HP Users Complain About 10-Minute Login Lag During 'Win 10 Update' (theregister.co.uk)

A number of HP device owners are complaining of seeing black screens for around five to 10 minutes after entering their Windows login information. From a report: They appear to be pointing the finger of blame at Windows 10 updates released September 12 for x64-based systems. One, a quality update called KB4038788, offered a whopping 27 bullet points for general quality improvements and patches, such as an "issue that sometimes causes Windows File Explorer to stop responding and causes the system to stop working." Another, KB4038806, was a "critical" patch for Adobe Flash Player that allowed remote code execution.

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5-minute black screens - pansies!

[xxxJonBoyxxx]

>> We saw black screens for up to 10 minutes after our Windows 10 upgrade. (Sniff.)

Did it come back AT ALL?

>> Yes, but...

Then I'd call it success. You won't find any sympathy from people whose computers refused to boot after a Windows 10 "upgrade".

Well they bought an HP

[slashmydots]

HP doesn't believe in SSDs. I think they literally believe SSDs are just a myth. So yes, expect login delays as Windows 10 runs a small Defender scan EVERY SINGLE TIME YOU LOG IN! And don't forget indexing and superfetch. But I've noticed that there is a huge CPU bomb of a recompile after the latest update. It processed on a rather fast PC of mine for at least 5 minutes. Still, 1 CPU core and minimum I/O hit on the SSD meant I could still operate the computer at least.

Re: Well they bought an HP

[El Cubano]

HP doesn't believe in SSDs.

So, this isn't exactly the same thing, but I have a ~2.5 year old HP business laptop. It came with a standard HDD and a few weeks ago the HDD began to fail. I bought a new SSD and transferred the data over (I caught the failure early enough thanks to a misbehaving VM and SMART that I had only minor corruption in a few spots and I was able to correct everything I needed). After making the switch, it feels like I have a brand new laptop. I am absolutely amazed at how much of a difference just the HDD->SSD change makes.

I have another small Dell that came with SSD, but I only use it when I travel or when I need something very light and small. It also replaced a much older machine so I attributed the speed up mostly to the better CPU, more memory, and probably motherboard improvements. For everyday work I tend to use the larger HP I referred to above. However, since I have a very recent comparison of the exact same machine with HDD and then SSD, I can honestly say that I am all about SSDs now.

Re: Well they bought an HP

[Entropius]

So in other words Microsoft hasn't figured out apt yet?

Somehow my linux system never explodes while trying to update anything.

Fail

[sexconker]

We're now seeing Windows 10 machines losing their trust relationship with the DC.
The only way to fix it is to drop and rejoin, but you need a local admin account (or one specifically privileged for those domain operations) on the machine to be able to do that.

And our imaging process sets a random password for the admin account and disables it. Because these are domain machines only and we want them to be secure.

So now we have to hope we've got cached domain admin credentials on these boxes (since we started Windows 10 deployments only recently, it seems like we do so far), unplug from the network, login with cached credentials, create an admin account, drop and rejoin, kill off the admin account, etc.

Fucking Windows 10 every fucking time. FUCK YOU MS!

Funny, not funny

[TheStickBoy]

Last night, I went to use my wife's HP laptop. We share a common login/password. as soon as I pressed enter on the password the updates immediately started. no prompts! When the PC finally booted up all my wife's work was lost because it did not close the open applications gracefully.

needless to say I got in trouble.

Re:Adobe Flash!?

[nonicknameavailable]

Built in to Edge

Re:Feature

[fizzer06]

They call it Windows "10" because it will take 10 minutes from log in to desktop. Wait for Windows 15. Or just wait.

Re:Adobe Flash!?

[zixxt]

Another, KB4038806, was a "critical" patch for Adobe Flash Player that allowed remote code execution.

People still keep Adobe Flash on their system?

Flash rocks! I play about a dozen flash based games, and on my netbooks flash videos are faster, use less memory and smoother then html5 videos. Heck I was watch full screen flash animation videos on my old Pentium 133.

Why do Windows updates take so long?

[Entropius]

Seriously, why?

It sometimes takes Windows longer to install updates than it takes me to install an entire Ubuntu OS. What the hell is it *doing*? It once took me four *hours* to install some Microsoft Visual C++ Redistributable package (of a slightly different version than what I already had) on a fast modern computer with plenty of RAM and a SSD.

Re:Why do Windows updates take so long?

[sgage]

It is my opinion that MS is simply technologically incompetent, and have ended up building something so complicated that even they don't understand what the heck is going on. I don't look for it to get any better, and Windows 7 is my last Windows. It's just a big hot ripe mess. The updating retardedness is just one manifestation of this.

But seriously, it seems like everything they do is an order of magnitude more complicated than it needs to be. They should never have tried to make one Windows to rule them all, thereby attempting to turn desktops into smart phones. IMO, that was a fatal mistake - they should have had two separate lines, desktop and phone-tablet-touchy-feely. Now desktop Windows is a Frankenstein monster, with the good win32 desktop bolted onto the Metro (whatever they're calling it this week) nonsense. Sorry, I do NOT want my desktop looking like airport signage.

Re: Adobe Flash!?

[Monster_user]

Flash should not be built into Edge. Edge should use HTML5 native video playback.