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Microsoft and Canonical Make Custom Linux Kernel (neowin.net)

Billly Gates writes: Microsoft and Canonical's relationship is getting closer besides Ubuntu for Windows. Azure will soon be offering more customized Ubuntu containers with a MS optimized kernel. Uname -r will show 4.11.0-1011-azure for Ubuntu cloud based 16.04 LTS. If you want the non MS kernel you can still use it on Azure by typing:
$ sudo apt install linux-virtual linux-cloud-tools-virtual
$ sudo apt purge linux*azure
$ sudo reboot
The article mentions several benefits over the generic Linux kernel for Azure

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  1. FTFY by El+Cubano · · Score: 4, Interesting

    If you want the non MS kernel you can still use it by not using Microsoft's cloud platform in the first place

    There. FTFY.

    Now, this is a serious question, but what reason could someone have for running Linux on Azure? Are there not any of a multitude of other better platforms out there for running Linux? I mean, I certainly understand if you are all in for Microsoft with things like Exchange, SQL server, AD, Sharepoint, etc., their cloud platform sort of make sense. But this, Ubuntu (or any other Linux) on Azure is something that simply does not make sense to me.

    1. Re:FTFY by swb · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I think Microsoft is giving away a certain amount of Azure to anybody who uses O365 in any significant way, and there's probably a lot of mixed infrastructure shops with both MS and Linux running. What better way to lure them in deeper?

      At the end of the day, MS values them more as cloud resource consumers than software licensees.

      It might even make sense for someone who can run a workload on any cloud stack to figure out how to arbitrage their workload where it's cheapest, gain cross-cloud redundancy, etc.

    2. Re:FTFY by Billly+Gates · · Score: 5, Interesting

      If you want the non MS kernel you can still use it by not using Microsoft's cloud platform in the first place

      There. FTFY.

      Now, this is a serious question, but what reason could someone have for running Linux on Azure? Are there not any of a multitude of other better platforms out there for running Linux? I mean, I certainly understand if you are all in for Microsoft with things like Exchange, SQL server, AD, Sharepoint, etc., their cloud platform sort of make sense. But this, Ubuntu (or any other Linux) on Azure is something that simply does not make sense to me.

      FYI I am the submitter

      The answer is easy. Corporations who already use Azure with Azure Active Directory and Office 365. Visual Studio support and the customers' internal developers are used to the Azure API's and frameworks as they use it for their other Windows specific services. Might as well keep using the APIs and frameworks for their other platforms rather than learning Amazon and dealing with 2 clouds.

      Microsoft also bundles Azure licensing too for enterprise customers so it maybe a little cheaper if you already have Azure credits to just fire up a Linux container if the boss for example wants to close one of the datacenters to cut electricity costs and move their Linux based servers. Amazon already contributes alot of Linux code to get it run on their E3 and E5 platforms I guess this is not surprising that MS is doing the same.

      Microsoft's incentive to being friendly to OSS and Linux now is to make money this way. Microsoft makes money either way in this model whether you run Windows or not. I have not written any software on Azure but it supports FreeBSD as well and RedHat. Maybe the Redhat image already has an MS optimized kernel that I am not aware of? Visual Studio does have IOT Python support for Azure so it looks like they really are not doing win32 lockin at all with Azure but I could be wrong. Anyone knowledge care to comment and how it compares to Amazon's cloud services?

      I figured this story would make slashdotters uncomfortable, but I kind of like this arrangement.

        If you do not want to use their products don't. MS doesn't have to Extend, Expand, and Extinguish standards or lock things down to win32 which we all hate! Rather they make the APIs available to all platforms and several languages to their cloud offerings so you an keep using Linux or use Amazon if you want. However, the downside is the cloud framework hooks lock you into Azure. Amazon though sadly is doing the same. So the OS now is Azure and Windows is just one of the shells on top. Linux is another.

    3. Re:FTFY by 0100010001010011 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Microsoft the Gold Standard. I've worked two places that are looking at Azure and it's made using Linux actually easier.

      "Hey boss, I need some cheap servers to test something out, I can do it with Microsoft". We get billed. I get to use Linux. The company gets "Microsoft".

    4. Re:FTFY by MrKaos · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Wow, it hasn't even been 10 minutes and something that is not even critical of MS and just paints their reality has been down-modded?

      Looks like there is some power shilling going on here or are you so sensitive to some non existent ad-homiem attack? Concerned about my spelling, I did say that I post post hungover, occasionally. Go ahead, mod me down, it just shows how much more credible my argument is and that the truth really hurts.

      Look if it makes you feel better, I thing the MS Server line has come a long way, finally a decent file system and I like the MS is taking a stand on some issues even if it is noise. Microsoft added WSL and because of that I gave Win 10 a chance when I finally got to the point that I realized I didn't need MS anywhere anymore. If you don't get it that I'm not being critical and just pointing to how things have changed then how do you expect to adapt to reality?

      That's what the technology industry is and that is what MS is doing.

      --
      My ism, it's full of beliefs.