Leave It To the Heat to Dull Autumn's Glory (wsj.com)
It's autumn. Somebody tell the trees. From a report: Ordinarily, two signals alert deciduous trees that it's time to relinquish the green hues of summer in favor of autumn's yellows, oranges and reds. First, the days begin to grow shorter. Second, the temperature begins to drop. But this year, unseasonably warm weather across most of the U.S. has tricked trees into delaying the onset of fall's color extravaganza. Temperatures in the eastern half of the country have been as much as 15 degrees above normal since mid-September, and the warmth is expected to persist through the end of October. The unfortunate result for leaf peepers is a lackluster fall. Two kinds of pigments produce the season's liveliest foliage. Carotenoid, responsible for yellows and oranges, is always present in leaves but is usually masked by chlorophyll. The initial trigger for its appearance is shorter days. Anthocyanin, responsible for reds and deep purples, is different. Not all deciduous trees have this pigment, and those that do manufacture it from scratch in the fall. The primary trigger for its appearance is lower temperatures. Without that cooling cue, the colors of maple and other species that generally ignite New England with brilliant reds this time of year are likely to fizzle.
Is that 15 degrees Delisle, Leiden or Rankine?
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But it is science-related.
Colorado mountains this year actually had a somewhat early year for fall color, which was then sadly messed with near peak by weeks of cold rain/snow - it left a lot of the colors pretty muted as well (lots of moisture seems to bring out a lot of mold that causes black spots on the leaves).
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How dare you question the cult?
Seems to me that explaining the world around us is of interest to nerds.
Not all "news for nerds" has to be "here's the latest update about Ruby on Rails implementation on Ubuntu run on a Raspberry Pi to mine bitcoin."
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(1) We have had an unseasonably warm fall.
(2) Cooling temperatures trigger the production of red and purple pigments in leaves.
(3) We expect to see less red foliage this year.
Explain to me which of these statements is *political*.
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If you live on low quality flood prone land, MOVE.
And when ~2 Billion people have to do just that, what do you think's going to happen to those of you "smart" enough to live in the hills?
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Completely political as "unseasonably" [cold|warm|rainy|snowy] is not new. It's neither a sign that climate change is suddenly a bigger issue, nor is it a sign that climate change isn't an issue. It neither says that climate change is notably man-made, nor that climate change is completely natural. It is a story meant specifically to ignite ignorantly passionate arguments so that people will donate money to those that champion their side of it.
I'll have to agree with whoever it is who said that this isn't actually political.
It was pointing out the connection between the muted tree colors and the unseasonably warm weather in New England. Nowhere was climate change or greenhouse warming mentioned. if you think any discussion about warm weather is a political statement about climate change, that is something about you brought to the discussion, not inherent in the original post.
I notice that the original article was Wall Street Journal, which hasn't been a big " propagandize climate change religion" source-- if anything, they are the opposite, tending to downplay climate change.
Or, to misquote Freud, "sometimes a leaf is just a leaf."
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(1) We have had an unseasonably warm fall.
We also had an unseasonably mild & dry Summer here in the Midwest, and the leaves had started falling in late August here. I was excited because I was hoping I could have my leaves taken care of by mid-October. Then things warmed up and it started raining, then suddenly the leaves stopped dropping again.
Taking guns away from the 99% gives the 1% 100% of the power.
Instead of moving it to within a few weeks of Winter Solstice they should have moved it the other way. Or gotten rid of it all together. Then the Sun would come up later and it wouldn't be so warm.
The one that contains the word, "warm". Everyone knows that every mention of warmer than usual weather is an affront to the orange god-king.
You are welcome on my lawn.
New England had a very dry year overall. The Norway maples and hickories in my yard dropped most of their leaves in August, and what's left are brown and dry -- first time in twenty-five years living here that's happened. Twenty yards downhill trees with a better water supply are still green unseasonably late, but are starting to fade to yellow.
Normally by this time of year there would be brilliant red foliage everywhere.
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I have to believe it's both. Fruit trees (e.g. apples) depend on a certain number of cold days before they are ready to break dormancy. Maple trees start pumping sap in the Spring when the temperature is right (warm days and cold nights).
Something something irrefutable proof! No not enough data! But but questionably funded study! I want to believe! I will stand firm in the face of all facts!
I lied, it's more like this:
A: My position is clearly the correct one, and all who do not hold it are imbeciles.
B: My position is clearly the correct one, and all who do not hold it are imbeciles.
At least they can agree on something.
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With millions of now-homeless people squatting right outside said property? Doubt it.
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We've had something similar in Pennsylvania. While a number of trees are still green, others just gave up. Their leaves turned brown and many are still attached to the tree. Very atypical for us.
I don't know, but it works for me.
I grew up and lived in the North East and I have to say this, fall is the most overrated season ever which then allows us to be greeted by the worst season ever Winter.
Let's list why fall stinks:
1. It's the end of summer. Thank goodness the traditionally fall months are hot, but instead of a gradual weather change, it's now hot hot hot and then freezing cold. I'll take having a few extra months of hot weather before the frigid cold and ice sets in.
2. High fall, ie the time when the leaves are the most colorful, only lasts at best 2 weeks. You have beautiful lush green forests, then red, brown orange, colorful forests, and then barren brown. It will remain barren and brown until mid-April/ early May. LAME!
3. Seeing Christmas decorations, ads, and every worst aspect of the holiday season hit three months before the actual event. I wish someone would write a law that says Christmas can't be advertised or appear at all until the end of Thanksgiving.
4. And the realization that winter is upon us. Every time I hear someone say they look forward to snow fall, I want to punch them in the face. Snow means freezing cold as I walk to the bus stop, snow means slushy $hit everywhere I walk, snow means spending time outside moving the crap around, snow means rusting vehicles, stale indoor air, obnoxiously heavy clothing, expensive heating oil bills, and maybe if i'm lucky there will be enough of the crap to force a work from home day. Maybe if winter disappeared immediately after New Years and spring began I would be happier, but no. You have to power through the crap for at least three more months.
The only redeeming thing about winter are the sports. Thankfully, I've since relocated to a locale where the weather is hot and sunny 24/7 and it's possible for me to drive 2-3 hours to ski resorts packed with snow. Get my fix, and then drive back to a tropical paradise.
Preach! Everyone knows GW is nothing more than Big Rake attempting to muscle in on Big Snow Shovel marketshare! #MAGA
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Not unless you view tech as an opportunity to propagandize climate change religion.
Or you've heard of this thing called "science".
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I'm from Ohio, and I'm about 50 years old.
When I was a kid I used to go skiing. My parents would take me. We have a few local ski resorts, dinky little places. Boston Mills and Brandywine. Nothing much really. Basically a few ski lifts and a couple of hills not far from where the Cleveland Cavaliers used to play - the old Richfield Colosseum off route 303.
And the skiing wasn't bad. Nobody would mistake it for Veil Colorado, but it wasn't bad.
Now I'm older and you know what? It doesn't really snow in Ohio much anymore. I have two kids now. I really wanted to teach them how to ski and...I can't. We never get enough snow. Each resort these days will make artificial snow enough to keep one or two hills open, but it's basically an ice flow. You're not skiing, you're skating.
When I was a kid you'd see an occasional flurry in October. I once went trick-or-treating in the snow. Show would pick up through November and by Christmas we would have a few feet of snow that would last through February.
Now? It's too sporadic to build up a base to ski on. It'll snow, but then go up to 55 or 60 degrees and it all melts, then drop down to the mid 30s and hang for a week. Then drop to zero and snow. Then back up into the 50's. We never get anything worth skiing on. If we get a big snow it'll last for maybe a week or so. Enough to maybe go sledding on, but by the next week it's slush.
I don't give a crap about politics.
What I do know is that I used to have snow here, and now I don't.
You misspelled "imbecile".
It's not an acronym.
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Nothing in the summary even hints at global warming. So what, exactly, are you so upset about?
I've been hoping for longer golf seasons with climate change but it has not made much difference yet.
> Temperatures in the eastern half of the country have been as much as 15 degrees above normal
Holy FS! I thought it was just me. We needed heat and aircon on the same day earlier this month.
Oh and if you're wondering?
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half the trees in [downtown] dallas never even dropped their leaves from last year. we had at most 3 or 4 days where you had to wear a jacket.
Well, there's digital photography involved, climate science, etc. I live in Maine. The colors are spectacular (Yellows, Oranges and Reds), they're just a couple of weeks late. The shorter days get them going, but what really gets the trees going is a frost which is something much of the country doesn't get until after the leaves drop.
I actually agree they should move if they are rescued. No rebuilding.
The cesspool just got a check and balance.
It's hilarious when lefties use the snowflake label.
The trees know what's up. They just aren't set to our timetables. The trees do what the trees want, Holmes, just like the rest of us.
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(1) We have had an unseasonably warm fall.
(2) Cooling temperatures trigger the production of red and purple pigments in leaves.
(3) We expect to see less red foliage this year.
Explain to me which of these statements is *political*.
It has been that way for the last 30 years and some people refuse to see, a let's call it a 'trend'.
Those people see it as 'political', at least until the state has to pay for their flooded houses and save them from their roof. And even then it's just a 'fluke' that there are 5 100-year-floods 3 years in a row. You know, like in the casino, when Red comes 10 times in a row,
The one where it's humans and not trees making the statements, and humans, not trees saying that means something's wrong. The trees don't care that you think the "seasons'" unseasonable because this season is not like the one that used to resemble the ones previous.
So what observation can a human make that would *not* be political under those criteria?
Could you walk out the door on a February morning and say, "Geez, it's cold out," without being political? After all the atmosphere doesn't care what temperature you expect it to be.
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According to your deity Al Gore it was supposed to have already happened. Irreversibly. Irrefutably. I moved to Colorado expecting I'd have ocean front property now based on his Inconvenient Propaganda. Yet here I am high and dry.
It's called La Niña. It's happened before, and it will happen again. Nothing new here, just somebody who doesn't know any better panicking and setting other people off. #fakenews
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Here in south central New Hampshire fall started early with a mild freeze September 3. Some trees started turning, but the warm fall has kept the yellows and oranges in the trees for over a month.
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What's the problem? He's a climate denying imbecile.
Who thinks that acronyms somehow validate willfully being an imbecile.
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Apparently, someone has a problem with calling out people who see dog whistling everywhere as paranoid loons who see dog whistling everywhere.
All of the time. In everything. Everywhere.
So let me rephrase that...
Explain to me which of these statements is *political*.
You obviously lack the proper training.
You know... the kind that would help you understand that talking about "cutting taxes" is the same thing as going around shouting "Ni99er, ni99er, ni99er."
Which you'd know if you had proper training.
Just as you'd know that global warming is a Chinese conspiracy, that UN is coming for your guns, that Obama is a secret Muslim - who is also a secret demon.
And many other wonderful things you'd "pick up" from various sources with hidden messages.
You'd see ALL OF THE hidden messages and secret information. Everywhere. All of the time.
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You answered Hamlet's question.
Did you misspell 'Arrhenius', or were you unaware that the theory of AGW predates An Inconvenient Truth by 11 decades?
Those who advocate genocide deserve every protection afforded by law, and none afforded by common human decency.
I remember when I was a kid, and the glacier near my house lost twenty cubic miles of ice in ten years. The number of frost-free days in Fairbanks has doubled since 1950. Glacial ice loss has been most noticeable from the lower alpine and tidewater glaciers, which would be the most accessible and visible ones. I believe we're up to about fifty cubic kilometers per year for the state overall.
You can walk it back to people who live in places you care about, but there are any number of statistics to show that the Arctic at least is melting like gangbusters.
Those who advocate genocide deserve every protection afforded by law, and none afforded by common human decency.
Rebuilding is fine as long as they build on stilts or make it a floating house this time.
You misspelt misspelt.
You're actually making it more difficult for the center leaning right to have civil discourse.
I'd actually like to hear more from the center-leaning right. The far-right is completely drowning out the discourse (and for that matter, I'd be interested in hearing more from the center-leaning left.)
And you're not alone, nearly all the people are polarized and the TrueLeft and True Right just can't believe what the center leaning on either side are talking about, that the opposition may have certain points worth discussing or that their argument is more nuanced than it is made out to be.
Agree! Most of what passes for political discourse these days seems to be false dichotomy: if you're not far left, you must be fascist right / If you're not far right, you must be Stalinist left.
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If you moved to Colorado for the ocean view, you really are dumber than a box of rocks: Even the most extreme models predicted a sea level rise that would produce that particular real estate in Colorado. But you could go trolling for sandfish and make millions of tRump dollars selling them to your fellow bumpkins.
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Even the most extreme models predicted a sea level rise that would produce that particular real estate in Colorado.
The English language is a difficult one. Thank you for agreeing with me in your post, even though it makes you look as dumb as a box of rocks.
Actually, both are correct.
It's that British vs. American thing.
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Even the most extreme models did not predict a sea level rise that would have produce that particular real estate in Colorado.
Obviously, I should have proofread what I wrote. See the above correction.
Seriously, did you really expect us to believe a sea level rise on the order of 7000 feet?
I suspect you merely neglected to include the /sarcasm tag in your original post.
I apologize for any misunderstandings my failure to adequately proofread my own posts. I hope this exchange offered some entertainment value for the readers of /.
PlaynBass
Yes, I did forget the tags in my post. Most people were able to decipher it on their own, but I see from your username you are a bass player. I should have dumbed it down some.
All my days are fun, enjoy yours as well!
Ha, ha! I did fully understand the /sarcasm... but I'm a stickler for the fun-da-mentals!
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Keep on funning on!
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