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Recordings of the Sounds Heard In the Cuban US Embassy Attacks Released (apnews.com)
New submitter chrissfoot shares a report from The Associated Press: The Associated Press has obtained a recording of what some U.S. Embassy workers heard in Havana in a series of unnerving incidents later deemed to be deliberate attacks. The recording, released Thursday by the AP, is the first disseminated publicly of the many taken in Cuba of mysterious sounds that led investigators initially to suspect a sonic weapon. The recordings themselves are not believed to be dangerous to those who listen. Sound experts and physicians say they know of no sound that can cause physical damage when played for short durations at normal levels through standard equipment like a cellphone or computer. What device produced the original sound remains unknown. Americans affected in Havana reported the sounds hit them at extreme volumes. You can listen to the "Dangerous Sound" here via YouTube.
I'm not saying the answer is yes, but if the terrorist attacks keep happening, maybe it's time to ask the question.
>The recordings themselves are not believed to be dangerous
So we can rule out Kanye West...?
Not that I have any idea what it was, but I'd be more inclined to suspect some kind of one-off natural phenomenon more than I'd suspect a weapon, given there is not an iota of evidence to suggest that malicious intent must have been behind the harm it caused.
But hey.... assuming intelligent intent behind something that we don't yet fully understand is historically a very human thing to do.... why should we be any different now than our caveman ancestors?
File under 'M' for 'Manic ranting'
Sound experts and physicians say they know of no sound that can cause physical damage when played for short durations at normal levels through standard equipment like a cellphone or computer.
Obviously these people have never heard Trump speak. I actually envy them
They basically admit it's a simulation. There's no way the AP would be able to "obtain" nor disseminate it if it were really evidence in this ongoing spook dig.
Granted that's an annoying sound but I doubt it's very similar to what the people affected experienced.
The youtube sounds to see if they're legit?
I've got the order for 20 or so outdoor speakers pointed at my neighbors house waiting on amazon...
Both low frequency sound and high frequency sound can cause negative health effects... and any recordings of audible sounds were likely caused by some resonance at an audible frequency. Any audiophiles out there have an idea what frequency this could have been based on the resonant sound produced?
Seems this is quite an insidious way to mess with people, just set up some equipment and point it at someone's home or building and they are going to have a bunch of unfortunate health issues that will be disruptive to their lives and work.
I'm guessing we have the CIA or old KGB to thank for coming up with the techniques that have now gone mainstream apparently.
...to send the Marines into Cuba.
On some ocasion I spent a night in a hotel in a small town and all the night long there was a cicada or another critter loudly buzzing a nasty sound like this. In the following days I realized that I had developed tinitus, that I carry since then. I don't know if it was a coincidence. Probably not.
This is egg on their face. It means that they cannot guarantee diplomatic safety in their own capitol, and if it's their own people doing it behind their back it means they cannot control their own intelligence services. Those are the sort of things that make a dictator get cold sweats at 2AM. It's a major crack in the facade of their power.
Let's say that it turns out to be "The Russians" and we catch them in the act. The obvious solution for the Cubans is to let us take the foreign operatives back to the US. It would even be justifiable for the Cubans to arrest the diplomatic mission of the foreign power and turn them over to US. Diplomatic immunity my ass. Doing this to a foreign embassy is an act of war because it is extremely serious non-lethal violence against a diplomatic mission. All bets are off at that point.
I suppose a natural source could produce a noise like this. The problem is that something that is high-frequency AND has enough amplitude to do damage would be extremely directional. You would probably still hear something off-axis or reflected, but at a much lower amplitude. An omni-directional signal powerful enough to do damage to a human at a distance would also be shattering windows.
So you would have to assume that it's a natural phenomena that just happens to be emitting directly at embassy staff. The odds of this being natural start dropping off rather quickly.
I recall 58 being killed in an attack claimed by ISIS just days ago.
I played all 5 seconds of the YouTube link at very low volume and my dog jumped up from where he was lying down and began looking around the room with a "what the fuck was that" attitude.
FTFY... https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
It shouldn't have been reopened in the first place. Cuba continues to violate basic human rights on a massive scale. Political prisoners are still very common.
We shouldn't be giving them credibility. This was a big mistake by the previous administration.
The actual sound is very creepy, but its slightly under volume. You may need to adjust your speaker volume. At 3min the tones begin to oscillate a little causing a slightly dizziness. Be careful. https://youtu.be/cyMHZVT91Dw?t=3m5s
There is nothing wrong with your television set. Do not attempt to adjust the picture. We are controlling transmission. If we wish to make it louder, we will bring up the volume. If we wish to make it softer, we will tune it to a whisper. We will control the horizontal. We will control the vertical. We can roll the image, make it flutter. We can change the focus to a soft blur or sharpen it to crystal clarity. For the next hour, sit quietly and we will control all that you see and hear. We repeat: there is nothing wrong with your television set. You are about to participate in a great adventure. You are about to experience the awe and mystery which reaches from the inner mind to – The Outer Limits.
Would a sonic weapon be protected under the 2nd or 1st amendment?
Someone next door to the American embassy was playing the "Havana Moon" album too loudly.
hear the intensity of it, it basically feels like and has the effect of a drill on the body, tearing tissue apart, pressurizing it, expanding/contracting it, rupturing it, etc.
I've had similar used on me; I have brain and organ damage from it. This is the magic of directed energy. One thing is they report it as sonic waves but they don't know if it was sound or electromagnetic/laser/hologram/interferometry based. The United States has tech like this deployed in space now, that can nuke any individual, creating sounds in the persons environment, orbs, voices in the head, heating/chilling of the body, brain damage, dreams, brain scans, etc, and it uses femto second laser/hologram/interferometry, the energy is merely creating sound as molecules/particles are disrupted and messed with.
Guess what the weapon is being used on me now, and I have ties to NSA/CIA engineers/whistleblowers who back me up. 7 psychologists have confirmed I'm a victim too.
For all we know the United States did this to their own staffers, the United States definitely know if someone else did it but are concealing the identity and are refusing to tell the public precisely how this all happened.
https://www.trumpsweapon.com/
But now that you've listened to it, umm, what?
Acoustic mind virus.
The state department keeps calling this a "weapon", which doesn't make any sense. Listening devices and spying have a LONG history in embassies. The Russians were great at this in Moscow against the US, and the entire US embasy in Moscow had to be torn down and rebuilt because the Russians had infiltrated it. My guess is this thing was either transmitting information in some way and just completely miss-configured.
The sound itself sounds modulated in some way. It's not a regular repeating pattern, or random noise. It varies in time. That's odd in itself, and suggests it's transmitting information.
If they're still dead from suicide, then it's rather irrelevant if it's suicide. Unless suicides become immune to death or resurrect on a regular basis.
How are they recording a sound with "extreme volume" without clipping or anything? This is all very suspicious.
When someone exhorts others to violence by stoking the fires of fear and anger, NOT silencing them will only allow the riot to continue. It's why you arrested several Imams in the USA and why you block things like ISIS and other muslim fundamentalist propaganda sites.
I'm skeeeeeered of Muslims!! I'm skeeeeeered of Mexicans!!
The US and I believe even Russia experimented with sonic weapons for quite a while during the Cold War, nothing really came of it. All of the known systems are large, obvious & pretty ineffective. Sure you can kill/badly injure someone with sound, with a device the size of a Buick, at ranges of no more than 100' & sustained exposure. Or you could use a device the size of a large beer can launched from a mile away with a simple metal tube (mortar using either standard or chemical warheads). Which of the following three scenarios sounds more likely, a small and poor island nation developed a weapon two superpowers couldn't, some people (either government or independent) went out of their way to haul around a massive sonic device to attack an embassy, or some people are vastly overstating a minor incident for political gain.
Sorry, but I couldn't hear a thing despite turning my speakers up.
See, we all think those commies are soo much smarter than we are, they have devised a sonic "weapon" that even our best experts can't explain.
Here, let me try.
This is the sound of jury-rigging. If you've got not parts, and no money, and no normal source for repairs, you just put stuff together as best you can. This particular noise is the sound of a fan scraping a trash-can lid that washed up on shore 20 years ago. /sarc
"We receive as friendly that which agrees with, we resist with dislike that which opposes us" - Faraday
https://www.scamstuff.com/products/sonic-nausea
From Dumb and Dumber? The most annoying sound ever?
During the day it records everything it hears. At night it retransmits everything but at an ultrasonic pitch. Either the bug has been damaged (tropical moisture) or two similar devices are interfering with each other.
Don't listen to it! Seven days later you will die!
There could never be any plausible malicious intent by people in Cuba against U.S. Embassy personnel. There's just no precedent and no motive.
The Cuban people were NOT indoctrinated for years to view U.S. Government entities as their enemy. There is NO possibility that rogue elements within Cuban society might be doing this 'For Fidel' out of ideological zeal.
Nope. None of that should even be considered.
I'm pretty sure they US public has been more thoroughly indoctrinated to view Cuba as the spawn of Satan by the US media than the Cuban government could ever hope to indoctrinate the Cuban people to view the US as a mere 'enemy'. I attribute this largely to the fact that the average Cuban is better educated and generally better informed than the average American.
I really just wish that Americans would figure out how to associate government actions with the government, and not condemn the country or people in it for the actions of their government. Your statement that the American public views Cuba as evil is surprising to me, because I don't think that at all. That may happen for some countries, like North Korea where things are a bit more extreme. But Cuba? I don't see it.
And I sure as hell hope that people in the rest of the world don't judge all Americans based on what our government does and says.
My beliefs do not require that you agree with them.
I've known more than a few intelligent Cuban-Americans (except for Otto Reich, whom I don't know), so allow those still back on the island a little leeway please. If they used concentrated bursts of directed microwave transmissions (something the old Soviets were researching back in the 1960s) along with those sounds, people might tend to believe the sounds were the cause and not look for any microwave sources.
The only plausible (sort of) physical theory so far was that it were micro-waves. That is, something that can penetrate the building and produce sensations of sound in people it is aimed at, but stay inaudible to the rest of the World.
Now that it IS sound (otherwise how could it be recorded?) the whole thing just doesn't make sense when you consider the buidling and its location. Look it up on Google maps - where would you put the emitter capable of penetrating the buidling with sound while being discreet? Wherever you try, it would be very loud on the outside which as we're told is not the case.
attacking Americans in their sleep. It's so hilariously bad you couldn't even fit it in a 50's B-movie.
without the sound of the motor.
Just the high pitch of the bit cutting into metal.
The thing that surprised me most about this whole affair was that no-one seems to have modified a gunfire location system to see where these sounds originated.
I understand that ensuring the safety of your diplomatic staff is of primary concern but, given the US's traditional response to threats, I'd have expected a 'squad' of marines or a pair of men in dark glasses knocking on the door of room 623 in the overlooking office block* within a week of 'hearing' the sounds.
*An example. Not the actual location of the origin of the sounds, as far as I know...
You put a dozen focused emitters in various locations and point them at your target, syncing them up for constructive interference.
The cuban sonic weapon crisis and the US government's crusade against Kaspersky Lab of Russia are closely related.
I don’t understand the mystery here. Seems like a simple unltrasound attach to me. They have been beaming sound on not people’s heads for years.
Has anyone filed a dmca takedown notice yet ?
...is that you? I once saw you kill three men in a bar with a pencil, a fucking pencil! Who the fuck can do that?
It's called Tinnitus...
I'm more inclined to believe that it's another state-actor or else a very, very large criminal enterprise, something on the international scale.
Of course it is a state actor. Also it seems very clear that it is probably a false flag op trying to create friction between Cuba and the US. Lets think about this: In recent years there are has been a considerable thawing of relations between the US and Cuba. Previously, it was a Soviet friendly country right off the coast of the US. If Cuba suddenly becomes A BFF with the US, what do you think happens to relations with Russia?
Moreover, Putin has signed off on outlandish 'James Bond' operations before. (Poisoning a journalist with radioactive material, conducing false flag terrorist bombings, etc.). Using exotic ultrasonic weapons to deafen embassy personnel sound like something right out of his playbook.
Police detectives look for motives when working on a case. I'd say Putin has a pretty good motive to keep US - Cuba relations on ice.
HA! I just wasted some of your bandwidth with a frivolous sig!
There's literally no mechanism by which sound waves could do the damage they claim has occurred without absolutely massive sound generating equipment being used pretty much right on top of the embassy.
My guess is that either some other environmental factor is to blame, or even more likely that the panic over this supposed phenomenon is causing people to go to the doctor and actually get a hearing test, only to discover that like most people, they suffer from some age-related hearing loss they didn't know they had, only reinforcing their paranoid suspicions.
I'm just surprised the doctors are stupid enough to go along with this farce.
The first reports of these attacks were in Russia, against US dignitaries. That was like two months ago so why has the media forgotten about that? Oh, that's right, that wouldn't make sense in the media created Trump is in bed with Putin stories! (Not that he is or isn't)
Life is in a state of dynamic equilibrium, it both blows and sucks
These sounds are "ringers" for ultrasonic jewelry cleaners. What we hear may be the audible component of a powerful wave (in person, not via a speaker) whose harmonics may be of great harm to resonant microstructures in the human anatomy: for the inner ear, for fine cerebral capillaries, anything the operator may wish to destroy. I nearly flipped when I heard the sound from my ultrasonic cleaner-- what lurks in the higher harmonics. See concept of the Harmonic Gun in Alfred Bester's The Demolished Man.
It sounds like a cicada to me.
"Sound experts and physicians say they know of no sound that can cause physical damage", but there is indeed one that the japanese use on a regular basis against my Sea Shepherd comrades! It's called the LRAD. The Long Range Acoustic Device's purpose is to make sound - lots of sound. It produces very loud sound that is audible over relatively long distances. But it's not limited to producing painful noise for use as a weapon which causes disorientation. It can also amplify voices or recordings to a level that is loud and clear but not painful or debilitating. It's usually used for "non-lethal, non-kinetic crowd control". https://www.youtube.com/watch?...