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YouTube Suspends Account of Popular Chinese Dissident (freebeacon.com)

schwit1 brings news about an exiled Chinese billionaire with 500,000 followers on YouTube. The Washington Free Beacon reports:YouTube has suspended the video account of popular Chinese dissident Guo Wengui amid a mounting pressure from the Beijing government to silence one of its critics. According to a person familiar with the action, YouTube issued what the company calls a 'strike' against Guo, who since the beginning of the year has created an online sensation by posting lengthy videos in which he reveals details of corruption by senior Chinese officials. The suspension involves a 90-day block on any new live-stream postings of videos and was the result of a complaint made against a recent Guo video for alleged harassment. The identity of the person or institution who issued the complaint could not be learned... Other videos by Guo posted prior to the suspension remain accessible.
The suspension coincides with this week's once-every-five-years congress of the Chinese Communist party to reveal which top officials will serve President Xi Jinping, according to Financial Times, adding that "China's choreographed politics is not designed for public participation or questioning."

154 comments

  1. Well... by BlueStrat · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ...I, for one, welcome our Chinese internet overlords.

    Strat

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    1. Re:Well... by Stephen+Battleware · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I seriously might to have to re-evalutate how much YouTube watching I do.

      This is the problem with (de facto) monopolies, the few alternatives were long left out to dry and don't have the content.

      I hope Slashdot tracks the developments. Perhaps YouTube will reverse this darksided decision.

    2. Re:Well... by BlueStrat · · Score: 1

      Perhaps YouTube will reverse this darksided decision.

      It all depends on who is appointed/gains power in China and therefor how much continued or even ramped up pressure Google receives from Chinese leadership. It's possible Google might reverse their decision after the politically-sensitive Chinese appointments are concluded, but I would not lay great odds on that occurring. Particularly if those officials revealed as corrupt in those videos gain/retain power. Google has discarded taking either the high ground or the low ground and is taking the "amoral ground" and hedging their bets because they can.

      Strat

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    3. Re:Well... by BlueStrat · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The dudeâ(TM)s a billionaire. Heâ(TM)s obviously not exactly suffering due to the persecution from the repressive Chinese government - sounds like heâ(TM)s more of a gadfly than a dissident.

      So if you're not poor and/or personally oppressed (maybe you were lucky enough/smart enough to escape?), then you have no right to oppose corruption/oppression occurring in your own birth-country?

      Can you break down the qualifiers for these various social classes and their respective rights/responsibilities/entitlements, please? We need a handy guide so we don't overstep our class privilege and speak out of turn, and thus possibly disrespect our class betters.

      TIA

      Strat

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    4. Re: Well... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

      First they came for the gamer gaters and I said nothing because muh sexual harassment you can see because I forgot to log into my shill account.

      Then they demonetized the right and I said nothing because Drumpf is surely finished now!!!!!!!!!!

      Next they came for Chinese dissidents and I said nothing because where will we get our cheap products from if we don't bend over for China?

      Finally they came for me and no one said anything because the only protected victim class left are transspecies centaurs with cutie mark tattoos and surgically attached literal horse cocks.

    5. Re:Well... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      strange. you arent asking yourself 'why am I wasting time watching videos at all'?

    6. Re: Well... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I wonder what American dollar slaves have to say, those slaves who lost their jobs to H1B scam by obama regime.

    7. Re: Well... by newcastlejon · · Score: 1

      Finally they came for me and no one said anything because the only protected victim class left are transspecies centaurs with cutie mark tattoos and surgically attached literal horse cocks.

      Phew!

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    8. Re: Well... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well shilled. Are you a student of American English, or an American being paid to shill?

    9. Re:Well... by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 1

      The dude’s a billionaire. He’s obviously not exactly suffering

      Restrictions on free speech harm listeners as well as speakers.

    10. Re: Well... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Said the anonymous fuckface while commenting on Slashdot...

    11. Re:Well... by mentholsmooth · · Score: 2

      And this is typically where freedom dies and the authoritarian wins, my friend. If you aren't going to raise your voice for someone because you don't agree with his lifestyle, nobody is going to be left when they come to silence you.

    12. Re:Well... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      You are part of the problem. By the time your kind gets through with things, there won't be anyone left to defend your rights.

    13. Re: Well... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Said the anonymous fuckface while commenting on Slashdot..

    14. Re:Well... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Someone once expressed shock that I, someone in their 30's, would argue in favor of lowering the drinking age to 18 on the basis that "you can already drink, why do you care?".

    15. Re:Well... by KingBenny · · Score: 1

      you can google "flixxo" before they ban it from the first page searches xD i been in the telegram chat with those guys and really ... but steemit was promising too when i heard the salespitch but this doesnt seem to have a wreck people by buying option to it (yet) the demo doesnt show much other than a seriously superb artsy video so far the initial token sale is already done i think, the tokens will be on exchange too (so i have been told by the dudes) just like other crypto ... it's the new white , o wait no , its the new black, o wait no ... which one was baed ? https://flixxo.com/demo/#/logi... go to the main website for a link to the telegram chatroom they're pretty swift on the response but do ask you to rtfm first ... it looks like a potential thing that would be bought out in a bidding war between larry the lounge lizard and marky mark ... they're not big K the Dot a.k.a. Com so i dont know how resilient they would be if the billion starts flying round their heads if they really took off i have less hope for steemit , i think that will be fringe i dont really understand why google would comply with beijing since they already have no clout there ? is this like "if we do they'll let us in? " can i LOL here, Larry, have you checked any of the chinese video services ? ALL videos uploaded are subject to revision first i'm not the one to judge here okay, everyone in china i ever talked to hasnt been tortured ... the previous generations is something else i'm not gonna tell anyone how to run a place with 1.3 billion people, i think actually that's beyond the omega of current government, from all i hear the complaints are about small government mostly, maybe cos big government is too far away ... it has ad and dis -vantages (errh ?) i like to get mah nooze from people who know i'm sure there's plenty of shyte going on but i think shyte is worse in places that say they're above it ... china does not deny censorship europe and the states do, right? the UK is a master of that but they dont really deny it either lol plato and the cave, man ... best story ever, beats the bible and quran at every turn

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    16. Re:Well... by AbRASiON · · Score: 1

      Resident of Melbourne, Sydney, Vancouver or Toronto are you? :(
      Sigh for young people trying to afford a fucking home.

  2. For those who may analyze, it's all about the $$! by bogaboga · · Score: 1

    Enough said!

  3. People's Monopoly or YouTube by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    YouTube is a monopoly because The People want a monopoly. YouTube is not to blame. You The People chose this situation. You The People are pure evil.

    You are the problem.

    YOU ARE THE PROBLEM.

    YOU. ARE. THE. PROBLEM.

    1. Re:People's Monopoly or YouTube by Stephen+Battleware · · Score: 1

      Is there hope for us? Or will we just have to accept this marxist communist (de facto) government's dictate? P.S. It's we the people .. you're evil too ;)

    2. Re:People's Monopoly or YouTube by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well said. Time to stop using Alphabet / Google entirely.

    3. Re:People's Monopoly or YouTube by sysrammer · · Score: 1

      "To summarize the summary of the summary: people are a problem." Douglas Adams

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  4. I'm not sure you can call him a "dissident" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    he's a billionaire (or close to it), with questionable sources of his money, currently living in a Manhattan penthouse. I'd characterise him as someone with an ongoing dispute with the current government of China, who used to NOT have any dispute with them (hence his having a lot of money with hard to explain origins). I would not categorise him together with the people under house arrest, or dying because they were not allowed to consult doctors, or otherwise "disappeared".

    1. Re: I'm not sure you can call him a "dissident" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I, too, would not equate him with Obamacare victims.

    2. Re:I'm not sure you can call him a "dissident" by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 4, Insightful

      His videos make specific allegations against specific people. Why don't you refute the allegations instead of attacking him personally?

      That he may have been corrupt himself makes his allegations more credible, not less, since it means he knows how the system works.

  5. GOOGLE == EVIL by Tulsa_Time · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You knew it was only a matter of time.

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    1. Re:GOOGLE == EVIL by bobstreo · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Didn't take long from Do No Evil to Anything for a Buck. I blame the MBA mentality that is in charge now.

    2. Re:GOOGLE == EVIL by Dutch+Gun · · Score: 5, Insightful

      After reading the article, it's not just Google, but Facebook that's shutting him down as well. He claims he was never even contacted about this. Christ, how much influence over these tech giants does the Chinese government have? Obviously, this sort of subservience is the price you pay for access to the Chinese market.

      Where the hell are the social liberals running these companies when they blindly obey orders from the Chinese government? Fucking hypocrites, all of them.

      Using a Chinese security official who currently heads the international police organization Interpol, China succeeded in issuing an Interpol "red notice," or an international arrest warrant for alleged corruption.

      Ah, wonderful. The head of Interpol is a Chinese security officer? I didn't know that. I sort of wish I hadn't learned that. What the hell...

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    3. Re:GOOGLE == EVIL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Didn't take long from Do No Evil to Anything for a Buck. I blame the MBA mentality that is in charge now.

      In charge right now?!?!?

      Google's a fucking ad agency. "Don't be evil" was merely a fucking ad campaign.

      Apparently it worked.

      Between Google, Verizon, and Exxon, guess which one has had a private jumbo jet for its executives?

      Yeah, Google. Probably since before they concocted the "Don't be evil" ad campaign.

    4. Re:GOOGLE == EVIL by leonbev · · Score: 1, Insightful

      I would be nice if the SJW's that were so eager to get James Damore fired for that memo he wrote a few months ago would apply similar pressure against Google for this offense against free speech.

      I doubt it's going to happen, though.

    5. Re:GOOGLE == EVIL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      All these "liberal" journalists deserve their fair share of blame. They caused the latest craze on social media to censor anyone anywhere because someone got offended. They wanted swift censorship. They got it. They made censorship and bans the norm.

      Of course these naive imbeciles thought it would only affect people they disagreed with. Oops.

    6. Re: GOOGLE == EVIL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Fuck Google! Don't be Evil, my ass!

    7. Re:GOOGLE == EVIL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      "Where the hell are the social liberals running these companies when they blindly obey orders from the Chinese government?"

      Oh, social liberals outside are pissed too about shit like this. Hell, real conservatives are too. But the lack of a center party means most feel they have to pick and choose a side. One of the reasons for the uprising of nativists and populists in recent US politics is because, when push comes to shove, the elite and "globalists" act like old school business conservatives too, and they've abandoned blue collar areas while propping up foreign manufacturing bases (something white collar conservatives used to do for decades before). Why? Profit here while having foreign market influence. I point this out because there is no incentive for Google or Facebook to be liberal (as in the real sense, not the political sense) about freedoms; they only pick that when it suits them. So called "business ethics" and investor/stockholder interest will always override personal freedoms.

      Really, when you ever seen Google or Facebook or Twitter put up clear, concise reasonings of their takedown and blocking practices? Google used to, but hasn't for years. There is no transparency in their review, no one in the company is held accountable for mistakes, there is no appeal process most of the time, and many times, people learn the system to abuse it against others, as as has been well-documented over the years

      You come to realize that when business applies, when profits are to be squeezed, there is no real political or party fabric--it's all about the green. Let's be clear about this--it's not just the Chinese government, it's any large business arrangement. For example, espn via go.com back then arranged for their comment system to be tied with Facebook years back, when a Facebook investor/owner got placed on Disney or Go's board. If you've ever frequented their comments, there is rampant blocking, taking down of postings and entire threads. If they can do it domesticly, and had for years, why is anyone really surprised these companies kotowed to an authoritarian oligarch foreign government with 1,400x the population and with the second largest world economy with growth potential several hundred fold greater than the US's?

      Everyone should have known Google was shit when they no longer updated software for valid hardware and known secuirty holes. They should have known Facebook was crap for, well, everything Facebook does, most especially with the Real Name bs Facebook uses capriciously like selective prosecution to ruin people--people have been beaten and assassinated for this practice, and yet Facebook pretends they are all about truth, but they won;'t put the truth out and be transparent for what accounts are taken down. This is only news because we hope these assholes will someday change, but when they run the devices and the tie-ins to the infrastructure, there is little hope of that because everything now is a soft walled garden (one of the reasons I've against Softbank/SPrint merging with TMobile but that's another entire story).

    8. Re:GOOGLE == EVIL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ah, wonderful. The head of Interpol is a Chinese security officer? I didn't know that. I sort of wish I hadn't learned that. What the hell...

      Do not question ze multiculturalism komrade. /s...kinda

      Odd how a cheezy German accent and soviet stereotyping fits parody of current European leadership selling out their charges to anybody that asks.

    9. Re:GOOGLE == EVIL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      lol he hasn't been suppressed, he can still say all he wants. he just can't do it on a private platform. nothing to see here. google has no obligation legally to provide him, or anyone, a platform to speak.

    10. Re:GOOGLE == EVIL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Amazing how when there's actual injustice in the world you don't seem to care.

    11. Re:GOOGLE == EVIL by 0123456 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      "Where the hell are the social liberals running these companies when they blindly obey orders from the Chinese government?"

      'Social liberals' love the Chinese government, because they all dream of being dictators. Look at Turdeau, for example, talking about how he admires Chinese dictatorship.

    12. Re:GOOGLE == EVIL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We're busy telling people we told them so. They're starting to get it, but seems too late when already stripped of power and wealth.

    13. Re:GOOGLE == EVIL by careysub · · Score: 4, Funny

      There was a transcription error. The actual motto was "Do Know Evil".

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    14. Re:GOOGLE == EVIL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      They're extreme leftists. The ends justify the means. They probably fully believe that this small evil is worth all the good they could do, if they could only get the access they need to the market. "His sacrifice will be worth it."

    15. Re:GOOGLE == EVIL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      All these "liberal" journalists deserve their fair share of blame. They caused the latest craze on social media to censor anyone anywhere because someone got offended. They wanted swift censorship. They got it. They made censorship and bans the norm.

      Of course these naive imbeciles thought it would only affect people they disagreed with. Oops.

      What makes you think they even disagree with the Chinese government?

    16. Re:GOOGLE == EVIL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They might obey a court order or their own ToS. Businesses are always depended of their stakeholders, the governments being one of them. The Chinese government is yet to learn that the governments are also dependent of their stakeholders though.

    17. Re:GOOGLE == EVIL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There was a transcription error. The actual motto was "Do Know Evil".

      "Don't just be evil, BE evil!"

      As in, don't be describable as 'evil,' but instead strive to be the very living embodiment of evil. So far, they're falling a little short of that goal, but they're closing in on it.

    18. Re:GOOGLE == EVIL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, when all your shit is built in China, and when China develops to the point where they are now the largest market... yeah, they're influential.

      Hope you don't miss being, as English-speakers, the centers of the technological universe. If I were you, I'd start learning Mandarin.

    19. Re:GOOGLE == EVIL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Christ, how much influence over these tech giants does the Chinese government have?

      Umm, as much as they can afford? Have you noticed the trade deficit with China over the last couple decades. One (nation, under God as it were) can't build up that much monetary debt without some realistic expectation that such debt would turn into a proportionate amount of influence. Proportionate to the amount of debt/trade imbalance. The piper gets paid.

    20. Re: GOOGLE == EVIL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Social Justice HYPOCRITE

    21. Re:GOOGLE == EVIL by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 1

      I blame the MBA.

      What does basketball have to do with it?

    22. Re:GOOGLE == EVIL by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      You knew it was only a matter of time.

      For obeying the law in the country in which they do business? Yeah I'm sure simply cutting off a billion people from the internet and their services forcing them to go back to truly government owned services would be far better for humanity.

    23. Re:GOOGLE == EVIL by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      Christ, how much influence over these tech giants does the Chinese government have?

      Was this a serious question? Because within the great firewall the answer is 100% You want access to the market you play by the rules.

      Actually the same is said for most countries. The only difference in the USA is that the government is at least open to lobbying and will often make decisions favourable to the companies in question. I take it you don't recall the panic in the industry about the no encryption laws earlier this year? The USA government has the same kind of power over these tech giants, they just make different decisions.

    24. Re:GOOGLE == EVIL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Google services and youtube are blocked by the 'Great Firewall' but are easily reached with any number of VPN services.

      This is nothing more than Google currying favor to get it's foot into China so it can monetize all those poor ass nongers living off ¥1000-3000 a month.

    25. Re:GOOGLE == EVIL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Obligatory Little Gamers link.

    26. Re:GOOGLE == EVIL by Megol · · Score: 1

      The accusations may be true. If they are later shown to be will you then rant about how Google and Facebook let people with money harass people while normal people are shut down? Or would you even acknowledge that you were wrong?

    27. Re:GOOGLE == EVIL by blindseer · · Score: 1

      What you describe sounds a lot like the "deplatforming" tactic that's been employed by so many. A university will deny a student group to invite a speaker to campus. The university defends itself with the claim that it's not denying the person an ability to speak, only denying the platform on their campus.

      Let me ask you something, how many times does a person have to be denied a platform before it becomes censorship? At what point is the denial of a platform a denial of the right to speak freely? You can give this all the spin you want, it's still censorship and is a threat to people's freedom to speak freely.

      YouTube has been charged with changing the terms of their services arbitrarily for a long time now. If YouTube wants to remain in business then people need to be able to know the terms of service beforehand and YouTube needs to hold up their end of the deal. This "deplatforming" nonsense is just bad business.

      Is Google legally required to provide a platform to speak? Depending on the contract signed they may in fact be obligated to carry this content.

      Again, at a minimum this behavior by Google is getting them some bad press. I can understand their desire to keep content on the publicly accessible portions limited to something that might get a PG or PG-13 rating in a movie theater, that's good business. What bothers me is the obvious political slant of their decisions to deny certain people access to this platform and their denial of any censorship. They can keep the slant all they like, but they need to be open about it so that their customers, viewers and content creators, know what kind of product that they are getting.

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    28. Re:GOOGLE == EVIL by Dutch+Gun · · Score: 1

      You're aware that Guo Wengui lives in New York, not China, right?

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    29. Re:GOOGLE == EVIL by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      And that is relevant to a Chinese person living in China and having their experience mediated by the Chinese government behind the Chinese great firewall, why?

    30. Re:GOOGLE == EVIL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Really, when you ever seen Google or Facebook or Twitter put up clear, concise reasonings of their takedown and blocking practices?

      Conservatives want that. The EFF asked for that when they censured Google for terminating the domain registration of dailystormer.com. Where were liberals on that issue? Cheering the attempt to silence Nazis, I think.

      Liberals don't want predefined policies and takedown actions subject to review. They protested at a free speech rally where they thought Nazis would be present in Boston (the guest list kept changing. In the end there weren't any Nazis, but they protested free speech anyway to signal it was not okay for Nazis to speak). Their goal was to shut down the free speech rally, not to add more speech: to "disrupt." They accomplished it. They want censorship on Youtube and Twitter, and they are accomplishing that, too.

      Liberals want censorship for the exact same reason the Chinese government wants it: social cohesion and stability, "progress," to promote their politics and abolish wrongthink. Any position liberals take against censorship is simply an argument about who is allowed to censor.

      There is no equivalence here.

    31. Re:GOOGLE == EVIL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The idea that only governments can infringe on free speech needs to die.

    32. Re:GOOGLE == EVIL by Dutch+Gun · · Score: 2

      *facepalm* I'm not disagreeing with your premise, but it's completely irrelevant to this story. No one is arguing that the Chinese government doesn't have sovereignty within China's borders.

      You do at least know Guo Wengui is the "popular Chinese dissident" being discussed, right? This would be a non-story if China suppressed a Chinese dissident inside China - because that's what they do. It IS a story because the Chinese government seems to be somehow exerting influence on US-based tech companies to silence a Chinese ex-patriot living in New York. Read the article and you can clearly see it's a concerted and coordinated effort.

      By extension, this means that the Chinese government has enough influence over these corporations to silence *any* viewpoint, regardless where in the world it originates from.

      Yeesh, if you still don't get it, then it's on you, not me.

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    33. Re:GOOGLE == EVIL by Dutch+Gun · · Score: 1

      I'll totally admit I was wrong if it turns out that the Chinese government were the good guys all along.

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    34. Re: GOOGLE == EVIL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Mod up please.

      How can China have a person in the US silenced? Something is wrong with that picture. Money is the root of all Evil.

    35. Re:GOOGLE == EVIL by PGaries · · Score: 1

      Where the hell are the social liberals running these companies when they blindly obey orders from the Chinese government? Fucking hypocrites, all of them.

      The liberals are here, but we’ve got our hands full dealing with Twitler. Maybe the leader of American conservatism can send a tweet from Mar-a-Lago bashing Google.

    36. Re:GOOGLE == EVIL by david_thornley · · Score: 1

      Insightful? The social liberals I know dislike the Chinese government and like free speech.

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    37. Re: GOOGLE == EVIL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I've been silenced by China before. I was using a social network for sharing websites. The particular article I commented on was spuriously labeled adult content to blacklist from users who by default were shielded from content labeled as such. If you opted to view such content you also became blacklisted by default. In order to modify the labeling you would have to opt to see the content as labeled. Same kind of censorship was used on an article about a poisonous chemical that does not break down in the environment and causes cancer and severe birth defects. For all I know the same PR firm handled both of them.

  6. Suspended on a platform not available in China? by The+Cynical+Critic · · Score: 1

    Seems like China is really going out of it's way to clamp down on dissidents, even going as far as to silence people on platforms that aren't even accessible in the country. Sounds to me like it's mostly a wasted effort that only emboldens the person being persecuted and his mostly foreign and expat followers. Then again if you how the remember the Tiananmen Square protests* ended or what they've been doing to Falun Gong followers** this this probably isn't even close to China going all out in stamping something out.

    * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
    ** https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

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    1. Re:Suspended on a platform not available in China? by djinn6 · · Score: 1

      Is no one thinking it might be an accident? Channels get suspended frequently and it doesn't take much to organize a mass flagging campaign against a handful of anti-Chinese government vloggers. Out of the hundreds of videos on a channel, it's not going to be that hard to find a few of them that is not "community friendly", e.g. containing what some might consider "hate speech" or "inappropriate content", whatever that means. It takes just 3 of those videos to get your channel suspended.

    2. Re:Suspended on a platform not available in China? by Dutch+Gun · · Score: 1

      An accident? First, this occured just before the big once-every-five-years meeting of the Chinese communist party. Second, this happened to ALL his social media accounts at once: YouTube, Facebook, and Twitter. Third, Interpol, with a Chinese national at its head, recently released an international warrant for his arrest on corruption charges.

      Exactly how many "accidents" have to occur simultaneously before you can see a bigger picture developing here? The guy was a bigwig in China, so I'm not claiming he's clean either (almost certainty NOT, in fact), but this is clearly a propaganda-driven hit job, because he's exposing all their dirty laundry to the world.

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    3. Re:Suspended on a platform not available in China? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Dutch" Gun said:

      propaganda-driven hit job

      dude are you dutch?
      I didn't think so.

  7. Traitor! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    He should fucking LOVE his country or get in line with all of the NFL assholes here in the US and get his ass kicked! Nationalism over free speech!

    1. Re:Traitor! by Stephen+Battleware · · Score: 1

      Perhaps in his fighting for free speech he is the one of the more loyal?

    2. Re:Traitor! by RightwingNutjob · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Okay snowflake, let me clue you in to how freedom works. Kaepernick and co are perfectly free to give a big fat middle finger to the flag at every opportunity. And everyone else is free to give them a big fat middle finger right back and to point out that their protest is predicated on, at best, questionable facts. To put it politely.

      In China and places like it, you say something nasty about the government, you get jailed.

      See the distinction?

    3. Re: Traitor! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Questionable facts? Unarmed black people are being killed by police officers. Wtf are you talking about. Or is that fake news? Those blacks had it coming living in the ghetto like that. How dare black people stand up for themselves.

      Let me ask you this then, why was it ok for Tim tebow to kneel but not Collin? If I recall Tim kneeled as well. No one said a god damn thing about disrespecting the flag. Is it because you don't agree with why Collin was kneeling? I think that might be why all you white people are so butt hurt. Tim was white and doing it for God, so it's ok. Colin did it to raise awareness, that's wrong.

    4. Re: Traitor! by RightwingNutjob · · Score: 1

      Well, if you leave out the part about where, actually they really were armed, or were high as a kite, or had just held up a convenience store and were trying to get away, or started the fights that led to their deaths in the first place, or were waving around a (very real looking toy) gun in a public park and had had the police called on them, or any combination of the above, then sure, yeah, I could see how you think Kaepernick is on target.

      But yeah, if you ignore all that context, and ignore all the "unarmed" white people who get themselves killed by similar methods, then sure, why not?

  8. Way to go Google! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Don't settle for being merely evil!

  9. Capitalism vs. Democracy - no competition. by should_be_linear · · Score: 1, Insightful

    To think capitalism is compatible with democracy in the long run is simply foolish. Any company doing "good" eventually figures, that Chinese market is very big and very important, spying on Assange is necessary, donating millions to Republicans is unfortunate but good idea, etc. Also, power of capitalism is also so big, it can easily crush any rebellion, see Occupy case as an example. Both democracy and poor chinese guy are doomed anyway, as Google figured out.

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    1. Re:Capitalism vs. Democracy - no competition. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      It can be, even socialism can be compatible wih democracy, the problem is that the economy is too tied to everything, money has too much power and even as society rules that there a re things that can't be bought or traded, in reality people try to do this (Life is supposed to be sacred but health insurance companies keep choosing who and when their customers will receive the needed treatment or required medicine dilating the issue near to the max).

      Maybe making regions smaller and bringing the direct democracy (to reduce the damage posed by representatives that do not live the reality of the ones they do represent) should be better and to mitigate the fact that some areas have less resources all those small countries could keep some solidarity acts.

      The problem I see is consolidation of power, those that have the power to change the world live in a different reality in their own mind, in there the suffering of others is meaningless sided to the lack of a Rolex, big house, servants or the lack of a set of sexy lovers.

    2. Re:Capitalism vs. Democracy - no competition. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The only form of governement capitalism is compatible with is fascism.

    3. Re:Capitalism vs. Democracy - no competition. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually capitalism and free markets are necessary for a democracy. The fact that Google is doing the Chinese government's bidding has everything to do with crony corporatism. Unfortunately that is the type of behavior mostly seen in socialist and communist economies. The US has its share because of the $4 trillion spend by DC every year which empowers a largely unregulated bureaucracy, but not because of capitalism.

      The US has the "least worst" of all approaches tried so far. Light regulation can solve many problems, but heavy regulation just causes more. This is why you don't want a powerful central government like the Chinese have.

      Nope it's best to let the leftist approaches fail. It's painful to watch but necessary for people to understand why leftism always fails.

    4. Re: Capitalism vs. Democracy - no competition. by Reverend+Green · · Score: 1

      Capitalism != Free markets

  10. YouTube lacks experience dealing with communists! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's pretty clear that YouTube's parent company lacks experience dealing with communist countries. Perhaps Page or Brin should read a book about them.

  11. Google loves to suck government cock by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Any size government cock, any oppression of people they can get behind. They love the statist meat.

  12. Re:For those who may analyze, it's all about the $ by gtall · · Score: 2

    Except for the Chinese government, then its about power.

  13. They will never learn by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Thank god for the Streisand effect. I never would have known about this guy, and I'm sure I'm just one of many millions.

    (oh, and, fuck google)

  14. Hint: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    US does the same thing for 'controversial' discussions that place the US Government in a bad light (well, back when the people *CARED* if the USG was presenting itself as good or bad and honest or corrupt.)

    The difference is, most of our elected officials are just bought errand-boys for moneyed interests. Usually moneyed interests that have made donations to either side, so that even if their 'prime' candidate loses, they still have some influence, even if diminished, over the candidate's votes than if they threw all their money behind one candidate or the other.

    The reason American politics isn't treated like Chinese politics is because our corruption is at a different level, and while our president might be 'like a king' with some exceptions, he is not equated to an emperor with the mandate of heaven, which for many in China the president of the country is still seen as akin to, despite over a hundred years without an Emperor. For the chinese one corrupt regime simply replaced another and all regimes corrupt over time. Until and unless the government completely fucks up, or there is a natural disaster big enough to be seen as a sign from the gods that the current government's 'mandate of heaven' has been revoked, it is unlikely that a major revolution will sweep through the people there for now.

    1. Re:Hint: by Vinegar+Joe · · Score: 4, Funny

      "our president.........is not equated to an emperor with the mandate of heaven"

      Where were you between 2008 and 2016?

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      "The average reporter we talk to is 27 years old......They literally know nothing." - Ben Rhodes
    2. Re:Hint: by sysrammer · · Score: 1

      Ha! I remember all the kingly jokes about obama back then, good fun. I did notice that while it was "royal this" and "king that", I didn't see much of the "emperor penguin" type jokes, but I'm sure there were plenty as few actually know the difference between leader-types. I guess everyone was waiting for a new prez for the "emperor has no clothes" jokes to really get going.

      Simple times.

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      His ignorance covered the whole earth like a blanket, and there was hardly a hole in it anywhere. - Mark Twain
  15. Big brand thinks of making a profit in China by AHuxley · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Capitalism? Freedom of speech? Freedom after speech?
    All the best protections a nation like the USA can offer, protect and support...
    What does a US big brand do?
    Work extra hard to embrace and side with Communism and China.
    Is this what the internet and "social media" will look like? Communist parties tracking any content globally?
    US brands comply with removing free speech?
    What will be banned next?
    Tiananmen square? 4 June 1989?
    Tank Man https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
    No more terms like Flower of Freedom? Goddess of Democracy? Operation Yellowbird https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/..., River elegy?

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    Domestic spying is now "Benign Information Gathering"
    1. Re:Big brand thinks of making a profit in China by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      I don't see YOUR publicly traded, responsible to the shareholders companies' platform being financially irresponsible and rejecting profit for some moral stance to please a rabid, politically correct position that changes with the wind.

      Why do people continue to think these platforms MUST abide by an american idyll? The business of america IS business. not political correctness and morality.

    2. Re:Big brand thinks of making a profit in China by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Try say that to your executioners.

    3. Re:Big brand thinks of making a profit in China by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      thats surprising? us brands and capitalism still operates in the us after what happened to assange and snowden. your title would be more accurate as "big brand thinks of making profit anywhere in the world".

    4. Re: Big brand thinks of making a profit in China by Reverend+Green · · Score: 1

      How's that bootleather taste?

  16. Re:For those who may analyze, it's all about the $ by Templer421 · · Score: 1

    Money = Power.

  17. Time for some regulation. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This happened once before when Jordan B. Peterson lost not only his YouTube account, but also his Gmail account.

    The tech sector talks big about human rights, but they do business with some of the worst offenders in the world.

    1. Re:Time for some regulation. by Pinky's+Brain · · Score: 1

      Given that that Jordan B. Peterson was locked out completely without notification and it included his Gmail account I suspect it was a triggered insider abusing its access rights. If it was a management decision they'd just have given him an official strike like they did here.

  18. Do No Evil by wjcofkc · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    A lot can be said about the character of the person Guo Wengui if you look into it. Although to call him a bad guy, you have to read too much into it. None of us are all good. At the end of the day, he is a hero among the Chinese for valid reasons. Google\YouTube's pick-and-choose who gets banned, demonetized, or just plain buried because our algorithms aren't good enough so we have our Sjw's on the case mentality is only supported by them being a private company, and a total and complete monopoly. Google, as an extremists ultra far left company is taking advantage of their position in so many disgusting ways.YouTube's great potential has been squandered by Google, a company that somehow manages to maintain an average employee age of 29 and values enforced "diversity" above results and hard word, not to mention above lucid,objective thinking. For fucks sake, at Google, they have a weekly microaggression newsletter that they then have meetings about.

    Google is already a bunch of commies. So it's no wonder.

    Ironically a YouTube link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

    Their biggest problem right now, is how to eliminate all ideology opposed to their ultra far left SJW culture, without losing 3/4 of their subscribers.

    More: https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

    I can't even find any videos exposing YouTube through Earnest Pettie, and the full length is about as damning as can be.

    "Do No Evil" has become highly subjective at Google\YouTube\Alphabet. I predict that within a decade, Alphabet will prove to be the next big company too big to fail. When it happens, it will happen fast.

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    1. Re:Do No Evil by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You are linking to RT news! Please do not, i stopped watching! it's a Russian propaganda site siding with Russian gov.

    2. Re:Do No Evil by wjcofkc · · Score: 2

      No, I'm linking to YouTube. Now take those two neurons of yours and rub them together. Unless that was a flippant remark. It is sometimes very hard to tell around here.

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    3. Re:Do No Evil by Pinky's+Brain · · Score: 1

      So? Mainstream media is almost exclusively owned by globalists, siding with globalism when it matters (and occasionally giving an appearance of protest when the great status quo of international treaties and bought politicians means it's all written in stone anyways).

    4. Re:Do No Evil by wjcofkc · · Score: 2

      While it existed, one of the things I liked about RT America is that they told the news without adding any emotional or SJW baggage. It was objective. RT is as close to non-globalist garbage as you can get outside Alex Jones. Despite his own feelings on them. I don't have to agree or disagree with integrity outside of where I call it. I am not a robot like... you? Learn to think and disseminate for yourself, not based on what either side tells you is so.

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    5. Re: Do No Evil by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe they side with russians, but are not propaganda. besides, they publish stuff that is omitted by us-gov influenced media.

    6. Re:Do No Evil by thegarbz · · Score: 2

      "Do No Evil" has become highly subjective at Google\YouTube\Alphabet.

      Yes! Google should instead not bow to the Chinese government and get themselves firewalled off from 1billion people. That would make those people much better off as they can then move to ... errr .... state run services.

    7. Re:Do No Evil by wjcofkc · · Score: 1

      Google as we know and use it, is already blocked in China, the "sort of Google", Google China, a subsidiary, is state controlled. Further, it is only the number 3 search engine there. The other two most popular are of course, state controlled. They do not even have access to YouTube. Unless you want to try using a VPN, at your own peril.

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  19. It's obvious by Vinegar+Joe · · Score: 1

    Google feels Guo is an extreme right-wing white nationalist who is spewing racist anti-chinese hate speech. Guo had better be on the lookout for Antifa (aka the Red Guard).

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    "The average reporter we talk to is 27 years old......They literally know nothing." - Ben Rhodes
  20. Don't Be Evil by rossz · · Score: 2

    Unless it threatens the bottom line.

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    1. Re:Don't Be Evil by TimSSG · · Score: 1
      "Be Evil only when it pays." is shorter. Tim S.

      Unless it threatens the bottom line.

    2. Re:Don't Be Evil by TimSSG · · Score: 1
      Unless it pays a lot more.

      Unless it threatens the bottom line.

    3. Re:Don't Be Evil by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Evil pays the bills."

    4. Re: Don't Be Evil by Reverend+Green · · Score: 1

      "Be evil" is shorter yet.

    5. Re:Don't Be Evil by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      Bottom line and ... access to services for 1bn people?

      What do you think the outcome of disobeying the Chinese would be? (Rhetorical question, we saw the answer a few years ago). Cut off the entire Chinese market from Google services. I'm sure all those people would be far better served by being restricted to state run and sanctioned search engines and content providers all for the sake of a single dissident.

      The way I see it they took the least evil approach. At least now some content is able to slip through.

    6. Re:Don't Be Evil by kaatochacha · · Score: 1

      So at what point do you draw the line? You can make this argument a slippery slope conundrum. What if China decides Google needs to sacrifice 100 babies in a pit of fire to maintain access? is five babies OK? after all, we're talking billions here.
      If google really cared, they'd go along in the worst possible way: Ban him but give a big speech why--making it more obvious what happened, delay the ban until right after the meetings, whatever. But I don't buy that whole get into china and reform nonsense. Never worked before, won't work now.

  21. Forget Google by rsilvergun · · Score: 1

    talk to me when our government calls China out on their worker abuse. Or hell, anyone outside if the left wing press does. Both Mitt Romney and Steve Jobs were once caught talking about how happy they were to be able to work the Chines 16 hours a day for peanuts and I've never once heard them called out on that by anyone who mattered.

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  22. The SJWs admire China by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's their role model in totalitarianism.

  23. Re: For those who may analyze, it's all about the by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Beijing didn't take this peasant's bribe money, the money he swindled from other peasants. That somehow makes this idiot a dissident. Got it.

  24. What would Jesus do? by cloud.pt · · Score: 1

    You have the EU telling Facebook to do more to prevent terrorism-related propaganda.

    You have paid entities flooding the web with news outlets that are biased, bespoke or even blind zealots working with ficticious or manipulated facts.

    You have social web and big data companies getting dividends to publicize politicaly loaded interests or from selling unfair, unregulated demographic info, from every and any political wing.

    You have state and corporate interests undermining individuality, basically nullifying democracy.

    You have capitalism ethics that free and prioritize organizations (vs individuals) for societal development, and communist ethics that have to restrict individuals at scale in order to provide equality and prevent monopolies other than the state itself.

    You have a speculation industry oligarch undermining democracy with ignorance, hate and nepotism, an intelligence service top-tier undermining democracy with extremism and despotism, and a single party president in a non-democracy going the cult of personality route, all of them making use of censorship, oppression and counter-information for consolidation of power.

    Now, you telling me Google, who just happenned to recently decide would re-enter the chinese market again, doing chinese state a favor is newsworthy? Who da fck cares, it's business as usual.

    I'm not even mad because in the long run, having Google in China might prove a lot more beneficial to any social improvement there than having a youtuber sham the state leader to foreigners who don't give two shits about what's going on in southeast Asia (at least not away from a keyboard).

    So what would Jesus do here? Nobody has a clue, but everyone would have an opinion. And for any believers out there, have you ever stopped to consider the reason there wasn't a 2nd coming is because we would be too fucking judgemental on anything any so-called savior would do? I personally think he's looking down and thinking "they don't need another me, they already settled for mediocrity and the immediate satisfaction of ubiquitous attention-grabing. I am no match for the internet".

    1. Re:What would Jesus do? by boudie2 · · Score: 1

      I am quite sure that Jesus would appreciate the free exchange of ideas here on Slashdot.

    2. Re:What would Jesus do? by AHuxley · · Score: 1

      Changing money to spend on social media?
      The internet as a house of freedom not a den of communism.

      Support freedom of speech, freedom after speech.

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      Domestic spying is now "Benign Information Gathering"
    3. Re:What would Jesus do? by cloud.pt · · Score: 1

      Would he? Isn't science Chatolicism enemy no.1? Weren't his last words dedicated to putting up a good word with Big G because we didn't know what we were doing?

      Granted, we are a bigger audience than back in 33 DC. I would love to share your opinion, but a real saviour would not have asked to neglect our ignorance, he would have requested for us to be illuminated universally. Yet the wisest man around himself admits the only thing larger than our universe is our own stupidity (a synonim for ignorance).

      2 thousand years later with all this technology and we still fail to agree on core values, even when contained geographically or religiously. Free will and free speech don't seem to work that well when there is ubiquitous bullshitters.

    4. Re:What would Jesus do? by boudie2 · · Score: 1

      Well I can tell you one truth. You won't find the meaning of life here. And try not to take things too seriously. We're only here on a temporary basis.

    5. Re:What would Jesus do? by AHuxley · · Score: 1

      Re 2 thousand years later with all this technology
      To stay way from the digital versions of a charmer, the spirit of Python?
      A warning about the golden microphone and golden camera connected to evil 24/7?

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      Domestic spying is now "Benign Information Gathering"
    6. Re:What would Jesus do? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And for any believers out there, have you ever stopped to consider the reason there wasn't a 2nd coming is because we would be too fucking judgemental on anything any so-called savior would do?

      Well, we don't know, but if you want to kick around Jesus theories- I suppose it's equally likely the reason is that because one very big nation has laws against the teaching of the 2nd coming. Seriously, China singled that one out and said that if you don't teach that, they won't throw you behind bars and possibly get tortured. Go China, ride that progressive train. I suppose it's better than the prior outright prohibition against all forms of teaching christianity as a religion. And my money would be on them getting past that one as well, and thoroughly whitewashing the history of the persecution as they have with the Tiananmen Square Massacre of 1989(jesus years).

    7. Re:What would Jesus do? by cloud.pt · · Score: 1

      I have to admit I laughed hard on "jesus years".

      I never hear of them singling out any specific teaching other than the fact they like to keep their churches very "patriotic" (not only Catholicism/Christianity but all their sanctioned religions), and they will go big lengths to make people renounce the authority of external Pontifs or whatever religious leaders are called for each religion. I guess the invasion of Tibet and/or the big Dalai Lama issue might be their most obvious attempt at that.

      In any case, I bet the only second comings they would sanction would likely be from the 'ism boys (Marx, Lenin, Mao, et al).

    8. Re:What would Jesus do? by cloud.pt · · Score: 1

      Damn right!

    9. Re:What would Jesus do? by cloud.pt · · Score: 1

      Someone get some papyrus. This needs to be made to scripture, stat.

    10. Re:What would Jesus do? by david_thornley · · Score: 1

      The Catholic Church has normally been favorable to scientific inquiry. There have been exceptions. Science is far from being its #1 enemy.

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      "When you have eliminated the unacceptable, whatever is left, however improbable, must be the truthiness" - Holmes
    11. Re:What would Jesus do? by cloud.pt · · Score: 1

      Let's just forget the inquisition ever took place. Should I even mention Galileo? Creationism?

      The church has "embraced" science so as to cope with it, since, you know, killing people is no longer that easy.

    12. Re:What would Jesus do? by david_thornley · · Score: 1

      The Inquisition was not anti-science. Galileo was put under house arrest after publicly mocking the Pope Creationism was something of an exception, but the Catholic Church accepted it fairly quickly. Currently, it's more of a fundamentalist Protestant idiocy (I don't know about non-Christian religions here).

      I'm certainly not excusing a lot of what the Church has done, but it's been fairly pro-science.

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      "When you have eliminated the unacceptable, whatever is left, however improbable, must be the truthiness" - Holmes
    13. Re:What would Jesus do? by cloud.pt · · Score: 1

      Well the argument kinda got out of hand but I admit to agreeing with you to a level. Not only because I am a (non-practising) Roman Catholic myself, but especially by contrast: you can, lightheartedly, indeed say Catholicism is "pro-science" when comparing to most other religions. Do note most of my rant was tongue in cheek - I am pragmatic above all and my initial comment was never meant to be about religion, but a mild attempt at attention with the Big J word.

      And about the Inquisition, the feeling around here (Portugal I might add, a very close country to those events) is that it was an oppressive movement against different forms of thinking, including logic and creativity (what we now call STEAM fields), but also paganism (witches) and of course other religions. The curch wasn't really "against" anything specifically, it was simply too much "for" itself and that required muting everything else.

      More recently though, religions (including Catholicism) prefer to go the charismatic and reverse psychology way by embracing different ideologies, since that's the only way they can accept AND inceitivize a STEAM-educated audience. It's not much different from politics, and that is both a good and a bad thing. I believe "faith", or belief, whatever you wanna call it has a place in human society much like democracy, education, equality, ethics... and I do believe they can be compatible in theory. But much like socialism/communism, there really hasn't been a scenario it thrived in the real world.

  25. you are a moron by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They are no more propaganda than what NYT is or even CNN is.... duhh.....
    Again, just like they said ABOUT YT, they didnt deny the claims, and again just like YOU,
    you do NOT deny the claims either do you, sooo... look how PRO CORP AMERICA, CNN is...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQ1qT-XtNk0

    They take phsyops/brains washing to the next level, subtle they are not, CIA controlled for sure.

    EAT it.

  26. "Do the right thing...." by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    When Google reorganized itself as Alphabet they changed their slogan from "Don't be evil." to "Do the right thing." That's when you knew they were going evil.

  27. Don't host your copies in one or two places. by jbn-o · · Score: 1

    I think this should be looked at as a problem that modern Internet use was designed to create for non-technical users: instead of making videos available in many places (so when some are in some way disabled, even temporarily, other copies remain), people are encouraged to think that it's right and proper to host everything in one spot. This makes censorship easy and effective for the admins of that one service.

    Metaphorically speaking, don't put all your eggs in one basket. License your work to share, and host copies on multiple servers including your own, and host copies via decentralized file sharing systems such as BitTorrent. One effective way to do this is uploading to archive.org—each archive.org upload is also available via BitTorrent. As long as the material is mirrored by other users individuals can keep copies available even if archive.org disables or deletes their copy.

  28. They often change their minds. by Bender+Unit+22 · · Score: 1

    Sometimes you get community strikes on 5 year old videos:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

    1. Re:They often change their minds. by pedz · · Score: 1

      Interesting that he moved to twitch.tv I wonder if that is viable for others; what the advantages and disadvantages are. WIth matching Patreon accounts (or equivalent), seems like that might work... until twitch becomes corrupt and evil.

    2. Re: They often change their minds. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Twitch is still based in San Francisco. I would be surprised if they didn't have their own SJH censors.

  29. Quid Pro Quo by PPH · · Score: 1

    OK, China. Now you sit on Kim Jong Un.

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    Have gnu, will travel.
  30. China regulating US companies by LeftCoastThinker · · Score: 1

    It is high time that google search, Facebook, YouTube and the other mega corporations that have a de-facto monopoly get regulated by the US government as the monopoly utilities that they are. Then YouTube can say sorry China, the US government won't allow us to block that content. Within China you can block what you manage to block, outside you can sit and spin because YouTube is based in a country that values freedom and transparency. (Alt left facist America haters of the US and around the world, please just move along, your hatred of the US is out of proportion with reality and real suppression and evil around the world. The US isn't perfect, but it is still by far the best and most free country on the planet).

    Beyond that, we don't need utilities cutting off peoples access to huge chunks of the internet simply because they disagree with them. That is what courts are for. We are at the cusp of this kind of regulation, and before you argue that Google search, Facebook, or Youtube are not de-facto monopoly utilities and they don't provide an essential service, keep in mind that electricity didn't historically fall into that category either, but it has become an essential utility. The companies listed above have the vast majority of their market share, and should be regulated as such.

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    If you disagree, please post your argument. (-1, Overrated) isn't your personal censorship tool for views you don't like
    1. Re:China regulating US companies by pedz · · Score: 1

      Well... I'm not sure. The chicken shit politicians are not going to stand up for Americans or what is good for the country. They are going to (individually) figure out what is best for their own personal gains and act in that fashion. Putting your faith in congress or the president (no matter who is in office) is ludicrous.

    2. Re:China regulating US companies by LeftCoastThinker · · Score: 1

      Shit will get done when a member of congress Youtube channel gets censored by China or some other country, or when mobs show up on the national mall with torches and pitchforks. I suspect the former will happen first, but it could be the latter.

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  31. “Don't be evil” == “Don't let th by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    “A Jew is intrinsically good. A Jew is a part of G-d above. Even if at times he strays it is not because he has become evil. It is only that there is evil within him that he has to cleanse. However, to separate with a million degrees of separation, a gentile is an impure thing. The entire essence of the gentile is evil and impure. Even if he occasionally does good deeds he does not thereby become good.” - Rebbe Menachem Mendel Schneerson

    Now what is the ethno-religious background of both Larry Page and Sergey Brin? FYI, a "gentile" is anyone who is not a Jew.

  32. Youtube management = COWARDS! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Youtube management make me sick! Every one of them! ANYTHING for a buck, eh? If there is such a thing as karma, you will all come back as Chinese serfs slaving for a warlord.

  33. Googles Guo Wengui, watches videos by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    LOL China, keep sensoring the internet like it's 1999.

  34. Google loves censorship by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Google is a huge fan of censorship (paging James Damore), so it makes sense that they would help China crush dissent.

  35. YouTube is blocked in China by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yes, YouTube is blocked in China by the Great Firewall. So why is China complaining? Because the Elite and every other curious person is using a VPN to get past the Great Firewall--which are supposedly soon to be illegal in China. This is yet another gross example of YouTube censorship and why another platform needs to be replace it and be decentralized so a monopoly like Google can't control it.

  36. No such thing as "MBA mentality" by perpenso · · Score: 1

    Didn't take long from Do No Evil to Anything for a Buck. I blame the MBA mentality that is in charge now.

    There is no such thing as an "MBA mentality". A person who would do anything for a buck was like that before an MBA program, a person who would do good by you will still be like that after an MBA program.

    An MBA program is nothing more than a series of survey courses, one to three classes in various topics. Statistics, organizational behavior, economics, accounting, operations, consumer behavior, marketing, strategy, product development, project management, business law, negotiations, information technology, etc. This does not turn an engineer into an accountant, no more than it turns an accountant into an IT person. What it does is let an engineer see things from the perspective of an accountant, a marketing person, a strategy person, etc. So that the engineer can better represent the engineering perspective to these other groups, so that the engineer can better understand the perspective of these other groups. In short, MBAs allow better communication between different fields of expertise. There is no special "mentality" installed.

    1. Re: No such thing as "MBA mentality" by Reverend+Green · · Score: 1

      Then why do pretty much all MBAs act like they would stab their own granny in the back for $5?

    2. Re: No such thing as "MBA mentality" by itsenrique · · Score: 1

      The same reason lots of cops are pricks, and politicians are sleazy. The wrong types of people are often attracted to positions of power. An MBA is a gateway to a position of power in the private sector. Therefore, a lot of unsavory people seek them out.

    3. Re: No such thing as "MBA mentality" by geminidomino · · Score: 1

      It's like lawyers. Its the few rotten million that spoil it for the other eleven.

  37. Build your own pop up channel by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Let whoever want to censor you from streaming whatever play whackamole build your own service http://weheart.digital/build-simple-live-streaming-solution/ this can be moved from server to server. IPv6 would make life even easier and the game impossible to play for those who want to silence anyone. Furthermore distribute your content through bittorrent and similar protocols and save yourself from bandwidth issues is there will be copies out there in case they crack down on you

  38. YouTube not the first to close his account by Der+PC · · Score: 1

    First it was Facebook, then it was Twitter and finally YouTube.

    Guess the guy's not going to have much of an on-line life...

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  39. Regulate by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Regulate them.

    Domain registrars and monopsonistic speech platforms like Twitter, Facebook, and Youtube should be required to publish their policy, the policy should be approved by the government only if it's not too subjective, and takedown should be subject to review, either external to the company, or by an internal adversarial board structured to be independent of the rest of the company and politically neutral. These entities have more power over speech than the government did at the time the first amendment passed, and they've proven repeatedly they intend to use this power politically, and they are infiltrated by SJWs so bent on executing another of Mao's Cultural Revolutions that they are incapable of even mediocre discretion much less the stewardship required of someone who holds this power. Our democracy can't afford this, and it doesn't need to tolerate it. We can simply regulate them.

    We have the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act that forbids US companies from bribing foreign officials, even if that's standard operating procedure in the markets where they want to operate. The US should have a similar Act that forbids US companies from appeasing foreign orders to censor political speech beyond their borders.

  40. Corporations in a Nutshell by Ulfilas2000 · · Score: 1

    People pretend like corporations like Google, Apple, Facebook are more (i.e. moral entities) than what they are -simply a business arrangement between a group of people to maximize the profit on their investment. The problem here is not that Google and Facebook cave in to China, the problem is people assuming that Google and Facebook have any sort of moral underpinning.

    1. Re:Corporations in a Nutshell by david_thornley · · Score: 1

      It's possible to make moral underpinnings profitable under some circumstances.

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  41. Perhaps Guo needs a change of venue by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Guo,

    Publish on LBRY.IO. It's blockchain. It's monetized using crypto-currency. And it's decentralized. Google can't de-monetize or take-down and neither can anyone else. Facebook, Twitter, and anything Google are pretty much a waste of space these days.