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Richard Stallman vs. Canonical's CEO: 'Will Microsoft Love Linux to Death?' (techrepublic.com)
TechRepublic got different answers about Microsoft's new enthusiasm for Linux from Canonical's founder and CEO Mark Shuttleworth, and from Richard Stallman. Stallman "believes that Microsoft's decision to build a Windows Subsystem for Linux (WSL) amounts to an attempt to extinguish software that users are free to run, copy, distribute, study, change and improve."
"It certainly looks that way. But it won't be so easy to extinguish us, because our reasons for using and advancing free software are not limited to practical convenience," he said. "We want freedom. As a way to use computers in freedom, Windows is a non-starter..." Stallman remains adamant that the WSL can only help entrench the dominance of proprietary software like Windows, and undermine the use of free software. "That doesn't advance the cause of free software, not one bit," he says... "The aim of the free software movement is to free users from freedom-denying proprietary programs and systems, such as Windows. Making a non-free system, such as Windows or MacOS or iOS or ChromeOS or Android, more convenient is a step backward in the campaign for freedom..."
For Shuttleworth, Windows' embrace of GNU/Linux is a net positive for open-source software as a whole. "It's not like Microsoft is stealing our toys, it's more that we're sharing them with Microsoft in order to give everyone the best possible experience," he says. "WSL provides users who are well versed in the Windows environment with greater choice and flexibility, while also opening up a whole new potential user base for the open source platform..." Today Shuttleworth takes Microsoft's newfound enthusiasm for GNU/Linux at face value, and says the company has a different ethos to that of the 1990s, a fresh perspective that benefits Microsoft as much as it does open-source software. "Microsoft is a different company now, with a much more balanced view of open and competitive platforms on multiple fronts," he says. "They do a tremendous amount of engineering specifically to accommodate open platforms like Ubuntu on Azure and Hyper-V, and this work is being done in that spirit."
The article also points out that Microsoft "does seem to be laying the groundwork for WSL to extend what's possible using a single GNU/Linux distro today, for instance, letting the user chain together commands from different GNU/Linux distros with those from Windows."
For Shuttleworth, Windows' embrace of GNU/Linux is a net positive for open-source software as a whole. "It's not like Microsoft is stealing our toys, it's more that we're sharing them with Microsoft in order to give everyone the best possible experience," he says. "WSL provides users who are well versed in the Windows environment with greater choice and flexibility, while also opening up a whole new potential user base for the open source platform..." Today Shuttleworth takes Microsoft's newfound enthusiasm for GNU/Linux at face value, and says the company has a different ethos to that of the 1990s, a fresh perspective that benefits Microsoft as much as it does open-source software. "Microsoft is a different company now, with a much more balanced view of open and competitive platforms on multiple fronts," he says. "They do a tremendous amount of engineering specifically to accommodate open platforms like Ubuntu on Azure and Hyper-V, and this work is being done in that spirit."
The article also points out that Microsoft "does seem to be laying the groundwork for WSL to extend what's possible using a single GNU/Linux distro today, for instance, letting the user chain together commands from different GNU/Linux distros with those from Windows."
Microsoft used in Windows 8/10, I do not trust ANYTHING they say. I must view anything and everything they do now as EVIL.
Shuttleworth's optimism seems naive. "Embrace and Extend" has been Microsoft's mantra for how many years?
MS whats linux user to stop dual booting and just use Linux within windows 10 so they can data mine. Microsoft cannot be trusted..ever
Jack of all trades,master of none
MS is probably trying to do as Stallman says but I think they will fail. They may "love" Canonical and Ubuntu to death but Linux will continue.
Right now I'm burning in a new laptop for about a month with Win 10 before putting Linux on it and it is very frustrating as so many of the things I do on Linux have less convenient ways to do them on Windows even with the Windows version of the same program I use on Linux.
By persuading people to run free software under MS Windows, Microsoft gets the ability to subject it to its spyware (sorry, I meant to say: telemetry) and upload the results of key-logging & other snooping that it could not do on a native Linux system.
Has anyone actually verified what MS claims is uploaded ? Do we know who MS shares this information with ?
FTFA :-
Shuttleworth takes Microsoft's newfound enthusiasm for GNU/Linux at face value
Then Shuttleworth is a fool.
[Shuttleworth] says the company has a different ethos to that of the 1990s, a fresh perspective
Indeed : tech has moved on and they have found new ways of screwing the user and new ways of spinning it. This is the company that rammed Win10 spyware down users' throats.
Stallman is right on it, even if it doesn't extinguish Linux overall.
"Forget the engineers." -Carly Fiorina, briber of MIT Technology Review.
he just wants fat cash, he's no geek
The parent commenter apparently meant to say, starting at the title: "Thanks to the Spyware and tactics... Microsoft used in Windows 8/10, I do not trust ANYTHING they say."
Others agree. Here is a Network World article: Windows 10 is possibly the worst spyware ever made. Quote from that story: "Buried in the service agreement is permission to poke through everything on your PC."
If Microsoft had paid ad agencies a billion dollars to convince the public that Microsoft cannot be trusted, the ads would not have been as effective as the abuse of including spyware. My opinion, shared by many others.
"It's a trap!"
-- Admiral Ackbar
-- Alastair
From what I've seen over the years, Stallman is usually right about everything and Shuttleworth is usually wrong.
I'm unfamiliar with Windows preventing API compliant programs from running for political reasons. I'm also unfamiliar with a functioning instance of Windows preventing you from moving your data to another system.
Look, M$ has root. They can add/remove whatever they want whenever they want. Through good faith you trust updates to deliver exactly what they say they do, and I've heard about future or present updates without descriptions in them for what they do? Have they dropped those change-logs yet or not?
And if your system can be connected to you somehow (google about what info M$ collects on your HW) then, as RMS once said, paraphrasing, they could deliver customized software just for you!
If you don't think your precious *nix on another partition can't be rooted by M$, think again. Also think about other programs you've installed. Most are black boxes and cannot be trusted, just like the OS.
I hope your Linux partition(s) are encrypted, at least.
Which one of those guys eats his own toe jam?
You're right. Stallman's position is that of an extremist fanatic. The only reason Linux and OSS has gotten any traction is because people ignore Stallman and do what is practical instead of clinging to ideological purism.
I started using linux back when slackware was first introduced.. if you don't know when that was then go look it up... It was a long long long time ago.. since then I have used a half a dozen flavors of linux and I have used FreeBSD.. I have used SCO .. I have used Netware.. I started using DOS when it was first launched and I remember the amazing 2x Upgrade.. then the 4x upgrade.. Windows 1x .. 3x ..Windows for Workgroups.. NT 3.5 .. NT4 .. I have attended Linux user group meetings since the beginning.. I used an Apple computer not a Mac.. I remember the Mac Plus when it was first introduced and the CX and the first Color Macs.. .. I worked on the Linux Document Project .. Wrote How Tos.. Compiled a full Help File version of the entire Linux Document Project... Over the years I have been friends with half a dozen of the Kernel Developers.. I've gone to their homes and ate meals with them.. I have forgot more about linux, BSD, Apple OS and Windows then most people will ever learn.... AND WHAT THE FUCK DOES ANY OF THIS MATTER?... this and nothing more.. ............ Linux has had 2 decades to build a desktop environment where moderately skilled people can use it for daily tasks of all varieties ... where there are tools exactly comparable or even better in some cases than available on any other platform.. They have excelled in Server Environments when it comes to ease of deployment and availability of tools but in over 20 years they can't come up with a team of developers to make desktop systems available for everyone.. now sure I expect 90% of Linux users to say HEY I CAN DO ANYTHING ON LINUX THAT I CAN ON WINDOWS.. sure you can do the same on either system because YOU CAN'T DO SHIT... I can build Frontends for Databases with VisualBasic in half a day that can be deployed to the Enterprise across a local network or even the world overnight automatically and when the customers come in the next day they click an Icon and they have full access to all of the corporate ordering systems in a secure manner. .. you can't do that on Linux.. ITS LIKE COMPARING GIMP TO PHOTOSHOP.. OR LIBRECAD VS AUTOCAD... NO.. JUST FRICKEN NO... so none of us are stupid.. we all know that I am speaking the truth... 20 fricken years... TWENTY FRICKEN YEARS.... TWENTY... the tools are just not there.. the interest to make it happen is not there.. so lets just call it server software and stop screwing around.. in 20 more years Linux Desktop might approach what Windows or Apple was in 1999.. but it will never catch up.. there will never be the development tools.. and there won't be apps built for it.. At this point ANDROID is looking better than Linux... and thats pitiful
This is so obvious I don't understand how the hell nobody sees that. MS makes software, Linux competes on the same market with MS. What love there can possibly be, except for idiots who can digest things only in easily marketable slogans?
Nerdful is Gnu. Like Trump, needy.
Just starting out with a RHEL system at Azure. Some things dont add up. Just found out I can never get to the system console... Its just not available. What do I do if I kill sshd and log out? Do I have to reboot to restart sshd?
Microsoft will have a hell of a time pressing patents against vendors for software that they distribute under the GPL. I look forward to the end of Windows as it becomes less relevant over time.
I'm not sure who he is referring to when he says "we", when I use Linux it is because it does a particular task better than Windows does, for example controlling the machine remotely. And when I use Windows or macOS it is because it runs the programs I need to run to do a particular task. I'm a Linux user and Windows user and a macOS user, I'm not choosing a tool for a job based on the professed ideology of some of its contributors.
There is some merit to the idea that you shouldn't carry a smartphone, you shouldn't communicate over unencrypted channels, you shouldnt use hardware or software that you don't understand or haven't had vetted by somebody you trust that does understand it, you shouldn't use traceable electronic payment mechanisms, etc but it really isn't practical to take a religious absolutist approach to it so along the way people make compromises, some more than others, but in the general sense if you compromise one you compromise all. For example if you use any reasonably modern Intel or AMD processor it has a remote access backdoor which can theoretically compromise your whole system.
So I do understand Stallman's point that you could be compromised by a malicious actor with sufficient enough resources but is there really any practical scenario where you can be confident that can't happen? I would say probably not, so where is the sweet spot of compromise between privacy/security and practicality?
Well, I agree with RMS, I will only believe Microsoft actions are genuine if Microsoft forces all proprietary blobs, drivers and firmware to be opened up under a FSF compatible license.
If Microsoft are so keen to embrace the whole open source thing, instead of meddling in Linux they could open source Windows.
You can love it. But it won't love you back.
Guys, MS has said themselves them love Open Source and love Linux now. They're under new leadership and things really look to have changed a corner. Look at some of the big projects they open sourced lately:
* VS Code (MIT) .Net Core (MIT)
* Typescript (Apache 2.0)
*
* Powershel (MIT)
https://opensource.microsoft.com/
So, WSL will include or support a fully functional X server? (Not just that Wayland crap.)
Have gnu, will travel.
They're both not wrong. Microsoft's use of WSL won't further the cause of free software. But it will still benefit open source (just not Free software). Right now, the WSL arrangement makes Ubuntu the mitochondria, but one could argue it could happen the other way around. Even though it is technologically subsumed into Windows via WSL, it could be argued that it is Windows that is being co-opted by Ubuntu from a strategic standpoint.
Those who do not learn from commit history are doomed to regress it.
plus some bankers.., infomaniacs,, hired goons.. sounds repetitive? give them what for mr. stallman.. thanks again.. you've done a lot for us slow learners... some people still think it's a goat's head...
I have a suspicion about this guy. Indians are who Microsoft uses to pad tech support departments that it doesn't give a shit about. To go from that to making one CEO is suspicious, especially if he talks about AI with the fervency of a CIA agent.
I see nothing positive in making Linux a subsystem of Windows. When talking to people in the future Linux will be referred to as something that is part of Windows.
Microsoft has not changed and Shuttleworth knows it.
There is no net gain here for open source.
You can lead a man with reason but you can't make him think.
The only reason Linux and OSS has gotten any traction is because people ignore Stallman and do what is practical
Linux succeeded because Linus paid attention to RMS and put an appropriate license on linux.
Last time I checked, you needed to purchase an iPhone to get iOS, and those are most definitely not free.
Last time I checked, you needed to purchase a Mac to get OSX, and those are even more expensive.
And, given the very long EULA required to actually use either, one that places considerable restrictions on its users at that, they are not Free either.
-- I ain't broke, but I'm badly bent.
No, but only because it isn't. You are talking about the wrong use of the word free. It means libre in this context, not gratis.
Guns don't kill people; Physics kills people! - John Lithgow as Dick Solomon on Third Rock From The Sun
You fools are still waging this jihad against Microsoft, while Google just came in and stole your golden goose. Morons.
I just tried the latest CentOS release. Dual booting so I needed to add my windows partition to grub2. No NTFS support in the kernel and the default repository doesn't have it. So I added that and added the entry to the grub2 config. I tried Chromium but it looked like shit and uBlock wouldn't install. uBlock gave some error about embedded image and googling that results in one unrelated hit. So I tried the actual Chrome build. Fonts looked better and uBlock installed. Five minutes later the keyboard froze up and the mouse still worked. Goodbye CentOS you aren't ready yet.
I'm keeping an eye out for a good used Xeon E5 box. Going to install ESXI and do GPU passthrough for several operating systems including OS X. Because Windows 10 is terrible and so is Linux.
Only the State obtains its revenue by coercion. - Murray Rothbard
Embrace.
"For Shuttleworth, Windows' embrace of GNU/Linux is a net positive for open-source software as a whole."
Extend.
"Microsoft 'does seem to be laying the groundwork for WSL to extend what's possible using a single GNU/Linux distro today, for instance, letting the user chain together commands from different GNU/Linux distros with those from Windows.'"
Extinguish.
https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.c...
Since its inception, Microsoft Windows NT was designed to allow environment subsystems like Win32 to present a programmatic interface to applications without being tied to implementation details inside the kernel. This allowed the NT kernel to support POSIX, OS/2 and Win32 subsystems at its initial release.
This is actually an NT subsystem, like the OS/2 subsystem. It's actually really cool engineering. Linux syscalls run through this subsystem and are translated into windows subsystems calls. This meant lots of interesting problems to figure out, like different behavior of fork. When there's no windows syscall to translate to, then the fake linux kernel has to implement the work itself
Still better than Android where you have to buy a whole new device any time a security patch comes out.
Mr. Stallman is a prophet: one of those old testament prophets who live in a desert for 30 years, don't bathe, live on crickets and funky mushrooms, and brings critical warnings to the chosen people. Such prophets have often been right and led their chosen people into a promised land, or saved them from floods or the destruction of a vengeful god. But they are *not* popular, they're not pleasant, and the establishment does not want to throw out their offices and their stock options to listen to such prophets.
That's like going out and spending money you don't have to to buy a compact car, which which you intend to drag the armored combat TANK you just got for free around.
The tank is more powerful, capable of tackling LOTS more terrain, has a really big GUN on it, but you've HEARD someone say that his cousin's boss's son's girlfriend's bestie's dad once looked into one of these tanks, and it only had an 8-track stereo in it, and you REALLY want to listen to the music app on your smartphone while you drive home, so you're going to try to drag a 70 ton tank with a 1 ton, 4-banger car.
The whole point of HAVING the tank is that it's more powerful, you're safer inside, it can go pretty much anywhere the car can go, especially if you know how to drive, and while people do give these tanks away for FREE many of which are these days, LARGELY self-driving, automated to the point where they're not MUCH more complex than a car to drive, you're going to try to put the part that should, if ANYTHING, be dragging the car, (running a VM inside a GNU/Linux install, with MS Windows (or WINE, pref'y) if you REALLY MUST... ) in a position where the car is trying to drag IT... It just makes NO SENSE.
Oh, and if you open the audio panel, put your phone on it, it will automatically play any file on it, without you having to do anything, but you don't know that because you WANT the tank, but are too scared to try and drive it. Oh... you MIGHT have to go tell the tank "$ sudo alsa_audio.d -enable audio-out --channels=4..." if the audio subsystem of the tank doesn't play your MP3s automatically... or something, but there are a million people who could tell you that, (not a real command, obviously, but similar, amiright?)
I agree with all those who quote Adm. Ackbar.... "IT'S A TRAP!" and as always, fuck Microsoft and all their evil. I will enjoy tapdancing on their corporate grave. In fact, if they look likely to perish, I will have to buy tap shoes and take lessons, just to be able to do that. Looking FORWARD to it, LOL!
You present these statements about Gnome, Firefox et cetera as facts.
But how do you know Microsoft hasn't infiltrated those projects to try to destroy them from within? Given that company's history, how could you put it past them?
Pretty much M$ embracing Linux at this stage is a shear act of panic and desperation. They are loathsome scum, they thought of Windows anal probe 10 (because when doctors use, M$ follows you right into the proctologists surgery and now monitors that camera hooked to a Windows 10 PC right up your butt). Strictly speaking according to law, Windows 10 should be legally banned from doctors offices https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... , yet it doesn't happen, why doesn't it happen, well, guess who M$ has guaranteed a back door to, yep, corrupt government agencies, hence no prosecution for a clear cut criminal act. You also have https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/..., windows anal probe 10 again floating law by not ensuring the privacy of client lawyer discussion (both sides by law are require to be secure, guess who wants that back door), take M$ to court, when you and your lawyer have windows 10 installed, yep, uh huh, good luck with that.
It is not only evil, it is factually illegal and it is not being prosecuted, why the fuck not?!?
Chaos - everything, everywhere, everywhen
Go chew stuff off your foot Stallman.
There's a very interesting chapter about Richard Stallman in "Hackers: Heroes of the Computer Revolution".
Exception that proves the rule..
Stallman: Mmm, this thing that I just picked off of my foot is delicious.
Shuttleworth. Eww, gross! I'm going to throw up...
Ubuntu is a Canonical product, but AFAIK, the meaningful measure of revenue comes from Ubuntu Advantage. Mobile failed, and any dreams of bundled storage and app services, plus any vendor licensing deals that could have come from it. I'm seeing this as an adaptation of that model; where WSL is just another distribution channel for Ubuntu could serve as a funnel for UA. "Land and Expand" meets "Embrace and Extinguish".
I disagree; we should not judge the software by the person or organization that wrote or published it. We should reject the vast majority of Microsoft's software because that software is non-free (user-subjugating, proprietary) software. We can't trust any non-free software. This has nothing to do with its author. Microsoft's free software is like any other free software: we can evaluate its trustworthiness by inspecting the code, and if necessary improving the code. Then we can help ourselves by running that improved code (if it is helpful to us), and we can help our community by distributing copies of the improved code. These are the freedoms we get with free software and we should respect all computer users' software freedom regardless of the authors of that code.
Digital Citizen
Shuttleworth is naive if he thinks the purpose of WSL is other than moving GNU/Linux users from Linux to Windows.
But Stallman is equally naive if he thinks every GNU user does it because of philosophical reasons. From all the people I know using GNU/Linux, almost everyone does it because of convenience reasons, not because of the 'free as in freedom' mantra.
you can milk them before you slaughter them. A new era of peaceful coexistence of humans and cows has started.
Stick out your udders. You know you'll enjoy the human touch.
Has Stallman finished eating his toe skin? or is that his only source of food because he wont eat non-free foods? i.e. closed source recipes from absolutely proprietary food companies.
He's a big man... I wonder how ethical his eating actually is?
If a lesson should be learned, Microsoft destroys its partners from within (Novel and Nokia were not the only ones).
Well, there is nothing more annoying than a zealot and raving fanatic who keeps being right. What does that say about our world and our views?
Nothing one wants to hear.
You're right. Stallman's position is that of an extremist fanatic.
That's what makes it so embarrassing that he keeps being right. Decent persons wear blinders and rely on the system to promote the common good.
I personnally dont give a shit about what these companies. The veey act of thm even creating source code for Linux (Android) or integraing better - microsoft - is disturbing. Shuttleworth is naive. Stallman is correct.
I understand some of the Stallman's ideas but they're just an ideology and zero practice. The software should be Free as in Freedom, not Free in Charge. But we have seen is that GPL makes the software Free as in Beer. Selling a GPLed software to consumers is like selling sand in a desert. That's the reason why there'll newer be "The Year of the Linux Desktop", nobody will write a clean consistent GUI and do a proper QA and regression testing if doesn't bring an income. The same goes for other FOSS projects. With the advent of the GPL3 bullshit the commercial world shunt away from "Free Software" and began to switch to "Open Source". One good example is GCC vs Clang. Years ago people were saying that Clang would never reach the maturity of GCC. But now many large companies like Google have switched to Clang because it has much better static analysis, PGO and better integration with an IDE which GCC refuses cause of fear of proprietary plugins. Even Linux kernel developers are considering switching to Clang. https://lwn.net/SubscriberLink... Like it or not but GCC's era will end sooner or later. Another example is Google's Fuchsia. When ideology and practice collide, practice always wins.
If Microsoft has really changed, then where are our exFAT kernel modules for Linux already?
Exception that proves the rule..
Stallman: Mmm, this thing that I just picked off of my foot is delicious.
Shuttleworth. Eww, gross! I'm going to throw up...
Have you tried it?
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
That HURDs to read. Stallmans opinions suffer a survivorship bias, complete failures are simply forgotten. However I can agree on Shuttleworth being wrong.
Is it time to call this GNU/Windows yet ?
They themselves said Linux is a cancer, right? So if anything they're trying to extinguish Windows by getting more Windows users to use Linux software until they don't need the Windows wrapper anymore. I'll drink to that :)
"Everybody's naked underneath" -- The Doctor
the ads would not have been as effective as the abuse of including spyware
Err no. $1bn buys you the eyeballs of the world. The vast majority of Windows 10 users on the other hand don't know the extent of the spying or don't give a shit. Just because it's in the tech news doesn't mean people in general know or care.
I don't really want to defend Windows 10, I wouldn't use it myself... But what specific telemetry do you think would violate doctor-patient or attorney-client privilege?
They published what they collect, and it's metadata about usage. Doesn't include user file names or file content, for example. If you have proof otherwise then I would genuinely love to see it, because I'd like to see Microsoft get prosecuted and forced to change their ways, but as far as I know there isn't any.
const int one = 65536; (Silvermoon, Texture.cs)
SJW, n: "Someone I don't like, and by the way I'm a fuckwit" - AC
They just want Linux tools and Windows tools to coexist. That way programs will be written that use both together in the same environment, making some new situations where Linux/OSS solutions will now depend on proprietary Windows tools and MS services.
Twinstiq, game news
"Microsoft is a different company now," .. translation: I'm now also on their payroll.
(obvious troll comment)
The "world" doesn't matter as much. What matters is what technically-knowledgeable people think.
However, Microsoft's policy of forcing users to migrate from earlier Windows versions to Window 10 certainly convinced a lot of people who don't have technical knowledge.
Actually I'm right twice.
Once through being objective, and twice for figuring in advance that I'm going to be modded down to oblivion.
Mind you, I wasn't trolling at all. It's a personal opinion based on past experience.
Extremists are bad, no matter which side they are. More so when they're opinion makers. They're the ones digging the hatchet of war up every fucking time.
...gis sdrawkcab (usually not responding to ACs; don't bother posting as AC)
Bullshit!
The authors (AND their intent) is center focus.
It's the PRIMARY thing that matters.
Windows coming at night look like accept a wolf in a lambyard. no less
RMS vs Shuttleworth == Free Software vs Open Source.
There is NO WAY to be a fight between an ideological reason (Free Software) and an Academic/Practical reason based in facts in the software industry (Open Source). Both ones have different reasons (liberty, open collaboration, etc) and will not be coincident in "Why" do the things needed, and maybe in some "How" questions too.
The author thinks that bash "...is the default shell included within Ubuntu...". Sometimes I think that too after a new (K)unbuntu install and then my scripts start acting funny and I am forcefully reminded that Ubuntu for some reason installs something called 'ash'. The same by the way is true for awk and gawk and only God knows why this so.
Anyway, I think WSL is no big deal. Twenty years ago there were already several ways to run the bash command line and Unix commands under Windows, all more or less satisfactory. And suddenly they would turn around and bite you. I suspect that it is the same for the newer ones.
Paai
Can someone update Stallman to the fact that macOS and iOS are free?
First let me verify this: Where can the owner of a Mac or an iPhone get the source code of current macOS in order to adapt it to a Mac that Apple no longer supports, or the source code of current iOS in order to adapt it to an iPhone that Apple no longer supports?
Well, there is Darwin which is the open-sourced kernel (without GUI) of MacOSX. However, Apple has been dragging its feet on timely releasing it that the OpenDarwin project, bent on releasing something useful based on Apple's "open" efforts, had to shutter its operation.
If MS were being upfront about making it easier for users wanting to run both Linux and Windows they would make it easy to install any version of Windows in any type of VM in a Linux system. Such a VM can use the MS-Windows licence stuck somewhere on most consumer and business grade PC's. Of course that puts the Linux system in the driving seat where it can monitor or block any spyware traffic originating in the Windows VM.
i want all windows workers to lose their jobs as microsoft shrivels up and dies and no other company will hire these vile whores to work for them. may they die on the streets with their bratty family in tow. fuck them all.
What matters is what technically-knowledgeable people think.
The past 2 years especially has proven definitively that we don't matter at all.
Holy flashback to the 1990s, Batman!
Eventually, I think, we will find ways to avoid Microsoft. I suggest that all nations support ReactOS.
They published what they want people to believe that they collect. Microsoft still has full access to everything on any computer running Windows 10. Just because they haven't exercised that power and been caught changes nothing.
Also, why isn't Microsoft paying people for that "metadata"? Seems to me like their customers are being used as unpaid QA. Microsoft needs to stop being such a deadbeat company and start paying people for the work that they do helping to shape the development of Windows.
Shuttleworth runs a company that introduced more people to desktop Linux than anyone else and actually made it kind of hip with people like Gabe Newell who in turn brought a gigantic library of games that are not trash to the platform. Stallman is a disgusting hippie who—in the rare moments when he is not eating his own feet—is still butthurt about the operating system not being called GNU Linux.
I am certain that the guy who couldn’t even get people to accept the crap name he thought up for the software he provided free of charge is the right person to ask on how to not get your product consumed by a competitor. You know, as opposed to that other guy that actually built a successful business around it.
Time for your meds now.
There isn't a single instance where those prophets were right. Lots of instances where they were proven to be complete lunatics though. The Stallman case included.
I'm over 50 years old and have seen Microsoft dominate and used every tactic to stay there. As RMS said, this is yet another tactic by Microsoft to cloak its true goal to extinguish GNU/Linux. Lots of Microserfs will say the opposite because it's in their intere$ts. GNU/Linux and associated Digital freedoms are not about placing Micro$oft's interests first. It's disappointing to see Canonical becoming complicit with Microsoft at this extraordinary level as to let them into the GNU/Linux kernel, the core of everything GNU/Linux. It's also a great way to destroy GNU/Linux currently superior performance to ensure Windows has the best benchmarks effectively giving Microsoft the green light to more profit.
I for one would never use this Microsoft/Canonical kernel and will be sticking to the Non-Microsoft stuff. I would love to see what Linus Torvalds has to say about this. Which one is more important: Keeping Microsoft #1 or Digital Freedom?
M$ have repeatedly reset privacy settings upon compulsory upgrades for every single user and don't even try to pretend it has not happened and that would be a criminal act, under law, which was not prosecuted.
Chaos - everything, everywhere, everywhen