

      This is a logical fallacy. If A is caused by B, C, or D, then you it is not logical to say that B doesn't cause A because A can also be caused by other things.

      Very young children have a natural aversion to different racial characteristics that they are not familiar with. They ALSO have a natural aversion to people with asymmetrical faces. These don't cease to be facts just because they can both be classified more generally as "differences".

    28. Re:Not to sound racist but... by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 1

      you are contending that the differences are racial as opposed to mere differences that are by happenstance, correlated with race.

      No. I am absolutely not claiming that. I am claiming that unfamiliar differences can cause aversion ... and some of those differences are correlated with race. Many other differences that cause aversion are not correlated with race. So I think we are in full agreement on the facts, just not on how logic applies to those facts.

      If X causes Y, it doesn't suddenly stop causing Y just because Z also causes Y.

      You could achieve the same result with a Clown Face or the Smurfs.

      Absolutely true. Aversion can be caused my many types of unfamiliar differences.

    29. Re:Not to sound racist but... by Baron_Yam · · Score: 1

      >No baby is born racist, they get taught that shit by someone or something.

      They're not born racist, but they do learn fairly quickly to prefer people who look most like their parents.

      As you get older, you tend (not always, there's also the allure of the exotic) to look for a mate who looks similar - but not too similar - to the people you grew up around. There's also some evidence there's a pheromone effect in play, as women have been found to prefer body odour similar to their father's.

      We have plenty of social programming to divide everything into 'us' and 'them', and skin colour and general appearance are easy markers. ...We're not born racist, but we're damn well born with the programming in place to BECOME racist. However one of the nice things about our big brains and self-awareness is we can overcome Nature when she screws up.

    30. Re:Not to sound racist but... by Xylantiel · · Score: 1

      It seems Google itself is not comfortable with profiting from racist targeting. No force needed. This is just pointing out that it is happening and showing that even Google does feel some shame for selling this kind of targeting. Freedom of speech does not guarantee your right to use a particular advertising service in a particular way. If Google and Facebook want to be the fascists' and the racists' best buddies, they might lose some respect. (Now I agree that respect is largely undeserved, but there is an argument that the data miners really have drunk their cool-aid and think they are helping the world and not driving it mad with the collateral damage of their culture manipulation machines... er marketing technology.)

    31. Re:Not to sound racist but... by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      Appearance is a proxy for relatedness; who looks most like you? Your parents, children & siblings. Who looks least like you? People of other races.

      So any gene that caused people to like similar looking people (and by implication dislike those who looked different) would be favouring itself. Once it existed, it would be self-reinforcing.

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    32. Re:Not to sound racist but... by dwye · · Score: 1

      And that "different from everything they've been experiencing" for white babies is black people

      So Southerners raised by black nannies, cooks, maids, etc., were racism-free?

      Mind, this is possible; I have heard (on TV) people claim that they experienced less in the South than in South Boston.

  3. Are these actively used? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Anyone can put together any combination of words that adds up to a custom-made definition of "hate". Furthermore, what about other languages? Should Google hire people to cover all languages and spend their days thinking of hateful sentences to ban?

    If only 17 ads were served during X numbers of hours or days or weeks before the sentence was banned (and probably served to the BuzzFeed employees who did the research), then they are not really addressing any problem. It seems like a fake news.

    It is likely, though, that BuzzFeed in their market research identified hateful leftists and are actively marketing to them using well crafted ad-words.

  4. What about other terms? by tomhath · · Score: 1

    "Pit bulls dangerous" allowed? How about ads targeting "Crooked Hillary"? Or even worse, what if I want to market a product to members of the gay community? Can I use the word "Queer"?

    1. Re:What about other terms? by tomhath · · Score: 1

      You sound like a vegan sheep owner.

  5. This is Sparta^H^H^H^H^H^Hmarketing by Archon · · Score: 1

    1. Google's primary income is from their ad platform.
    2. Targeting is what makes their ad platform competitive.
    3. Hate speech is protected speech in the US. ...
    4. Profit?

  6. Moderate top level article as redundant by XXongo · · Score: 1
    Yep. Slashdot ran pretty much this same story yesterday, except Facebook instead of Google.

    Are we going to get the same story every day until we run out of different platforms you can put a search term into?

    1. Re:Moderate top level article as redundant by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 1

      TFA raises important issues about what kind of society we want to have. Should giant corporations be the moral gatekeepers? Should people be allowed to shop for a Confederate flag, or should Google ban products based on the ideology they symbolize? What about a "Black Lives Matter" t-shirt?

      You may have an opinion about Confederate flags and/or BLM t-shirts, but if so, then you are missing the point. TFA is advocating that your opinion DOESN'T MATTER, and instead of individual opinions, we should just accept and DEMAND the appropriate corporate policies.

    2. Re:Moderate top level article as redundant by jellomizer · · Score: 1

      More to the point how much of this is automated.
      The problem with these adaptive and learning systems is they pickup trends without any moral background. And the size of google it is nearly impossible to to monitor everything.

      Being nearly every human probably has a moral failing often this moral failing they don't realize and often celibate it. Makes it difficult to code a bias moral engine.

      Most racist vindicat themselves with some logic, often saying that they are unfairly targeted, or the groups they hate are getting it too easy. Or such groups are some how more dangerous then the normal population. Then reinforce it with other historical or religious presence.

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    3. Re: Moderate top level article as redundant by loufoque · · Score: 1

      The problem is that they do filter based on some arbitrary morals, which is bad.

      Those systems should be ideology-agnostic.

  7. This is a feature, not a bug by XXongo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Actually, I think this should be considered as a feature, not a bug.

    If you are, say, the Jewish Antidefamation League, people who put in the search term "Jews ruin everything" and "evil Jews" and "Jewish control of banks" into Google search are exactly the people you want to serve advertising intended to change public opinion.

  8. Opportunities Lost by Jonathan+C.+Patschke · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Ages ago, before torrents and automated enforcement of the DMCA, one could find direct-download "warez," "keygens," and "cracks" easily through major search engines.

    One day, I was searching for a particular software crack so that I could try it without borrowing a key dongle, and I got a notice from Google directing me to a drug rehabilitation hotline. I'd never even considered that people might use Google to look for crack cocaine, but, thanks to the naiveté of keyword-matching, there was the opportunity to get help for an addiction I thankfully did not have.

    I'm sure all sorts of hateful organizations paid Google for the opportunity to sell swag to bigots. I'm sure Google spent their money just as easily as they spent money from people buying access to nicer keywords.

    Want to burn a bigot in the ass? Let it come out that every dime spent on buying access to "Jewish Parasite" and "Black People Ruin Everything" went to the ADL and NAACP. Give organizations like the ADL and NAACP access to those keywords gratis. Offer alternatives to hate as easily as alternatives to drugs.

    Google missed an opportunity to, relatively cheaply, buy a huge PR win and help overcome hate.

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    1. Re:Opportunities Lost by Kartu · · Score: 1

      It wouldn't change jack shit, not to mention that any organization could do it without google's help, although not for free.

    2. Re:Opportunities Lost by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      The ADL's own bigotry would likely just push anyone who is opposed to their ideas further away. It probably wouldn't help crush the conspiracy theories that google is using the ADL and other free speech control groups to undermine freedom of thought on their platforms. Of course like any advertising entity, the profit of the advertiser is always the largest motivation, so if so called "anti-racist" groups want to push ads to presumed racists that's fine with the advertising provider.

      Would be interesting to see the stats on ambigious artworks like Taylor Swift's recent "look what you made me do" which is drawing theories that she supports any number of ideologies; including ones that she very likely doesn't. Regardless of the author's intents should a publisher capitolize on preceived perspectives?

  9. Is the fault with Google? by Weaselmancer · · Score: 1

    Did they set it up specifically that way, or is there some algorithm that picked up on dreadful people chatting and try to sell to them?

    Everybody remembers Tay, right? She started off a simple chatbot and wound up the grand wizard of the kkk by the end of the day.

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  10. Google PR by JohnFen · · Score: 1

    Google told BuzzFeed News that just because a phrase is eligible does not guarantee an ad campaign will run against it.

    You'd think a company as rich as Google could afford a competent spokesperson who wouldn't say really stupid shit like that.

  11. You can't eliminate racism at all by future+assassin · · Score: 1

    unless you got a solution to eliminate prejudices.

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  12. Re:Dupe! by JohnFen · · Score: 1

    It's not really a dupe, as it involves entirely different companies.

  13. Re:I wonder what related terms show for the follow by JohnFen · · Score: 1

    this all does seem a little bit like fake news

    What about this makes you think the stories are lies?

  14. Google needs to tread very carefully... by Bartles · · Score: 1

    ... the day they start engaging in significant censorship is the day they become too powerful and get slapped with common carrier status and broken up as a monopoly.

  15. Re:its not wrong by PPH · · Score: 1

    traditional American culture

    What exactly is this? One of our founding principles is placing the individual above the group or the state. And to protect the rights of any like-minded individuals to assemble and practice their own culture. That said, where exactly is the definition of this "traditional culture"?

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  16. It is not Google's problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    In Soviet Union self identification in the form of "I am Russian" or "I am Georgian" or "I am Ukrainian" and etc was considered as imperial Chauvinisme or Nazism and the person was put under surveillance from secret service. We are living in free country and having free speech and right of expression. The problem should be resolved from other end, via counter propaganda. Prohibition does not solve the problem, it only let those groups to proliferate their ideas faster.

  17. Re:Dupe! by Thelasko · · Score: 2

    It's not really a dupe, as it involves entirely different companies.

    I just realized Google and Facebook might as well be the same company...

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    One of our competitors trademarked the term "hypothesis". From now on, we will call them "boneheaded ideas".
  18. Making Searrching Easy by JimSadler · · Score: 1

    Free speech includes ignorant speech, idiotic ideas and even speech designed to flame the fan of hatred. Trying to limit free speech is expensive, troublesome and almost a total failure. The centuries old fight against pornography is a great example. Today we have more access to a huge variety in porn than ever before. About the only item that has been beaten down is child porn simply because almost all people hate child molesters. and even when we put the sick types in prison or other facility we spend a huge sum getting the job done. It is a legitimate question to ask what would happen if we let the child porn industry run full throttle and use the money that we would have used squashing child porn and put that sum into cancer or heart disease cures? How many lives would be saved? how many children would actually be harmed if we change policies. Can we even get dollar amounts on the money used to stop child porn? My guess it is in the billions per year. It is similar to looking at the money used to fight prostitution. Being that some people only get by in life as sexual providers and would do far worse if they could not rent their bodies to the public and the money spent for cops, jails and the like for these people does legal restraint do anything more than cause great harm to the public. When the enemy is at the beach head and one needs tanks and guns and troops just how does spending money fighting porn and hooking count for anything if you can't afford a winning military?

  19. New English by Khashishi · · Score: 2

    The English language has allowed people to voice hate speech and conspire to conduct terror. But worry not, the truth ministry is working on New English which will rectify these shortcomings.

  20. Maybe they DID block 90% of such phrases by raymorris · · Score: 1

    > Google could easily build a filter that could stop 90% or more of these phrases. They will never stop 100%, but they could easily do way better.

    If we made a list of objectionable phrases, we may find that Google DID block 90% of them. Without checking, I can't agree with "they could do way better" - we don't know how well they did. We only know that somebody was able to come up with a few phrases that weren't blocked.

    > But should they? Is it really their role be society's ideological and moral gatekeepers?

    That is indeed a very good question. It gets real interesting when you consider the types of racist things Al Sharpton says, or the things many black comedians say.

    1. Re:Maybe they DID block 90% of such phrases by Mr+D+from+63 · · Score: 1

      > Google could easily build a filter that could stop 90% or more of these phrases. They will never stop 100%, but they could easily do way better.

      If we made a list of objectionable phrases, we may find that Google DID block 90% of them. Without checking, I can't agree with "they could do way better" - we don't know how well they did. We only know that somebody was able to come up with a few phrases that weren't blocked.

      > But should they? Is it really their role be society's ideological and moral gatekeepers?

      That is indeed a very good question. It gets real interesting when you consider the types of racist things Al Sharpton says, or the things many black comedians say.

      If they did block all those phrases, then you would not be able to google this slashdot discussion.

  21. Re:Dupe! by Xylantiel · · Score: 1

    The Dataminers.

  22. Re:Dupe! by Xylantiel · · Score: 1

    better yet... Miners of The Data, where "The Data" is the personal information of a large fraction of people on the planet.

  23. This discussion is about ad targeting by raymorris · · Score: 1

    This discussion is about how people can target their ads, not about totally removing a site from Google's index, or indeed removing it from the web completely.

    Suppose you are selling unique cases for Raspberry Pi. You wouldn't want to show that ad to just anybody and everybody at random, that would be wasteful. Instead, you'd want to advertise Pi cases to people who search for "Raspberry Pi", "Pi case", "Pi model B", etc.

    When you advertise through Google, you can show your ads to likely buyers by selecting phrases they search for. The author of the article set his ass to run when people search for "Jewish parasite". Google'sâ server let him type that in and run ads when people search for that.