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Department of Justice Demands Facebook Information From 'Anti-Administration Activists' (cnn.com)
PopeRatzo shares a report from CNN: Trump administration lawyers are demanding the private account information of potentially thousands of Facebook users in three separate search warrants served on the social media giant, according to court documents obtained by CNN. The warrants specifically target the accounts of three Facebook users who are described by their attorneys as "anti-administration activists who have spoken out at organized events, and who are generally very critical of this administration's policies." One of those users, Emmelia Talarico, operated the disruptj20 page where Inauguration Day protests were organized and discussed; the page was visited by an estimated 6,000 users whose identities the government would have access to if Facebook hands over the information sought in the search warrants. In court filings, Talarico says if her account information was given to the government, officials would have access to her "personal passwords, security questions and answers, and credit card information," plus "the private lists of invitees and attendees to multiple political events sponsored by the page."
Trump must have watched the Catalan news reports and said... Can I do that?
The Trump Administration is evil. I suppose I am now a target.
If what you're resisting is respect for people of other races, that makes you racist.
If what you're resisting is racism, that makes you not racist.
What you appear to be doing is playing word games, because it's easier to be right when you control all the words. But resisting bad things is good, and resisting good things can be bad.
Step away from the words and start working on the concepts.
http://fortune.com/2017/09/29/...
https://lawnewz.com/crazy/doj-...
You are welcome on my lawn.
Why exactly would FB have Talarico's credit card information in the first place? Is FB not free anymore?
I do not belong to the church of the lowercase 'i'
This president not only hasn't read the constitution, but wouldn't care even if had, and he's made that clear. Show me where the is a violent crime or public threat to people's physical safety, and perhaps I'll consider, But this is simply a witch hunt for anyone who speaks out openly against the Trump administration. American was supposed to be a place where people political opinion and protests were supposed to be allowed without government intimidation. A government elected by the people (which the electoral college vote is not I might add). This is as bad as the McCarthy days. Every time this president does something that is in violation to the constitution, there should be a vote in congress to impeach him. But of course that won't happen, until this president embarrasses this country and his party so badly that we are in danger of being cut off from the world. (Which given his UN performance, I wouldn't rule out). I suspect Facebook and other IT organizations will resist this. Perhaps Twitter should consider censoring his statements. Technically a constitutional violation as well, but ...this "twit" can do far more damage than anyone posting on Twitter of Facebook single handed.
This just isn't right. If they are seeking the ID of people who posed actual physical threats, or were involved in UNLAWFUL activity (such as genuine libel, inciting riots, participating in violence or riots, etc), that might be justified.
Being caught up in an ID disclosure just because one visited a web site or Facebook page goes well beyond what could possibly necessary.
More info needed, especially when it is a CNN article.
To take one example, Antifa has gained the distinction of being labeled a 'domestic terrorist organisation' in a very short time for throwing urnine bombs and punching a few Nazis while the Ku Klux Klan is still not considered worthy of that title even though it has been waging a campaign of lynchings, murder, rape and terrorist bombings for 150 years. From the Trump administration's point of view there is nothing wrong with that picture so what makes you think they don't consider themselves to have ample justification for cracking down on people who committed the unpardonable crime of visiting Trump critical Facebook pages? After all, Antifa and other organisations like it are a clear threat to Trump's 'base'. From the point of view of the likes of Sessions, Trump, Bannon, Miller, Gorka, and the rest of that ilk nothing is more natural than a president using his authority to persecute his political opponents.
Some of us deplored government overreach under the previous administration, and still deplore it under the current administration.
The difference is that now you're willing to speak about it publicly.
When we used to hold the Soviet Union up to the light, we'd point to their jailing and beating and disappearances of dissidents and say "The USSR is a police state!"
Nothing's changed here except the geography. These tactics are still police state tactics, no matter which dictator-wannabe is practicing them.
John
Because EVERYBODY who got destroyed by the House Un-American Activities Committee was trying to overthrow the government... oh that's right they weren't
Those who refuse to learn from History are doomed to repeat it
There is a difference between resisting taxation because you don't like Obama and resisting the government trying to deport your family or take away the healthcare that is keeping you alive.
This kind of false equivalence argument is the new favourite of the far right. "Yes we are bad, but they are the same and you are a hypocrite for not acknowledging that".
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SJW, n: "Someone I don't like, and by the way I'm a fuckwit" - AC
The con artist has repeatedly praised his buddy Putin at every opportunity, even going so far as to apologize for Putin's military deliberately bombing hospitals and civilians in Syria, and Russia's support for the dictator Assad.
It is well known Putin doesn't like or tolerate dissent. In Crimea, which Russia stole from the Ukraine, Russia troops went door to door in the Tartar community and rounded up anyone who spoke out against the takeover. They shut down Tartar schools and the only Tartar radio station, and forbid the teaching of the Tartar language. Just recently, Russia jailed a Tartar leader because he led protests against the Russian invasion of Crimea.
Witness now in the U.S. what the con artist is trying to do. His fragile ego can't stand anyone saying a single bad word about him and so he does this. He's only following the lead of his buddy Putin.
That using the power of the government to go after people who exercise their First Amendment rights should even be an issue speaks volumes about this administration.
I try not to get too political.
You mean to say, that you try to cover yourself with a pretense of being "not too political" in order to give a false air of legitimacy to your faux grievances?
However, I can't help but notice how it's now "your civic duty" to "resist" and generally disparage the government.
Ah, picking up the messaging of the right-wing that carried over from Reagan, huh?
Questioning their authority has long been a problem of the right-wing conservative branch. They were even worse when beating the anti-Communist drum. There's a reason why McCarthy ran rampant.
Prior to January 20, 2017, that meant you were a racist deplorable scumbag.
When you embrace Cliven Bundy, Phil Robertson, Joe Arpaio and the birther-in-chief himself, Donald Trump, does that not make you one of their racist brotherhood? I mean, it isn't like you are giving them like the love to a leper victim, you were shouting your devotion in chorus.
Still are. You can't even let NFL players kneel in protest without having a fit. You'd probably explode if they used the Black Power Salute.
Journalists were being tossed in the pokey, phones were being tapped to find "leakers", etc. Apparently, now that's all just police state tactics.
Yeah, sorry, Fox News tried that already.
The real question is, why are you so suddenly supportive of the "police" state you allegedly deplored, why do you demand everybody march to the orders of your glorious leader, why do you insist so vehemently that everything is going well and that you should get all the credit for it?
The ONLY reason you aren't living in the Reich TODAY, is because of Men Like MY Grandfather, who has a purple heart AND medal of honor for his service in World War 2... My Family Killed Nazis BEFORE YOU WERE BORN ... Punk!
In the halls of justice, the only justice is in the halls - Lenny Bruce (1923 - 1966)
I note that you conveniently leave out the part where #disruptj20 was caught on camera plotting to attack people at the inaugural ball? Or how they planned to chain trains and otherwise shut down DC? Have we forgotten about violent assaults like the woman whose hair was lit on fire?
They're investigating all of the people who were plotting violent attacks, including the planned release of butyric acid into the ventilation systems of the ball. Oh, that's just a "stink bomb" you say, but c'mon, really? You expect people to identify which acid they're breathing in and not be forced to evacuate the building into a pile of police and protesters on a freezing cold day?
Sorry, but this is a criminal act that they're investigating. They're allowed to find out who was involved in it and given that #disruptj20 was criminal, they have reasonable suspicion to look at anyone involved. You don't get to plot crimes and then complain because the police are investigating. They're going after #disruptj20 because the leaders of it were caught planning criminal activity, not because they criticized the president.
The people who tried to attack others at the inauguration knew or should've known what they were getting into.
> The gov't should investigate people based on their threat risk
Why do you think they aren't?
Here's video evidence of some of the crimes #disruptj20 was plotting:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHZSfhd1X_8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIjbkYLI1nY
And here is one of those 'peaceful protesters' at the inauguration lighting a lady's hair on fire:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eY5WTDgV4ik
There's no reason for society to pick & choose, they should arrest ALL people plotting or performing violent acts.
And by "involved", you mean everyone who ever looked at their Facebook page?
You're citing Project Veritas videos as evidence, dude. How many times do you need James O'Keefe to be exposed as a fraudster before you'll learn?
You are welcome on my lawn.
If they are investigating a criminal act and have evidence for several plots, why don't they just get a warrant? Why ask Facebook for something that a judge can compel them to provide? Maybe the Justice Department doesn't know how warrants work?
But liking the page isn't a crime. It doesn't mean you're planning to commit a crime. Approving of people planning a crime is not illegal. Had they confined their information demand to people who posted something indicating participation, I'd agree with you. They did not, instead opting to make the demand as broad as possible in a clear bid to chill speech.
Less racist than Black Lives Matter, whose name is an explicit statement of racism and black supremacism.
Some here seem to miss the very important point that the simple words "Black Lives Matter" does nothing to indicate that any other color of life does not matter equally. Yes there are certainly those who take up the banner and misuse the concept. But the concept is fundamentally correct. To argue against the words Black Lives Matter is the same as agreeing with the prejudiced assholes in Newfoundland where the popular theme is that they dealt with their uppity native Indians long ago and they were nothing but a useless bunch of trouble makers anyway as many who live there are still lead to believe. Same thing in British Columbia where many belittle the Carrier Indians to this day and call them nothing but a "useless bunch of horse and cattle thieves". Yes prejudice is rampant and the US is not alone but it can be exposed for what it is and eventually become socially unacceptable the same way eventually misogyny will.
The truth is the lives of all races of people matter and the fact is that there are still a huge number of closet racists in the US that believe as Wallace did in "segregation now and segregation forever!" This fact creates the need for greater awareness of how fucked up the US is especially each time some racist dick head like Zimmerman in Florida gets away with murdering an innocent black.
No it is plain and simple the US is screwed by prejudice and the fact that a simple conceptual truth using the words "Black Lives Matter" can be twisted by racists to mean something other than what the words say speaks volumes about how twisted these KKK wanta bee assholes really are including a quite a few who wield power. Notice how quiet David Duke is right now, there is a reason. There are enough idiots hard at work putting forth the racist agenda that he can sit back and work on his political base in the shadows. Yes there are those within BLM who disgrace the memory of Martin Luther King and Rosa Parks, but the concept of Black Lives Matter is a truth and to a great many in the US a truth that burns very deeply indeed.
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"it has been debunked". Sure. Convenient you leave no source to said debunking. So thoroughly debunked, Robert Creamer had to resign after Project Veritas exposed him : http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/18/...
Even CNN had to report on it. "Debunked" means "It was factual, but I hate it" to some of you people.
"Not to mention all the idiots who use words like boxen."
Anonymous Coward on Monday August 04, @06:49PM
"everyone who disagrees with you" IS a NAZI, if they hold Nazi ideals, spout NAZI rhetoric and salute people who serve the Confederate Flag instead of the Constitution.
If you happen to be one, you SHOULD be offended, often, and pointedly
I remind you that wages were at their peak as a percentage of GDP under Clinton (so much for bread lines) and the only thought policing I've seen is Trump demanding that black men shut up about the murder of unarmed black men or else be fired
Even for a rightwing buffoon, that was a stupid line
Nazis weren't socialists dolt
Using the word in their name NDSP no more proves them socialist than People's Republic makes NK a Republic.
Believe all that truth about the racist republicans, like White Power Conference headline speakers Tom DeLay, Trent Lott and Dick Armey in 1992-1997
Since no one has "exposed" Antifa for terrorists, given that they have never initiated violence and have never murdered anyone, (Which your friends have done)
Seriously chump, you make yourself look the liar this way.
No, we mean the guy who attacked a crowd intending to kill people AND THEN had his windows smashed.