Google Scraps Controversial Policy That Gave Free Access To Paywalled Articles Through Search (theverge.com)
For years, Google has provided a nifty trick to get around subscriptions for newspapers and magazines. But the company is now doing away with it. From a report: Google is ending its controversial First Click Free (FCF) policy that publishers loathed because it required them to allow Google search results access to news articles hidden behind a paywall. The company is replacing the decade-old FCF with Flexible Sampling, which allows publishers instead to decide how many (if any) articles they want to allow potential subscribers to access. Google says it's also working on a suite of new tools to help publishers reach new audiences and grow revenue. Via FCF, users could access an article for free but would be prompted to log-in or subscribe if they clicked anywhere else on the page. Publishers were required to allow three free articles per day which Google indexed so that they appeared in searches for a particular topic or keyword. Opting out of the FCF feature was detrimental because it demoted a publisher's ranking on Google Search and Google News.
Hopefully, Google will also recognize paywalled sites and refuse to index them, or at least put them at the bottom of the results.
"National Security is the chief cause of national insecurity." - Celine's First Law
Give me as a user the optional to hide sites with paywalls.
I too have a decades-old policy: I don't use pay-walled sites.
Protect your browser with the Force Safe Search add-on
Sexxy! ;-P
I have found that if you enforce javascript blocking using NoScript, some sites that only want you to be able to view a certain 'count' of articles for free just can't keep track and don't block you.
incognito mode helps get around Paywalls especially when they have "free" versions for new visitors.
Agent K: A *person* is smart. People are dumb, stupid, panicky animals, and you know it.
I DONT WANT content in search results that I can't actually view.
Fine, get rid of FCF if you want, but then either blacklist subscription sites from search indexes, OR require indexed content match what I can see and
give me a checkbox to omit them from search results (preferably checked by default).
I'd much rather we get something closer to the BBC, more than the circus-for-money we currently have in American media.
The problem with that is that it'd be government-owned, and most Americans wouldn't trust it at all.
Remember, at least half of Americans believe that 9/11 was staged by the government.
Just delete your cookies and you're good to go.
Not sure what you consider far right or Christian. Looking at the top 10 results in google news (signed out) shows NPR, Bloomberg (x2), BBC, CNN, NY Times (x2), Al-Bawaba, and Washington Post (x2). None of these strike me as either of those and some quintessentially the opposite.
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As with many others here, I don't want results from sites that I can't visit. I understand that Google wants the data, but there's no reason that I need to see that mixed in. Google currently has a feature for Chrome users that not many people seem to be aware of called the Personal Blocklist. You can get the extension from Google here:
https://chrome.google.com/webs...
After you've installed it, when you're on a google search results page, you'll see a small link to "block example.com" under each result. No more articles from Forbes or pictures from pinterest that you can't browse through. Hope that helps someone!
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I constantly see (signed out; I never sign into Google News or other services at work), including in today's feed along side the usuals (BBC, NYT, WaPo, CNN, Reuters, etc.):
Fox News
ChristianityToday.com
The Narrative Times
RT
I frequently also see Breitbart and Washington Times, though not today.
I have good news and bad news.
But they do need to come of with some way to notate pay walled articles
Good news: Google Search on desktop browsers fairly reliably notates paywalled articles through the lack of "Cached" in the down arrow menu.
Bad news: The down arrow menu doesn't appear in mobile browsers.
and while they're at it flag the sites that pester you to turn off your ad block to view an article.
Bad news: Now that Google has established its pay-per-article system known as Contributor, Google has actually joined the anti-adblock brigade. It even recommends that users of Firefox Private Browsing click a button labeled "Disable protection" to allow access to a site. (This is because most anti-adblock can't tell the difference between tracking blockers, which block only ad networks and exchanges that track users across sites, and actual ad blockers, which additionally block self-hosted ads.) Now that TV Tropes is using anti-adblock, I'm even more glad that I switched to All The Tropes years ago.
PBS and NPR exist. They're not government agencies, though they are funded by a mix of contributions from government programs and viewers like you (thank you).
I will only be truly disappointed if Google does not clearly flag them in search results
Paywalled documents use <meta name="robots" content="noarchive">. Google Search flags results with noarchive on desktop (look for lack of "Cached") but not on mobile.
Publishers were required to allow three free articles per day which Google indexed so that they appeared in searches for a particular topic or keyword. Opting out of the FCF feature was detrimental because it demoted a publisher's ranking on Google Search and Google News.
Wait wait hold on a sec. I thought Google played innocent on rankings by claiming it was all algorithms.
(-1: Post disagrees with my already-settled worldview) is not a valid mod option.
I do sometimes see Fox and Washington Times but at no higher rate, more often less, than NY Times, BBC, etc. I also see articles from Al Jazzera and the Hindu Times.
Personally I use Google News specifically because it gives me a view from diverse perspectives. If it only showed sources from the left or the right I would stop using it. I believe the truth is usually somewhere in the middle and I can't find that if I only get news from only one perspective.
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Among sites that appear in Google Search results displayed to me, I have perceived the noarchive value as noticeably correlated with conditional access methods, such as paywall or anti-adblock. If there were no desire for conditional access, a rational site operator would allow archiving even if only to shift the hosting burden for old documents to archive operators. For an example of such shifting, see here:
Your experience appears to differ from mine. Which sites using noarchive that lack conditional access do you commonly see in results from Google Search?
As usual, many of the comments reflect the idea that us peons are Google's customers. We want Google to cater to OUR needs, instead of Google's real customers...those who pay Google real money to show up in search results. It is funny to hear people who never want to pay a cent for anything expect their needs to be considered by (and be a top priority for) various businesses who are in it for the money.
It's not necessarily "crazy" (not like infowars.com garbage), but it absolutely is religious in nature. Something about "God's goal" is not "news", it's religious claptrap, even if in the end they are agreeing with my personal opinion on homosexuality. It's nice to see the Christians (or some of them) turning against prosperity gospel, but again, that's religious stuff, not general "news".
Personally, I think it'd be perfectly fine to put that kind of thing into a news aggregator as something that users can choose to see in their feeds. But don't make it part of the default.
I'm not able to come up with a list for you at the moment, but I do see it often. I do it on my own sites as well: I use "noarchive" to prevent the caching of pages that change frequently (typically, this is the front page), and allow caching on pages that don't. This is the pattern I usually see with non-paywalled sites.
There are no subscriptions I'm willing to pay for, other than water, gas, electricity, garbage and Internet. If I'm not willing to subscribe to newspapers, cable TV, streaming TV/movies, magazines, etc. I'm definitely not going to consider subscribing to your online site. I really hope google makes it possible for you to be hidden from me.
Christianity Today is absolutely coming from a specific perspective (please name the new organization that is not), but I think they're a decent news outlet nonetheless.
They aren't sneaky about what their slant is, and despite their slant, they actually engage in solid, honest, and relatively unbiased journalism.
I'm not Christian, but I still consider them one of the more respectable outlets these days.
Damn, my brain farted hard in that comment. I confused Christianity Today with a different site. Please ignore everything I said there.
Yeah, paywalls keep the stupid out. Nothing more.
Agent K: A *person* is smart. People are dumb, stupid, panicky animals, and you know it.
You must be thinking of the Christian Science Monitor. That's something else altogether. CSM has been around for decades, long before the WWW.
I'd never even heard of ChristianityToday.com until I noticed Google News pushing it in the last few months. AFAICT, it's just "news" for Christians. That's OK, I guess, but it's not "general interest", any more than "IslamToday.com" or "ScientologyToday.com" would be, and a general-interest news aggregator has no business putting their stories in the default feed. Allowing users to select it is another matter.
Yes, I was.
Oh goody.. Now I will NOT be tempted to follow more bad news.... This will greatly aid my withdrawal from the internet as it has become.
Google says that paywalled news sites won't get downranked. It may be true in the sense that there won't be an explicit penalty.
However, a common reaction after hitting a paywall is to go back to the search page and find something else. Normally, in that situation, googles downranks the offending site, considering that it didn't match the user's needs.
...but when I hit a paywall, I always close the window. There are so many other ways to get information today, it's not worth me trying to figure out if the content is worth buying if I can't even get to hit. That goes double for that stupid Forbes loading screen as well.
Given the recent article "LinkedIn Says It's Illegal To Scrape Its Website Without Permission", LinkedIn probably has some sort of quota on profile views by the general public, like a metered paywall.
Exactly. That's why I like to see other news sources besides American mainstream ones, so BBC, Al Jazeera, and Hindu Times are interesting to read for this reason. But Breitbart and Infowars are just a complete waste of time, as is Fox News. Fox is so obviously slanted, and the other two are just tabloid trash making up bullshit (like Infowars continuing with the 9/11 "truther" conspiracy-theory nonsense after all these years).
I use "noarchive" to prevent the caching of pages that change frequently
That is absolutely not what noarchive is for -- there are are other directives to control caching.
Noarchive is for asserting that projects and tools such as archive.org shall not save and make available historic versions of
a web page allowing users who explicitly want to see old versions to see them.
The page creator has that right legally to say nobody should redistribute archived versions of their page, which
is what that tag is for --- but as far as I'm concerned anyone setting Noarchive is being Evil / anti-internet by
making their site part of the disease that is information that can be lost -- in most cases trying to squeeze their idea of maximum Profit, which is
not what the world wide web is for, and not the kind of content I want my Google searches to bring me to, unless there's no other option.
How is google supposed to know that a page is browser-UA-sniffing and blocking anything that isn't google bot? Personally I'd love to see if google abandoned their custom UA in favor of faking a regular browser so this kind of BS stops.